Online birthday present poll results

[karezza]

BBBOTS revealed the results of an online poll.

How much should the housemates have spent on birthday presents:

with 3 options
1. £1000
2. £500
3. Nothing

63% said nothing.

[Rustic bauble]

63% in favour of Aaron then....:dance::dance::dance::dance:

[vesavius]

63% in favour of Aaron then....:dance::dance::dance::dance:

or 63% are tight miserable bastards.

[karezza]

A box of chocolates would have been sufficient.

[icecakes]

or 63% are tight miserable bastards.

So you would spend £1,000 on two people you've known for a few weeks:shocked:

[flamingGalah!]

or 63% are tight miserable bastards.

Or 63% felt spending that amount of money on two people you have known for 8 weeks is excessive... Would you spend £500 on a present for someone you have not known for long??

[In the Drunk Tank]

Or 63% felt spending that amount of money on two people you have known for 8 weeks is excessive... Would you spend £500 on a present for someone you have not known for long??

If I was in the house with them, if I liked them and was spending their birthday with them, and if I'd just been given a free £10,000 then I'd consider it

[vesavius]

So you would spend £1,000 on two people you've known for a few weeks:shocked:

If I had just received £10,000, minimum, and I considered them friends yes. Why not?

I enjoy giving people presents and I have spent relatively (to the money I had at the time) more then that on presents to people I like.

[flamingGalah!]

If I was in the house with them, if I liked them and was spending their birthday with them, and if I'd just been given a free £10,000 then I'd consider it

But if you & two others had agreed not to would you then go back in, behind the third persons back, & buy the presents & not tell said third person? ;)

[GabbygalEvs]

i dont spend 500 on my husband let alone people ive known for 8 weeks

[vesavius]

But if you & two others had agreed not to would you then go back in, behind the third persons back, & buy the presents & not tell said third person? ;)

Asking for group loyalty on behalf of Aaron...

:laugh3:

[flamingGalah!]

Asking for group loyalty on behalf of Aaron...

:laugh3:

So you would or wouldn't do that then?

[In the Drunk Tank]

But if you & two others had agreed not to would you then go back in, behind the third persons back, & buy the presents & not tell said third person? ;)

Nah I wouldn't but Aaron did say that those two could if they wanted and Jay tried to apologise afterwards :shrug:

[armand.kay]

If I had that much money the first person I would spend it on is me!!! Then my mum,siblings and my son(if I had one). The last thing I would do is spend 500 ****ing pounds on some little ****s I have been forced to live with for 9 weeks...

[Rustic bauble]

or 63% are tight miserable bastards.

More like realistic....Aaron wanted to get them something but not to the value that BB was suggesting....:joker::joker::joker:

....and of course keeping in line with the present economical situation who wants to see money thrown down the drain just to make you look good... ie Jay and Louise will squander money rather than respect its value.

[flamingGalah!]

Nah I wouldn't but Aaron did say that those two could if they wanted and Jay tried to apologise afterwards :shrug:

But they should still have told Aaron that they were, it made it look like they did it deliberatley to make Aaron look bad...

[In the Drunk Tank]

But they should still have told Aaron that they were, it made it look like they did it deliberatley to make Aaron look bad...

Yeah they should have to be fair

[Rustic bauble]

If I had just received £10,000, minimum, and I considered them friends yes. Why not?

I enjoy giving people presents and I have spent relatively (to the money I had at the time) more then that on presents to people I like.

Who has recieved 10,000????... Jay has 15,000 going into his bank and Louise has 5,000....Aaron has 990.00.
Their is NO guarantee they will all do what they verbally agreed to do. I wouldnt trust Jay or Louise to stick to their word....so spending that sum of money of which they are guaranteed a nice piece was of no big deal to them.

Get a life please.... some of these people will agree to anything if it makes them look good....doesnt mean they are going to do it...or have to for that matter.

[vesavius]

So you would or wouldn't do that then?

Would I try to convince the guy who had stabbed the group in the back previously to spend some of his money when he had already said he didn't want to?

lol no.

He would probably just sulk for 3 days about 'emotional blackmailing' him or something and whine about sticking by his 'principles', or whatever else that would get him camera time. You lose either way with Aaron, walking on eggshells around him trying to not set him off.

I would also assume that he was comfortable with 'screw you jack' game play, as demonstrated by him, and play it accordingly.

Look, Jay and Lou did it for the cameras, just as Aaron has been doing everything for the cameras all season. How come their game playing is condemned and his is celebrated?

[cell]

I would be willing to spend money that I didn't even have in my hand yet especially if I would still be leaving 3500, 12 500 or 9500 richer. I like watching people get gifts and see the enjoyment they get from them, but I wouldn't spend 500 out of my own bank account, if it was money I didn't have yet I wouldn't be so attached.

[icecakes]

If I had just received £10,000, minimum, and I considered them friends yes. Why not?

I enjoy giving people presents and I have spent relatively (to the money I had at the time) more then that on presents to people I like.

louise was going out with a night club owner before she entered the house

do you think she would consider Tom, alex, or even Jay her friends on the outside, I doubt it,:whistle:

[vesavius]

louise was going out with a night club owner before she entered the house

do you think she would consider Tom, alex, or even Jay her friends on the outside, I doubt it,:whistle:

You can doubt it all you like, but it's just assumption on your part.

I can't see who Lousie was dating having anything to do with it though TBH. I worked nightclubs when younger and hung out with 3-4 club owners on a regular basis...I am not sure why you think people that date them can't have friends like Alex etc :conf:

[icecakes]

Were the night club owners you knew millionares, always in the papers photographed

with celebrities, different class of people,IMO

[Jake.]

Aaron knew what was going on, so people can stop this 'but poor Aaron was in the dark for the whole time' nonsense. Secondly, if Jay and Louise want to spend that kind of money on friends, why shouldn't they? Because the 'Lord' of the house says no?

[ozzyshaggah]

jay and louise

the latest BB LEGENDS

infinitely more enjoyable than bananagate hahaha

[Pyramid*]

Aaron knew what was going on, so people can stop this 'but poor Aaron was in the dark for the whole time' nonsense. Secondly, if Jay and Louise want to spend that kind of money on friends, why shouldn't they? Because the 'Lord' of the house says no?

Because they do not have the money as yet. BB can still change the rules you know, and there is nothing to say that any of the housemates will honour their agreement. They could all have agreed, but meant not a word of it.

On that premise: why should Aaron have been expected to give up half his 'official' share for a birthday gift? His money, his choice and he should be respected for that - especailly when the cash isn't in their hip pockets yet.

[Pyramid*]

I would be willing to spend money that I didn't even have in my hand yet especially if I would still be leaving 3500, 12 500 or 9500 richer. I like watching people get gifts and see the enjoyment they get from them, but I wouldn't spend 500 out of my own bank account, if it was money I didn't have yet I wouldn't be so attached.

And if you'd have been left with less than £500 ...... you'd feel the same would you, when you were the only person in the house to have a child that you could use that money on, especially with Xmas around the corner? Because that's what Aaron was being forced into doing: and I am so pleased he stood his ground.

His dignity remains intact.

[Pyramid*]

BBBOTS revealed the results of an online poll.

How much should the housemates have spent on birthday presents:

with 3 options
1. £1000
2. £500
3. Nothing

63% said nothing.

63% in favour of Aaron then....:dance::dance::dance::dance:

Great to read that..... surprised it's not higher tbh.

I'm one of the most generous people I know - and there is no way I'd have been forced into this which is precisely what BB was doing - and by god, they KNEW what they were doing with Aaron last night. Completely setting him up.

[G1dds]

And if you'd have been left with less than £500 ...... you'd feel the same would you, when you were the only person in the house to have a child that you could use that money on, especially with Xmas around the corner? Because that's what Aaron was being forced into doing: and I am so pleased he stood his ground.

His dignity remains intact.



Agreed. And as Aaron stated, he wouldn't even spend that on his son so why would he on people he's just shared a house with.

As far as Im concerned, he is the honest one. I'd never spend such obscene amounts of money on a present - especially things like Shoes or a flamin watch fgs, and have never so much as spent that on my much adored kids

Ridiculous

[soundslike]

But they should still have told Aaron that they were, it made it look like they did it deliberatley to make Aaron look bad...


Thats what you say. I watched it and it was clear they did it to be nice. At the end of the day BB offered them no other options. And the money is not theirs and I would have played along with it just for the controversy and to see Tom and Alex faces when they received the present.

Aaron is a tight fisted greedy get. Look at the way he jumped up the minute BB mentioned spending the money he didn't wait for any other options he was rushing to leave the DR. I am not suprised they didn't mention it to him again.

[Pyramid*]

Agreed. And as Aaron stated, he wouldn't even spend that on his son so why would he on people he's just shared a house with.

As far as Im concerned, he is the honest one. I'd never spend such obscene amounts of money on a present - especially things like Shoes or a flamin watch fgs, and have never so much as spent that on my much adored kids

Ridiculous

The crucial point that many who are slating Aaron appear to be missing is this:

The housemates agreed to split the money into £10k each.

Jay, Louise and Aaron all agreed not to spend money on the gifts.

Jay and Louise opted to break that agreement, to change their mind, without discussing it further with Aaron - despite them all agreeing.

Who therefore is to say that Jay and Louise will not do the same with the supposed agreement to equally share the £10k? Who is to say they wont' change their minds then.......without discussing this change of mind - despite them having agreed.

If anything - I'd say this puts them in an even worse light: that their word means nothing - and that there is every chance they will do the same regarding the agreed split on the £50k. ;) Why? Because both of them have now shown that a mutual group agreement means nothing and that they cannot be trusted as their word being their bond.

Own goal methinks !

[soundslike]

Because they do not have the money as yet. BB can still change the rules you know, and there is nothing to say that any of the housemates will honour their agreement. They could all have agreed, but meant not a word of it.

On that premise: why should Aaron have been expected to give up half his 'official' share for a birthday gift? His money, his choice and he should be respected for that - especailly when the cash isn't in their hip pockets yet.


Yes and Jay and Louise respected him by not pestering him again. They knew his stance on that and decided not to ask again. Their money their choice and they should be respected for that too.

[Pyramid*]

[/B]


Thats what you say. I watched it and it was clear they did it to be nice. At the end of the day BB offered them no other options. And the money is not theirs and I would have played along with it just for the controversy and to see Tom and Alex faces when they received the present.

Aaron is a tight fisted greedy get. Look at the way he jumped up the minute BB mentioned spending the money he didn't wait for any other options he was rushing to leave the DR. I am not suprised they didn't mention it to him again.

If they did it to be nice: why then, as soon as Jay and Louise went into the bedroom having bought the gifts: did Louise start bitching about alex, and the fact that Alex wouldn't share things that belonged to Alex, with her (Louise) -.... why then did Louise say, "You don't give to receive.... BUT....." ....which very conveniently WASNT shown on the HLs show. ;)

Because there was nothing genuine in the gesture on Louise's part - and that came over loud and clear.

Jay felt guilty - shown by his rage later on. Shown by him changing the prize money allocation perspex signs...... feeling guilty because he KNOWS he was in the wrong - and Jay never ever admits to him being wrong - he takes it out on everyone else in the only way he knows how - to be aggressive and threatning.

[Pyramid*]

Yes and Jay and Louise respected him by not pestering him again. They knew his stance on that and decided not to ask again. Their money their choice and they should be respected for that too.

What is their money? They HAVE NOT received any money yet.

Louise respected no one. She showed so little respect for Aaron that she deliberately excluded Aaron from this sudden change of mind.

She has no respect even for herself - how on earth can you expect her to respect anyone else.

[Pyramid*]

As for Jay saying "We came in with nothing, so it doesn't matter"

Funny that he didn't share the same sentiments when BB suggested gifts in the £1000 bracket eh!!

Suddenly he wasn't so assured of his "We came in with nothing, so it doesn't matter", train of thought when it was a grand they were asked to cough up.

What a two faced lying git he is - amongst all other things.

[soundslike]

What is their money? They HAVE NOT received any money yet.

Louise respected no one. She showed so little respect for Aaron that she deliberately excluded Aaron from this sudden change of mind.

She has no respect even for herself - how on earth can you expect her to respect anyone else.


Yes they have not received any money yet. For all they know BB could be paying for the presents. Either way I would have gone along with it as I came into the house with just my money and anything I earn would be a bonus.

I would have excluded Aaron he is so high on principles when it fits that I wouldn't waste my breath trying to get him involved in the issue again. And If Louise whinged about Alex I would have too if she is as selfish as they say she is. It wouldn't stop me spending BB money on presents just to see the outcome of it.

[soundslike]

As for Jay saying "We came in with nothing, so it doesn't matter"

Funny that he didn't share the same sentiments when BB suggested gifts in the £1000 bracket eh!!

Suddenly he wasn't so assured of his "We came in with nothing, so it doesn't matter", train of thought when it was a grand they were asked to cough up.

What a two faced lying git he is - amongst all other things.



After thinking about it you can change your mind you. The two face lying greedy git is Aaron the jumping up out of the chair and trying to leave the DR while BB were still talking says it all for me.

Well done Louise and Jay. That put Mr Uppity firmly in his place.

[soundslike]

The crucial point that many who are slating Aaron appear to be missing is this:

The housemates agreed to split the money into £10k each.

Jay, Louise and Aaron all agreed not to spend money on the gifts.

Jay and Louise opted to break that agreement, to change their mind, without discussing it further with Aaron - despite them all agreeing.

Who therefore is to say that Jay and Louise will not do the same with the supposed agreement to equally share the £10k? Who is to say they wont' change their minds then.......without discussing this change of mind - despite them having agreed.

If anything - I'd say this puts them in an even worse light: that their word means nothing - and that there is every chance they will do the same regarding the agreed split on the £50k. ;) Why? Because both of them have now shown that a mutual group agreement means nothing and that they cannot be trusted as their word being their bond.
Own goal methinks !

Oh do you mean like Aaron and the nominations. Yeh right!:joker:

[G1dds]

If they did it to be nice: why then, as soon as Jay and Louise went into the bedroom having bought the gifts: did Louise start bitching about alex, and the fact that Alex wouldn't share things that belonged to Alex, with her (Louise) -.... why then did Louise say, "You don't give to receive.... BUT....." ....which very conveniently WASNT shown on the HLs show. ;)

Because there was nothing genuine in the gesture on Louise's part - and that came over loud and clear.

Jay felt guilty - shown by his rage later on. Shown by him changing the prize money allocation perspex signs...... feeling guilty because he KNOWS he was in the wrong - and Jay never ever admits to him being wrong - he takes it out on everyone else in the only way he knows how - to be aggressive and threatning.



I agree (again lol :wavey:) - highlighted by Loo telling them (a million times) that her & jay spent £500 of "their" money to buy the presents - and then was asking Alex if she mentioned to BB what a nice thing they did. It speaks volumes that she used underhand tactics to look good.

On the other hand, I honestly think jay got swept along by Louise . He now knows he should have mentioned it to aaron instead of sneaking off into the Diary Room, and knows that aaron is right about how it comes across - hence his aggression

I think even jay has been manipulated by the cold, calculating Louise - men aside (sorry men, sweeping statement here :joker:), there isnt a chance in hell that she wouldnt have considered mentioning to aaron - she CHOSE not to tell him to put him in a bad light because lets be honest, jay isnt the sharpest tool