Your all being taken for MUGS

[elliebrew]

The paranoia online has been stratospheric this year


'they're panicking that Aaron might win'
'editing him badly'
'they're desperate to get him out'

SERIOUSLY GUYS

why in earth would they be panicking if Aaron won?!

What do they gain by him losing! What do they lose by him winning?!

Think about it logically before letting your mouth shoot off with this crap!

There's no sensible, intelligent and logical reason that they would be wanting a certain housemate out! To even comprehend it is sily!

Fact is if he wasn't doing all this negative **** they wouldn't show it! The majority of his personality is right there on screen! That's all they have to show!

Fact is he's creating a lot of revenue for the channel and keeping mugs voting in there thousands coz they're all convinced they're Beating the system by backing him

They're not arsed who wins either way so long as your spending your money lol

[fruit_cake]

I'll still vote for him to win, Mug or otherwise

[BBfan6418]

The paranoia online has been stratospheric this year


'they're panicking that Aaron might win'
'editing him badly'
'they're desperate to get him out'

SERIOUSLY GUYS

why in earth would they be panicking if Aaron won?!

What do they gain by him losing! What do they lose by him winning?!

Think about it logically before letting your mouth shoot off with this crap!

There's no sensible, intelligent and logical reason that they would be wanting a certain housemate out! To even comprehend it is sily!

Fact is if he wasn't doing all this negative **** they wouldn't show it! The majority of his personality is right there on screen! That's all they have to show!

Fact is he's creating a lot of revenue for the channel and keeping mugs voting in there thousands coz they're all convinced they're Beating the system by backing him

They're not arsed who wins either way so long as your spending your money lol


You are correct. They have all their bases covered to bring in max revenue. They have Alex, Tom and Lou to bring in the casual voters. Then they have Jay and Aaron with massive fan bases that will vote even more as they get a perceived negative edit.

[joeysteele]

BB does have favourites they want to try to guide to win though and this year with no live feed,they have had a feast of opportunity as to the editing.

Covering up some bad actions while presenting others weaknesses non stop.I even can believe Rebeckah was badly edited too, I have agreed more with her after she was evicted than from what we saw of her in the editing.

BB wanted a John James or Josie win last year and got it,I really believe they would like an Alex or Jay win this year.

Some things, like Fayes tantrums and crying, has been highlighted show after show,as has Aaron's moods too, all at the expense of hiding others more boring traits.

Why BB would want a praticular housemate/s to win is a question I cannot answer but it's clear to me that they likely do their best to 'guide' a win for one they want.
BB will need to answer that question why they do, although they would say they are impartial but then would cover up an important event such as the freezer incident.

That leaves a lot of questions begging answers from BB.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Aaron gon win

[elliebrew]

BB does have favourites they want to try to guide to win though and this year with no live feed,they have had a feast of opportunity as to the editing.

Covering up some bad actions while presenting others weaknesses non stop.I even can believe Rebeckah was badly edited too, I have agreed more with her after she was evicted than from what we saw of her in the editing.

BB wanted a John James or Josie win last year and got it,I really believe they would like an Alex or Jay win this year.

Some things, like Fayes tantrums and crying, has been highlighted show after show,as has Aaron's moods too, all at the expense of hiding others more boring traits.

Why BB would want a praticular housemate/s to win is a question I cannot answer but it's clear to me that they likely do their best to 'guide' a win for one they want.
BB will need to answer that question why they do, although they would say they are impartial but then would cover up an important event such as the freezer incident.

That leaves a lot of questions begging answers from BB.

WHY would they want a certain housemate to win? What do they gain from having a set winner?! Absolutley nothing! It's so silly

[Kazanne]

WHY would they want a certain housemate to win? What do they gain from having a set winner?! Absolutley nothing! It's so silly

Some are more marketable than others

[Visage]

So let me get this right, I want Aaron to win so therefore I'm a mug ?

But if I change my favourite after 8 weeks to someone like Alex or Jay I'm no longer a mug?

[elliebrew]

Covering up freezer gate was nothing to do with protecting jay! But more to Do with protecting themselves from of on and environmental health!

Fact is

Both Faye and especially Aaron have had tantrum after tantrum after tantrum!

Of course they're gonna show it

Alex Louise and jay have never had a tantrum so obv they can't show it

Aaron's personality is primarily a negative one therefore everything he does in the highlights comes across as negative!

None of the others get highlights like that because they're not negative people! It's pretty self explanatory!

[joeysteele]

WHY would they want a certain housemate to win? What do they gain from having a set winner?! Absolutley nothing! It's so silly

I agree it's silly, it's not just silly it's wrong too but they do, we got Josie and John James thrown at us last year even to the point where for a large amount of time all we saw was a white duvet with then under it. No other footage just them.

Likely what happens is the BB team develop favourites as we do and so 'guide' better footage and hopefully gain votes for them.They cannot make a winner obviously but they can do their best to 'guide' a win for a housemate and even more so this year with 100% full control over footage shown.

[elliebrew]

Some are more marketable than others

Aaron is a beautiful looking man! Surely he's more marketable than bag of spanners Alex?!

Argument void

[Cherry Christmas]

Some are more marketable than others

Seems poor old Ellie is so busy typing that she missed this very valid point..:devil:

[elliebrew]

Seems poor old Ellie is so busy typing that she missed this very valid point..:devil:

Seems poor old cherieB was too busy trying to be clever and patronising she missed my response :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[MrWong]

Aaron is a beautiful looking man! Surely he's more marketable than bag of spanners Alex?!

Argument void

You think Aaron is Daily Star, Ok, soft porn material?

Alex is far better suited to that trashy market, as is the beautiful bore and the beetroot brute.

All 3 can be mugged off and paid a pittance as all 3 are desperate fame *****s.

[Cherry Christmas]

Seems poor old cherieB was too busy trying to be clever and patronising she missed my response :rolleyes::rolleyes:

:joker: patronising, I think you got in there first dear.

[elliebrew]

And what is Aaron doing on big brother if not to be famous and rich! Seriously

[MrWong]

And what is Aaron doing on big brother if not to be famous and rich! Seriously

Not been watching huh? Figures.

Aaron's a massive BB fan.

Can you name anything Aaron's done in the media?

[Incensed]

Alex Louise and jay have never had a tantrum so obv they can't show it





How do you know they haven't? They could have but they just haven't shown it.

[Jake.]

I have to kind of agree. They know that thousands vote for Aaron and therefore are making a great amount of money. If they didn't show Aaron bitching in the diary room, what would they show? Him sleeping or talking about the weather? The fact is is that because there is no live feed, noone knows how ANY housemates are fully acting in there. Alex could be a right bitch for all we know ( but she most likely would have been nominated) and therefore we need to go with what we are shown

[Cherry Christmas]

How do you know they haven't? They could have but they just haven't shown it.

Its okay to have a favourite Elliebrew, it doesnt make anyone a MUG..:conf:

[Mumbles]

Aaron's personality is primarily a negative one therefore everything he does in the highlights comes across as negative!


Your logic is flawed - if BB only show Aaron's negative side then you'll have the perception he has a negative personality. If they showed balanced footage then you'd perceive a more balanced personality. You're putting the cart before the horse with your assertions.

[Marmalite]

WHY would they want a certain housemate to win? What do they gain from having a set winner?! Absolutley nothing! It's so silly


They would gain everything - of course they would as it all depends how fame hungry the winner is.

Both Alex and Jay have been on tv shows before and have already said they wanted to get into tv - they're fame hungry and clearly don't mind making complete twonks out of themselves to gain it. If they can control it so that one of them wins then Channel 5 will have a cheap z-celeb at their beck and call.

Someone like Aaron, Faye or Rebeckah were and are too dominant for them and would be able to say no and keep their dignity so C5 don't want them and will try to skew the edit accordingly - Yes Aaron wants the BB winner title but he's not fame hungry, he just wants to win BB for the shear love of the programme.

Jay and Alex are too hungry for fame and will do anything for it - even if that means making a complete twat out of themselves inside and outside the house!

Proof =

Alex on snog, marry & avoid (desperate) + her youTube video says she wants to be a reality star and hav a career in tv like Katy Price and is now on BB acting completely different to how she's been in the real world.

Jay = on the Katry Price modelling show (desperate!) and now on BB, so clearly the man wants fame big time and will do anything to get it.

[elliebrew]

I have to kind of agree. They know that thousands vote for Aaron and therefore are making a great amount of money. If they didn't show Aaron bitching in the diary room, what would they show? Him sleeping or talking about the weather? The fact is is that because there is no live feed, noone knows how ANY housemates are fully acting in there. Alex could be a right bitch for all we know ( but she most likely would have been nominated) and therefore we need to go with what we are shown

And what other house mates tell us! Everyone loves Alex
In thwre

[MrWong]

They would gain everything - of course they would as it all depends how fame hungry the winner is.

Both Alex and Jay have been on tv shows before and have already said they wanted to get into tv - they're fame hungry and clearly don't mind making complete twonks out of themselves to gain it. If they can control it so that one of them wins then Channel 5 will have a cheap z-celeb at their beck and call.

Someone like Aaron, Faye or Rebeckah were and are too dominant for them and would be able to say no and keep their dignity so C5 don't want them and will try to skew the edit accordingly - Yes Aaron wants the BB winner title but he's not fame hungry, he just wants to win BB for the shear love of the programme.

Jay and Alex are too hungry for fame and will do anything for it - even if that means making a complete twat out of themselves inside and outside the house!

Proof =

Alex on snog, marry & avoid (desperate) + her youTube video says she wants to be a reality star and hav a career in tv like Katy Price and is now on BB acting completely different to how she's been in the real world.

Jay = on the Katry Price modelling show (desperate!) and now on BB, so clearly the man wants fame big time and will do anything to get it.

Don't forget Lou, she's also a fame *****, singing, glamour modelling, acting..

Jay is also a Geordie Shore reject.

[Gillian-73]

Aaron is a beautiful looking man! Surely he's more marketable than bag of spanners Alex?!

Argument void

Once aaron is out and sees the obvious blatant bias there is a big chance he won't toe the party line but alex would regardless of her edits.

[Jamsey]

I use mugs to hold hot beverages.

Mugs are good.

[Gillian-73]

I use mugs to hold hot beverages.

Mugs are good.

:cheer:

[Kazanne]

Covering up freezer gate was nothing to do with protecting jay! But more to Do with protecting themselves from of on and environmental health!

Fact is

Both Faye and especially Aaron have had tantrum after tantrum after tantrum!

Of course they're gonna show it

Alex Louise and jay have never had a tantrum so obv they can't show it

Aaron's personality is primarily a negative one therefore everything he does in the highlights comes across as negative!

None of the others get highlights like that because they're not negative people! It's pretty self explanatory!

Jay has had major tantrums too,one lasting two days,did that get shown,NO,so i dont think it's US that's mugs!

[Cherry Christmas]

And what other house mates tell us! Everyone loves Alex
In thwre

Everyone might love the Alex that is in the house, ditzy, pink, clumsy, but she is playing a game ....ie avoided getting involved in Toms topless modelling convo... and then pretending she didnt know what she was doing with her hands in relation to the division of the 50K between the 5 HMs...come on now.. I think Aaron and Alex have a great relationship but she is a PLAYER make no mistake.

[Gillian-73]

Jay has had major tantrums too,one lasting two days,did that get shown,NO,so i dont think it's US that's mugs!

Exactly

[Vicky.]

Fact is if he wasn't doing all this negative **** they wouldn't show it! The majority of his personality is right there on screen! That's all they have to show!


Copy n paste job from a similar thread

Negative footage is fair enough. but its the way they have gone out of their way to twist things into always being Aaron in the wrong.

The stranded task is the prime example of this. They left the task room because of 2 things, one being Anton had AGREED(not shown on the HLs) to let Aaron out as he needed painkillers//then went back on his word just to spite Aaron/Faye, and the second being jem was going to walk out anyway because BB had upset her by revealing her real age(also not shown). After this, we had the conversation in the kitchen between Aaron and Jay...where Aaron said(on the FB clip) 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore because of my leg'...which on the HLs, became 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore'. Purposely cutting him off mid sentence. There is no reason at all to go to such lengths with the editing just to screw the whole story totally.


Also, thats not ALL they have to show tbh. If you check the FB vids against what we regularly see(or saw, it seems a bit fairer now) on the HLs...Aaron is like a totally different person ;)

[Bluerang1]

You keep making good arguments that'll get shot down. Let's give it a rest until the show ends :(

[dizzy bint]

Whilst I wouldn't call the audience mugs I do agree with the basic assertion in the OP.

The audience have seen enough good stuff of Aaron to really like him. The negative stuff laid on then with a trowel increases the audiences' level of indignation and makes them much more likely to vote for their done down hero. It's simple psychology.

[Jords]

Elliebrew you legend :joker:

Its been absolute nutty on here this series.

[DiavD]

At the very beginning he made the mistake of being honest and saying he sees the show as a game show, which its is, people get all riled up and they then see any thing he does as fake, it's also the same with the prize money, every one of them cant say a word about it without the comments, Its all they care about.

People are too precious with this view and it always stops a lot of housemates from just being their self's, in all the year's of Big Brother as they are worried it will look bad.

Aaron has shown us himself warts and all, but that one statement has been picked up on, the producers and Bbbots have heavily put a spin on it, editing and showing things to look a certain way, easily done by showing part's conversations and the like, to fit the way they want things to look.

They would have been less able to get away with at least some of this, if we would have had live feed.

They could hide things by not showing them ie: some of Jay's vile things, but the more we see, the more we make our own mind up and that does not fit with what they want on Channel 5's first BigBrother they want full control.

In doing this they have made BigBrother a farce and pantomime ( with Aaron the main villain ) instead of the show we know and love

[twistedsista]

Amazes me that regardless of the bad editing, Aaron is still immensely popular. Truth will out - and cone Friday, I hope to see Aaron claim his rightful place as winner of BB12!

[Parmy]

Seems poor old cherieB was too busy trying to be clever and patronising she missed my response :rolleyes::rolleyes:

LOLLAGE AT THE OWNAGE.:joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I know all these conspiracy theories are a load of wank.

Im gonna go back into the BB1,2,3 forums and see if all this bull**** was about then.

Stop being so ****ing paranoid. Just because you think your favourite isnt getting a good edit doesnt mean its because BB wants them out but because it fits in with the story/current goings on in the house.

[DiavD]

I've watched every BB and its always happened to an extent, but with no live feed they have run riot this time.

Only a few of my fav's have won over the year's, this time it's more of a panto so not arsed.

I love BB and am sad channel 5 are ruining it grrrrr

Really hoping they get it back to what it should be next year, if there is 1

[Knitting Nana]

Elliebrew, your opening post makes far too much sense for his supporters to take onboard.

[the truth]

I agree its hilarious the paranoid aaron fans blaming the editors. hes behaved like a boring spiteful selfish tedious petulant time most of the time. yet when the same is done to him he doesnt like it. the way he walked out on everyone when the letters were being read out (after hed had his of course) just showed he had no interest in other people and couldnt care less about ruining this huge moment for them and of course the overal experience

as for fame hungry. theyre all fame hungry. why else would anyone volunteer to go on 24/7 tv for 10 weeks or so? its money its fame and its the challenge. trouble is now everyone has seen the show and most get prepared and coached for it. alex looks coached to be the usual coached winner. not too pretty so wont alienate the womens vote, pretty to be dumb barbie so win over the chav vote, dont offer any opnion on anything ever so dont offend.....etc i think louise jay and tom and faye are the ONLy ones who have been themselves and worn their hearts on their sleeves. faye ruined her chances by letting uber bore aaron manipulate her. jemma also hurt fayes chances as she was the most humourless BB guest in history. louise or tom to win jay 3rd

[psychtracker]

Someone like Aaron, Faye or Rebeckah were and are too dominant for them and would be able to say no and keep their dignity so C5 don't want them and will try to skew the edit accordingly - Yes Aaron wants the BB winner title but he's not fame hungry, he just wants to win BB for the shear love of the programme.

I'm sorry, but i wouldn't use "keep their dignity" and Rebeckah in the same sentence, that desperate girl would go to an opening of a envelope if it meant getting her mug on telly!

I tend to agree with OP, but ultimately without live feed i find it impossible to say whether Aaron's has had a good or bad edit. One thing for sure, i'd say he's definitely provided the most footage this year, and for that reason alone i think he deserves the win. If anything i suspect C5 would be trying to show him in as good a light as possible this week, for voting revenue. I'd be pretty sure now that Alex is miles ahead anyways, so showing him in a negative light will only cost them money, and will unlikely affect the result of who wins.

[MARTYM8]

Just an observation to the OP but C5 are desperate to make money out of this - and so want a winner they can sell to their target daily star/OK mag audience.

Aaron won't get his baps out for the Star or Nuts - Alex will.

Aaron won't parade his life over OK mag - Jay and Lou will.

There is a good reason why they don't want Aaron to win - as they won't be able to cash in on him after the show as he has a job and a kid to go back to. Lou, Alex and Jay will be much more compliant - and appeal to the wider interests of the Desmond empire.

I don't mind bias and unfair editing - but C5/BOTS are so bad at it that you know you are being conned and spun nonsense. They shouldn't employ so many 20 year olds who don't know how to do it without it seeming forced.

[psychtracker]

I don't understand this theory, or how the winner of BB will become a "cash cow" for C5? ..or how it would vary greatly from one HM to another being the winner. Plus..there's not much media interest in BB nowadays. I'm sorry, but it sounds like a clutching at straws justification as to why they might want a bad edit. I'm very dubious of this motive.

[Incensed]

I don't understand this theory, or how the winner of BB will become a "cash cow" for C5? ..or how it would vary greatly from one HM to another being the winner. Plus..there's not much media interest in BB nowadays. I'm sorry, but it sounds like a clutching at straws justification as to why they might want a bad edit. I'm very dubious of this motive.

Because imo, Richard Desmond will make more money from the likes of Jay and Louise than he ever will from from the likes of Aaron. Jay and Louise seem the type to me who would sell their soul for a quick buck and as much as I'm not keen on Aaron I do think he has principles that wouldn't allow him to do that.

[psychtracker]

Because imo, Richard Desmond will make more money from the likes of Jay and Louise than he ever will from from the likes of Aaron. Jay and Louise seem the type to me who would sell their soul for a quick buck and as much as I'm not keen on Aaron I do think he has principles that wouldn't allow him to do that.

I reckon that's a load of baloney. C5 paid £40 Million for the series. And you reckon they intentionally badly edited Aaron for 2 months to lose, just so they can squeeze some extra coins out of Jay & Louise once the series is over, to take a cut for selling their story in some cheapo tabloid deal. ?? :conf:

Just doesn't make sense to me.

[Incensed]

I reckon that's a load of baloney. C5 paid £40 Million for the series. And you reckon they intentionally badly edited Aaron for 2 months to lose, just so they can squeeze some extra coins out of Jay & Louise once the series is over, to take a cut for selling their story in some cheapo tabloid deal. ?? :conf:

Just doesn't make sense to me.

Don't forget, Desmond owns Television X and Red Hot TV adult channels. I can see Louise agreeing to make films for these channels and possibly Jay too. The revenue Desmond could make from these would be a lot more than selling a few newspapers.

I'm not saying this is definitely the case, just throwing a possible reason into the mix for C5 pushing certain HM's.

[Bojangles]

Channel 5 doesn't care who wins,once they have their money in the coffers that's it.It's up to the managers of the contestants to promote them not channel 5.

[psychtracker]

I actually think of the remaining HMs..Aaron has the most potential in the media as a TV presenter, reporter or the like..

[Incensed]

I actually think of the remaining HMs..Aaron has the most potential in the media as a TV presenter, reporter or the like..

You could be right, time will tell I suppose.