So she's really mid 20s - so why lie?

[Angus]

What is wrong with the Palmer family - all lying like mad about their true ages, and Aaron getting unjustified grief about the alleged "huge" age difference as if he's taken advantage of some poor inexperienced child.

Faye Palmer of Tamworth is listed on the electoral register in 2002 when you have to be at least 16 to be included on it so you she would have turned 17 in that year. That makes her in her mid 20s now:suspect: That must make Jemma in her mid 30s and she looks every day of it.

Seems lying comes naturally to the Palmer girls.

[Visage]

I've never understood why they have done this, although I read somewhere it was to do with their wrestling career.

They certainly appear older than what they've both declared as their age, but then I've never been great with ages.

[psychtracker]

Not saying you're wrong, but i'm surprised that ex-classmates or any random who's known her, hasn't outed her..if she's lying by 6-7 years. It's all a bit weird, keep sniffing around...and i hope her real age get's verified. At the rate it's goin, she'll be mid 30s by next week, twice divorced, and had the 3 kids already! ;)

[soundslike]

Oh dear! Aaron thinks he is messing with a teenage babe when in reality he is messing with a woman lol!!!

[psychtracker]

Someone's reputably posted the birth extracts on DS :

From the Official Birth Registrations:

Name: PALMER, Jemma Samantha T
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1983
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun .... (10th April?)
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1989
Month of Registration: October
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks of the event.

Jemma is 28, Faye is 22.

[alex_front2]

On BBOTs last night during the 'eye drawing' section they had HM ages but had Fayes as 19, 20, 21 (crossed out).

[Angus]

Someone's reputably posted the birth extracts on DS :

From the Official Birth Registrations:

Name: PALMER, Jemma Samantha T
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1983
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun .... (10th April?)
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1989
Month of Registration: October
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks of the event.

Jemma is 28, Faye is 22.


This is at odds with the electoral register which shows her included as at 2002. People under 16 years of age are NOT included on the electoral register.

Irrespective of all that she is far from being the innocent little teenie everyone seems to think she is.

[FaLaLaLand]

It's because when you reach a certain age in the wrestling biz, the least likely you are to get booked for appearances (as a woman)... hence why they're trying to stay as close to or below 25 as possible!

Apparently Jem got signed by the WWE last year but soon got released and didn't even make it to the training/development territory (where you go before you go to the main roster, Florida Championship Wrestling), maybe her age was something to do with it?

[Gravedigger]

It's because when you reach a certain age in the wrestling biz, the least likely you are to get booked for appearances (as a woman)... hence why they're trying to stay as close to or below 25 as possible!

Apparently Jem got signed by the WWE last year but soon got released and didn't even make it to the training/development territory (where you go before you go to the main roster, Florida Championship Wrestling), maybe her age was something to do with it?

Or maybe they spent more than five minutes in her company?

[alex_front2]

But Faye saw how annoyed Aaron was with Tom's underage girls 'joke' and kept schtum.

So basically Faye is 26. This makes sense as she seems to have had a lot of ex-boyfriends (she's mentioned 3 different ones including the 42 year old) and I never thought a 19 year old would generally go for older men.

When she applied to BB last year she was billed as 21. Now we find out it's not her birthday and she's a virgo...

[psychtracker]

This is at odds with the electoral register which shows her included as at 2002. People under 16 years of age are NOT included on the electoral register.


This has been well fleshed out on DS, appears the electoral websites are not known to be particularly accurate. The person whom posted this birth extract info on DS, has been a member of that forum since 2002, and is a paid up member of various genealogy websites. So this info seems quite legit.

[chuff me dizzy]

What is wrong with the Palmer family - all lying like mad about their true ages, and Aaron getting unjustified grief about the alleged "huge" age difference as if he's taken advantage of some poor inexperienced child.

Faye Palmer of Tamworth is listed on the electoral register in 2002 when you have to be at least 16 to be included on it so you she would have turned 17 in that year. That makes her in her mid 20s now:suspect: That must make Jemma in her mid 30s and she looks every day of it.

Seems lying comes naturally to the Palmer girls.

AND it was supposed to be her birthday yesterday !!

[flamingGalah!]

If she is capable of lying about her age & even when her birthday is, then she is more than capable of lying about other things. Aaron needs to drop her like a bag of sick...

[chuff me dizzy]

If she is capable of lying about her age & even when her birthday is, then she is more than capable of lying about other things. Aaron needs to drop her like a bag of sick...

And he will !!!

[psychtracker]

AND it was supposed to be her birthday yesterday !!

Yeah, i think that's a dodgy one!! appears her B'day was just before BB started (and in fitting with the birth extract), but likely the "Palmer Clan" cooked up an idea that if she was to be in BB toward the end, she'd get extra exposure and attention having a party. So, she wrote her b'day at Nov 2 on application. Hence, BB first claimed she was 19. But i think BB got wind of it, and put the brakes on it, and rectified her age to 20.

On a separate topic, according to Wikipedia, Alex's Bday is 6th Nov, and Tom's is 7th Nov. I've heard Alex talking of her impending B'day, but not Tom. I wonder if he "cooked the books", as well?! :conf:

[karezza]

Has Faye told Aaron her real age?

[Videostar]

Faye cant even tell the truth about her first name, so what do you expect.?

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, i think that's a dodgy one!! appears her B'day was just before BB started (and in fitting with the birth extract), but likely the "Palmer Clan" cooked up an idea that if she was to be in BB toward the end, she'd get extra exposure and attention having a party. So, she wrote her b'day at Nov 2 on application. Hence, BB first claimed she was 19. But i think BB got wind of it, and put the brakes on it, and rectified her age to 20.

On a separate topic, according to Wikipedia, Alex's Bday is 6th Nov, and Tom's is 7th Nov. I've heard Alex talking of her impending B'day, but not Tom. I wonder if he "cooked the books", as well?! :conf:

Ive heard of Alexs ,didnt know about Toms ????? IFFY !!!!!! :suspect::evilgrin:

[psychtracker]

Ive heard of Alexs ,didnt know about Toms ????? IFFY !!!!!! :suspect::evilgrin:

Yep, has anyone heard Tom speaking of his Bday i wonder?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_Brother_2011_housemates_%28UK%29#Tom

Tom

Thomas "Tom" O'Connell (born 7 November 1990) is a sales assistant from Solihull, West Midlands.

Faye

Faye Palmer (born 2 November 1991) is a wrestler from Tamworth, Birmingham.

Alex

Alex Rose Lee (born 6 November 1992) from South Shields, Tyne & Wear.


I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems statistically unlikely 3 HMs would all have B'days within 10 days of the final. We know Faye's has now been debunked. But, if anyone here has access to the birth extract sites, it'd be great if they could verify.

[erinp5]

Yep, has anyone heard Tom speaking of his Bday i wonder?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_Brother_2011_housemates_%28UK%29#Tom

Tom

Thomas "Tom" O'Connell (born 7 November 1990) is a sales assistant from Solihull, West Midlands.

Faye

Faye Palmer (born 2 November 1991) is a wrestler from Tamworth, Birmingham.

Alex

Alex Rose Lee (born 6 November 1992) from South Shields, Tyne & Wear.


I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems statistically unlikely 3 HMs would all have B'days within 10 days of the final. We know Faye's has now been debunked. But, if anyone here has access to the birth extract sites, it'd be great if they could verify.

Went to the link given for Tom ,it comes up No such page?

[erinp5]

Found it.
Thomas "Tom" O'Connell (born 7 November 1990) is a sales assistant from Solihull, West Midlands.[20][21] On Day 26, Tom's efforts in meeting his target for doll production in the Toy Factory task gained the housemates a shopping budget of £500, despite his fellow 'workers' sabotaging the task with disruptive behaviour. On Day 31, Tom won a date with ex-contestant Rebeckah during the 'Let's get smashed' task.[18] On Day 41, he joined fellow housemates Aaron, Jem and Louise at the preview night of horror movie Paranormal Activity 3.[3].

Maybe Tom like Faye has forgotten it's their birthday.

[psychtracker]

Went to the link given for Tom ,it comes up No such page?

Works on my comp, just google - List of Big Brother 2011 housemates (UK)

[Gillian-73]

Yep, has anyone heard Tom speaking of his Bday i wonder?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_Brother_2011_housemates_%28UK%29#Tom

Tom

Thomas "Tom" O'Connell (born 7 November 1990) is a sales assistant from Solihull, West Midlands.

Faye

Faye Palmer (born 2 November 1991) is a wrestler from Tamworth, Birmingham.

Alex

Alex Rose Lee (born 6 November 1992) from South Shields, Tyne & Wear.


I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems statistically unlikely 3 HMs would all have B'days within 10 days of the final. We know Faye's has now been debunked. But, if anyone here has access to the birth extract sites, it'd be great if they could verify.

It was said on bots the other night during the horoscope thing that tom was born the day after alex, the date i mean, i'm not sure about the years! i've heard no mention of tom's birthday in the house though and as for faye, god only know's what's going on there.

[MaratSafinForever]

What did she say was her real name last night? I didn't catch it.

[psychtracker]

What did she say was her real name last night? I didn't catch it.

I think she said her other names were Anthea & Francis. That seems accurate with the birth extract info i posted earlier - Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F

[Gillian-73]

BBUKLive: 1133: Alex and Tom
are wondering if they'll get tasks
for their birthdays #BBUKLive
The house know it's tom's birthday then!

[psychtracker]

BBUKLive: 1133: Alex and Tom
are wondering if they'll get tasks
for their birthdays #BBUKLive
The house know it's tom's birthday then!

tnx for the update..hmm..so it's been acknowledged then! finally!! i'm still a little bit sus on this..

[MachoPoodle]

Whether or not Faye's age is accurate, it's still the matter of Aaron messing about with 3 much younger HMs. Even if it should turn out that Faye's older than what she's said, he didn't know that... It's not just about the age difference either, 10 years between a 30 yo and a 40 yo isn't the same as this. To say such a man has high morals, good principles and is a gentleman is beyond ridiculous.

[King Gizzard]

It's because when you reach a certain age in the wrestling biz, the least likely you are to get booked for appearances (as a woman)... hence why they're trying to stay as close to or below 25 as possible!

Apparently Jem got signed by the WWE last year but soon got released and didn't even make it to the training/development territory (where you go before you go to the main roster, Florida Championship Wrestling), maybe her age was something to do with it?

She couldn't get a work permit

[Pyramid*]

If she is capable of lying about her age & even when her birthday is, then she is more than capable of lying about other things. Aaron needs to drop her like a bag of sick...

Now correct me here Flaming: but haven't a heck of a lot of us been saying that Faye is a liar and has been for many many weeks now: and not just about her age.

[Pyramid*]

Whether or not Faye's age is accurate, it's still the matter of Aaron messing about with 3 much younger HMs. Even if it should turn out that Faye's older than what she's said, he didn't know that... It's not just about the age difference either, 10 years between a 30 yo and a 40 yo isn't the same as this. To say such a man has high morals, good principles and is a gentleman is beyond ridiculous.

No it's not. Whatever age she claims to be: she's had men far older than Aaron.

She clearly likes 'older men'. Possibly because by the time BB finishes, we'll find out that she's really 35 or something....... :joker:

[boomoo]

Someone's reputably posted the birth extracts on DS :

From the Official Birth Registrations:

Name: PALMER, Jemma Samantha T
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1983
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun .... (10th April?)
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1989
Month of Registration: October
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks of the event.

Jemma is 28, Faye is 22.

This is correct because Faye told Aaron yesterday she was called Faye Anthea Frances Palmer and there cannot be more than one of that combination of names. And on BBBOTS side Emma said Faye was a Scorpion and she was corrected by the guest who said she was not. I am sure he said she was a Virgo.

[boomoo]

Whether or not Faye's age is accurate, it's still the matter of Aaron messing about with 3 much younger HMs. Even if it should turn out that Faye's older than what she's said, he didn't know that... It's not just about the age difference either, 10 years between a 30 yo and a 40 yo isn't the same as this. To say such a man has high morals, good principles and is a gentleman is beyond ridiculous.

It is because he knows an older woman would not put up with his childish behaviour.

[Gillian-73]

This is correct because Faye told Aaron yesterday she was called Faye Anthea Frances Palmer and there cannot be more than one of that combination of names. And on BBBOTS side Emma said Faye was a Scorpion and she was corrected by the guest who said she was not. I am sure he said she was a Virgo.

Yes he did say virgo! same as me, so august-september!

[psychtracker]

Yes, seems her correct birth date is 2 Sept 1989, as opposed to 2 Nov 1991. Appears she had a couple pen slip ups on her application form..

[Marmalite]

Whether or not Faye's age is accurate, it's still the matter of Aaron messing about with 3 much younger HMs. Even if it should turn out that Faye's older than what she's said, he didn't know that... It's not just about the age difference either, 10 years between a 30 yo and a 40 yo isn't the same as this. To say such a man has high morals, good principles and is a gentleman is beyond ridiculous.


Seriously??? What era do you live in? And what 'messing about' is he actually doing?

He kissed Tom as a dare - it was a dare and nothing came out of it. He didn't mess Tom around or continue to get off with him. Tom went overboard but then Tom is a whinging whiney little bitching brat, so there's no surprise at how he made out to be so wounded after the silly kiss.

He got off with Maisy once - that's it, he never went further and nothing happened again. Plus Maisy was regularly flaunting herself in next to nothing around the house since the moment she entered, yet I don't hear you or anyone else saying "OMG BB shouldn't exploit a 19 year old on national tv like that".

He's having a relationship with Faye - Faye who is 23 and could possibly be even older, so that's 7 or less years difference? What the hell is wrong with that?


I've heard some ridiculous bites and bitches at Aaron but this one takes the cake! Well done! :joker:

[Pyramid*]

This is correct because Faye told Aaron yesterday she was called Faye Anthea Frances Palmer and there cannot be more than one of that combination of names. And on BBBOTS side Emma said Faye was a Scorpion and she was corrected by the guest who said she was not. I am sure he said she was a Virgo.

Actually...didn't she say Frances Anthea Faye Palmer, and said that she used Faye for coming onto the show - which DIRECTLY corresponds to the info. :) (she then added in Chloe but then burst out laughing)

Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1989
Month of Registration: October
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

[G1dds]

It is because he knows an older woman would not put up with his childish behaviour.



Oh, I would put up with Aaron any day of the week :lovedup:

Gosh, I hope he joins as a member after, so I can continue my slu*ty behaviour directly to him :evilgrin:

[flamingGalah!]

Whether or not Faye's age is accurate, it's still the matter of Aaron messing about with 3 much younger HMs. Even if it should turn out that Faye's older than what she's said, he didn't know that... It's not just about the age difference either, 10 years between a 30 yo and a 40 yo isn't the same as this. To say such a man has high morals, good principles and is a gentleman is beyond ridiculous.

Are you taking the pi**??? :shocked:

What on earth is wrong with a 30 year old kissing, shagging or even marrying a 19, 20, 21 (or 22, 23, 24 in Fayes case) year old??? It is perfectly legal & what exactly is so wrong or indeed immoral about it? Please explain...

[RodHull]

Jemma is 28, Faye is 22.[/I]

Sod Faye, the more surprising thing is Jemma is only 28!! She looks at least 38 tbh, she could easily pass for my Wifes Aunt or something, and my wife is 33.

Are you taking the pi**??? :shocked:

What on earth is wrong with a 30 year old kissing, shagging or even marrying a 19, 20, 21 (or 22, 23, 24 in Fayes case) year old??? It is perfectly legal & what exactly is so wrong or indeed immoral about it? Please explain...

Added to the fact that Faye has dated a 42 year old before (Cant believe he put up with her school playground antics tbh)

[GabbygalEvs]

theres no way shes 19 she went out with a 40 year old wot when she was what age?

none of it makes any sense

[psychtracker]

Interestingly on tonight's show Louise mentioned that Faye is mature for a 20 yr old. So, it appears to be the age she's telling her fellow HMs that she is. I wonder if Louise also thinks she's mature for a 22 yr old? ;)

[MachoPoodle]

No it's not. Whatever age she claims to be: she's had men far older than Aaron.

She clearly likes 'older men'. Possibly because by the time BB finishes, we'll find out that she's really 35 or something....... :joker:

Good on you for missing the entire point. Carry on.

[Pyramid*]

Good on you for missing the entire point. Carry on.

Deary me!!

[MachoPoodle]

Seriously??? What era do you live in? And what 'messing about' is he actually doing?

He kissed Tom as a dare - it was a dare and nothing came out of it. He didn't mess Tom around or continue to get off with him. Tom went overboard but then Tom is a whinging whiney little bitching brat, so there's no surprise at how he made out to be so wounded after the silly kiss.

He got off with Maisy once - that's it, he never went further and nothing happened again. Plus Maisy was regularly flaunting herself in next to nothing around the house since the moment she entered, yet I don't hear you or anyone else saying "OMG BB shouldn't exploit a 19 year old on national tv like that".

He's having a relationship with Faye - Faye who is 23 and could possibly be even older, so that's 7 or less years difference? What the hell is wrong with that?


I've heard some ridiculous bites and bitches at Aaron but this one takes the cake! Well done! :joker:

What has Maisy flaunting herself got to do with anything? That kind of reasoning is verging on something pretty darn serious... Again, as far as Aaron knows Faye is 20, and that's what matters when it comes to his part of it, not what age she actually is. With Tom, it wasn't just the kiss. They did flirt, they cuddled in bed etc.

[MachoPoodle]

Are you taking the pi**??? :shocked:

What on earth is wrong with a 30 year old kissing, shagging or even marrying a 19, 20, 21 (or 22, 23, 24 in Fayes case) year old??? It is perfectly legal & what exactly is so wrong or indeed immoral about it? Please explain...

The point was it wasn't just ONE much younger person, it's been THREE. That constitutes a pattern. And yes, I think it's shady behaviour to go after someone with that much less experience. Sometimes there really are genuine feelings involved, but there's not much in this case indicating that.

[flamingGalah!]

The point was it wasn't just ONE much younger person, it's been THREE. That constitutes a pattern. And yes, I think it's shady behaviour to go after someone with that much less experience. Sometimes there really are genuine feelings involved, but there's not much in this case indicating that.

Tom he kissed for a DARE, I don't know how many times this has to be said before it sinks in...

Maisy was a very willing partner & they kissed. Big deal...

Faye, however old she really is, has gone out with men MUCH older than Aaron, so I'm sure she doesn't think he's too old for her...

Besides I have no doubt that Tom, Maisy & Faye each have far more "experience" than Aaron has! :joker:

[dyfed]

Someone's reputably posted the birth extracts on DS :

From the Official Birth Registrations:

Name: PALMER, Jemma Samantha T
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1983
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun .... (10th April?)
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Name: PALMER, Faye Anthea F
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickhire
Year of Registration: 1989
Month of Registration: October
Mother's Maiden Name: Harris

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks of the event.

Jemma is 28, Faye is 22.
Wonder how many more lies there are.........

[MachoPoodle]

Tom he kissed for a DARE, I don't know how many times this has to be said before it sinks in...


And how many times does it take before it sinks in it wasn't just about the one kiss? Read previous post again.


Faye, however old she really is, has gone out with men MUCH older than Aaron, so I'm sure she doesn't think he's too old for her...

Besides I have no doubt that Tom, Maisy & Faye each have far more "experience" than Aaron has! :joker:

Are you deliberately missing the point? But sure, whatever, I'm bored of this futile discussion anyway.

[Pyramid*]

The point was it wasn't just ONE much younger person, it's been THREE. That constitutes a pattern. And yes, I think it's shady behaviour to go after someone with that much less experience. Sometimes there really are genuine feelings involved, but there's not much in this case indicating that.

so what? The same is said about Faye then..... she hasn't just had ONE much older person (your words) - she's has a history of wanting older men. That constitutes a pattern with Faye. maybe she likes to go after men with more experience.....

So what is the problem exactly?

[Bojangles]

Didn't Louise question Faye and Alex last night on their ages,saying how strong they both were for their ages,she wouldn't have been as strong as them at their tender age.I don't think they replied to that query.

[Gillian-73]

Didn't Louise question Faye and Alex last night on their ages,saying how strong they both were for their ages,she wouldn't have been as strong as them at their tender age.I don't think they replied to that query.

They were having a conversation, she didn't question them about their ages! she mentioned them but that's all.

[cell]

I think they get it from their mum, have you heard her on BOTS? Jamie East doesn't even want to go there. Apparently Faye had "had enough drama for an entire life" yet she is suppose to be early 20's... ?l

[MachoPoodle]

I think they get it from their mum, have you heard her on BOTS? Jamie East doesn't even want to go there. Apparently Faye had "had enough drama for an entire life" yet she is suppose to be early 20's... ?l

I don't claim to know anything about Faye's background, but not everyone grows up sheltered, you know... Surely you're aware that kids and teenagers can go through tough times too?