What are your thoughts on Jay and Louise's gifts to Tom and Alex?

[headaball]

Ok, so they bought Tom and Alex a watch and shoes from the prize money at a cost of £1000. Do you think it is a genuine gesture or an attempt to win votes?

Poll to follow.

[fingers]

Cost of 2x£500!!

[headaball]

Cost of 2x£500!!

It gets worse.

Edited.

[Vicky.]

Considering they regretted it immediately...and made a point of trying to make aaron look bad for not joining with them...and louises 'when you give you get something back' or whatever it was that she said...

I would feel a bit silly if I thought it was genuine.

[Samuel.]

Bit of both.

MTVN made a good post in another thread in defense of Louise and Jay, but I do think without it being the final week they wouldn't have been quite as generous.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Genuine; like I said in the other thread they suddenly have 10k in their pocket which they didn't expect to have, I think they just thought why not spend a bit of it on making the birthday more enjoyable. I think the fact that they showed doubt afterwards shows that it was genuine otherwise why would they express such thoughts if they purely did it to be seen in a good light? Their perception of money & it's value in there must be strange because they're basically spending money they don't have and I think they just did on a spur of the moment and then it only really sank in later

[Kazelle]

Ok, so they bought Tom and Alex a watch and shoes from the prize money at a cost of £1000. Do you think it is a genuine gesture or an attempt to win votes?

Poll to follow.

I would have thought more of them if they'd offered to club together and give Faye something, after all they were all so close they reckoned and poor Faye missed out on getting anything because their plan didn't work, so they say.

[Ammi]

Genuine; like I said in the other thread they suddenly have 10k in their pocket which they didn't expect to have, I think they just thought why not spend a bit of it on making the birthday more enjoyable. I think the fact that they showed doubt afterwards shows that it was genuine otherwise why would they express such thoughts if they purely did it to be seen in a good light? Their perception of money & it's value in there must be strange because they're basically spending money they don't have and I think they just did on a spur of the moment and then it only really sank in later

I haven't watched the clip but as they seemed to have realised afterwards they'd been a bit too impulsive, I would say it could be genuine

[Ammi]

I would have thought more of them if they'd offered to club together and give Faye something, after all they were all so close they reckoned and poor Faye missed out on getting anything because their plan didn't work, so they say.

It seems it was an impulsive gesture because it was Tom and Alex's birthday..I don't think much thought went into it..until afterward maybe..

[MrWong]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

If i ask a mate to chip in for another mates present and he says no, i don't then go and slag him off for not chipping in.

I also don't instantly regret it and expect a nosh in return or to be able to borrow something of theirs.

[In the Drunk Tank]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

If i ask a mate to chip in for another mates present and he says no, i don't then go and slag him off for not chipping in.

I also don't instantly regret it and expect a nosh in return or to be able to borrow something of theirs.

Would you if he said "yes" and then decided not to at the last minute?

[Bojangles]

Well Aaron only got £990,when Alex got30k after all.I don't blame him at all,Jay and Lou should have not been so impulsive.

[Scotty07]

If it was a tenner or something, then I might've said genuine. Then again, Shady Louise was involved so I probably still would've said to gain votes.

[MrWong]

Would you if he said "yes" and then decided not to at the last minute?

No. It happens.

Also, Louise says she knew Aaron wouldn't join in, so why ask him then, if not to make him look bad and slag him off in the diary room?

[Suze]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

If i ask a mate to chip in for another mates present and he says no, i don't then go and slag him off for not chipping in.

I also don't instantly regret it and expect a nosh in return or to be able to borrow something of theirs.

This ^

[Tregard]

I don't like them being able to spend money they technically haven't got yet, even still, £1000 is a bit much, especially considering Alex has just recieved 30k for no good reason.

[karezza]

It is an obnoxious attempt to win votes. Oh we are so lovely unlike nasty Aaron

Aaron to win

[Marmalite]

No. It happens.

Also, Louise says she knew Aaron wouldn't join in, so why ask him then, if not to make him look bad and slag him off in the diary room?


I wouldn't worry about her making Aaron out to look bad as she's made herself look even worse. Right after coming out of the diary room she was moaning about how she's bought Alex such an expensive b/day present yet Alex won't share anything with her and how she doesn't even have a pair of shoes.

I also think that both she and Jay think they're going to get so many photo and magazine opps when they get out (he slipped up by saying she'll make their money back quickly when she gets out with all the photo shoots she'll be offered) that they'll make the money up quickly..... unfortunately, that now makes me think even more that they've gone into a relationship not just because of "love" but because of the $$$$ attached to it when they get out.

The Josie and John Jame's reality show was bad enough but I think I'll commit suicide if I have to watch or hear about the Jayloo toilet trash reality show for the next 12 months! :nono:

[In the Drunk Tank]

It is an obnoxious attempt to win votes. Oh we are so lovely unlike nasty Aaron

Aaron to win

Aaron had wanted to do it as well, did he only want to win votes originally as well :conf:

[Suze]

Twitter Quote:

BBUKLive: 2049: Louise and Jay are miffed at Aaron for being in a strop and telling Jay that they bought Alex & Tom presents for the cameras #bbuklive
06-11-2011 09:50 PM


twitter.com/bbuklive

[Suze]

Aaron had wanted to do it as well, did he only want to win votes originally as well :conf:

Maybe Aaron was willing to put a reasonable amount in like say a tenner not about £300 odd apiece? And quite rightly backed out, realising that JayLou wanted to look good for votes. Aaron doesn't need to use low tactics for votes.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Twitter Quote:

BBUKLive: 2049: Louise and Jay are miffed at Aaron for being in a strop and telling Jay that they bought Alex & Tom presents for the cameras #bbuklive
06-11-2011 09:50 PM


twitter.com/bbuklive

Cue people praising how perceptive Aaron is :rolleyes:

[InOne]

Surely these normal salt of the earth working class people wouldn't have the money to go round splashing gifts on people they barely know ;)

[Suze]

Cue people praising how perceptive Aaron is :rolleyes:

That's because he is :) As are many of his fans :)

[MrWong]

Twitter Quote:

BBUKLive: 2049: Louise and Jay are miffed at Aaron for being in a strop and telling Jay that they bought Alex & Tom presents for the cameras #bbuklive
06-11-2011 09:50 PM


twitter.com/bbuklive

Good for Aaron. Saying what most are thinking.

Aaron to win!! :elephant::elephant::elephant:

[showtime77]

I didn't think I could like Aaron much more than I already did but I do! That guy is not a follower & I truly respect it.

[Scotty07]

I wouldn't worry about her making Aaron out to look bad as she's made herself look even worse. Right after coming out of the diary room she was moaning about how she's bought Alex such an expensive b/day present yet Alex won't share anything with her and how she doesn't even have a pair of shoes.I also think that both she and Jay think they're going to get so many photo and magazine opps when they get out (he slipped up by saying she'll make their money back quickly when she gets out with all the photo shoots she'll be offered) that they'll make the money up quickly..... unfortunately, that now makes me think even more that they've gone into a relationship not just because of "love" but because of the $$$$ attached to it when they get out.

The Josie and John Jame's reality show was bad enough but I think I'll commit suicide if I have to watch or hear about the Jayloo toilet trash reality show for the next 12 months! :nono:

I hope they show this on the main show.

[Suze]

I didn't thin kI could like Aaron much more than I already did but I do! That guy is not a follower & I truly respect it.

No, if anything his thoughts on stuff could if anything damage his popularity, and yet he is not prepared to follow the pack, or should that be Wolfpak :D ;) he is prepared to take that risk. It could be why BBs BOTS don't like him, as he won't/doesn't conform to what they want or expect of BB finalists/winners.

[Suze]

I hope they show this on the main show.

You know they won't though.

[G1dds]

"What are your thoughts on Jay and Louise's gifts to Tom and Alex?"

My answer: ridiculous! Who does that?! Smacks of voting desperation to me

[luminoussun]

It seems like a blatant ass kiss manouver.
I am a bit sick of all the alex ass kissing lately.
They think the sun shines out of her ass and lets face it...it is because they think she will win.

[Patricia4]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

I've not watched clip yet, but reading on here what's been said when they did it, I think your dead right, it's all about getting votes for that pair.

[Cherry Christmas]

Tom said it tonite in the HLs show, it looks like we are all kissing Alex's ass...I wonder why that is...good on Aaron for not joining in, I dont know how that fits in with any gameplan he might have, along with his saying to Tom its going to be a long week...:joker: and that stuff in the DR when he said enough about Faye, lets talk about the money, if it wasnt edited I think he did it to be difficult...and I like it..:devil:

[Novo]

£1000 for a watch and a pair of shoes :crazy:

[erinp5]

http://apps.facebook.com/bigbr...-it-for-the-cameras/

Aaron told Jay that he thought spending £500 on presents looked like they were doing it for the cameras and the fact that they didn't speak to him about it, more so. Jay said they didn't plan it, it just came into their heads and when they spoke to BB about it, he said they were not allowed to tell Aaron.

[Vicky.]

http://apps.facebook.com/bigbr...-it-for-the-cameras/

Aaron told Jay that he thought spending £500 on presents looked like they were doing it for the cameras and the fact that they didn't speak to him about it, more so. Jay said they didn't plan it, it just came into their heads and when they spoke to BB about it, he said they were not allowed to tell Aaron.

Eh? The facebook story said that Aaron had agreed at first, then backed out. And Louise made a big deal over Aaron not putting anything in :S

[Harry hunter]

Totally agree I wouldn't spend five hundred pounds on one of my children let alone a friend! Plus if it all goes tits up he walks away with 990 quid!

[erinp5]

Eh? The facebook story said that Aaron had agreed at first, then backed out. And Louise made a big deal over Aaron not putting anything in :S

Click on the link Jay said BB told them not to mention it.

[Bluerang1]

It was genuine but way too expensive.

[Kazanne]

Click on the link Jay said BB told them not to mention it.

Yes i saw that too
So if Aaron was in on it to begin with, then later backed out..... why would Jay even need to say BB told them not to tell anyone what he and Louise had decided to do it?

[showtime77]

Yeah it was about the votes but I don't think it is going to get them anywhere.

[Jamsey]

After watching all of that I think Louise did it for votes and Jay MAY have done it out of generosity (or a mixture).

We can only give our opinions though.

[joeysteele]

I voted an attempt to win votes but on reflection I now think MTVN is right, it was probably a genuine gesture,they have no reason to have any grudges against Tom and Alex anyway.

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtMk4yH3Vyg&feature=player_embedded

[Marmalite]

Eh? The facebook story said that Aaron had agreed at first, then backed out. And Louise made a big deal over Aaron not putting anything in :S


OMG I've just watched the video and Jay says that BB told him they weren't allowed to tell Aaron about it.... so where did all this crap about Aaron backed out of contributing to the birthday gifts come from? Stitch up anyone?

And then the second video is Louise and Jay talking about how they only did this for Alex and Tom and how horrible Aaron is blah blah blah.

This reeks of desperation to win for me now!

[flamingGalah!]

They very obviously did it to look good! No one would spend that amount of money on a birthday present for someone you have known for a matter of weeks in the real world, so why do it in there?? I presume they had cheaper gifts they could have purchased?? Good on Aaron I say, he mentioned that he wouldn't even spend that amount on his son for his birthday so no way would he spent it on Alex & Tom...

[erinp5]

Jay had second thought about the presents ,he said as much when he came out the DR.He also slagged of Alex for not giving him her glue.Louise also slagged her off for not sharing .
Aaron told Jay straight that it was done for the camera's ,so now Jay needs to turn it around with his lies.Here he is now saying something completely different .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXTBi2bg4w0&feature=player_embedded

[Marmalite]

lol at Louise "How can he be angry at a nice gesture? How can he be angry, you know what I mean? I'm fuming me".

Is this girl seriously playing with a full pack of cards?

[maryse12]

The only people saying it wasn't genuine are Aaron fans who of course agree with him! I think it's hilarious! If it was the other way around and Aaron had gotten them presents then of course it would be seen as genuine gesture and not for the cameras! right!? Of course Aaron is going to say they did it for the cameras to put himself in a better light. I can't believe people want someone like Aaron to win! Yes lets reward him for his mature behaviour! All he does is throw strops and I don't find it entertaining. ALEX TO WIN!

[Marmalite]

The only people saying it wasn't genuine are Aaron fans who of course agree with him! I think it's hilarious! If it was the other way around and Aaron had gotten them presents then of course it would be seen as genuine gesture and not for the cameras! right!? Of course Aaron is going to say they did it for the cameras to put himself in a better light. I can't believe people want someone like Aaron to win! Yes lets reward him for his mature behaviour! All he does is throw strops and I don't find it entertaining. ALEX TO WIN!


And if it was done as a genuine gesture only, then they wouldn't have bitched about how Alex better appreciate it as she never shares anything, in the bedroom afterwards and how what goes around comes around would they?

Surely if it was such a geniune gesture then they would have only spoken about how great this is going to make Tom and Alex feel and that they hope they have a nice party and enjoy it.

They talk about how close they are in the house and that they all trust each other etc, etc yet why not ask Aaron if he wanted to be involved in the party and buying them a gift? Why keep it a secret then? Perhaps BB told them not to tell Aaron, perhaps they didn't say anything like that but Jay is, yet again, talking absolute crap because he can't ever tell Aaron the truth. Hopefully we will soon find out but I wouldn't hold your breath!

Tell me, would you spend 1000 quid on 2 people you've know for just 2 months?

[Cheddarcakes]

A cynical attempt to curry favor with the multitudes. Let's be honest ... 100 quid on gifts would have been extravagant when a nice gesture like a card,cake,barbie doll or one of Jay's special tinfoil creations would have been loved by Alex.

Fake and Aaron is 100% correct.It's not like Jay or Louise are going to hang around with Tom after the show are they?

[fingers]

Aaron is probably kicking himself "Why didn't I think of that, Holy Moly I could've sewn it up right there"

[Visage]

I believe it was an attempt to win more votes.

[Rustic bauble]

What made me laugh is when Louise went into the mode of 'Alex doesnt let me have any of her stuff'....she quickly realised what she had said then swiftly followed it up with 'but I know you dont give to receive' :joker:

Louise keeps saying how she likes to make people happy....did she not put herself in Aarons shoes and think he might feel left out or awkward that he gave nothing. She is one selfish liar.... I hope she loses her money in a task thsi week....she might then understand the value of money and be made to look and feel as foolish as she has made Aaron look.

[Rustic bauble]

Aaron is probably kicking himself "Why didn't I think of that, Holy Moly I could've sewn it up right there"


Eeerrr NO... he doesnt have the money to give yet...and like he has said...he wouldnt spend that on a present for his own son let alone Alex and Tom.

[Parmy]

this is ridiculous...aaron fans can't see past the end of their noses and this poll shows that...

[soundslike]

Don't you think that the gifts were highly priced for a reason, to test the hms generosity maybe, to make them feel guilty for not spending money that wasn't theirs to make two hms happy? Jay and Louise probably would have bought Tom and Alex cheaper gifts if they were on offer but as this is BB there is always a plot to the way they do things.

Its a game so of course you are going to play it for what its worth whether its a good move or a bad move. The fact that Aaron is sulking says it all. He wanted to be involved in it to look good also and not like the selfish one. But of course BB is all about that isn't.

[Callum]

Definite attempt for votes. There's nothing this vile couple won't do for more airtime in the aim of getting more votes. :bored:

[Razor]

Good for Aaron. Saying what most are thinking.

Aaron to win!! :elephant::elephant::elephant:

+1

[chuff me dizzy]

Blatant attention seeking ,trying to look the"Good guys"

[suekatt]

Who in their right minds would spend that much on someone they hardly know come on it was not theirs to give did they all agree to share it equally when they got out lol just as if they would so in a matter of speaking Aaron did chip in also did Tom and Alex what a farce lol

[Blink_Me]

Who in their right minds would spend that much on someone they hardly know come on it was not theirs to give did they all agree to share it equally when they got out lol just as if they would so in a matter of speaking Aaron did chip in also did Tom and Alex what a farce lol

Not only that, but Louise and Jay also refused twice before deciding to buying them those gifts. :joker:

[MachoPoodle]

Genuine; like I said in the other thread they suddenly have 10k in their pocket which they didn't expect to have, I think they just thought why not spend a bit of it on making the birthday more enjoyable. I think the fact that they showed doubt afterwards shows that it was genuine otherwise why would they express such thoughts if they purely did it to be seen in a good light? Their perception of money & it's value in there must be strange because they're basically spending money they don't have and I think they just did on a spur of the moment and then it only really sank in later

I thought the same thing watching the clip. I think it was genuine, albeit a bit too impulsive maybe.

[erinp5]

Jay was not happy that he had spent £500 on each gift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxEqhgDyNM&feature=player_embedded#!

[MachoPoodle]

They talk about how close they are in the house and that they all trust each other etc, etc yet why not ask Aaron if he wanted to be involved in the party and buying them a gift?

Like Aaron trusted them with money and asked BB to make sure he really got 10000 out of Alex and Jay? :evilgrin:

[erinp5]

Such an interesting post on this from DS, makes interesting reading





Having watched the videos I'm actually watching Louise very closely and I'm quite amazed at what I'm seeing. She seems to be behind a lot of this if you watch carefully, and I think she's playing Jay and Aaron off against one another. It was her idea to go back in and get the £500 pressies, she made sure that she told Tom and Alex how much they cost as soon as they opened them. She made the digs about Aaron and got Jay riled up, she's making loads of noise about "how can he be so awful about us doing such a nice gesture" to make sure the public know who to blame, even tho she's well aware that she got Jay to go back in without telling Aaron first.

I have always thought she's not as dozy as she comes across, I just didn't realise how devious she actually was. I've noticed her getting the digs in lately, she does it very carefully so that she doesn't come across badly, she always starts off with "he's a lovely bloke but.............". She's played Jay very well with her "eee ah'd do ANYTHING for you ya know" and now that Faye has gone she's started demolishing Aaron. I feel quite sorry for Jay and I never thought I'd hear myself say that !! I think he does quite genuinely care for her, and can't believe that he's found someone that goodlooking who likes all the things he does and would do "anything" for him.

She's played quite a few of them, like Faye and Maisy over Heaven's drink, she didn't admit to being part of them having drunk it. She'd been making little digs about Aaron to Faye for quite a while which we just caught a glimpse of here and there, but never quite overtly enough to be caught out redhanded. Watching this last bit tho has really set the alarm bells ringing, and I think she's at last making her play openly for the winner's title, or to at least make sure that she and Jay will come as close to the top as possible so they can do all the mag deals. If I'm right tho, she's playing a very dangerous game if she stirs Jay up too much against Aaron, because if he ends up punching Aaron he will be thrown out. Or maybe that's what she wants, after all it would be in all the headlines and no publicity is bad publicity, especially if you're shown as just being the beautiful girl model that's standing by her man. IMO Louise is VERY shadeh !!

[Elzo]

I've always said Louise isn't as dumb as she's making out, she's really rather sly.

[Gravedigger]

A cynical attempt to curry favor with the multitudes. Let's be honest ... 100 quid on gifts would have been extravagant when a nice gesture like a card,cake,barbie doll or one of Jay's special tinfoil creations would have been loved by Alex.

Exactly!

Nice to know that in these hard times people money is being so well spent. I may not like Alex or Tom particularly but I bet they're much like me in that they wouldn't spend more than a £100 on a watch or pair of shoes you're not getting anything you appreciate for the extra cash.

And, yes, Louise is raaaat shadeh!

[squiggle]

Such an interesting post on this from DS, makes interesting reading





Having watched the videos I'm actually watching Louise very closely and I'm quite amazed at what I'm seeing. She seems to be behind a lot of this if you watch carefully, and I think she's playing Jay and Aaron off against one another. It was her idea to go back in and get the £500 pressies, she made sure that she told Tom and Alex how much they cost as soon as they opened them. She made the digs about Aaron and got Jay riled up, she's making loads of noise about "how can he be so awful about us doing such a nice gesture" to make sure the public know who to blame, even tho she's well aware that she got Jay to go back in without telling Aaron first.

I have always thought she's not as dozy as she comes across, I just didn't realise how devious she actually was. I've noticed her getting the digs in lately, she does it very carefully so that she doesn't come across badly, she always starts off with "he's a lovely bloke but.............". She's played Jay very well with her "eee ah'd do ANYTHING for you ya know" and now that Faye has gone she's started demolishing Aaron. I feel quite sorry for Jay and I never thought I'd hear myself say that !! I think he does quite genuinely care for her, and can't believe that he's found someone that goodlooking who likes all the things he does and would do "anything" for him.

She's played quite a few of them, like Faye and Maisy over Heaven's drink, she didn't admit to being part of them having drunk it. She'd been making little digs about Aaron to Faye for quite a while which we just caught a glimpse of here and there, but never quite overtly enough to be caught out redhanded. Watching this last bit tho has really set the alarm bells ringing, and I think she's at last making her play openly for the winner's title, or to at least make sure that she and Jay will come as close to the top as possible so they can do all the mag deals. If I'm right tho, she's playing a very dangerous game if she stirs Jay up too much against Aaron, because if he ends up punching Aaron he will be thrown out. Or maybe that's what she wants, after all it would be in all the headlines and no publicity is bad publicity, especially if you're shown as just being the beautiful girl model that's standing by her man. IMO Louise is VERY shadeh !!

I have to smile, thank you for re-posting my post from Gaga :hugesmile: you could have credited me as I have the same name on here. I have actually already posted this on another thread in here but anyway its a valid point and certainly opened my eyes.

[Blink_Me]

Jay was not happy that he had spent £500 on each gift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxEqhgDyNM&feature=player_embedded#!

And you could tell Louise was being fake about it as well.

[erinp5]

I have to smile, thank you for re-posting my post from Gaga :hugesmile: you could have credited me as I have the same name on here. I have actually already posted this on another thread in here but anyway its a valid point and certainly opened my eyes.

Sorry, I certainly didnt take credit for the post Squiggle I just copied what was taken from DS and put it here stating it came from DS.I had no idea you were on here and that you had already posted it. .I found it an interesting post with very legitimate observations about Louise.

[Pyramid*]

A desperate attempt to win votes.

If i ask a mate to chip in for another mates present and he says no, i don't then go and slag him off for not chipping in.

I also don't instantly regret it and expect a nosh in return or to be able to borrow something of theirs.

This pretty much.

Defined by Louise bitching about Alex and then saying, "You don't give to receive.... BUT "

Love, there's no BUT.

unless you expect to receive something back. Muppet of a woman.

[squiggle]

Sorry, I certainly didnt take credit for the post Squiggle I just copied what was taken from DS and put it here stating it came from DS.I had no idea you were on here and that you had already posted it. .I found it an interesting post with very legitimate observations about Louise.

No worries erin, its just the wording was the exact same as I posted on Gaga. Like you I am so glad I saw that post WOW is all I can say, I just didn't see it before but when I look at Louise now its so obvious :shocked:

[Kazanne]

"Jay, Louise & Aaron were asked to the diary room...they were offered the chance to buy a selection of presents 4 Tom and Alex. First selection ranged from £1K-2K in price: they were declined by all 3. Then, they were asked back to look at gifts that ranged from £500-1K in price—they declined....Jay and Louise went back to the diary room & buy Tom & Alex a watch and a pair of shoes which cost each of them £500 from their prize fund. Aaron was unaware of this fact, though."