Harrys betrayal.....

[Rustic bauble]

It will just double my votes for Aaron....:dance::dance::dance:

[Tourmaline]

And mine :elephant::elephant::elephant:

[Kazanne]

:xyxwave::xyxwave::dance::dance:And mine triple votes,

[karezza]

Harry is a liar & backstabber. I am loving Aaron more & more.

[Kazanne]

Aaron is gutted that Harry has gone,he'll be even more gutted to find out he has thrown him under a bus.but most fans are loyal and will be liking Aaron even more.

[Pyramid*]

Ach, take the good from it. Harry was there to help the Lord during times of duress, we need to show restraint here, let's be the bigger people.

Harry has now expended his use.

Harry is out. Lord Aaron is still in the running to win. ;):dance:

[HBB1508]

I like Harry but I think he let himself down and came across a bit bitter that he was voted out imo.

[fruit_cake]

Harry's entitled to his opinions

[Pyramid*]

I like Harry but I think he let himself down and came across a bit bitter that he was voted out imo.

I think so too. I get the feeling that his nose is out of joint just a little - he thought because he was 'close to Aaron' in the house, and his close ally, that that would afford him protection - esp when he was up along with Jay and Faye.

Don't think there's much more to it. It is a game remember.

Harry's entitled to his opinions

Who said he wasn't? People are commenting on his sudden change of opinions, not on him not being entitled to them.

[thesheriff443]

harry gave his true opinion on aaron and after liveing with him he is more than entilted to give it! and being with him 24-7 would get to see aarons good and bad sides,more than us the viewers get to see!,

[BBFanDan]

IMO Harry wouldn't of got top votes last week if he wasn't "friends" with Aaron.

He played the "let's hang around with the popular guy to get more votes" game well.

[Kazanne]

Harry's entitled to his opinions

Of course he is,but it's a shame those opinions differ quite a lot about the SAME thing!!!

[Kazanne]

harry gave his true opinion on aaron and after liveing with him he is more than entilted to give it! and being with him 24-7 would get to see aarons good and bad sides,more than us the viewers get to see!,

But his so called 'true' opinion was different to what he has said!

[fruit_cake]

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

[thesheriff443]

what im thinking is if harry and mark had not been in there! who would aaron been talking to apart from big brother!

[lucyann]

I was sorry to see Harry go but Harry contradicted himself too much for anything he said to be taken seriously.

[showtime77]

Harry is dead to me now!

[Angus]

Absolutely nothing wrong with Harry giving his "true" opinion, but if it was, then the fact he didn't do so IN THE HOUSE to Aaron's face (his alleged best friend as he stated in his parting VT), just makes him look ridiculously two-faced, bitter, bitchy and hypocritical. This perception of him is so much at odds with the way he was in the house, that it is not surprising that previous Harry supporters are disappointed in him.

At least the likes of Anton and Jemma who slag Aaron off on the outside, did so to his face in the house. THAT is the difference. If Harry can be that two-faced, pretending to be Aaron's friend in the house and then slagging him off on the outside, I would be inclined to disbelieve a single word that comes out of his mouth, especially as he is coming across as an extremely bitter loser.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Absolutely nothing wrong with Harry giving his "true" opinion, but if it was, then the fact he didn't do so IN THE HOUSE to Aaron's face (his alleged best friend as he stated in his parting VT), just makes him look ridiculously two-faced, bitter, bitchy and hypocritical. This perception of him is so much at odds with the way he was in the house, that it is not surprising that previous Harry supporters are disappointed in him.

At least the likes of Anton and Jemma who slag Aaron off on the outside, did so to his face in the house. THAT is the difference. If Harry can be that two-faced, pretending to be Aaron's friend in the house and then slagging him off on the outside, I would be inclined to disbelieve a single word that comes out of his mouth, especially as he is coming across as an extremely bitter loser.

His parting words to Aaron were, love you man :nono:

[Pyramid*]

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

not so that 'we' realised about them.... if he had those opinions in the house - that's certainly not what he put over to the viewer - NOR to the housemates; Faye in particular. Otherwise Harry would have told Faye what his opinon all along was - when she asked his opinion on whether he thought Aaron was toying with her, if Aaron was true to her etc.


Harry played a clever game in being loyal to the most popular housemate as viewed by the public..... it worked well, credit to Harry for doing it, because otherwise: he would have been kicked out in the first few weeks.

He didn't play it well enough though: otherwise he'd still be in the house though eh!

The bit everyone forgets is: it is a game! If they want to be perceived as two faced when they come out - so be it - all it will do though, is undo any good - Harry stayed in the house as long because of Aaron fans. Not because Harry had his own fanbase.

No one will give two hoots about Harry now. He has expended his use.

:D

[Angus]

His parting words to Aaron were, love you man :nono:

Point proved. If I were Harry's girlfriend I would take anything he said to me with a huge pinch of salt:rolleyes:

[Kazanne]

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

But didn't Anton say Harry had stabbed HIM in the back also,I have no problems with Harry saying Aaron is playing a game,but imo,no need to bring Faye into it as imo I think Aaron likes her a lot and harry said himself that he thought they were genuine,so nah,too many inconsistances for me to take notice of.

[Pyramid*]

Point proved. If I were Harry's girlfriend I would take anything he said to me with a huge pinch of salt:rolleyes:

I would too. He's not quite being truthful (and he said he'd been in the house longer than he had been with his girlfriend.....;)

If anyone can find the vid that (I think) Kazanne put up - when Harry is discussing some hms.... he touches his nose (3 times IIRC) - when discussing Aaron and Faye, when he said about looking forward to coming out to see his girlfriend, and another time (I think about Alex).

If Kaz or whoever can put that clip up again -you'll see what I mean.

[thesheriff443]

no housemate will put there head on the chopping bloke in the house,there is a lot of lip biteing going on!

[Angus]

no housemate will put there head on the chopping bloke in the house,there is a lot of lip biteing going on!


It's one thing to try and get along with those you have to live with in the house, but quite another to pretend to be a close friend, listen to their confidences, share personal stuff with them etc. To then leave the house and slag off a supposed good friend is just cowardly and despicable.

[fruit_cake]

No one will give two hoots about Harry now. He has expended his use.

:D

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

[Suze]

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

Yes, it is my opinion also. Would you rather some of us Aaron fans lied and said it isn't then? If Harry can turn on Aaron so darn quick, then I have no more time for Harry. Plus Harry is out the BB game, so why would I waste my energy worrying about some of those who have been evicted and what bitterness they have to spew? It's BB and it's the housemates still in there I am interested in to try and entertain me still, not bitter ex housemates. If you think that's awful, then so be it.

[Pyramid*]

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

Yes, it is my opinion also. Would you rather some of us Aaron fans lied and said it isn't then? If Harry can turn on Aaron so darn quick, then I have no more time for Harry. Plus Harry is out the BB game, so why would I waste my energy worrying about some of those who have been evicted and what bitterness they have to spew? It's BB and it's the housemates still in there I am interested in to try and entertain me still, not bitter ex housemates. If you think that's awful, then so be it.


Thanks Suze!

Looks like you were wrong Fruitcake :tongue:

The truth hurts ..... differnence being, some of us aren't so emotionally connected to the housemates: seeing as it's nothing more than a gameshow -with people playing games.

Harry is out of the game - Aaron isn't - thus Let The Games Continue..... :D

[fruit_cake]

Thanks Suze!

Looks like you were wrong Fruitcake :tongue:

The truth hurts ..... differnence being, some of us aren't so emotionally connected to the housemates: seeing as it's nothing more than a gameshow -with people playing games.

Harry is out of the game - Aaron isn't - thus Let The Games Continue..... :D

with respect, two of you don't speak for his 10's of thousands of fans. I'm not ashamed of having an emotional connection to the housemates, people are people whether they are on a television screen or not in my view.

[exoticrosebud]

i must have blinked and missed this bit...i dont know what he said! ohh i remember now..i fell asleep before the evictions ! beginning to wish i hadnt now...feel soooooo out of the h
thread ! lol

[Pyramid*]

with respect, two of you don't speak for his 10's of thousands of fans. I'm not ashamed of having an emotional connection to the housemates, people are people whether they are on a television screen or not in my view.

With respect, YOU don't speak for every Harry fan either - or any other hms/ex hms fans.

10's of thousands of fans?!!! :joker: Don't you think you're really stretching it there !! :laugh3:

[exoticrosebud]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WHAT DID HE BLOODY SAY !!!!!!! lol

[vesavius]

It will just double my votes for Aaron....:dance::dance::dance:

Harry sees the truth of Aaron and speaks without malice or dislike.

It's a shame though that hearing the truth just makes some retreat further into denial to support entrenched stances.

[Bojangles]

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

[Pyramid*]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WHAT DID HE BLOODY SAY !!!!!!! lol

LOL. !!

Here.... have a look. Click on the word 'Here' , as well as checking out Vicky's post on another thread.

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4701809&postcount=1


First up we have the most recent revelation which is HERE (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/218199/Big-Brother-2011-Aaron-s-a-fake-says-Harry/)
Big bitchfest about how Aaron is indeed using Faye.

However only a few days ago Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or is he lying now for a paid interview?

Quote:


* Harry to Aaron: "I don't want you to have been portrayed in a way that isn't true" regarding what was said by the families when nominating Aaron.
-- 28:12 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32 (http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brother/episodes/episode-53-32)

* Harry to Faye: "I know how much you like Aaron..." "I think he feels like he's in an awkward situation as well, because he said he really, really likes you outside, but everyone is going to slag him off and say he's been leading you on or whatever. But I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on. But I think you've got to trust your own instinct. ...I would just not listen to your mom and sister. At the end of the day, you've got 18 days left...I wouldn't read too much into the whole -- I know what they said you've got to take on board, but at the same time, just have fun doing whatever you want to do. If you want to hang out with Aaron and if you want to get off with Aaron, then do whatever you want to." Faye says she doesn't know if she'll be able to do that, because it'll be too weird. Harry responds, "Only if you let it be weird. I feel sorry for him, though, in the fact of five nominations of all people saying 'I don't like how you're treating Faye.' It's kind of, like, ouch."
-- 31:14 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32 (http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brother/episodes/episode-53-32)

* Harry to Faye in his goodbye message: "Don't worry about what people think on the outside world until you get on the outside world. Just have fun for now."
-- 7:07 mark: http://www.youtube.com/user/monkeyis.../5/cC-6ZO7kR6c (http://www.youtube.com/user/monkeyisstillalive#p/u/5/cC-6ZO7kR6c)

Seems his opinion did a total U-turn within about an hour of leaving the house. I wonder why http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/smilies/suspect.gif

[Jordan.]

Hardly betrayal he is just bringing to light what the none deluded Aaron fans already knew.

[fruit_cake]

With respect, YOU don't speak for every Harry fan either - or any other hms/ex hms fans.

10's of thousands of fans?!!! :joker: Don't you think you're really stretching it there !! :laugh3:

I'm not even a Harry fan what are you talking about? I haven't personally counted them but Aaron probably does have 10's of thousands of fans.

[exoticrosebud]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh THE CAD !!!!!!

[Kazanne]

harry gave his true opinion on aaron and after liveing with him he is more than entilted to give it! and being with him 24-7 would get to see aarons good and bad sides,more than us the viewers get to see!,

Well IF that is your argument,I will believe Aarons brother who has lived with him a lot longer and says Aaron genuinely likes Faye!!

[Kazanne]

Hardly betrayal he is just bringing to light what the none deluded Aaron fans already knew.

The only deluded people are the ones that cannot see the contradiction in harrys statements in Vickys posts!!

[Angus]

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

But the point is you really don't get what you see. Harry is not the supportive, caring friend he portrayed in the house, so how can anyone take anything he says seriously? Of course it's a game show, and some choose to play the game clean and some choose to play it dirty. I know which camp Harry belongs in.

[MarcusLloydAK]

tbh, the only housemates that have stayed the same (even from their VT's) is clearly Louise and Jay! I mean the housemates that are currently there. Aaron is a gameplayer and a liar, and you can't deny that. His dancing and singing is so fake, as he knows he'll get more votes! Harry and Anton sussed him out. Aaron would have not been seen dead doing that in the first few weeks, and I'll never forget when he said Rebeckah was one of his favourite HM's to her face, and then walked into the bathroom and said he hated her. But don't get me wrong, I do like Aaron but i just know he's fake. :P

[Kazanne]

tbh, the only housemates that have stayed the same (even from their VT's) is clearly Louise and Jay! I mean the housemates that are currently there. Aaron is a gameplayer and a liar, and you can't deny that. His dancing and singing is so fake, as he knows he'll get more votes! Harry and Anton sussed him out. Aaron would have not been seen dead doing that in the first few weeks, and I'll never forget when he said Rebeckah was one of his favourite HM's to her face, and then walked into the bathroom and said he hated her. But don't get me wrong, I do like Aaron but i just know he's fake. :P

Sorry but LOUISE definately has NOT been true to her VT

[MarcusLloydAK]

I thought she was! :P hmm, well on the one where she's in the black room, i can't remember the official one before she went in.

[Pyramid*]

with respect, two of you don't speak for his 10's of thousands of fans. I'm not ashamed of having an emotional connection to the housemates, people are people whether they are on a television screen or not in my view.

With respect, YOU don't speak for every Harry fan either - or any other hms/ex hms fans.

10's of thousands of fans?!!! :joker: Don't you think you're really stretching it there !! :laugh3:

I'm not even a Harry fan what are you talking about? I haven't personally counted them but Aaron probably does have 10's of thousands of fans.

Please avoid twisting my posts to suit your needs. :nono:

I did not say you were a Harry fan. I said you should not speak for them - or fans of any other hm/ex hms.:tongue:

Given that the thread is ABOUT HARRY... you should make it clear if you are going veer off topic.

My comment still remains true. You don't speak for fans of any housemate - Harry, Aaron or a.n.other.

[fruit_cake]

you lost me there I'm afraid.

[Pyramid*]

you lost me there I'm afraid.

Standard reply from you I see when you've made a 'wee hash' of it.

Harry's entitled to say /do what he likes.

It will only serve to push Aaron fans into overdrive to get Aaron to at least the top three.

That should push Harry's nose out of joint, just a little bit more!

Tally ho! :D

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

What did Harry say about Aaron, I never watched BBOTS lastnight.

[thesheriff443]

lets just say who ever wins,its not going to change our lifes in any way,and all too soon there will be more housemates for us to have opinions on,

[Kazanne]

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

He lied on TV when he was in the house!:shocked:

[Pyramid*]

lets just say who ever wins,its not going to change our lifes in any way,and all too soon there will be more housemates for us to have opinions on,

Quoted for truth.

Indeed: it's adding to the fun in the last 2 weeks of the show, and there is not a thing wrong with that.

[Kazanne]

I thought she was! :P hmm, well on the one where she's in the black room, i can't remember the official one before she went in.

She said she would never have sex in the house and she was just a normal girl!! well sorry she isn't normal to think that wiping your ass on someones pillowcase romantic:nono:

[joeysteele]

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

Harry lost total closeness with Aaron because Aaron got close to Faye, no matter what else, Harry told Faye that Aaron really liked her, however even in the house when he was talking to Aaron as to his relationship with Faye and when Aaron said he was falling for her, Harry said ''well that's what worries me''.

I am disappointed with Harry's comments since coming out but even more so at his Louise comments, in his parting message he spoke directly to her saying he had never said or thought she was in any way thick, I don't care for Louise but she was really pleased to hear that.

Contrast that though with his comments on bbbots last night where he was saying and agreeing she was totally thick. I have no time for that nonsense I'm afraid no matter how much I liked Harry.

[Novo]

It will triple my votes

[Ammi]

I have no interest in what the H.M's say when they come out of the house..they had their chance when they were in there..I'm sure Harry's just trying to earn a few pennies to buy his golden kettle..

[Pyramid*]

I have no interest in what the H.M's say when they come out of the house..they had their chance when they were in there..I'm sure Harry's just trying to earn a few pennies to buy his golden kettle..

A lot of truth in this one Ammi. He's out of the running to be winner, and like every other ex-hmate now, he's doing what he can to keep himself connected to the show - by whatever means.

He's been a game player all along himself so he cannot fault or criticise anyone else for doing it..... he's a bit miffed that he was outsmarted - that's all it is.

Look what all this type of thing did for Rebeckah - her turning hot and cold with Aden - look how that completely backfired on her. Harry needs to be careful otherwise, game playing or not: he's going to lose a lot of respect if he over eggs the pudding.

Give Anton his dues: even HE came round to Aaron and said all credit to him (Aaron).

But in essence: Harry's out of the game, there's is still lots to play for and he's now excluded from that. You can understand why the chap feels miffed, everso slightly. :D

[Ammi]

A lot of truth in this one Ammi. He's out of the running to be winner, and like every other ex-hmate now, he's doing what he can to keep himself connected to the show - by whatever means.

He's been a game player all along himself so he cannot fault or criticise anyone else for doing it..... he's a bit miffed that he was outsmarted - that's all it is.

Look what all this type of thing did for Rebeckah - her turning hot and cold with Aden - look how that completely backfired on her. Harry needs to be careful otherwise, game playing or not: he's going to lose a lot of respect if he over eggs the pudding.

Give Anton his dues: even HE came round to Aaron and said all credit to him (Aaron).

But in essence: Harry's out of the game, there's is still lots to play for and he's now excluded from that. You can understand why the chap feels miffed, everso slightly. :D

Yes Pyr, I can..but sour grapes can be so unattractive when they're smeared all over your mush.....

[karezza]

Harry is well on the way to becoming BB12's most hated housemate.

[Pyramid*]

Yes Pyr, I can..but sour grapes can be so unattractive when they're smeared all over your mush.....

The are indeed - but it's self inflicted so if he wants to continue..... ;)

[Pyramid*]

Harry is well on the way to becoming BB12's most hated housemate.


Again, if he undoes all the good he gained from weeks in the house - it's self inflicted and of his own making.

I somehow think that he won't give a fig either way!

[Kazanne]

Standard reply from you I see when you've made a 'wee hash' of it.

Harry's entitled to say /do what he likes.

It will only serve to push Aaron fans into overdrive to get Aaron to at least the top three.

That should push Harry's nose out of joint, just a little bit more!

Tally ho! :D

Is this the vid you wanted Pyramid?
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[Pyramid*]

Is this the vid you wanted Pyramid?
d_Cup8uMHr0

that's the very one!

Watch the 3 times he touches his nose..... ;)

[Vicky.]

His parting words to Aaron were, love you man :nono:

Well yeah this is odd too. Surely if it was all a game(him being nice to get onside) then once he was evicted there was no reason to keep up the pretense? Same with his goodbye message.

[Bollo]

Whatever he may have said ( and to be honest i really don't think anything he said was that bad) I still think he was a really good housemate.Now he has gone I will support Aaron and Harry's comments will not affect that for me.

[Rustic bauble]

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

She did but I bet your bottom dollar he wont invite her out with his mates when she is out!!!:joker:

[fruit_cake]

She did but I bet your bottom dollar he wont invite her out with his mates when she is out!!!:joker:

No probably not let's face it

[Rustic bauble]

Harry sees the truth of Aaron and speaks without malice or dislike.

It's a shame though that hearing the truth just makes some retreat further into denial to support entrenched stances.

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

[Rustic bauble]

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

But you dont...thats just the point. When you say he isnt going to lie on TV...well he has. He told Faye that Aaron was genuine about his feelings for her...then said the opposite when he came out :conf::conf::conf:

[Pyramid*]

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

dont you see the difficulty though when a liar is exposed?

You don't know quite what story they spin is true. The original version, or the newer, more updated version. ;)

Such is the nature of a liar: you don't know what is the truth and what is not, especially in a scenario like BB, when the viewers are fed only the smallest crumbs.

It puts into question anything that that person then says.

[Ellen]

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

Harry was hardly likely to tell Faye that he thought Aaron was playing her was he?
She would have been straight over to Aaron telling him what Harry said which would have caused problems for Aaron & Harry so i can see why Harry said what he said.

[Bill Carson]

It seems harry had aarons back in the house and played along with the fact that he knew he was using faye,but is outside now and can just be himself and tell the truth,nothing wrong with that,almost all the other H/M's have had the same opinion of aaron.

It was probably not something that he could respect that's all,and maybe he just wants to disassociate himself from it now he is on the outside.

[Rustic bauble]

Harry was hardly likely to tell Faye that he thought Aaron was playing her was he?
She would have been straight over to Aaron telling him what Harry said which would have caused problems for Aaron & Harry so i can see why Harry said what he said.

So why didnt he just stick with the line of....wait til you get out and take it from there...he said it and he didnt need or have to but he did...then says the opposite when he gets out.

[Pyramid*]

It seems harry had aarons back in the house and played along with the fact that he knew he was using faye,but is outside now and can just be himself and tell the truth,nothing wrong with that,almost all the other H/M's have had the same opinion of aaron.

It was probably not something that he could respect that's all,and maybe he just wants to disassociate himself from it now he is on the outside.

Which there is not one thing wrong with - at all.

In fact, didn't Aaron say much the same thing - that these will be people he will never hope to ever have to meet or spend time with again after the show.

To me, that the sign of a person who entered the house for the experience - rather than it being a springboard to zlister land.

[vesavius]

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

He is full of contradictions because... HE PLAYED THE GAME.

That means he said different things as required to different people. I thought we were all meant to love game players?? Or just game players called Aaron? :joker:

If your gonna hate on Harry for playing the game,you better be ready to condemn Aaron for exactly the same.

Because not to would be a contradiction.

[Rustic bauble]

He is full of contradictions because... HE PLAYED THE GAME.

That means he said different things as required to different people. I thought we were all meant to love game players?? Or just game players called Aaron? :joker:

If your gonna hate on Harry for playing the game,you better be ready to condemn Aaron for exactly the same.

Because not to would be a contradiction.

I dont hate Harry....I was disappointed cos I thought he had more to him. Neither am I disappointed that he was playing a game because I think they all are...some better than others. I liked Harry...he was my second fave but I dont like the way he has 'turned' on Aaron. You know I like Aaron and he has played the game well but when he says he likes people I believe he means it. He said it to Rebekah then off camera said he couldnt stand her...it was funny and thats how he played the game...but at least we knew he didnt really like her. If Aaron comes out of the house and dismisses Faye and stabs her in the back and does the same to Harry then I will hold my hands up and say I have been completely fooled....but I TRULY believe it wont happen cos I think he is a really decent guy.

[vesavius]

I dont hate Harry....I was disappointed cos I thought he had more to him.

Rustic, he is exactly what he was in that house, he jut has said some negative stuff about Aaron. That's the only difference between then and now.

If he pretended to like Aaron more in that house, well... they all have done the same, including Aaron. To dislike Harry for it is a double standard.

Aaron has obviously faked relationships, massively imo, and to condemn others for doing the same dosen't seem right to me.

but I dont like the way he has 'turned' on Aaron. You know I like Aaron and he has played the game well but when he says he likes people I believe he means it....but I TRULY believe it wont happen cos I think he is a really decent guy.

He hasn't 'turned' on Aaron...

He is just giving his opinions of the game freely now he has left it.

For him that obviously includes Aaron's fakeness and tactics at the expense of others. He can observe that part of Aaron's game and still like the guy... it is the same as one footballer talking about the game of another.

The highligted part of your quote is to underline the trick that Aaron is playing and getting away with.

[Rustic bauble]

Rustic, he is exactly what he was in that house, he jut has said some negative stuff about Aaron. That's the only difference between then and now.

If he pretended to like Aaron more in that house, well... they all have done the same, including Aaron. To dislike Harry for it is a double standard.

Aaron has obviously faked relationships, massively imo, and to condemn others for doing the same dosen't seem right to me.



He hasn't 'turned' on Aaron...

He is just giving his opinions of the game freely now he has left it.

For him that obviously includes Aaron's fakeness and tactics at the expense of others. He can observe that part of Aaron's game and still like the guy... it is the same as one footballer talking about the game of another.

The highligted part of your quote is to underline the trick that Aaron is playing and getting away with.

You say Aaron has OBVIOUSLY faked relationships...what proof do you have? We wont know that until he is out.
Aaron had little or no time for Jay at the beginning and I know he still finds him vulgar...but I think Aaron has grown to like Jay...hence
the little hug which I found really endearing. I believe they have a mutual respect for each others honesty.

So until Aaron leaves the house we are going to have to agree to disagree.. you have seen what I have seen and he has not done anything to show him as fake...you have listened to disgruntled gameplayers who have been evicted.

Lets wait and see...

[Angus]

Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or now for a paid interview? Clips below:

* Harry to Aaron: "I don't want you to have been portrayed in a way that isn't true" regarding what was said by the families when nominating Aaron.
-- 28:12 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye: "I know how much you like Aaron..." "I think he feels like he's in an awkward situation as well, because he said he really, really likes you outside, but everyone is going to slag him off and say he's been leading you on or whatever. But I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on. But I think you've got to trust your own instinct. ...I would just not listen to your mom and sister. At the end of the day, you've got 18 days left...I wouldn't read too much into the whole -- I know what they said you've got to take on board, but at the same time, just have fun doing whatever you want to do. If you want to hang out with Aaron and if you want to get off with Aaron, then do whatever you want to." Faye says she doesn't know if she'll be able to do that, because it'll be too weird. Harry responds, "Only if you let it be weird. I feel sorry for him, though, in the fact of five nominations of all people saying 'I don't like how you're treating Faye.' It's kind of, like, ouch."
-- 31:14 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye in his goodbye message: "Don't worry about what people think on the outside world until you get on the outside world. Just have fun for now."
-- 18:48 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30

* Harry to Aaron: "I love you, mate. See you soon. Look after yourself. Look out for Faye. I'm glad you two got another week." And then Harry to Faye: "Faye, I love you. Look after yourself. Look after Aaron."
-- 3:53 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30



:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Pyramid*]

Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or now for a paid interview? Clips below:

* Harry to Aaron: "I don't want you to have been portrayed in a way that isn't true" regarding what was said by the families when nominating Aaron.
-- 28:12 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye: "I know how much you like Aaron..." "I think he feels like he's in an awkward situation as well, because he said he really, really likes you outside, but everyone is going to slag him off and say he's been leading you on or whatever. But I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on. But I think you've got to trust your own instinct. ...I would just not listen to your mom and sister. At the end of the day, you've got 18 days left...I wouldn't read too much into the whole -- I know what they said you've got to take on board, but at the same time, just have fun doing whatever you want to do. If you want to hang out with Aaron and if you want to get off with Aaron, then do whatever you want to." Faye says she doesn't know if she'll be able to do that, because it'll be too weird. Harry responds, "Only if you let it be weird. I feel sorry for him, though, in the fact of five nominations of all people saying 'I don't like how you're treating Faye.' It's kind of, like, ouch."
-- 31:14 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye in his goodbye message: "Don't worry about what people think on the outside world until you get on the outside world. Just have fun for now."
-- 18:48 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30

* Harry to Aaron: "I love you, mate. See you soon. Look after yourself. Look out for Faye. I'm glad you two got another week." And then Harry to Faye: "Faye, I love you. Look after yourself. Look after Aaron."
-- 3:53 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30



:rolleyes::rolleyes:

rolly eyes indeed. !!

[BJ]

But didn't Anton say Harry had stabbed HIM in the back also,I have no problems with Harry saying Aaron is playing a game,but imo,no need to bring Faye into it as imo I think Aaron likes her a lot and harry said himself that he thought they were genuine,so nah,too many inconsistances for me to take notice of.

Agree Kazanne.

I think the well known quote " he runs with the fox and hunts with the hounds" probably sums Harry up

[pimpslapper]

I dont hate Harry....I was disappointed cos I thought he had more to him. Neither am I disappointed that he was playing a game because I think they all are...some better than others. I liked Harry...he was my second fave but I dont like the way he has 'turned' on Aaron. You know I like Aaron and he has played the game well but when he says he likes people I believe he means it. He said it to Rebekah then off camera said he couldnt stand her...it was funny and thats how he played the game...but at least we knew he didnt really like her. If Aaron comes out of the house and dismisses Faye and stabs her in the back and does the same to Harry then I will hold my hands up and say I have been completely fooled....but I TRULY believe it wont happen cos I think he is a really decent guy.

+1

[tomflint]

I think he has if im being honest with you.

[Jordan.]

No

[Roy Mars III]

Not really.

[Vicky.]

FFS I merged this because it told me the second thread was just a thread, not a poll...and now a general discussion thread has a poll attached to it, as if the OP of the original thread made the poll...

FML.

[pimpslapper]

Harry has stabbed Aaron, Anton, Jay and Louise all in the back. He probably faked friendship with Alex too. Just a piece of work posh boy really. Glad that fakeass is out the house.

[LessThanMe]

Im not really surprised by what he's been saying. I never got the feeling that him and Aaron were good mates just more of an alliance. I also thought Harry was playing the biggest game in there and this is just him being a bad loser tbh.