What was his problem with Aaron and Alex

[Jamsey]

He was slagging them off the whole way through the task telling them to get on with it and stop making a big deal (even though he didnt know what was going on).

Then he said (I thought as a joke) that he wanted Aaron to get covered in instrument (lol) and seeing them emerge from the diary room not drenched in paint he looked genuinly depressed.

[G1dds]

He was probably having withdrawal symptoms from not sh*tting about the house for a couple of days

[Gillian-73]

Lol! yeah he said i thought it'd be worse than that, he sounded genuinely disappointed they weren't covered from head to toe even though he'd kick off if they were cos he'd have less food! he doesn't like aaron it's as plain as the nose on my face.

[Visage]

Yesterday Pavarotti, today instrument..... Can it get any funnier...?

[Marmalite]

Possibly left his excrement in a few ciggie boxes for BB to use and was wounded when they came out ****-free and BB hadn't taken up his offer and used it on them?

[Jords]

Thinking about f00d

[Cherry Christmas]

He was hacked off they were having fun. It should have been him and his princess...:devil::joker:

[Kazanne]

He was slagging them off the whole way through the task telling them to get on with it and stop making a big deal (even though he didnt know what was going on).

Then he said (I thought as a joke) that he wanted Aaron to get covered in instrument (lol) and seeing them emerge from the diary room not drenched in paint he looked genuinly depressed.

He tried to say he wanted Aaron to get covered in excrement,but thick Jay had to be told the word by someone else and yes he seemed disappointed that Alex and aaron enjoyed their task

[ChristmasNeeve]

I bet he was pissed off that Alex and Aaron got 2 tasks but he only got one :idc:

[Holly Christmas]

He was quite aggressive, out of the blue, as he'd been fine with everyone then he just changed. He is trying to suppress his true nature for the last week, now he knows he is in the final and his allies have all gone, but the mask slipped well and truly. Leopards dont change their spots.

[GabbygalEvs]

i hope hes covered in instrument

wot a thicko that man is

[Jamsey]

How about this for hypocrisy;

After his task of using cling film to stop two blobs of paint from hitting him, he walks out without removing the cling film and imidietly tells everyone he can see about the giant exploding balloon full of paint that is covering the diary room.

Alex comes out with probably 50 times as much paint all across her chest and around her abdomen and Jay exclaims "Is that all? Thats nay big deal for the fuss yous were makin."

[BBDodge]

Someone else getting airtime.

Surprised he didn't rush off to make another message for Loo. Or if he did they couldn't be arsed to show it.

[Visage]

How about this for hypocrisy;

After his task of using cling film to stop two blobs of paint from hitting him, he walks out without removing the cling film and imidietly tells everyone he can see about the giant exploding balloon full of paint that is covering the diary room.

Alex comes out with probably 50 times as much paint all across her chest and around her abdomen and Jay exclaims "Is that all? Thats nay big deal for the fuss yous were makin."

Excellent point.

[erinp5]

He's a vindictive git.

[Vicky.]

Yeah his recent mr nice guy mask slipped a little there :laugh:

[The Human Santapede]

I bet he was pissed off that Alex and Aaron got 2 tasks but he only got one :idc:

That's what I put it down to.

[RodHull]

He was quite aggressive, out of the blue, as he'd been fine with everyone then he just changed. He is trying to suppress his true nature for the last week, now he knows he is in the final and his allies have all gone, but the mask slipped well and truly. Leopards dont change their spots.

Yeah he was, I was beginning to forgive his daliance with the pathetic wolf pack charade. Thought maybe hes just easily led, but that moment was malicious. Wasnt so much the sentiment but the way he said it.

"Id really love it if he got covered in human excrement just to see the look on his face"

(notice Faye laughing along with them too... again)

It was really out of nowhere, weirdly this has been Aarons most cheerful day in about a week, he has been like a postive ray of sunshine compared to the last few days and suddenly Jay just switched on him, he had a pop at him earlier on the pea soup task to, mocking him for having a 'semi' which didnt seem to be the case from what I saw. A cynic might think he wanted Aaron to be moody all the time....

[Rustic bauble]

...its all been a big act. Acting all nice to Aaron...he clearly does not like him but has used Aarons popularity to increase his by trying to be 'the good mate'...
Jay has nothing to offer....if he hadnt fancied someone he would not have gone the course....he is shallow and dull.

[Becker]

And he returns to type - jealous and tryin to stick the knife in zi can't wait to see him lose spectacularly come final night - cannot wait :-)

[InOne]

Waggot probably thinking about how much pizza he isn't gonna be stuffing in his fat mouth cos they were all failing :joker:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah he was, I was beginning to forgive his daliance with the pathetic wolf pack charade. Thought maybe hes just easily led, but that moment was malicious. Wasnt so much the sentiment but the way he said it.

"Id really love it if he got covered in human excrement just to see the look on his face"

(notice Faye laughing along with them too... again)

It was really out of nowhere, weirdly this has been Aarons most cheerful day in about a week, he has been like a postive ray of sunshine compared to the last few days and suddenly Jay just switched on him, he had a pop at him earlier on the pea soup task to, mocking him for having a 'semi' which didnt seem to be the case from what I saw. A cynic might think he wanted Aaron to be moody all the time....

Yeah, very interesting observation there. He doesn't seem to like when Aaron is happy at all. He looked annoyed that Faye and himself were getting on too

[Visage]

Waggot probably thinking about how much pizza he isn't gonna be stuffing in his fat mouth cos they were all failing :joker:

Ha ha! :D:D

[GabbygalEvs]

i never fell for the nicey nicey act since anton left he realised aaron was more popular and panicked so thought what can i do i know pretend his me best mate

[Jamsey]

Yeah, very interesting observation there. He doesn't seem to like when Aaron is happy at all. He looked annoyed that Faye and himself were getting on too

Oh yeah, Aaron and Faye are getting on really well, Jay gives them dirty looks the whole way through, aaron goes out for a smoke and Jay sticks the knife in.

To Faye

"Your relationship is very strange" (compared to his fart worshiping, armpit sniffing, poo fest)

"Yous dont seam to get along"

"He is so moody with you"

"I dont know how you put up with it"

"I would just get rid if I were you"

"I couldnt cope with him outside the house"

All in a few minutes.

[Lex]

i never fell for the nicey nicey act since anton left he realised aaron was more popular and panicked so thought what can i do i know pretend his me best mate

Yep!...i've no doubt that in the real world, ...Justin would rather smash Aaron's teeth out than speak nicely to him! :devil:

[lucyann]

Yes his nice guy image this week slipped a bit there.

[Pyramid*]

He was hacked off they were having fun. It should have been him and his princess...:devil::joker:

He tried to say he wanted Aaron to get covered in excrement,but thick Jay had to be told the word by someone else and yes he seemed disappointed that Alex and aaron enjoyed their task

I bet he was pissed off that Alex and Aaron got 2 tasks but he only got one :idc:

He was quite aggressive, out of the blue, as he'd been fine with everyone then he just changed. He is trying to suppress his true nature for the last week, now he knows he is in the final and his allies have all gone, but the mask slipped well and truly. Leopards dont change their spots.


Agree with all of these but especially Kate's.

[Pyramid*]

Oh yeah, Aaron and Faye are getting on really well, Jay gives them dirty looks the whole way through, aaron goes out for a smoke and Jay sticks the knife in.

To Faye

"Your relationship is very strange" (compared to his fart worshiping, armpit sniffing, poo fest)

"Yous dont seam to get along"

"He is so moody with you"

"I dont know how you put up with it"

"I would just get rid if I were you"

"I couldnt cope with him outside the house"

All in a few minutes.


I suspect Aaron's had endure far more of this type of thing than any of us have seen and apart from Jay's vile habits - will be the reason Aaron has never liked him over the course.

[exoticrosebud]

thought it was a stupid task anyway! not very imaginative.....i think aaron and alex were having a good time and she really made him laugh ......Jays comment about being covered in dog poo was not nice...probably bit jealous cus Lou would have thought that very romantic and he wasnt in on the 'pooing' bit lol...' And i dont like that cleaner woman either......she reminds me of the little brittain character when she talks....who me dear...noooooooooo dear.......

[Angus]

thought it was a stupid task anyway! not very imaginative.....i think aaron and alex were having a good time and she really made him laugh ......Jays comment about being covered in dog poo was not nice...probably bit jealous cus Lou would have thought that very romantic and he wasnt in on the 'pooing' bit lol...' And i dont like that cleaner woman either......she reminds me of the little brittain character when she talks....who me dear...noooooooooo dear.......

Anyone else notice her snidey comment directed to Aaron as she left, or am I the only one?

[HBB1508]

Jay is so jealous that Faaron are back together and getting air time and detracting from his fauxmance with Loo imo. Jay is a nasty piece of work I certainly wouldn't like to have him around me.

[chuff me dizzy]

He knows hes not going to win either of them so trying to put them down

[the-gaffer]

He truly is a dumbo, no wonder him and 'Loo' get on, they'd be lucky to get into double figures if they combined their IQ

[thesheriff443]

they have both caused a big stink this year!,

[In the Drunk Tank]

After reading this thread I was expecting his comments to be a lot worse than what they were, but I've just seen the episode and I think people are making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill tbh. Alex was basically screaming the whole way through the task which is probably why he thought there'd be more paint on them than there actually was

[Kazanne]

Anyone else notice her snidey comment directed to Aaron as she left, or am I the only one?

i heard it Angus,crafty mare:hugesmile:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Kim's a legend, made the show quite funny last night

[Pyramid*]

Jay is so jealous that Faaron are back together and getting air time and detracting from his fauxmance with Loo imo. Jay is a nasty piece of work I certainly wouldn't like to have him around me.

I agree - Jay's managed to try to rein in his hatred for Aaron since he realised that Aaron continued not only to be saved by the public, but came tops again.

His mask is slipping though as it's hotting up towards the final week. He's an idiot of a man - and is as jealous as hell of Aaron - and his intelligence. Loved when Aaron said the banal convos were just so uninteresting and Jay trying to rack his brains for something intelligent to discuss with Aaron !! :joker:

[Ellen]

After reading this thread I was expecting his comments to be a lot worse than what they were, but I've just seen the episode and I think people are making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill tbh. Alex was basically screaming the whole way through the task which is probably why he thought there'd be more paint on them than there actually was

Not a big fan of Jay's but totally agree with this post.
Plus Jay's comments to Faye about her & Aaron were because Jay cant understand how Faye can put up with Aaron's moods especially after Faye was complaining to Jay about Aaron.

[Pyramid*]

Not a big fan of Jay's but totally agree with this post.
Plus Jay's comments to Faye about her & Aaron were because Jay cant understand how Faye can put up with Aaron's moods especially after Faye was complaining to Jay about Aaron.

Because Jay isn't smart enough to click onto the fact that Faye is playing Aaron...... plus it suits Jay - as he can't abide Aaron, so any old excuse to fault the guy will do for Jay.

[Ellen]

Because Jay isn't smart enough to click onto the fact that Faye is playing Aaron...... plus it suits Jay - as he can't abide Aaron, so any old excuse to fault the guy will do for Jay.

Perhaps...
But neither Aaron or Jay like each other, Aaron is much more subtle in his comments to Jay.

[RodHull]

After reading this thread I was expecting his comments to be a lot worse than what they were, but I've just seen the episode and I think people are making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill tbh. Alex was basically screaming the whole way through the task which is probably why he thought there'd be more paint on them than there actually was

Yeah thats fair enough, I could understand it if he had said it with a smile on his face, or more importantly directed the comment at Alex. But he just mentioned Aaron, it was clearly cause Jay doesnt like Aaron and likes seeing him annoyed and upset. Plus it wasnt said with humour, it was said with venom imo.

Added to the fact he spent the whole episode last night trying to ruin Fayes mood and slag off Aaron. No I dont buy your reason, Jay doesnt like it when Aaron and Faye are happy. Same way Lou doesnt like it when Aaron and Faye are arguing and getting air time, ever noticed how she engineers some form of romantic clinch with Jay whenever this happens.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Yeah thats fair enough, I could understand it if he had said it with a smile on his face, or more importantly directed the comment at Alex. But he just mentioned Aaron, it was clearly cause Jay doesnt like Aaron and likes seeing him annoyed and upset. Plus it wasnt said with humour, it was said with venom imo.

Added to the fact he spent the whole episode last night trying to ruin Fayes mood and slag off Aaron. No I dont buy your reason, Jay doesnt like it when Aaron and Faye are happy. Same way Lou doesnt like it when Aaron and Faye are arguing and getting air time, ever noticed how she engineers some form of romantic clinch with Jay whenever this happens.

People seem to have short memories, it was only a couple of nights ago Jay tried to cheer up Aaron and tried to have a conversation that would interest him. The same night he also helped Faye out and gave her advice which she was grateful for, I think Jay just prefers having a good atmosphere in the house

[kisywisy]

People seem to have short memories, it was only a couple of nights ago Jay tried to cheer up Aaron and tried to have a conversation that would interest him. The same night he also helped Faye out and gave her advice which she was grateful for, I think Jay just prefers having a good atmosphere in the house

:thumbs:

[Jamsey]

People seem to have short memories, it was only a couple of nights ago Jay tried to cheer up Aaron and tried to have a conversation that would interest him. The same night he also helped Faye out and gave her advice which she was grateful for, I think Jay just prefers having a good atmosphere in the house

Jay wants Aaron to be moody so he can look the nice guy when trying to cheer him up, he knos Aaron will continue to sulk, annoying the public and other housemates.

When Jay talks to Faye about Aaron, she normally is grateful, this is because Jay assures her the none of it is her fault putting the fault purly on Aaron and critisizing him, so even though he is making her feel better herself, he is trying to put even more strain on the relationship.

You could tell yesturday just how annyoed he was when they were dancing and hugging openly getting annyoed about their relatioship to other housemates and taking every chance to drip more poison in Faye's ear.

He needs the public to see Faaron in a bad light so by contrast they fall for JayLo (not saying Jay is in a fauxmance, but I am saying that if Farron fails this will automatically increase JayLo's credibility.

[RodHull]

People seem to have short memories, it was only a couple of nights ago Jay tried to cheer up Aaron and tried to have a conversation that would interest him. The same night he also helped Faye out and gave her advice which she was grateful for, I think Jay just prefers having a good atmosphere in the house

That just feeds his desire to be seen as Mr good guy and the peacemaker of the house. He wasnt so nice when he got the power affect the house during the crypt task. Indeed had it not been for the fact that Aaron was popular him and Anton would have put both Faye and him up together in a heartbeat when they thought they were swapping places rather than just an extra nom.

Seems you also have a short memory. You dont go from that level of vitriol about someone (they hated Aaron) to liking him in 2 weeks. Where as by contrast Aaron has never hated Jay, he just finds his humour and views repulsive (which I do to) he didnt even slag him off during that crypt week. If the tables were turned Jay would have had a field day slagging off Aaron.

[In the Drunk Tank]

That just feeds his desire to be seen as Mr good guy and the peacemaker of the house. He wasnt so nice when he got the power affect the house during the crypt task. Indeed had it not been for the fact that Aaron was popular him and Anton would have put both Faye and him up together in a heartbeat when they thought they were swapping places rather than just an extra nom.

Seems you also have a short memory. You dont go from that level of vitriol about someone (they hated Aaron) to liking him in 2 weeks. Where as by contrast Aaron has never hated Jay, he just finds his humour and views repulsive (which I do to) he didnt even slag him off during that crypt week. If the tables were turned Jay would have had a field day slagging off Aaron.

Jay has never hated Aaron, he tried for weeks to make amends with him after their falling out and Aaron continuously blanked him and ignored him, it's only recently that Aaron's been able to accept their differences and they've started to get along well. I think in the crypt a lot of the stuff he said was influenced by Anton tbh, he was the one who was really trying to get Aaron out

I honestly think you, and Jamesy, are overcomplicating Jay, he's not trying to put on some kind of a false persona, he's not trying to deceive or manipulate anyone; I think he's as straightforward as they come and isn't always trying to play the game or act differently in order to get votes.

Also it was interesting how everyone goes on about Jay sucking up to Aaron and yet Faye and Tom were convinced that it was Aaron who was up Jay's ass :whistle:

[RodHull]

Jay has never hated Aaron, he tried for weeks to make amends with him after their falling out and Aaron continuously blanked him and ignored him, it's only recently that Aaron's been able to accept their differences and they've started to get along well. I think in the crypt a lot of the stuff he said was influenced by Anton tbh, he was the one who was really trying to get Aaron out

I honestly think you, and Jamesy, are overcomplicating Jay, he's not trying to put on some kind of a false persona, he's not trying to deceive or manipulate anyone; I think he's as straightforward as they come and isn't always trying to play the game or act differently in order to get votes.

Also it was interesting how everyone goes on about Jay sucking up to Aaron and yet Faye and Tom were convinced that it was Aaron who was up Jay's ass :whistle:

Jay has always disliked him. And vice versa. They are about as different as you can get man wise. Aarons all touchy feely new age bloke with feelings and Jay is a total caveman.

Jay only ever tried to be friends with Aaron after it became apparent he was popular. He has taken every opportunity in the whole series to kick Aaron when hes down, and then offer the olive branch (how magnanimous of him!) He knows damn well that when Aaron is moody it makes him look better, hence all the fake concern. Then when hes happy he does his best to wind him up or spread lies about him.

Lets not forget that Waggot is just as fame hungry as any of them, hes not the simple bloke hed like us to believe, most normal blokes from Newcastle wouldnt have got involved with the pathetic playground **** that was the wolfpack with those two total jokes Anton and Aden. He loves being number 1 top dog alpha male, thats why he liked those two idiots cause they idolised him.

Aaron has never danced to his tune and he hates it. Yes at times they are able to get on as the series has progressed, thats I think cause they have both just accepted the others faults and moved on. I dont think Jay is evil, but if he had the chance he would Nom and evict Aaron in a heartbeat. Same for Aaron, except he has never pretended otherwise imo.

Oh and Faye and Tom are not good case studies for opinions on Aaron. Tom takes just about every chance he gets to be spiteful about him and Faye isnt far behind. Thats a poor example coming from you tbh

[Jackie]

Cos hes a pig and wanted more for the food budget lol

[Suze]

Jay has always disliked him. And vice versa. They are about as different as you can get man wise. Aarons all touchy feely new age bloke with feelings and Jay is a total caveman.

Jay only ever tried to be friends with Aaron after it became apparent he was popular. He has taken every opportunity in the whole series to kick Aaron when hes down, and then offer the olive branch (how magnanimous of him!) He knows damn well that when Aaron is moody it makes him look better, hence all the fake concern. Then when hes happy he does his best to wind him up or spread lies about him.

Lets not forget that Waggot is just as fame hungry as any of them, hes not the simple bloke hed like us to believe, most normal blokes from Newcastle wouldnt have got involved with the pathetic playground **** that was the wolfpack with those two total jokes Anton and Aden. He loves being number 1 top dog alpha male, thats why he liked those two idiots cause they idolised him.

Aaron has never danced to his tune and he hates it. Yes at times they are able to get on as the series has progressed, thats I think cause they have both just accepted the others faults and moved on. I dont think Jay is evil, but if he had the chance he would Nom and evict Aaron in a heartbeat. Same for Aaron, except he has never pretended otherwise imo.

Oh and Faye and Tom are not good case studies for opinions on Aaron. Tom takes just about every chance he gets to be spiteful about him and Faye isnt far behind. Thats a poor example coming from you tbh
What a great post, RH :thumbs:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Jay has always disliked him. And vice versa. They are about as different as you can get man wise. Aarons all touchy feely new age bloke with feelings and Jay is a total caveman.

Jay only ever tried to be friends with Aaron after it became apparent he was popular. He has taken every opportunity in the whole series to kick Aaron when hes down, and then offer the olive branch (how magnanimous of him!) He knows damn well that when Aaron is moody it makes him look better, hence all the fake concern. Then when hes happy he does his best to wind him up or spread lies about him.

Lets not forget that Waggot is just as fame hungry as any of them, hes not the simple bloke hed like us to believe, most normal blokes from Newcastle wouldnt have got involved with the pathetic playground **** that was the wolfpack with those two total jokes Anton and Aden. He loves being number 1 top dog alpha male, thats why he liked those two idiots cause they idolised him.

Aaron has never danced to his tune and he hates it. Yes at times they are able to get on as the series has progressed, thats I think cause they have both just accepted the others faults and moved on. I dont think Jay is evil, but if he had the chance he would Nom and evict Aaron in a heartbeat. Same for Aaron, except he has never pretended otherwise imo.

Oh and Faye and Tom are not good case studies for opinions on Aaron. Tom takes just about every chance he gets to be spiteful about him and Faye isnt far behind. Thats a poor example coming from you tbh

Sure they're complete opposites but I quite like the friendships they formed, they do acknowledge the differences between them and like Jay said to Aaron, he knows he's not everyone's cup of tea, but they've been getting along well since Anton's departure.

Since it became apparent he was popular? What you mean in week 1? I'm so sick of this claim, people criticise Jay when they weren't getting along, and now they're criticising him when they are. Fact is, Aaron was being quite petty and uncourteous refusing to speak to Jay when he was trying to make amends, Harry never had the same problem, after the incident with the ketch up Harry had a rant and then they apologised and made up, yet Aaron didn't have the decency to do the same, it was never Jay that had the problem with Aaron, he's always struck me as the kind of guy happy to get along with anyone

True Jay does want fame but I think he has more straightforward motivations and ways of getting that fame. The Wolfpack is and always was just a jokey thing that anyone could have joined, it wasn't exclusive, and Aaron even said to Jay that he would take over if Jay was evicted. And tbh Faye and Tom have spent 2 months with Aaron we've only seen a few hours of him, they're probably in a better position to make a judgement than any of us are so it's a very valid example.

[RodHull]

Sure they're complete opposites but I quite like the friendships they formed, they do acknowledge the differences between them and like Jay said to Aaron, he knows he's not everyone's cup of tea, but they've been getting along well since Anton's departure.

Since it became apparent he was popular? What you mean in week 1? I'm so sick of this claim, people criticise Jay when they weren't getting along, and now they're criticising him when they are. Fact is, Aaron was being quite petty and uncourteous refusing to speak to Jay when he was trying to make amends, Harry never had the same problem, after the incident with the ketch up Harry had a rant and then they apologised and made up, yet Aaron didn't have the decency to do the same, it was never Jay that had the problem with Aaron, he's always struck me as the kind of guy happy to get along with anyone

True Jay does want fame but I think he has more straightforward motivations and ways of getting that fame. The Wolfpack is and always was just a jokey thing that anyone could have joined, it wasn't exclusive, and Aaron even said to Jay that he would take over if Jay was evicted. And tbh Faye and Tom have spent 2 months with Aaron we've only seen a few hours of him, they're probably in a better position to make a judgement than any of us are so it's a very valid example.

The difference in your example with Harry when compared to Aaron is that Aaron has shown time and again he wont bend his principles on certain subjects. If people wrong him they get excommunicated - unlike say Harry he is quite happy to have nobody talk to him, he doesnt like most of them that much anyway. Jay doesnt get along cause he a good bloke, he gets along for the sake of the show, for noms, for public support. Do you honestly believe in the outside world Jay wouldnt have punched Aarons lights out by now? He more or less admitted as much already.

He holds back cause hes scared of public and HM reaction. Aaron doesnt give two hoots what people think of him most of the time. Why should he pretend to get along with someone who he clearly has nothing in common with? The only reason they chat now is cause Jay (amazingly) is probably the only voice who speaks sense left in there. As nice as Alex is shes very young, Faye is always going off on one, Louise is about as interesting as dishwater and Tom is a spiteful little troll. Aarons not exactly spoilt for choice in the chatting stakes.

And Tom is about the last person Id ask for an opinion on Aaron, hes horrid, has been ever since Aaron spurned him, amazed you dont see that.

[Jamsey]

Ivve gone all anti-Jay these last two days, wich is honestly a great shame, I was really begining to seriously respect him to the point of almost supporting him (Behind Aaron and mabye Alex) but the snide comments behind Aarons back have really thrown me off.

I really hope he was having a bad day and todays highlights show him in a good light again.

[In the Drunk Tank]

The difference in your example with Harry when compared to Aaron is that Aaron has shown time and again he wont bend his principles on certain subjects. If people wrong him they get excommunicated - unlike say Harry he is quite happy to have nobody talk to him, he doesnt like most of them that much anyway. Jay doesnt get along cause he a good bloke, he gets along for the sake of the show, for noms, for public support. Do you honestly believe in the outside world Jay wouldnt have punched Aarons lights out by now? He more or less admitted as much already.

He holds back cause hes scared of public and HM reaction. Aaron doesnt give two hoots what people think of him most of the time. Why should he pretend to get along with someone who he clearly has nothing in common with? The only reason they chat now is cause Jay (amazingly) is probably the only voice who speaks sense left in there. As nice as Alex is shes very young, Faye is always going off on one, Louise is about as interesting as dishwater and Tom is a spiteful little troll. Aarons not exactly spoilt for choice in the chatting stakes.

And Tom is about the last person Id ask for an opinion on Aaron, hes horrid, has been ever since Aaron spurned him, amazed you dont see that.

Perhaps he is just sticking to his principles, but I think he's being quite petty in doing so. Sure if they were outside the house in the real world it'd be fine to just lose contact with someone if you didn't like them but when you're actually living with people 24/7 for weeks you should at least make an effort to get along imo, Jay was after all, he should have returned the favour. I can't really speak for what Jay would do in the outside world, the only time he's got angry with Aaron really has come as a consequence of the food situation, a situation which wouldn't arise between them outside of the house. I think he's actually controlled his anger quite well considering the environment they're living in, anger would be a lot easier to deal with outside of the house so no I don't really think he would have punched his lights out but I can't really say.

You're right Aaron isn't spoiled for choice, but neither is Jay; Aden's gone, Anton's gone, Mark's gone and as much as he might like Louise I think he'd also like some male company so that may well be why the two have started to get on better recently. I don't think it has much to do with his popularity, they've always know that Aaron is popular and it didn't stop him and Jay having their fall-outs, and Jay will also have heard all the boos for Anton but stayed friends with him. I just don't agree that he is as influenced by the outside world as you seem to think.

And sure Tom is a horrible person, but he's bitched about Jay a few times before and isn't really great friends with him, and Faye obviously likes Aaron, so I don't see why they'd be particularly inclined to lie about Aaron being up Jay's ass when really the opposite was true

[RodHull]

Faye obviously likes Aaron, so I don't see why they'd be particularly inclined to lie about Aaron being up Jay's ass when really the opposite was true

Ive kind of lost track of what we were originally debating, but you make some good points even though I dont agree.

But this part mate you are flogging a very dead horse... Faye has consistently lied about Aaron and twisted his words to other HMs to make him look bad, she does it all the time, how you can possibly say otherwise is frankly mind boggling. In fact after Anton, Tom and Jem she has probably gossipped about him and made him appear bad more than anyone.

I think if we are being 100% fair they are both 'up each others arses'

Jay knows aarons popular, Aaron knows Jay always get crowd support. They kind of have an unspoken truce going now if you want my honest appraisal. The competition element of voting is gone now, its just about riding it out to the end.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Ive kind of lost track of what we were originally debating, but you make some good points even though I dont agree.

But this part mate you are flogging a very dead horse... Faye has consistently lied about Aaron and twisted his words to other HMs to make him look bad, she does it all the time, how you can possibly say otherwise is frankly mind boggling. In fact after Anton, Tom and Jem she has probably gossipped about him and made him appear bad more than anyone.

I think if we are being 100% fair they are both 'up each others arses'

Jay knows aarons popular, Aaron knows Jay always get crowd support. They kind of have an unspoken truce going now if you want my honest appraisal. The competition element of voting is gone now, its just about riding it out to the end.

So have I tbh :laugh: and yeah ok I see your point about Faye, just thought it was interesting to note the contrast between the way they apparently were seeing it and the way a lot of people here have seen it, but it's probably true that they are both up each others arse to a certain extent

[ibkaz]

He was hacked off they were having fun. It should have been him and his princess...:devil::joker:

This is spot on.

I haven't been on tibbs a couple days, and after watching last nights show I thought it was full of digs at Aaron from most HM even Faye doing her bit. Aarons moods over last few days did my box in, and then when he shows he can have fun HM seemed even more against him.