Jay tries to make up with Aaron

[In the Drunk Tank]

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/ it's the newest video: "Jay and Aaron make up" although I'm not sure if Aaron's fully accepted his apology yet :suspect:

Say what you like about Jay but I think this shows he is genuine and does want to make up, this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

Edit - Youtube vid:

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[Kazanne]

Is this it
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[In the Drunk Tank]

No it's a new one, the two of them out in the garden and Jay apologising

Edit - I guess it will be uploaded to there soon

[Kazanne]

Was going to say as in this one,they look to be being pretty nasty,Louise more than anyone I think.

[pegson123]

jay reminds me of a big gossip girl who has to run off and tell his women to get them on side

[MachoPoodle]

This is the one in the garden:
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[Kazanne]

jay reminds me of a big gossip girl who has to run off and tell his women to get them on side

yes,WHY does he always do that.stand alone,like Aaron does

[Jamsey]

Louise is so much worse than Jay, so, so much worse.

What are your thoughts on her MTVN as a Jay fan?

[lime]

Is this it
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This one I think is after they spoke in the garden as Jay is repeating what Aaron said to him.

[ChristmasNeeve]

tbf I don't think the situation would have turned out the way it did if it weren't for Louise stirring and riling Jay up.

[In the Drunk Tank]

This is the one in the garden:
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This one I think is after they spoke in the garden as Jay is repeating what Aaron said to him.

No it's not it's a new one :laugh: Click the Facebook link, it was only uploaded 20 mins ago

[fruit_cake]

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/ it's the newest video: "Jay and Aaron make up" although I'm not sure if Aaron's fully accepted his apology yet :suspect:

Say what you like about Jay but I think this shows he is genuine and does want to make up, this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

I do like bits about Jay but frankly he scares me when he gets angry, and he's really gross. Louise is much worse imo

[alex_front2]

Jay playing the big man after he threatens to punch Aaron if there were no cameras. Erm how 'big' of him

[Pyramid*]

Thing is: everything Aaron is saying : is exactly what the vast majority of us on here have said too - almost word for word - even before we saw this clip.

70% of folk is hard to disagee with. ;)

[MachoPoodle]

Aaron is being absolutely horrible. He's never interested in anyone's opinion or views except his own, and he seems to think it's an absolute impossibility he could ever be wrong. This is not the way one behaves in a group of people. It has nothing to do with principles or morals or anything. I'm beginning to think he has aspergers or something, this is not normal.

[Visage]

I always knew Jay would be the first to speak, that's how he works as I see him. Jay gets angry and can become aggressive in his manner, however once he's over that period he can be much calmer and easier to move on from the situation.

Aaron tends to mull it over for days rarely getting aggressive and it sticks in his system longer.

I hope they do move on from this, I can't be doing with all this none speaking especially now there is only five left in there.

[MachoPoodle]

No it's not it's a new one :laugh: Click the Facebook link, it was only uploaded 20 mins ago

Not on Facebook, which is probably why I can't watch anything on there.

[Jamsey]

Aaron is being absolutely horrible. He's never interested in anyone's opinion or views except his own, and he seems to think it's an absolute impossibility he could ever be wrong. This is not the way one behaves in a group of people. It has nothing to do with principles or morals or anything. I'm beginning to think he has aspergers or something, this is not normal.

Steady now. :nono:

[Pyramid*]

Aaron is being absolutely horrible. He's never interested in anyone's opinion or views except his own, and he seems to think it's an absolute impossibility he could ever be wrong. This is not the way one behaves in a group of people. It has nothing to do with principles or morals or anything. I'm beginning to think he has aspergers or something, this is not normal.

PMSL.


I think you've mixed up Aaron and Jay in your post above!

:joker:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Jay playing the big man after he threatens to punch Aaron if there were no cameras. Erm how 'big' of him

Apologising to Aaron and admitting he was wrong, oh yeah he's really playing the big man :rolleyes:

[Kazanne]

Not on Facebook, which is probably why I can't watch anything on there.

Probably been taken off for a quick edit!

[In the Drunk Tank]

Probably been taken off for a quick edit!

The video is on Facebook, the poster was saying that they weren't

[Pyramid*]

Probably been taken off for a quick edit!

I think the poodle meant that 'they' aren't on FB - hence they cannot watch the clip.

[MachoPoodle]

Probably been taken off for a quick edit!

No, I mean I'm not on Facebook, and I think that's the reason why none of the vids on there are possble for me to watch. ;)

[Kazanne]

Apologising to Aaron and admitting he was wrong, oh yeah he's really playing the big man :rolleyes:

Why is he apologizing if he thinks he's done nothing wrong and dont you think it's jay acting like a child by calling silly names?but as I said I think it's Louise who is spurring him on,he needs to grow a pair and tell her to butt out.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Ok the clip is finally on Youtube :hello:

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[MachoPoodle]

PMSL.


I think you've mixed up Aaron and Jay in your post above!

:joker:

In what sense?

[Roy Mars III]

Jay is a good guy, I think. Louise is the one who escalated the whole situation.

[Kazanne]

I think the poodle meant that 'they' aren't on FB - hence they cannot watch the clip.

i heard that one was taken off a few minutes after it was put up,LOL:joker:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Why is he apologizing if he thinks he's done nothing wrong and dont you think it's jay acting like a child by calling silly names?but as I said I think it's Louise who is spurring him on,he needs to grow a pair and tell her to butt out.

Because he doesn't want the last few days to be marred by conflict, and what silly names :conf: it seems to be Jay's style to just have a rant about something and then once he calms down he's more reasonable and willing to talk

[Objectivegirl]

Aaron is being absolutely horrible. He's never interested in anyone's opinion or views except his own, and he seems to think it's an absolute impossibility he could ever be wrong. This is not the way one behaves in a group of people. It has nothing to do with principles or morals or anything. I'm beginning to think he has aspergers or something, this is not normal.

Funny you should mention that. I have been wondering about Aaron being Asbergers for some time now. He definitely shows some traits. If this is so and Channel 5 were aware of this before he entered the House, what they have done is despicable

[Merry Mockmas]

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/ it's the newest video: "Jay and Aaron make up" although I'm not sure if Aaron's fully accepted his apology yet :suspect:

Say what you like about Jay but I think this shows he is genuine and does want to make up, this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

Edit - Youtube vid:

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Or more like he doesnt want to have Aaron fans even more against him only it hasnt worked as I can see through his act and so can some other Aaron fans I bet.

Jay Waggot is far from genuine.

[Pyramid*]

Funny you should mention that. I have been wondering about Aaron being Asbergers for some time now. He definitely shows some traits. If this is so and Channel 5 were aware of this before he entered the House, what they have done is despicable

Loving the cod psychology going on and all the online doctors that are suddenly making an appearance this week.

Aaron must be really getting to some!!!

Superb !!

:D

[Pyramid*]

Jays attempt at damage limitation!!

so transparent!

[In the Drunk Tank]

Loving the cod psychology going on and all the online doctors that are suddenly making an appearance this week.

Aaron must be really getting to some!!!

Superb !!

:D

Think that poster is an Aaron fan actually

[fingers]

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This one?

[In the Drunk Tank]

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This one?

Yeah that's it, posted it a few comments up :tongue:

[fingers]

Aaron is digging a real deep hole for himself, he is coming across as a complete and utter boor.

[Vicky.]

I have noticed (grossness aside...as noone else can be blamed for that) that its usually people associated with jay that make him look bad. He was an absolute dick when around Anton. Anton left and Jay became more likeable. And now Louise is making him look bad over this whole gift thing...which I dont think Jay even wanted to do. I think he gave in when she went on about it...he certainly did not seem happy about it. Then its Louise that has kept mentioning the money (thus making aarons point about it being for the cameras alone stick out a lot more) and bringing it up constantly...and then she winds him up so much ranting on that he goes and snaps.

[Pyramid*]

Think that poster is an Aaron fan actually

And my comments still apply - regardless of whether they are a fan or not.

I don't have to agree with someone because they are a fan of the same housemate as I.



re the vid. Funny that the ONLY one who keeps banging on and on and on about the whole thing - is JAY !!!! The guilt is eating him up so much - remember this is the same guy that Jay wanted to punch his head in etc....just a night ago.

Deary me.

[Visage]

I have noticed (grossness aside...as noone else can be blamed for that) that its usually people associated with jay that make him look bad. He was an absolute dick when around Anton. Anton left and Jay became more likeable. And now Louise is making him look bad over this whole gift thing...which I dont think Jay even wanted to do. I think he gave in when she went on about it...he certainly did not seem happy about it. Then its Louise that has kept mentioning the money (thus making aarons point about it being for the cameras alone stick out a lot more) and bringing it up constantly...and then she winds him up so much ranting on that he goes and snaps.

I think that's pretty spot on with him.

He did change for the better once Anton left and now he's with Louise more and more he's going back into the way he was when Anton was around.

[Pyramid*]

I have noticed (grossness aside...as noone else can be blamed for that) that its usually people associated with jay that make him look bad. He was an absolute dick when around Anton. Anton left and Jay became more likeable. And now Louise is making him look bad over this whole gift thing...which I dont think Jay even wanted to do. I think he gave in when she went on about it...he certainly did not seem happy about it. Then its Louise that has kept mentioning the money (thus making aarons point about it being for the cameras alone stick out a lot more) and bringing it up constantly...and then she winds him up so much ranting on that he goes and snaps.

Nah, see I don't buy this Vicky. That smacks too much to me of the typical defence that Jay uses: "Wasn't me like, it was someone else" - when it IS him - he is as guilty as anyone - and he reacts the worst.

No willpower, no control - and honestly, I think he is dangerous (as in violent and aggressive dangerous).

It's the old wife beater excuse.... "I love you, but you made me do it / drove me to it/ you just riled me up so much / "...... I don't see a great deal of difference tbh.

[fingers]

It's a sad but true fact that Aaron is singlehandedly destroying the atmosphere in the house and I'm sure the voters will notice. Forum FANS of Aaron really don't have any influence on the casual viewers however much they think they do! :dance:

[Pyramid*]

It's a sad but true fact that Aaron is singlehandedly destroying the atmosphere in the house and I'm sure the voters will notice. Forum FANS of Aaron really don't have any influence on the casual viewers however much they think they do! :dance:

I think you will find that the true fact is: if Jay and Louise had not behaved in such a sneaky, sly, conniving manner - there would be nothing to have an atmosphere over. ;)

[Vicky.]

Nah, see I don't buy this Vicky. That smacks too much to me of the typical defence that Jay uses: "Wasn't me like, it was someone else" - when it IS him - he is as guilty as anyone - and he reacts the worst.

No willpower, no control - and honestly, I think he is dangerous (as in violent and aggressive dangerous).

It's the old wife beater excuse.... "I love you, but you made me do it"...... I don't see a great deal of difference tbh.

I'm not saying he is never in the wrong, and his aggressive side quite scares me at times. Even more so after actually speaking to some people he drinks with on the outside (but thats besides the point and nothing to do with BB)

But the majority of 'bad jay' storylines...have been more about someone else, and hes just guilty by association. Hes played his part, with the bitching and that, but it seems to be someone else who takes the lead role in it, and then Jay gets equal blame.

He has a horrible temper problem, and I think some people play on that...to hide behind him. Louise especially. I have no doubts that she would sell her own granny to win, and now she seems to be trying to take jay out of the competition too. Something that struck me as odd yesterday...was her bringing up the ladyboy story again and then sitting looking disgusted. She KNEW about the ladyboy thing, they discussed it a while back, so why bring it up in the final week and be disgusted now...when she laughed about it last time?!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I think you will find that the true fact is: if Jay and Louise had not behaved in such a sneaky, sly, conniving manner - there would be nothing to have an atmosphere over. ;)

So very true Pyramid.

[BBfan6418]

And my comments still apply - regardless of whether they are a fan or not.

I don't have to agree with someone because they are a fan of the same housemate as I.



re the vid. Funny that the ONLY one who keeps banging on and on and on about the whole thing - is JAY !!!! The guilt is eating him up so much - remember this is the same guy that Jay wanted to punch his head in etc....just a night ago.

Deary me.


I'll take the word of the HM's that have lived with him 24/7. He is a crazy but a caring guy. Most recently Faye made these similar comments about him. Jay wants peace in the house for Alex and Tom. He knows they are in this because they truly love BB. He doesn't want there last few days in the house spoiled by himself and Aaron not getting along.

[Merry Mockmas]

Aaron is digging a real deep hole for himself, he is coming across as a complete and utter boor.

Jay is the one creating the deep hole as will be proven on Thursday if BB doesnt rig the votes.

[Merry Mockmas]

I have noticed (grossness aside...as noone else can be blamed for that) that its usually people associated with jay that make him look bad. He was an absolute dick when around Anton. Anton left and Jay became more likeable. And now Louise is making him look bad over this whole gift thing...which I dont think Jay even wanted to do. I think he gave in when she went on about it...he certainly did not seem happy about it. Then its Louise that has kept mentioning the money (thus making aarons point about it being for the cameras alone stick out a lot more) and bringing it up constantly...and then she winds him up so much ranting on that he goes and snaps.

How about Jay is just a horrible bastard and likes to make his partners in crime look worse than him?

[Objectivegirl]

[QUOTE=Pyramid*;4733405]And my comments still apply - regardless of whether they are a fan or not.

I don't have to agree with someone because they are a fan of the same housemate as I.


I'm very much in Aaron's corner and while I'm no online doctor and would never profess to be, I was merely making an observation based on what I've been seeng (or rather, what we have been shown).

[Pyramid*]

I'm not saying he is never in the wrong, and his aggressive side quite scares me at times. Even more so after actually speaking to some people he drinks with on the outside (but thats besides the point and nothing to do with BB)

But the majority of 'bad jay' storylines...have been more about someone else, and hes just guilty by association. Hes played his part, with the bitching and that, but it seems to be someone else who takes the lead role in it, and then Jay gets equal blame.

He has a horrible temper problem, and I think some people play on that...to hide behind him. Louise especially. I have no doubts that she would sell her own granny to win, and now she seems to be trying to take jay out of the competition too. Something that struck me as odd yesterday...was her bringing up the ladyboy story again and then sitting looking disgusted. She KNEW about the ladyboy thing, they discussed it a while back, so why bring it up in the final week and be disgusted now...when she laughed about it last time?!

Couldn't agree more with you on Louise - been saying the same thing for weeks on here.

Jay - nah, I don't see it Vicky. Not saying it's not a possibility - but for me - I may have blinkers on but I'm adamant that he's the type that acts - then realises the damage he's done after he's lost the tattie - and then gets all remorseful.

Regardless if it's going along with a very bad idea; to being aggressive and violent.

This is one that it's highly doubtful that I'll be giving him the benefit of the doubt on. It's a cycle we've seen with Jay over the past few weeks: and I don't like it.

[MachoPoodle]

I think you will find that the true fact is: if Jay and Louise had not behaved in such a sneaky, sly, conniving manner - there would be nothing to have an atmosphere over. ;)

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.

[Pyramid*]

I'm very much in Aaron's corner and while I'm no online doctor and would never profess to be, I was merely making an observation based on what I've been seeng (or rather, what we have been shown).

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)

[Incensed]

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.


I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

[Pyramid*]

I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

:D

[spintronic]

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/

this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

Edit - Youtube vid:

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For every one of your "mild mannered Jay clips".

Do we as the human population, have to put up with the gross;

"I'd kill - (**** in kettle)- (spark out)-(kick the **** out of him)- (I'd twat him)" experiences?

I'll think you'll find this amusing.

Aggression like Jays, (ACTUALLY KILLS PEOPLE)

No wonder Louise looks nervous.

[In the Drunk Tank]

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

:D

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

[Merry Mockmas]

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

:D

This.

[Incensed]

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

:D

Oh come on Pyramid, you're not trying to tell me Jay is as moody as Aaron? :joker:

I may not agree with you on your liking of Aaron but I've respected your view, but I can't on this one I'm afraid :hugesmile:

[Holly Christmas]

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

[Pyramid*]

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

[showtime77]

Jay thinks on a very simplistic level and is easily led. I think he is lucky that he didn't give that little rant of his to Aaron but to the other house mates instead.

[Pyramid*]

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

Thank you Kate, I thought so as well but I am glad someone else feels the same way.

[Objectivegirl]

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)


I think you are reading a wee bit too much into this. There is a world of difference between an observation and a diagnosis. And no offence was ever intended... Anyway, to get back to the point, it'll be interesting to see how all this has affected Thursday's outcome

[In the Drunk Tank]

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of

[Ammi]

I don't have a problem with 'rants' but Jay saying he would physically hurt Aaron if they were on the outside is stepping far beyond a 'rant'..if I've ever found myself softening towards Jay having a gentler side...he just threw ice cold water over me last night......I detest (yes , that is a strong word) everything he stands for

[Pyramid*]

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

I think you are reading a wee bit too much into this. There is a world of difference between an observation and a diagnosis. And no offence was ever intended... Anyway, to get back to the point, it'll be interesting to see how all this has affected Thursday's outcome

I don't need to read too much into anything - you may not have intended causing offence: but it appears that has happened - with your observation. Do you have any relevant experience or professional background in which you are able to make such comment 'based on your observations'.?

[Pyramid*]

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you :pat:

nah... I'm not going to be able to meet you half way on this one. It's ain't gonna happen! C'est la vie.

[fingers]

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Aaron talks to the viewers (well there was no one else there!) lol

[Pyramid*]

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Aaron talks to the viewers (well there was no one else there!) lol

True: they were in the bedroom bitching about him....... ;) I'd rather talk to the viewers too - because he said the same thing as many of us happened to be thinking.

OMG... the man is a psychic. :shocked: We've got to all vote for him on that premise alone.

:dance:

[fingers]

Is this the action of a normal thinking reasonable man of 30 or does it look like the petulant tantrum of a 5 year old just-out-of-kindergarten kiddie?

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I know what I think!:hugesmile:

[jet]

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you :pat:

I agree. I applaud him for his self control in the house. I don't think his temper can be that bad though - I think most of it is just verbally letting off steam. If he has a history of violence or a police record about ANYTHING he wouldn't have gotten into the house.
It has been proved in those vid clips that he can be very reasonable and calm and open to civil discussion about issues that bother him. He's a good kid at heart. He is definitely a bigger man than Aaron in so many ways - by a mile.

[Angus]

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

Totally agree Pyramid, and I speak from personal experience having lived with someone like that for 10 years. He was always sorry afterwards, but what good is that? Give me a sulker over a thug any day.

[the truth]

still absurd that aaron can be so judgemental when he lied and went back on his word about group nominations and waited till the last minute to do so.
he also ruined the entire letter writing from loved ones and 2 birthday parties amongst many other occasions

yes he was finally marginally in the right on this issue but after 70 days of teenage strops he had to finally find something to really strop about. his behaviour has been pathetic throughout.

[soundslike]

I'm not saying he is never in the wrong, and his aggressive side quite scares me at times. Even more so after actually speaking to some people he drinks with on the outside (but thats besides the point and nothing to do with BB)But the majority of 'bad jay' storylines...have been more about someone else, and hes just guilty by association. Hes played his part, with the bitching and that, but it seems to be someone else who takes the lead role in it, and then Jay gets equal blame.

He has a horrible temper problem, and I think some people play on that...to hide behind him. Louise especially. I have no doubts that she would sell her own granny to win, and now she seems to be trying to take jay out of the competition too. Something that struck me as odd yesterday...was her bringing up the ladyboy story again and then sitting looking disgusted. She KNEW about the ladyboy thing, they discussed it a while back, so why bring it up in the final week and be disgusted now...when she laughed about it last time?!



I wish people would give that sappy comment a rest! what do you think hes going to do kick through your tv screens and beat the living delights out of you. Have a word with yourselves!



And the other comment yes it has nothing to do with BB anyone can say anything about the hms.:nono:

[Pyramid*]

Totally agree Pyramid, and I speak from personal experience having lived with someone like that for 10 years. He was always sorry afterwards, but what good is that? Give me a sulker over a thug any day.


Yep, and it's in the cold light of day, it dawns on them what they actually did or said - their guilt kicks in - and we see the same cycle that we've been watching with Jay for weeks now - with his behaviour towards Aaron, in fact, since just before Anton got the boot - it has progressively become worse - and more evident.

[Pyramid*]

I wish people would give that sappy comment a rest! what do you think hes going to do kick through your tv screens and beat the living delights out of you. Have a word with yourselves!



And the other comment yes it has nothing to do with BB anyone can say anything about the hms.:nono:

I wish people would give some credit to those who do put up 'sappy comment's as you call them. They usually have that very real and true opinion for very good reason. It's called experience. ;)

[soundslike]

[QUOTE=Pyramid*;4733405]And my comments still apply - regardless of whether they are a fan or not.

I don't have to agree with someone because they are a fan of the same housemate as I.


I'm very much in Aaron's corner and while I'm no online doctor and would never profess to be, I was merely making an observation based on what I've been seeng (or rather, what we have been shown).

How about this for observation then. Hes just a stuck up, self-centred, arrogant git. No medical problem at all just a sad sulky prat!

[soundslike]

I wish people would give some credit to those who do put up 'sappy comment's as you call them. They usually have that very real and true opinion for very good reason. It's called experience. ;)


No its called bullshine!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Of course hes going to apoligise! He said he would beat him up on the outside, so he should apoligise he was in the wrong. A genuine vile creature, you're Right MTVN:thumbs:

[Vicky.]

I wish people would give that sappy comment a rest! what do you think hes going to do kick through your tv screens and beat the living delights out of you. Have a word with yourselves!



And the other comment yes it has nothing to do with BB anyone can say anything about the hms.:nono:

Excuse me?

Sappy comments...commenting on obvious anger problems. OK then. :crazy:

[jet]

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

This is a gross exaggeration. I've seen Jay punching a cushion (which is a sensible way of dealing with anger), throwing something on the ground and stomping on a few bananas. I can't reconcile that with ''violent outbursts' being 'totally out of control' or 'face ready to blow up'. If it was as you describe, he would have been thrown out of the house, or at the least the HM's would be afraid and talking about all this among themselves.
Instead, they talk about Aaron and how HE is affecting the whole house with his passive aggressiveness. That seems to upset them far more.

[tomflint]

Aaron to win!!!!!!!!
Keep voting for him!!!!
Aaron Aaron Aaron!!!!!!!!!

[jet]

Of course hes going to apoligise! He said he would beat him up on the outside, so he should apoligise he was in the wrong. A genuine vile creature, you're Right MTVN:thumbs:

No he did not say he would beat Aaron up on the outside. He said 'if someone'....Different thing altogether.

[soundslike]

Excuse me?

Sappy comments...commenting on obvious anger problems. OK then. :crazy:

No sappy comments saying he scares you.:bored: :crazy:

[Vicky.]

No sappy comments saying he scares you.:bored: :crazy:

I didnt say HE scared me. I said that his aggressive side quite scares me. Big difference.

[dwarling]

still absurd that aaron can be so judgemental when he lied and went back on his word about group nominations and waited till the last minute to do so.
he also ruined the entire letter writing from loved ones and 2 birthday parties amongst many other occasions

yes he was finally marginally in the right on this issue but after 70 days of teenage strops he had to finally find something to really strop about. his behaviour has been pathetic throughout.

Yes, forgot about the letters from home thing,..and true, he does mope around alot, making people feel uncomfortable..moping all through Alex and Tom's party was unforgivable.

[Jedwardhater]

Didn't fat Jay swear on his mother life that he would never speak to Aaron again???
Does this now mean he is a liar?

[Kazanne]

No its called bullshine!

And you're in denial

[Kazanne]

Yes, forgot about the letters from home thing,..and true, he does mope around alot, making people feel uncomfortable..moping all through Alex and Tom's party was unforgivable.

He DIDN'T thought did he,crikey what's the point:nono:people just do not watch or hear things properly.

[Pyramid*]

Didn't fat Jay swear on his mother life that he would never speak to Aaron again???
Does this now mean he is a liar?

Well he lied about walking if he heard boos.

he lied about having any involvement in ketchupgate initially when harry confronted him.

he lied to Tom/Alex in the bedroom on the night of their birthday by saying, "I'm not going into this just now, not gonna ruin her birthday, we'll talk about it tomorrow"....then proceeded to kick off on the night of their birthday.

Lots more instances: so yes: he is a liar.

[soundslike]

He DIDN'T thought did he,crikey what's the point:nono:people just do not watch or hear things properly.

And I'm in denial?

[Kazanne]

And I'm in denial?

Well for one he DID join in the party,we were just shown what BB wanted us to see Aaron having a fag with the voice of marcus saying Aarons in a huff!! the bloke was having a fag,and it was not Aaron that 'ruined' Alex and Toms party(although they have never once said he did)it is jay and Louise banging on continuously about the effing pressies and how much they cost,they caused the atmosphere aaron took himself off into another room,that is not denial it's fact

[Kazanne]

Well he lied about walking if he heard boos.

he lied about having any involvement in ketchupgate initially when harry confronted him.

he lied to Tom/Alex in the bedroom on the night of their birthday by saying, "I'm not going into this just now, not gonna ruin her birthday, we'll talk about it tomorrow"....then proceeded to kick off on the night of their birthday.

Lots more instances: so yes: he is a liar.

Dont forget he lost his balls when Heaven and Rebbeca had that row,and she asked jay what was said and he went red and wussed out.

[Pyramid*]

Dont forget he lost his balls when Heaven and Rebbeca had that row,and she asked jay what was said and he went red and wussed out.

he also was happy to go along with the lie that Anton told when they came out of the crypt...... where he said Harry said Louise was thick... when Harry didn't actually say that at all.

I think the case is building up here quite nicely Kazanne....what d'ya reckon?

[In the Drunk Tank]

Harry on BOTS: "I don't Louise is a bit think.. I think she's 100% thick"

Looks like Jay and Anton were pretty spot on with how they interpreted Harry's comments

[In the Drunk Tank]

Harry on BOTS: "I don't Louise is a bit think.. I think she's 100% thick"

Looks like Jay and Anton were pretty spot on with how they interpreted Harry's comments

[fingers]

No matter what Tibb Forumers or, for that matter, members of other forums chatter on about their favourites. They have ZERO influence on the casual viewers/voters. They can fulminate all they want but they don't count.

[Incensed]

Well for one he DID join in the party,we were just shown what BB wanted us to see Aaron having a fag with the voice of marcus saying Aarons in a huff!! the bloke was having a fag,and it was not Aaron that 'ruined' Alex and Toms party(although they have never once said he did)it is jay and Louise banging on continuously about the effing pressies and how much they cost,they caused the atmosphere aaron took himself off into another room,that is not denial it's fact

No?

Party Night
BBUKLive: 2041: Housemates have had fast food delivered, as well as cupcakes, drink and sweets. Aaron is pacing up and down the kitchen

BBUKLive: 2049: Louise and Jay are miffed at Aaron for being in a strop and telling Jay that they bought Alex & Tom presents for the cameras

BBUKLive: 2055 Louise & Jay are enjoying Alex & Tom's birthdays with them at their dinner party. Aaron is in the bathroom brushing his teeth

BBUKLive: 2206: The housemates are discussing Aaron's reaction to Alex and Tom's presents.

BBUKLive: 2223: There's an icy atmosphere between Jay and Louise and Aaron. The couple are avoiding him, and vice versa #BBUK

BBUKLive: 2240: Aaron's in the diary room, chatting to Big Brother. The rest are outside having a chat: the situation's not gone away though #BBUKLIVE

BBUKLive: 2315: Aaron is still in the diary room. #bbuklive

BBUKLive: 2352: Louise thinks Aaron should talk to her and Jay about the situation, but the different parties are sill avoiding each other #BBUKLIVE

BBUKLive: 0008: Jay's made his mind up that he's not going to talk to Aaron until he leaves. Louise has called tonight 'the last straw' #BBUKLIVE

Oh, hang on. He seems to be out of his strop now.

BBUKLive: 0109: Big Brother is treating the housemates: more music is being played. Obligatory Aaron-dancing picture to follow. #BBUKLIVE

BBUKLive: 0114: Here's Mix-master Allard-Morgan on the air-turntables http://t.co/Cg7iOQp2 #BBUKLIVE

So we can conclude that whilst he did eventually join in, he did ruin most of the evening for the rest of the HM's.

[Pyramid*]

Harry on BOTS: "I don't Louise is a bit think.. I think she's 100% thick"

Looks like Jay and Anton were pretty spot on with how they interpreted Harry's comments

that was on BBBOTS.... it was NOT however what was said when Harry was in the house.

Let's deal with facts. ;)

[Vicky.]

So we can conclude that whilst he did eventually join in, he did ruin most of the evening for the rest of the HM's.

Funny, the only ones who seem to be bothered are Jay and Louise. Why were they so bothered about him taking time out...if they were so pissed with him?

He didnt appear to ruin the party for Alex and Tom. Which is whats most important ;)

Also BBUKLive: 2223: There's an icy atmosphere between Jay and Louise and Aaron. The couple are avoiding him, and vice versa #BBUK suggests it was not just aaron causing this 'atmosphere' anyway...

[MachoPoodle]

No?
-cut-
So we can conclude that whilst he did eventually join in, he did ruin most of the evening for the rest of the HM's.

Excellent summary, thanks for posting it!

[In the Drunk Tank]

To be fair even with the argument Tom and Alex still went on about how it was the best birthday ever and what a great day they'd had :laugh:

[Vicky.]

To be fair even with the argument Tom and Alex still went on about how it was the best birthday ever and what a great day they'd had :laugh:

Exactly.

So the Aaron ruined their day argument just doesnt hold up. Yet people keep insisting that that was the case :D

[Pyramid*]

Funny, the only ones who seem to be bothered are Jay and Louise. Why were they so bothered about him taking time out...if they were so pissed with him?

He didnt appear to ruin the party for Alex and Tom. Which is whats most important ;)

Also BBUKLive: 2223: There's an icy atmosphere between Jay and Louise and Aaron. The couple are avoiding him, and vice versa #BBUK suggests it was not just aaron causing this 'atmosphere' anyway...

Like I said earlier: if the pair of them wouldn't have been so sneaky, sly, and conniving: the situation would not have arisen for their to have been an atmosphere in the first place.

They started in - and it seems - they are the ones continuing it as well.

Guilty consciences - they aint have a buggar eh! :D

[Incensed]

Funny, the only ones who seem to be bothered are Jay and Louise. Why were they so bothered about him taking time out...if they were so pissed with him?

He didnt appear to ruin the party for Alex and Tom. Which is whats most important ;)

Also BBUKLive: 2223: There's an icy atmosphere between Jay and Louise and Aaron. The couple are avoiding him, and vice versa #BBUK suggests it was not just aaron causing this 'atmosphere' anyway...


I'm merely presenting the facts, and the fact is that Aaron was in yet another strop. It was his friends birthday party but he couldn't put his displeasure at Jay and Louise buying them pressie's to one side. Instead he chose to be a miserable sod basically and I'm sure even if they haven't said so, they must have felt uncomfortable, anyone would.

Plus, I don't see it as 'taking time out' I see it as him being moody yet again :tongue: :joker:

[Pyramid*]

To be fair even with the argument Tom and Alex still went on about how it was the best birthday ever and what a great day they'd had :laugh:

Well said. So the only ones who the night mattered to - the birthday boy and girl - they had a great day!

the only ones moaning about it all the time in the house, are the two housemates who are riddled with guilt (as well as fear, that they've made themselves look very bad).... : ie; Jay and Louise!

[Vicky.]

I'm merely presenting the facts, and the fact is that Aaron was in yet another strop. It was his friends birthday party but he couldn't put his displeasure at Jay and Louise buying them pressie's to one side. Instead he chose to be a miserable sod basically and I'm sure even if they haven't said so, they must have felt uncomfortable, anyone would.

Plus, I don't see it as 'taking time out' I see it as him being moody yet again :tongue: :joker:

Exactly like Jay and Louise did :idc:

Aaron did not make a big deal over the present thing, he spoke to Jay about it(when asked), who told Louise, and THEY then decided to make it into a huge deal.

[Incensed]

Like I said earlier: if the pair of them wouldn't have been so sneaky, sly, and conniving: the situation would not have arisen for their to have been an atmosphere in the first place.

They started in - and it seems - they are the ones continuing it as well.

Guilty consciences - they aint have a buggar eh! :D

What for? Playing the game? Aaron had a chance to join in, he said no, which is fine, so why should they have to check with him if it's ok? :hugesmile:

[fingers]

Anyway the voters will decide, not forumites! :dance::joker:

[Pyramid*]

What for? Playing the game? Aaron had a chance to join in, he said no, which is fine, so why should they have to check with him if it's ok? :hugesmile:

Nope - for breaking a group agreement.

Shows they cannot be trusted.

I hope Tom understands when Jay and Louise also then break their agreement that they all made as a group too......

[Bill Carson]

If someone offers an olive leaf to you,it's always wise to accept,it takes a big heart to apologise (even if i disagree that Jay should apologise).aaron has a cold,cold unforgiving nature,it's as if he has never learned from lifes experiences.

[Incensed]

Nope - for breaking a group agreement.

Shows they cannot be trusted.

I hope Tom understands when Jay and Louise also then break their agreement that they all made as a group too......

I may have missed it, but where did Aaron agree to buying the present?

[Merry Mockmas]

What was also bad aswell is that Aaron actually does seem to get on with Alex in the house so what Jay and Louise done could have potentially made Aaron look spiteful in Alexs eyes which is what them two was hoping to achieve and they failed.

Also Aaron haters I understand that you dont like him but why do you keep pretending that his a passive agressive,if anything his more like Ben from last year in the fact that he takes the least agressive approach possible.

[MachoPoodle]

Also Aaron haters I understand that you dont like him but why do you keep pretending that his a passive agressive,if anything his more like Ben from last year in the fact that he takes the least agressive approach possible.

I don't hate Aaron, don't care enough to (also I don't think hate is possible unless you know someone personally). That aside, are you actually serious with the quote above?

"Put simply passive aggressive behaviour is silent aggression. It is where you are angry with someone but do not or cannot tell them. It may involve, shutting off verbally, it may involve angry looks, obvious changes in behaviour, being obstructive, sulky or stonewalling. It is characterized by an indirect resistance to the demands of others and an avoidance of direct confrontation, as in procrastinating, evading, pouting, or deliberately creating confusion.

A passive aggressive individual doesn't always exhibit outward anger or appear malicious. At first glance, the behaviour might appears unassuming, gracious and benevolent; underneath there may be manipulation - hence the term "Passive-Aggressive".

Passive aggression is a destructive pattern of behaviour that can be seen as a form of emotional abuse in relationships that bites away at trust between people.

It is a creation of negative energy in the atmosphere which is clear to those involved and can create immense hurt and pain to those on the receiving end.

It is a manifestation of emotions and feelings that are being repressed on a self-imposed need for either dependence, acceptance or further avoidance of conflict and is marked by a persistent pattern of negative attitudes and passive resistance in interpersonal or work situations.

It can either be covert (concealed and hidden) or overt (blatant and obvious)."

Source: http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/what-is-passive-aggressive-behaviour

[the-gaffer]

Apologising to Aaron and admitting he was wrong, oh yeah he's really playing the big man :rolleyes:
So let me make sure I'm getting this right, you can be an aggressive bully and threaten to 'kick people's head's in' so long as when you calm down you say sorry?

Are you sure you live in a civilised world or has your cage got Internet access?

[tomflint]

Twitter Quote:

BBUKLive: 2256: Aaron is telling Jay and Louise about how upsetting Faye and Jem's burping task was. #BBUKLIVE
08-11-2011 11:59 PM

Looks like they are speaking again...

[Pyramid*]

So let me make sure I'm getting this right, you can be an aggressive bully and threaten to 'kick people's head's in' so long as when you calm down you say sorry?

Are you sure you live in a civilised world or has your cage got Internet access?

I said it on another thread earlier on to MTVN- when you live with someone like that, the apology normally comes the morning after you've spent the night in A&E - and it's the same excuse that Jay uses all the time....it's the person that they've directed the violence at, it's THEIR fault that they made them hit them.

I am astounded that there are people on here actually defending Jay's behaviour because he said sorry. In fact, I'm quite disgusted that anyone would think that's acceptable.

[Dastardley]

I loved tonights show......I enjoyed watchng Jay's meltdown, whimpering under the towels like a baby. Frustrated at not being able to give Aaron a belt no doubt....lol.

Then Aaron, not one to miss an opportunity, on hearing Jay's favourite song being played....Jumps to his feet....kicks off his slippers and starts to boogie along to Jay's music...Ya gotta hand it to Aaron he knows how to stick the knife in....and twist it....Way to go Aaron!! :joker:

[jill]

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/ it's the newest video: "Jay and Aaron make up" although I'm not sure if Aaron's fully accepted his apology yet :suspect:

Say what you like about Jay but I think this shows he is genuine and does want to make up, this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

Edit - Youtube vid:

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i agree with your quote in respect of Jay, he is a normal lad & very genuine & big brother u should have made Aron apoloise for all the past sulk,s & black mood,s he is acting out a new way to make him win & thats makeing Jay lose his temper,as his plan all went wrong, he a sad man acting like a spoilt brat ,he is causeing a very bad Atmosphere in house for ppl to enjoy the last few days ,by doing this he takes away the fun side of the other housemates ,A DECEITFUL person ,funny how indian food never gave him problems too night,but disagreed with him last week,,:devil:

[billy123]

I dont know why Jay bothers with the idiot any more he is so rude and obnoxious.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Are you sure you live in a civilised world or has your cage got Internet access?


I am astounded that there are people on here actually defending Jay's behaviour because he said sorry. In fact, I'm quite disgusted that anyone would think that's acceptable.

Is there really any need for this? Fed up of people being demeaning towards others because they have a different point of view

[kisywisy]

Nope - for breaking a group agreement.

Shows they cannot be trusted.

I hope Tom understands when Jay and Louise also then break their agreement that they all made as a group too......

would you agree that aaron cannot be trusted for breaking the group's agreement regarding face to face nominations??

[kisywisy]

i agree with your quote in respect of Jay, he is a normal lad & very genuine & big brother u should have made Aron apoloise for all the past sulk,s & black mood,s he is acting out a new way to make him win & thats makeing Jay lose his temper,as his plan all went wrong, he a sad man acting like a spoilt brat ,he is causeing a very bad Atmosphere in house for ppl to enjoy the last few days ,by doing this he takes away the fun side of the other housemates ,A DECEITFUL person ,funny how indian food never gave him problems too night,but disagreed with him last week,,:devil:

ooh!! i missed that :)

[flamingGalah!]

I wish people would give that sappy comment a rest! what do you think hes going to do kick through your tv screens and beat the living delights out of you. Have a word with yourselves!



And the other comment yes it has nothing to do with BB anyone can say anything about the hms.:nono:


Jay has said HIMSELF that he gets into lots of fights on the outside... He is the sort of bloke that loves to end a night out with a shag & a fight...

I dont know why Jay bothers with the idiot any more he is so rude and obnoxious.

Yes, Tom is indeed very rude & obnoxious. I'd actually add bitchy to that too... :D

[Julseyone]

He received a warning from BB and I think Ive read this is his 3rd one, so he has to try and make up but you can see he is genuine about it.