Aarons gameplan

[Vicky.]

One of the best posts I have read in quite a long time.

I keep reading and hearing that Aaron is a gameplayer and has a plan, presumably that is supposed to get him to the final and win the 100K. Even some of his fans seem to think he has a plan but defend him saying its a gameshow etc. So what exactly is this brilliant plan supposed to be? :conf:

If I was on Big Brother and had a plan to win, I think firstly I'd do my best to get on with all my other housemates so that I'd avoid nominations and cruise through to the final and along the way try to endear myself to the public by being funny, entertaining and likeable (errrm, Alex anyone?)

Sounds sensible doesn't it?

So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)

Do all of the above to get yourself nominated every week, with the slim hope that the viewers might save you because you have a dry sense of humour and say "crikey" and "oh Dear" a lot.

Somehow, incredibly, it turns out the public do take to you and you realise you are actually quite popular when you keep coming first in the weekly votes to save.

So what do you do? Sit back confidently and continue to make your dry quips and amusing mannerisms to cruise through to the final?

Oh no! That would be too easy. Instead when you realise you've won the public over and everyone left is finally friends and getting along great and can't bring themselves to properly nominate anyone coz you're all good mates, you save the best till last, and dressed as the devil, you betray all your friends and girlfriend and give the public the best reason possible to hate you and change their minds about you with a week to go!

What a brilliant game plan Aaron! Not! His gamepan if he has one is suicidal! If he is following a plan it is surely the worst plan in history since Baldrick tied a piece of cheese to his nose to catch a mouse. :eek:

Or maybe, he doesn't have a gameplan, and is just being his rather strange self, with all his flaws, which is why so many of us like him and will contiune to vote for him to win :)

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1572097


Raises some excellent points IMO. IF he has a gameplan, it has gotta be the worst one ever. As most things he has done are more likely to turn the public against him than make him more popular....and as a long time viewers of BB he must know this.

[ChristmasNeeve]

haha, it is a great post Vicky. Personally I think most people like Aaron because he's interesting to watch, simple as that really. He's a fascinating character, whether he's playing a game or not I don't really care, I like him and he's made the show so entertaining for me.

[Suze]

As much as I like Aaron, I think any other year him being such a marmite BB housemate, he would have been out about half way through the series if we still had the negative voting. I think the positive voting has helped a lot in keeping the more interesting housemates in, and those housemates who aren't too interesting and swan through to the final by not getting nommed, well that can't be helped, as a couple are bound to slip through.

I am surprised this BB we have had no all housemates up before the final and no double or triple evictions though.

[Kazanne]

One of the best posts I have read in quite a long time.



http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1572097


Raises some excellent points IMO. IF he has a gameplan, it has gotta be the worst one ever. As most things he has done are more likely to turn the public against him than make him more popular....and as a long time viewers of BB he must know this.

Good post Vicky,Why would anyone go through what Aaron has if he wants to win,as the post says,he hasn't curried favour with the public,We all may get a huge shock when he comes out and maybe find out he has never had the game plan!!!that we thought he had,:xyxwave:

[Cherry Christmas]

C5 could have helped us rid ourselves of deadwood by putting the whole house up for eviction, its a shame we never got the chance to boot Tom out before the final...so next year C5 whole house up at least once in the series.

[chuff me dizzy]

I doubt very much Aaron has more of a gameplan than anyone else in there ,you could look at a few of them and see they all have sussed it out

[djr2514]

Aaron's game plan is to entertain the tv audience and win the game. Why does he sulk and not get along with others? He gets more camera time which equals more fans. Yes he could of been boring like tom/alex with their childish games, but read the boards people are getting borred with them, and alex has a web page with pics of her kissing another girl. Also Tom has been a good person in there done what he is told for tasks, but is that entertaining enough for him to win, no. People want Tom out first at the finals. I guess he could be disgusting like Lou and Jay farting and pooing in freezer, but a lot of people find them disgusting and want them out. So by Aaron breaking the mode and being difficult in there he is the most favorite to win and I think he will win. So tell me again why he should of played different?

[Rustic bauble]

Maybe he is a mole....:joker: and thats why BB are giving him such bad press and bad editing cos he is in danger of winning!!!....now that would make sense...lol...

I love Aaron...he has been unique and the more anti Aaron posts and the more crap he gets on BBOTS..the more I support him.He has made this years show.To think that Louise,Tom and Alex are still there when they have added nothing to the show...beats me!!.
I like Faye although she has messed more with Aarons head than he has her...she has bitched about him and nominated him unyet Aaron gets the blame fo messing her around.He is a complex character but apart from the kiss with Maisey at the beginning he has been totally loyal with Faye albeit his occassional sulks....Faye has been far worse.

Aaron simply deserves to win....and I will vote and vote and vote and support him till the end. :dance::dance::dance:

[jet]

So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)

You betray all your friends and girlfriend and give the public the best reason possible to hate you and change their minds about you with a week to go!

Nice to see an Aaron fan admitting that Aaron actually did the things others have been seeing all along. They have always been denied. *sniff*

[Incensed]

Cos so many peeps like him, I'm really trying to myself. Not to be a sheep or anything, his moods and petulance just drive me to distraction and I'm really trying to see what the attraction is. :conf:

[Suze]

Maybe he is a mole....:joker: and thats why BB are giving him such bad press and bad editing cos he is in danger of winning!!!....now that would make sense...lol...

I love Aaron...he has been unique and the more anti Aaron posts and the more crap he gets on BBOTS..the more I support him.He has made this years show.To think that Louise,Tom and Alex are still there when they have added nothing to the show...beats me!!.
I like Faye although she has messed more with Aarons head than he has her...she has bitched about him and nominated him unyet Aaron gets the blame fo messing her around.He is a complex character but apart from the kiss with Maisey at the beginning he has been totally loyal with Faye albeit his occassional sulks....Faye has been far worse.

Aaron simply deserves to win....and I will vote and vote and vote and support him till the end. :dance::dance::dance:

Had to laugh at the video on C5 site earlier tonight. Aaron and Faye wanted a quick kiss and cuddle so cooked up a go at each other, so they could nip to the store room quick for their kiss and cuddle. But it looks like the other housemates weren't fooled by the pair of them :joker:

[psychtracker]

It was Anton really, who perpetuated this myth that he was a genius manipulator, studied in the game...and then to a lessor extent Harry. His only great move was getting Jay to vote for Harry that time, and have him and Faye avoid being nominated. If he was as clever and cunning as some claim, he likely would've been gone weeks ago. I think the reason he's done so well, and lasted as long as he has, is because of all the flaws in his game plan.

[thesheriff443]

aaron has survived beacuse other housemates have just put up with his sulks not wanting to rock the boat to much and put a negative on their own chances!

[Tourmaline]

I really hope Aaron wins he so deserves it

[RodHull]

Nice to see an Aaron fan admitting that Aaron actually did the things others have been seeing all along. They have always been denied. *sniff*

So your admitting he doesnt have a gameplan then? :wavey:

Or perhaps he didnt 'betray' anyone except Louise, but it was generally perceived as his fault Faye was up due to awful editing and every other HM lining up to kick him cause they know hes a favourite to win.

[In the Drunk Tank]

I agree with that post, I don't think he's playing a game and never have done, it seems to me though that there's a division between his fans; there seems to be those who go on about what a great gameplayer he is and considering it's a positive thing, and then the rest are insistent that he's genuine and not trying to play anyone

[GabbygalEvs]

great points there in that post

its got to be the worst gameplan ever lol

[GabbygalEvs]

great points there in that post

its got to be the worst gameplan ever lol

[The Human Santapede]

C5 could have helped us rid ourselves of deadwood by putting the whole house up for eviction, its a shame we never got the chance to boot Tom out before the final...so next year C5 whole house up at least once in the series.

Doesn't always work though. Fans get tactical in their voting.

-remembers Nikki's eviction in BB7-

[RodHull]

I agree with that post, I don't think he's playing a game and never have done, it seems to me though that there's a division between his fans; there seems to be those who go on about what a great gameplayer he is and considering it's a positive thing, and then the rest are insistent that he's genuine and not trying to play anyone

I dont think so, its all about being realistic.

As BB fans surely anyone with a brain accepts that all HMs have a gameplan to some extent. All of them act slightly differently in the house to how they are outside, its impossible not to, being such a fake and weird environment.

When I say hes a gameplayer, I mean he understand the basic concept behind BB, which surprisingly few HMs ever have. Most of them are obsessed with keeping the other HMs onside (Anton is a good example) but forget that the public see all the plotting and scheming.

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

[Visage]

Great post, totally agree with it and we've been harping on about this for weeks, so it's great to read this is active on other forums. Thanks Vicky for posting this:)

[Vicky.]

Doesn't always work though. Fans get tactical in their voting.

-remembers Nikki's eviction in BB7-

That was everyone up with vote to evict though wasnt it?

Vote to save is different. If you want someone OUT you would have to vote for loads of other people multiple times

[Cromwell1900]

Didn't Aaron say he was going in with a game plan on his entry VT i think?

[In the Drunk Tank]

I dont think so, its all about being realistic.

As BB fans surely anyone with a brain accepts that all HMs have a gameplan to some extent. All of them act slightly differently in the house to how they are outside, its impossible not to, being such a fake and weird environment.

When I say hes a gameplayer, I mean he understand the basic concept behind BB, which surprisingly few HMs ever have. Most of them are obsessed with keeping the other HMs onside (Anton is a good example) but forget that the public see all the plotting and scheming.

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

I think they all do or say certain things to try and give them a better chance of winning and to endear themselves to the public, that will probably always be at the back of their minds. However to me a "gameplan" suggest some kind of formulaic strategy which I don't believe Aaron has. I don't think he's trying to be someone he's not in order to win votes, I do think we're seeing the real him, and as you say being genuine. But I don't consider it a gameplan to "be genuine", the two seem antithetical to me, you're not playing much of a game and you haven't really got much of a plan if you're just being yourself.

And I don't agree that Anton forgot the public could see his scheming, the opposite in fact, his game plan was for the benefit of the public and he included the viewers in it; that's the kind of gameplayer I like.

[Visage]

Didn't Aaron say he was going in with a game plan on his entry VT i think?

Yeah he did.

That said everyone who goes into BB generally say anything to aid them an entry ticket.

[Nine Lives]

Yep.

I'm honestly surprised by how the chirpy bland people who are following the lead of previous winners are lauded for being "real" and "true to themselves", while Aaron, whose behavior doesn't remotely resemble previous winners, is chided for being a "game player", and everything he does is labeled as manipulative.

The most manipulation we've seen from him was in his VT and audition tapes. Somehow Aaron's tapes are taken at face value, while everyone else's are dismissed as "oh, that's just how they tried to get on the show". (Wasn't Jay's about how much sex he had in Thailand with prostitutes? Am I remembering that right?) Yet Aaron is really the manipulative, arrogant mastermind of his tapes, and everything he does in the house is fake and calculated. :conf:

Aaron's really bared his soul in there, and exposed a complicated, flawed personality that seems far more three-dimensional than what the others are allowing us to see on TV. I have no doubt that Alex, Jay, Louise, and Tom are all complex, interesting people, but I couldn't tell you how. (Faye I will say has been an onion, as she said tonight on Bit on the Side, for better or for worse.)

As far as manipulation, we have seen him try to manipulate people - badly! He's been nominated more times than anyone else this year! So how he's suddenly playing this blinder of a game with Faye really, really baffles me.

Even if he's playing up for the camera at times - which they all are - I think Aaron's still the most "real" of all of them. For all the housemates who've come out of the house and accused Aaron of manipulating the audience, I think they just fail to understand why he's so well-liked. Of course they're resentful, they weren't liked as much.

It takes true guts to go on TV and bear this much to the cameras, especially with that much money on the line. Aaron's got more guts than any of them, and isn't afraid to let it all hang out, for better or for worse.

Aaron to win!

[psychtracker]

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

I disagree with that, if you go into the house with any serious ambitions toward winning, i think you totally have to factor in keeping your fellow HMs on side. As soon as you become too ostracized from the group, rightly or wrongly, it rubs off on your public perception. Aaron's been fortunate that he's had some good weeks with the group, as well as the bad weeks. If all his time was spent dis associating with the group, and not concerning himself with their opinions of him, the public would have been more and more pissed off at his attitude to the point that his support numbers would have been down enough for him to be evicted.

[Cromwell1900]

Yeah he did.

That said everyone who goes into BB generally say anything to aid them an entry ticket.

But then we saw something on Day 1 which clearly supported the claim

i.e Rebeckah i like you turns around walks off and mutters i hate that girl

Day 1

Was his admission to manipulating noms to Gem not an indication of a continuation of his game plan?

[StraightEdge695]

I really hope Aaron wins he so deserves it

this :wavey:

[RodHull]

I disagree with that, if you go into the house with any serious ambitions toward winning, i think you totally have to factor in keeping your fellow HMs on side. As soon as you become too ostracized from the group, rightly or wrongly, it rubs off on your public perception. Aaron's been fortunate that he's had some good weeks with the group, as well as the bad weeks. If all his time was spent dis associating with the group, and not concerning himself with their opinions of him, the public would have been more and more pissed off at his attitude to the point that his support numbers would have been down enough for him to be evicted.

Im not saying to deliberately p*** them off or push them away, clearly that would affect his public perception as well. You misunderstand my point.

He is just his own person, and as such there are times when the HMs like him and times they think he's a total bellend. And being his own person means he is and generally has been unpopular with the HMs from day 1 pretty much. And no it hasnt affected how the public see him, neither has the hatchet job BB have attempted on him.

Cause, like I said he understands that if hes true to himself and consistent, then he has little to fear. Thats why weeks back he knew Anton would be hated, cause he knew how dishonest, snidey, unpleasant and generally sexist Anton had been. He totally understands what the public want, and no doubt what he liked when he watched BB (as he is a big fan of the show)

[jet]

Great post, totally agree with it and we've been harping on about this for weeks, so it's great to read this is active on other forums. Thanks Vicky for posting this:)

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic. :laugh2::dance2::cheer2:

[RodHull]

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic. :laugh2::dance2::cheer2:

What im loving is your desperate attempt to claw some victory from an epic fail. Everything in that post proves he isnt a gameplayer (as people like you suggest) but that hes a flawed and complex, but honest and decent bloke.

I dont see how that IN ANY WAY proves what people like you have been saying (thats hes a gameplaying weasel)

So please enlighten me then, how is that post right if you still believe hes a gameplayer? I mean clearly the post is typed in a way to highlight how his detractors view his actions.

You know people like you, they view everything he does as nasty and malicious, yet also say hes a game player. The two things cannot both be true. Its not aimed at his fans, we know that those events did happen but not in the way or for the reasons you suggest.

[Nine Lives]

But then we saw something on Day 1 which clearly supported the claim

i.e Rebeckah i like you turns around walks off and mutters i hate that girl

Day 1

Was his admission to manipulating noms to Gem not an indication of a continuation of his game plan?

That was Week One, not Day One, and Rebeckah had just spent god knows how long (we only saw an edited version) slagging Aaron to his face left and right, insulting his personality and values, saying Aden was more of a man than he would ever be, and chewing him out for trying to make jokes. He pulled her aside to try to clear the air, and she ended it by shouting an insult at his face as she walked off. That was when he muttered how he hated her.

As for manipulating the noms, he got himself on the block to give Faye a better chance at staying. What a monster.

[Visage]

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic. :laugh2::dance2::cheer2:

I've never blasted anyone on here regardless of who they support. I've also never posted that I think Aaron is some Lord who can do no wrong. He's my favourite in there and there are times when he pisses me off too.

[Cromwell1900]

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic. :laugh2::dance2::cheer2:

Oh Wow :eureka:

I so missed that Jet

[Qouting Op's Qoute]
So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)
[End Qoute]

:joker::joker::joker:

[psychtracker]

Im not saying to deliberately p*** them off or push them away, clearly that would affect his public perception as well. You misunderstand my point.

He is just his own person, and as such there are times when the HMs like him and times they think he's a total bellend. And being his own person means he is and generally has been unpopular with the HMs from day 1 pretty much. And no it hasnt affected how the public see him, neither has the hatchet job BB have attempted on him.

Cause, like I said he understands that if hes true to himself and consistent, then he has little to fear. Thats why weeks back he knew Anton would be hated, cause he knew how dishonest, snidey, unpleasant and generally sexist Anton had been. He totally understands what the public want, and no doubt what he liked when he watched BB (as he is a big fan of the show)

Of course being his own person has affected the way the public see's him. A perfect example is when he voted against the group plan the other day, he likely went from having a 30-40% chance of winning BB to a 20% chance of winning. I'm absolutely NOT saying what he did was morally right or wrong. But, what i am saying is that his actions gave his HMs and the public the ammunition needed to discredit him. If he simply followed orders he'd definitely have a far better chance of winning right now.

[Cromwell1900]

That was Week One, not Day One, and Rebeckah had just spent god knows how long (we only saw an edited version) slagging Aaron to his face left and right, insulting his personality and values, saying Aden was more of a man than he would ever be, and chewing him out for trying to make jokes. He pulled her aside to try to clear the air, and she ended it by shouting an insult at his face as she walked off. That was when he muttered how he hated her.

As for manipulating the noms, he got himself on the block to give Faye a better chance at staying. What a monster.

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.

And the noms thing, well your polarizing the argument really by making it about monsters or saints, good guys bad guys, it's not about that at all it's about is he playing a game. regardless of his reasoning manipulating votes by it's very definition strikes me as Game

[Visage]

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.

And the noms thing, well your polarizing the argument really by making it about monsters or saints, good guys bad guys, it's not about that at all it's about is he playing a game. regardless of his reasoning manipulating votes by it's very definition strikes me as Game

I think there is some confusion around this. (for me)

There was a time (I thought it was during week two) when Aaron hugged Rebeckah after some argument. He went on to tell her she was his favourite girl in there. She then walked off and he went into the toilet and said something like 'God I hate that women'

Unless you are talking about another completely different conversation.

[RodHull]

Of course being his own person has affected the way the public see's him. A perfect example is when he voted against the group plan the other day, he likely went from having a 30-40% chance of winning BB to a 20% chance of winning. I'm absolutely NOT saying what he did was morally right or wrong. But, what i am saying is that his actions gave his HMs and the public the ammunition needed to discredit him. If he simply followed orders he'd definitely have a far better chance of winning right now.

Yeah granted its a fine line, but thats same fine line has got him this far and he will be remembered a long time after the shows ended, even if Alex ends up winning. He will go down in BB history, the others will be forgotten. And lets be honest, none of them care much about the main prize anymore, its just about being remembered and not forgettable. And besides I dont think it affected his chances much at all, I think his supporters have the intelligence to see that it was Louise who ****ed the whole thing up.

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.

And the noms thing, well your polarizing the argument really by making it about monsters or saints, good guys bad guys, it's not about that at all it's about is he playing a game. regardless of his reasoning manipulating votes by it's very definition strikes me as Game

Sorry but did she not also hate him (spent much of her time bitching about him) in those early weeks you arent just gonna come out and say you hate people. But days later he had made it pretty clear he didnt like her much. And at the time I think he just wanted rid of her, she was being drunk and annoying.

As for vote rigging, was it not the infamous wolfpack who block voted against him and his friends for weeks on end, dont you think he had every reason to try and fight back?

[Cromwell1900]

I think there is some confusion around this. (for me)

There was a time (I thought it was during week two) when Aaron hugged Rebeckah after some argument. He went on to tell her she was his favourite girl in there. She then walked off and he went into the toilet and said something like 'God I hate that women'

Unless you are talking about another completely different conversation.

Yep it's different, the incident i'm remembering took place outside in the garden. But what your describing sounds very similar doesn't it, and with that in mind i will check my facts before insisting i'm right. Edit or wrong of course:blush::blush::blush:

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think there is some confusion around this. (for me)

There was a time (I thought it was during week two) when Aaron hugged Rebeckah after some argument. He went on to tell her she was his favourite girl in there. She then walked off and he went into the toilet and said something like 'God I hate that women'

Unless you are talking about another completely different conversation.

Yeah I think you're right, it was after she'd gone on about how he was the kind of guy who thought he had everything when really he had nothing, and he replied "I've got a Nintendo Wii" :laugh:

[jet]

So your admitting he doesnt have a gameplan then? :wavey:

Or perhaps he didnt 'betray' anyone except Louise, but it was generally perceived as his fault Faye was up due to awful editing and every other HM lining up to kick him cause they know hes a favourite to win.

Of course he has a gameplan, but he's lousy at it. But when he topped the votes every time he was up for eviction, he realized that he should carry on with what he was doing as people must like it. So more moods, more devious behaviour - and many obviously do like it, though why on earth why I have no idea.
His actions are so contrived it is embarrassing, and his awareness of where the camera is (especially when he is snogging Faye) is nauseating.
Previously the fans insisted he had NO game plan. Then when Anton and Harry insisted that he had, many fans turned completely and hailed him as the master game planner. Now it has completely turned around again. I'm dizzy at the speed of which they change their minds to suit.
The truth is that many Aaron fans are stubborn and won't admit they were wrong - so he may well win. There will be plenty of 'I want to be proved right' votes. That's not what BB is about, and the whole spirit of it will be lost. God knows where BB will go from here in the years to come.

There are reasons many people can't stand him, and it has nothing to do with an Aaron hate conspiracy. There is hardly ever a guest on BOTS or OKTV that doesn't see through him - they have their own independent opinion but because it doesn't match those of Aaron fans they are part of some master conspiracy. Such nonsense.

[RodHull]

Yeah I think you're right, it was after she'd gone on about how he was the kind of guy who thought he had everything when really he had nothing, and he replied "I've got a Nintendo Wii" :laugh:

It was in the garden, she was drunk, rambling and trying to get a rise out of him in a 'jokey' way cause he spurned her frankly disgusting advances on day 1 when she was all over him like a cheap suit.

He said it just to get rid of her basically and shut her up.

[In the Drunk Tank]

It was in the garden, she was drunk, rambling and trying to get a rise out of him in a 'jokey' way cause he spurned her frankly disgusting advances on day 1 when she was all over him like a cheap suit.

He said it just to get rid of her basically and shut her up.

Yeah I know, I thought it was a good comeback :D

[Nine Lives]

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.


No. You're confusing two things that happened about five days apart.

The "have you ever weed on someone" was the first night, and aired on the Day One highlights ep.

"God, I hate her" was around Day Six? It was the first eviction episode. Remember, the clip was followed by Brian making fun of it, so it was a live show night.

"God, I hate her" followed a lengthy drunken discussion in the backyard. That was when Rebeckah was going on about how men thought possessions made their penises larger. Aaron said he had a Nintendo Wii and looked down at his groin. Rebeckah was not amused and told him how this made him a horrible person.

He chased after her to make amends, telling her she was becoming one of his favorite people. She responded by insulting him once more and yelling at him to sort himself out.

That's when he made the "God, I hate her" comment.

(I know, I know, this is way too much useless information.)

[RodHull]

Of course he has a gameplan, but he's lousy at it. But when he topped the votes every time he was up for eviction, he realized that he should carry on with what he was doing as people must like it. So more moods, more devious behaviour - and many obviously do like it, though why on earth why I have no idea.
His actions are so contrived it is embarrassing, and his awareness of where the camera is (especially when he is snogging Faye) is nauseating.
Previously the fans insisted he had NO game plan. Then when Anton and Harry insisted that he had, many fans turned completely and hailed him as the master game planner. Now it has completely turned around again. I'm dizzy at the speed of which they change their minds to suit.
The truth is that many Aaron fans are stubborn and won't admit they were wrong - so he may well win. There will be plenty of 'I want to be proved right' votes. That's not what BB is about, and the whole spirit of it will be lost. God knows where BB will go from here in the years to come.

There are reasons many people can't stand him, and it has nothing to do with an Aaron hate conspiracy. There is hardly ever a guest on BOTS or OKTV that doesn't see through him - they have their own independent opinion but because it doesn't match those of Aaron fans they are part of some master conspiracy. Such nonsense.

So he has a gameplan but its rubbish and everyone apart from everyone on ths forum and the 100s of 1000s who vote and keep him in totally agree with you??

Can I have some of what your smoking? Also selective memory much? His battle with the wolfpack (which he won with a cracking smile on his face) was legendary, his early humourous times with Tom (before he went bunnyboiler) and Harry were also great. In fact the only miserable sulky times he has had have totally reflected what most normal people thought.

He copped the ump with Jay offensive jokes and behaviour - check I would to. He copped the ump when they pathetically tried to be 'entertaining' by throwing food around - check I would to etc etc

What you cant stomach is that someone who you dont like is so liked. They all have gameplans of one form or another. They all feed off the public adoration, thats what BB is about. So what exactly is your point, how is he any different to anyone else.

Nothing he does is contrived, the reason he looks for the cameras is to hide as he knows Faye is a bit weird and awkward about it. Jay on the other hand virtually eye ***ks the camera lens, as does Louise with her feeble flirty glances right down the camera and poor attempts to hide her laughter in serious situations.

PS: Oh really dont start using that pit of crap that is BOTS as a valid reason to bash him. Its a scripted show, E Willis is on message, the 'fans' are mostly dullards who have nothing better to do each night than turn up for that crap and the panels are usually fairly split about him.

Indeed Liam (from BB? cant remember) who won that cash and seemed a really nice lad, said he couldnt understand the hatred and vitriol toward Aaron and all he thought he was guilty of was being a bit moody.

[Visage]

I think we got there in the end..:D

[Cromwell1900]

Yeah granted its a fine line, but thats same fine line has got him this far and he will be remembered a long time after the shows ended, even if Alex ends up winning. He will go down in BB history, the others will be forgotten. And lets be honest, none of them care much about the main prize anymore, its just about being remembered and not forgettable. And besides I dont think it affected his chances much at all, I think his supporters have the intelligence to see that it was Louise who ****ed the whole thing up.



Sorry but did she not also hate him (spent much of her time bitching about him) in those early weeks you arent just gonna come out and say you hate people. But days later he had made it pretty clear he didnt like her much. And at the time I think he just wanted rid of her, she was being drunk and annoying.


As for vote rigging, was it not the infamous wolfpack who block voted against him and his friends for weeks on end, dont you think he had every reason to try and fight back?

The point regardless for me is if he says one thing to her face and another behind her back, it's about keeping her sweet so she doesn't nom him, and i think that is backed up by him saying whilst walking around in the garden talking to himself words to the effect of

im sick of pretending to like people in here so they don't put me up.

And i accept he has the right to defend himself, and i am not saying this reveles a dark side to Aaron i am saying though, regardless of motive it's about how you defend yourself and he chose to do it via manipulating noms = game. I'm not sure what was happening with the Wolfpack that encouraged him manipulate the noms. I'd suggest it's been his plan all along and would of done it regardless of any provocation.

[psychtracker]

Yeah granted its a fine line, but thats same fine line has got him this far and he will be remembered a long time after the shows ended, even if Alex ends up winning. He will go down in BB history, the others will be forgotten. And lets be honest, none of them care much about the main prize anymore, its just about being remembered and not forgettable. And besides I dont think it affected his chances much at all, I think his supporters have the intelligence to see that it was Louise who ****ed the whole thing up.

Yeah, fair points, it's all risk/reward. Personally i really like seeing HMs defy the group/peer pressure. It makes for a much more interesting dynamic than a house full of fence sitters or robots. But, unfortunately often it doesn't do any favours with the public perception, is the only point i was making. I really hope you're right, and it doesn't affect his chances, but i guess i'm a little more pessimistic than you.

[jet]

So he has a gameplan but its rubbish and everyone apart from everyone on ths forum and the 100s of 1000s who vote and keep him in totally agree with you??

Not everyone on this forum agrees with YOU.

In fact the only miserable sulky times he has had have totally reflected what most normal people thought.

Speak for yourself.

He copped the ump with Jay offensive jokes and behaviour - check I would to. He copped the ump when they pathetically tried to be 'entertaining' by throwing food around - check I would to etc etc

So you are Aaron's 'twin' - and cop every ump he cops. Good for you.

What you cant stomach is that someone who you dont like is so liked. They all have gameplans of one form or another. They all feed off the public adoration, thats what BB is about. So what exactly is your point, how is he any different to anyone else.

I don't think you really want me to tell you.

Nothing he does is contrived, the reason he looks for the cameras is to hide as he knows Faye is a bit weird and awkward about it.

Then why grab her for a snog (both times) when the camera is right beside them and pointing at them? He does it when he is on his OWN plenty as well.

PS: Oh really dont start using that pit of crap that is BOTS as a valid reason to bash him. Its a scripted show, E Willis is on message, the 'fans' are mostly dullards who have nothing better to do each night than turn up for that crap and the panels are usually fairly split about him.

I didn't mention the fans, they are the same most of the time. I was talking about the panel guests who are FAR from split about him. I can't recall ONE guest in the last few weeks who has anything good to say about him - quite the opposite.

Indeed Liam (from BB? cant remember) who won that cash and seemed a really nice lad, said he couldnt understand the hatred and vitriol toward Aaron and all he thought he was guilty of was being a bit moody.

So Liam the oracle has spoken. That proves Aaron must be great. :hugesmile:
Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Aaron - I think he is manipulative, immature, self - centered and a wet fish and yes, I don't understand BB fans admiration for him. I really don't. But I don't hate him - lets say I don't think he would be a worthy winner because I don't admire his behaviour.

[Pyramid*]

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.

And the noms thing, well your polarizing the argument really by making it about monsters or saints, good guys bad guys, it's not about that at all it's about is he playing a game. regardless of his reasoning manipulating votes by it's very definition strikes me as Game

You are so wrong Cromwell. It wasn't the first day at all. And as far as I recall - Rebeckah also made some comment about her own looks when he said about her being his fav girl, trying to get a compliment from him into the bargain, and Aaron didn't bite.......then she went off, he went to the loo, and as he opened the door to the loo, that's when he said, "God I hate that girl".

It was most definately NOT the first day. You are 100% wrong.

[Angus]

So what if Aaron is moody and sulky at times? Jeez the amount of cr*p he's had thrown his way by BB itself as well as his fellow HMs has been disgusting. NONE of the other HMs have had to deal with anything like the hatchet job Channel 5 have tried (and failed) to do on him throughout the whole show. On top of that he is with the nightmare that is Faye who has played mind games with him throughout. He's bloody entitled to be moody and sulky - and most reasonable people would cut him some slack.

Some people deal with anger and frustration aggressively like Jay and Anton, and to a lesser extent Harry, some deal with it passive/aggressively like Tom and Faye, constantly sniping and turning every situation around to make themselves the victim. Aaron deals with it by removing himself from the situation causing him stress - so why don't people just get that everyone's way of coping is different? I admire him for not faking his persona, he has shown us every side of himself, and those that like him take the good with the bad, just as we do in real life with people we choose to be our friends. We either decide the bad outweighs the good and avoid like the plague, or that the good outweighs the bad and makes a friendship worthwhile.

I maintain that every single HM has a game plan, some are better than others. Alex's is clearly successful in that she has been deliberately inoffensive and avoided being nominated by her fellow HMs and sailed through to the final. Jay's and Louise's is blindingly obvious, a fauxmance where neither rock the boat, pity they're both so repulsive. Jay's original game plan (the pathetic wolfpack) was destroyed by Aaron, so he must be thanking his lucky stars he had the backup of the fauxmance. Tom's is to attach himself to the obvious favourite (I'm sure they all got a good heads up from Jemma), and to sail under the radar. Faye's was to attach herself to Aaron once she knew he was popular and play the on/off romance game which is wrongly attributed to Aaron, when in fact it is all down to her "Don't speak to me ever again"/ "Why aren't you talking to me Aaron?" cr*p that cause all the problems.

Then we have the more blatant gameplayers like Anton, who cast himself as the master villain, and Harry the mischievous posh guy who took no sh*t from anyone. Aaron, a massive BB fan, approached it all a bit more clinically and has read the house well, being able to work out nominations etc and using his natural charm and intelligence to work people out and outwit his enemies in the house.`He has orchestrated getting certain HMs up for eviction and helping the public to rid the house of them.

Of course, he has p*ssed off people in the house else they wouldn't have put him up for eviction, and I admire that he hasn't crawl a*sed around the other HMs to avoid it. It must be baffling to the HMs why he is so popular! However, he has not tried to deceive the viewers by adopting a fake persona - he has just been himself, awkward, geeky, somewhat straitlaced around a bunch of people whose habits and conversation often border on the obscene and the obnoxious. He is basically a decent, likeable, often very funny guy whose morals and values obviously resonate with a fair number of people who have been glued to BB purely to watch HIM.

He is probably the most unique and charismatic BB HM ever, the most talked about (whether good or bad) and has contributed more to the show than any other HM.
Will he win? Well a lot of us think he deserves it more than anyone else left in the house, so no doubt we will do our best to ensure that he does. Regardless of whether he does win or not, he will definitely go down in BB history as one of the all time great HMs.