aaron did not split the money

[Marcus.]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2011/11/14/big-brother-s-jay-mckray-is-people-s-winner-72703-29772955/

[pegson123]

untill i hear it from aaron why would i believe jays mum

[Kate!]

Have read the article.

couple of points.

Jay's mum declares him the people's champion. Oh well, he must be then!

Have Jay or Alex shared their money, I think not? Give it up.

[Suze]

untill i hear it from aaron why would i believe jays mum

Ditto. She's comes across very sour :joker: Aaron's only just won the money, he hasn't had much time to even think anything through yet no matter what.

To Jay's mum if you read here. Aaron won, your son didn't you need to get over it :laugh2:

[Pyramid*]

already a thread with this all on it.

[Roy Mars III]

'The People's winner' :joker:

[karezza]

Is Jay's mum proud of her disgusting son's disgusting behaviour?

[Angus]

untill i hear it from aaron why would i believe jays mum

Yet it goes on to say that "Jay pocketed £15,000" - so clearly he didn't share his winnings! Funny how we only ever get half the story when it concerns Aaron, anything to put him in a bad light. No wonder Jay is the way he is with a mother like that - must have had him when she was about 14 and dragged him up.

No love, he's not the people's winner, he's the lowlife chav's winner.

[Angus]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2011/11/14/big-brother-s-jay-mckray-is-people-s-winner-72703-29772955/


Neither did Jay:rolleyes:

[Samuel.]

“In the hotel afterwards we had five or six security guards saying there had been death threats made to Aaron.”

Seriously? Because he won a reality TV show? :bored:

[Kazelle]

I don't get why Jay's mum is doing interviews.

He's out now, he's a big, big boy, mummy needs to back away and allow her 6ft 4, 27 year old son to speak for himself.:blush:

[Suze]

“In the hotel afterwards we had five or six security guards saying there had been death threats made to Aaron.”

Seriously? Because he won a reality TV show? :bored:

Theyn they were probably made by .... nope I won't finish that sentence ;)

[Marcus.]

“In the hotel afterwards we had five or six security guards saying there had been death threats made to Aaron.”

Seriously? Because he won a reality TV show? :bored:

yeah why have death theats because aaron one they who did that is stuiped

[Angus]

“In the hotel afterwards we had five or six security guards saying there had been death threats made to Aaron.”

Seriously? Because he won a reality TV show? :bored:

Sadly the demographic that Channel 5 is trying to attract is mostly thick, stupid chavs who can't sort fact from fiction. I thought it was appalling that Aaron felt so unsafe during his interview with Brian - the moment he had dreamt of was completely ruined by BB's inability to control the rabble. No wonder they supported Jay - they are probably used to settling all frustrations and setbacks with their fists.

[Suze]

I don't get why Jay's mum is doing interviews.

He's out now, he's a big, big boy, mummy needs to back away and allow her 6ft 4, 27 year old son to speak for himself.:blush:

She is probably annoyed her campaign through Ant and Dec especially, didn't work :laugh2:

[Kazanne]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2011/11/14/big-brother-s-jay-mckray-is-people-s-winner-72703-29772955/

You can see where Jaye got his lying ways from,bitter woman needs to eff off and give it a rest

[Kazelle]

“In the hotel afterwards we had five or six security guards saying there had been death threats made to Aaron.”

Seriously? Because he won a reality TV show? :bored:


LOL Ridiculous isn't it!

It's a shame some people have nothing more to worry about. There's alot of important issues in the world to get so passionate and upset about, than who the hell wins BB:hugesmile:

[Pyramid*]

Yet it goes on to say that "Jay pocketed £15,000" - so clearly he didn't share his winnings! Funny how we only ever get half the story when it concerns Aaron, anything to put him in a bad light. No wonder Jay is the way he is with a mother like that - must have had him when she was about 14 and dragged him up.

No love, he's not the people's winner, he's the lowlife chav's winner.

Angus, I've used your post above in another thread on the same subject - it proves the point excellently as to how things are twisted beyond belief in some sad attempt to besmirch Aaron.

[Vicky.]

Jay’s mum Susan Harding, from Ouston, County Durham,


OMG. She lives in my village :bored:

I knew Jay was from Bensham...but I didnt realise his mother lived near me. Theres literally only about 6 streets here too...watch her turn out to be a neighbour :bored:

[alex_front2]

Sadly the demographic that Channel 5 is trying to attract is mostly thick, stupid chavs who can't sort fact from fiction. I thought it was appalling that Aaron felt so unsafe during his interview with Brian - the moment he had dreamt of was completely ruined by BB's inability to control the rabble. No wonder they supported Jay - they are probably used to settling all frustrations and setbacks with their fists.

Agree, it's a chav demographic.

Glad he isn't sharing the money after the nasty way Jay treated him. :elephant::elephant:

[Angus]

She is probably annoyed her campaign through Ant and Dec especially, didn't work :laugh2:

No wonder he's such a vile, aggressive, obnoxious human being - she must have had him when she was in her early teens, and just let him do what the hell he liked - much easier and lazier to be a friend than a parent:bored:

[Suze]

yeah why have death theats because aaron one they who did that is stuiped

What gets me is that she 'felt the need' to mention it at all, as if she was proud of that fact. Makes you wonder than whose family/friends/fans the threats originated from, especially as she reckons her son should have won, so who would be peeved enough to make the threats?

[StraightEdge695]

its his money not theres...

[Suze]

Jay’s mum Susan Harding, from Ouston, County Durham,


OMG. She lives in my village :bored:

I knew Jay was from Bensham...but I didnt realise his mother lived near me. Theres literally only about 6 streets here too...watch her turn out to be a neighbour :bored:

:o :hug:

[Marcus.]

but have you read jay

But she said Jay had no hard feelings.

“He’s just a very humble guy,” she said.

“He was overwhelmed by the support he had when he came out.”

[Marcus.]

but have you read jay

But she said Jay had no hard feelings.

“He’s just a very humble guy,” she said.

“He was overwhelmed by the support he had when he came out.”

[Vicky.]

Should really wait a few weeks before slagging him off for not sharing the cash. I'm sure hes been quite busy recently.

[Suze]

Should really wait a few weeks before slagging him off for not sharing the cash. I'm sure hes been quite busy recently.

She put her foot in it anyway, by saying Aaron said they 'should' not 'would' share the money. Maybe she is miffed she will miss out on some of it :joker:
And Jay received even more public sympathy after Aaron went back on his promise to give him a share of his £50,000 winnings.

Susan said: “Aaron said they should split the prize money whichever of them won, but since then he’s reneged on his word.

[DoM-h]

"He's a very humble guy"?

'If I was on the outside I'd kick his head in' is what I remember Jay saying.

[Angus]

:o :hug:



Don't let her find out you were an Aaron supporter, she might send the lads around:eek:

[Jordan.]

And Alex is the fake dishonest one? :joker:

[armand.kay]

Lol she sounds more like a PR than a mother :/

[Pyramid*]

Jay’s mum Susan Harding, from Ouston, County Durham,


OMG. She lives in my village :bored:

I knew Jay was from Bensham...but I didnt realise his mother lived near me. Theres literally only about 6 streets here too...watch her turn out to be a neighbour :bored:

http://img1.funscrape.com/en/sympathy/42.jpg

[Tom]

Unless animals have mastered how to vote for BB, the winner of the public vote is the peoples champion, and that wasn't Jay. And what if he hasn't split the money? Its his money, he won it fair and square and is under no obligation to split it even if he said he would in the house.

Thats coming from someone who can't stand Aaron.

[karezza]

Jay's mum says her son hopes to have a career in TV. I can't wait to see him on Crimewatch.

[Tom]

Jay's mum says her son hopes to have a career in TV. I can't wait to see him on Crimewatch.

Billi from BB8 might give him a slot (so to speak) on his porn show. Probably about the best he can hope for really

[Pyramid*]

Billi from BB8 might give him a slot (so to speak) on his porn show. Probably about the best he can hope for really

He and Louise can get into scat porn....would be right up their....... errr....street!

[Vicky.]

:o :hug:

http://img1.funscrape.com/en/sympathy/42.jpg

:laugh3:

I bet I notice her mooching about all the ****ing time now.

Oddy enough, when she was first shown on TV Gav said she looked familiar. I'm guessing (since ouston only has like 2 pubs) that shes been out on the piss when he was or something.

[Suze]

Can you imagine if they had put her in the BB house instead of Jem :o Lest we forget that one of the prizes was dinner with her :suspect:

[Angus]

He and Louise can get into scat porn....would be right up their....... errr....street!

I think they'll find their mutual sh*t fetish is not something shared by even hard core porn lovers:bored:

[pegson123]

its not like u can just split 25 thous in cash. it takes time. he prolly got a cheque

[Black Dagger]

My mum could say I'm the real winner of Big Brother.... DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ****ING TRUE.

Give up Sue McKray.

Aaron > Jay.

And I doubt Jay/Alex have split the money.

[Cherie]

but have you read jay

But she said Jay had no hard feelings.

“He’s just a very humble guy,” she said.

“He was overwhelmed by the support he had when he came out.”

If there are no hard feelings why publicise that he didnt get the cash....lets see if OK TV pull this question out of the bag... bit disappointed in Aaron, but there may be extenuating circumstances as in Alex hasnt parted with her cash either...so he would be a fool to part with his...

[Suze]

So Jay's mum is called Harding, his first name is Justin, yet she refers to him as Jay though? So is he a McKray, a Waggott, or a Harding, or a Jay, a Justin, or a Jason? :laugh2:

THE MOLE IN THE HOLE - rehashed

Am I a Jason, a Justin, or Jay
Am I a Waggott, a Harding, or McKray
I'm so confused, I forget who I am.
I am a dick and I'm also a sham.

I get naked and shave my rim,
Write messages in blood, even though it's quite dim,
I sh*t in cig packets, and freeze the poo you see,
Just so I can save to put in Mark's tea

Yarg yarg, quarck quarck, heart shaped toast,
Loo, you're the thick chick I dig the most ,
Am I a Jason, a Justin, or Jay
Am I a Waggott, a Harding, or McKray
Am I a Jason, a Justin, or Jay
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.

[Angus]

If there are no hard feelings why publicise that he didnt get the cash....lets see if OK TV pull this question out of the bag... bit disappointed in Aaron, but there may be extenuating circumstances as in Alex hasnt parted with her cash either...so he would be a fool to part with his...

Apparently Jay isn't sharing, but why let that get in the way of some Aaron bashing?:bored:

[Pyramid*]

its not like u can just split 25 thous in cash. it takes time. he prolly got a cheque

Now someone refresh my memory here: what year and which winner was it who said it tooks weeks and weeks for BB to actually put the money into their bank account...... Rachel Rice? :conf:

[Brother Leon]

Jay's mum seems brilliant tbh.

[Pyramid*]

So Jay's mum is called Harding, his first name is Justin, yet she refers to him as Jay though? So is he a McKray, a Waggott, or a Harding, or a Jay, a Justin, or a Jason? :laugh2:

THE MOLE IN THE HOLE - rehashed

Am I a Jason a Justin, or Jay
Am I a Waggott a Harding, or McKray
I'm so confused, I forget who I am.
I am a dick and I'm also a sham.

I get naked and shave my rim,
Write messages in blood, even though it's quite dim,
I sh*t in cig packets, and freeze the poo you see,
Just so I can save to put in mark's tea

Yarg yarg, quarck quarck, heart shaped toast,
Loo, you're the thick chick I dig the most ,
Am I a Jason a Justin, or Jay
Am I a Waggott a Harding, or McKray
Am I a Jason a Justin, or Jay
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.
I am a dick and I act like a pr**k.


yes, he's definately a Dick. With a capital D.

:D

[parmnion]

Going by the comments on the article page, a lot of people love Jay.

[Angus]

Jay's mum seems brilliant tbh.

My sons would be mega embarrassed if I carried on the way she is doing. It's one thing to support your child, but quite another to try and muscle in on the 15 minutes of fame by spouting off garbage at every opportunity to anyone who will listen.

[Angus]

Jay's mum seems brilliant tbh.

My sons would be mega embarrassed if I carried on the way she is doing. It's one thing to support your child, but quite another to try and muscle in on their 15 minutes of fame by spouting off garbage at every opportunity to anyone who will listen:bored:

[flamingGalah!]

What a bitter silly old hag Sue McKray/Harding/Waggott is...

Her massive campaign failed, which she probably spent a fortune on :joker:

[Pyramid*]

My sons would be mega embarrassed if I carried on the way she is doing. It's one thing to support your child, but quite another to try and muscle in on the 15 minutes of fame by spouting off garbage at every opportunity to anyone who will listen.

Not to mention thinking his 'girlfriend' is lovely, when said girlfriend says on live tv that him wiping his arse on a pillowslip is really romantic.

Dear god.

[robb]

Well well well......and Aaron was SOOOO worried about how that 50,000 was going to be spilt evenly in the first place lol......a worthy merchant banker of a winner lol....

[Vicky.]

Going by the comments on the article page, a lot of people love Jay.

People champ. lmao

he lost by a country mile. just because you hired buses to bring every loser from newcastle to cheer him and boo aaron. Doesnt make jay the real winner.

jays mum is a sour piece of trash.

bragging about death threats and that why jay should of won. lmao.

jays mum tweeted celebs, got the cast of geordie shore to help her. supplied buses. and still he didnt win. and he lost by 20 percent



:o:o:o

[spintronic]

If this is true & Aaron did not split the winnings, I now have more respect for him than ever.

His next step should be claiming his 50k back of the **LOSERS** of the show.


And Jays Mum is an ignorant mic.:nono::nono::nono:

[Angus]

Well well well......and Aaron was SOOOO worried about how that 50,000 was going to be spilt evenly in the first place lol......a worthy merchant banker of a winner lol....

Did you read the earlier bit which said Jay isn't sharing his cash, and that affects the other 3 as well doesn't it?:bored: Or is it just Aaron you want to bash?

[parmnion]

Did you read the earlier bit which said Jay isn't sharing his cash, and that affects the other 3 as well doesn't it?:bored: Or is it just Aaron you want to bash?

where does it say that?

[Tregard]

If Jay was "The people's winner", surely he would've received the most votes?

[halfacrown]

It would be nice to think that Jay had learnt some life lessons in the BB house but with his mum choosing to rationalise his failure into the fantasy that he’s the 'People's Champion' I doubt it. Having skipped the basics like potty training, manners, respect, discipline and so forth, she still seems more concerned with Jay having a career as a celebrity, than with him turning out to be a decent human being. She’s nothing like the person C5 portrayed her as (i.e. ‘Jay’s hot mum’); in fact she seems a bit of a horror.

[spintronic]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2011/11/14/big-brother-s-jay-mckray-is-people-s-winner-72703-29772955/


Bet Jay regrets buying that watch now.

PMSL:bawling::bawling::xyxwave::bawling::bawling:

[thesheriff443]

there is a lot of anger on this forum!,
a grudge gets heavier the longer you carry it!

[pegson123]

do u know how long it takes to deal with 100 thousand dollars. its not like u can divvy it up in 10 minutes. u need bank accounts. cheques. cash bags. a plan. its not like u pull it out of the bank and carry it around untill u see the person next

she was prolly trying to get it between the eviction and bit on the side

[Pyramid*]

there is a lot of anger on this forum!,
a grudge gets heavier the longer you carry it!

Mostly from those who didn't like the fact Aaron won Big Brother.

:evilgrin:

[parmnion]

do u know how long it takes to deal with 100 thousand dollars. its not like u can divvy it up in 10 minutes. u need bank accounts. cheques. cash bags. a plan. its not like u pull it out of the bank and carry it around untill u see the person next

she was prolly trying to get it between the eviction and bit on the side

except he had it in his hands in a case..If he was a man of his word and not the slimeball I know he is, he would have held it aloft and shouted up to Jay that 20 grand of it was his.

[Pyramid*]

Bet Jay regrets buying that watch now.

PMSL:bawling::bawling::xyxwave::bawling::bawling:


Just think of the tattoos he could have got for £500!

silly man! he just didn't think did he!

[Pyramid*]

except he had it in his hands in a case..If he was a man of his word and not the slimeball I know he is, he would have held it aloft and shouted up to Jay that 20 grand of it was his.

yeah....and you believed that they had £50k sitting in a flimsy perspex case that Jay opened with an table knife.

:D

[parmnion]

yeah....and you believed that they had £50k sitting in a flimsy perspex case that Jay opened with an table knife.

:D

He could still have held it aloft if he was man enough..and not the devious cheat I know he is.

[Pyramid*]

He could still have held it aloft if he was man enough..and not the devious cheat I know he is.

What on earth are you talking about? So now you fault him because he didn't big it up by holding the case over his head in victory ? Deary me.


As for the second part of your sentence, since nothing has been formally declared by either Jay or Aaron.... you are jumping to conclusions.

[thesheriff443]

Mostly from those who didn't like the fact Aaron won Big Brother.

:evilgrin:

there is a fair amount comeing from aaron fans!

[Pyramid*]

there is a fair amount comeing from aaron fans!

I'd say there was a fair amount of reasoned debate coming from Aaron fans.

[parmnion]

I think you are jumping the gun, he only won on Friday. Your post sounds so desperate and you're clearly still hurting over Aaron's win.

I'm only bothered at aaron fans and their inability to see reason...knowing Aaron if he was splitting it, he would have made a big deal of it by now to show the country what a wonderful kind man he is...he hasn't though, cause he's a wanker of the highest order..A complete fake.

[Pyramid*]

I'm only bothered at aaron fans and their inability to see reason...knowing Aaron if he was splitting it, he would have made a big deal of it by now to show the country what a wonderful kind man he is...he hasn't though, cause he's a wanker of the highest order..A complete fake.

That's your opinion. Obviously you are in the minority. That's life.

[Vicky.]

except he had it in his hands in a case..If he was a man of his word and not the slimeball I know he is, he would have held it aloft and shouted up to Jay that 20 grand of it was his.

There are still tax issues involved.(and I dont actually think the cash in that case was real tbh, usually the winner is paid by cheque)

Even so, it would be sensible to consult a solicitor or something before dividing up that amount of cash.

Hopefully Aaron doesnt bother. What a tool jays mother is, expecting the first thing he does when he comes out the house to be splitting his winnings with her son :rolleyes:

[Lozzibear]

Aaron won... why should he end up with the same amount of money as Jay?? (provided the other 50k is also shared)...

Jay is disgusting... he is a vile human being... between you-know-whating in the fridge, and the aggressive manner he conducted himself... I hope Aaron watches how he threatened to 'kick his head in' and that seals the deal to not share it!

It's a bit premature to be doing interviews on Aaron not sharing the money (I don't think he should anyway) only a few days after winning... he has barely had time to see his son! Why would he be arrange to share the money already!

[halfacrown]

I'm only bothered at aaron fans and their inability to see reason...knowing Aaron if he was splitting it, he would have made a big deal of it by now to show the country what a wonderful kind man he is...he hasn't though, cause he's a wanker of the highest order..A complete fake.

In all honesty do you truly believe that you are best person to see things with balance and reason when it comes to Aaron? You are sounding like King Canute now, Aaron's popular and people like him. How can you possibly know what Aaron or anybody else is going to do next?

[Vicky.]

Aaron won... why should he end up with the same amount of money as Jay?? (provided the other 50k is also shared)...


Actually, if Aaron shares and the rest dont...Jay would end up with MORE than Aaron ;)

Aaron 30990
Jay 35k
Lou 4k
Alex 30k
Tom £10

[thesheriff443]

do you really think jay or arron would get this worked up if they where talking about you!

[Pyramid*]

Aaron won... why should he end up with the same amount of money as Jay?? (provided the other 50k is also shared)...

Jay is disgusting... he is a vile human being... between you-know-whating in the fridge, and the aggressive manner he conducted himself... I hope Aaron watches how he threatened to 'kick his head in' and that seals the deal to not share it!

It's a bit premature to be doing interviews on Aaron not sharing the money (I don't think he should anyway) only a few days after winning... he has barely had time to see his son! Why would he be arrange to share the money already!


Well said. I think it said much that Aaron said he intended spending the money on his son. Not on 'me and my son'... but on 'my son'.

He also said that if Faye won, he wouldn't expect her to spend the money on him, that he'd want her to spend it on herself - not on him.

If he was that selfish: he would put himself first always - he doesn't, and we saw that time and time again on the show.

Thoroughly decent human being Aaron is, no matter which way you look at it.

It says much that there is much ado by some on here about whether he should share the dosh or not: as if that was the be all and end all to winning the show.

It's not about the money: it's about the fact that Aaron happened to win, and some don't like that.

He'd have been happy, imo, if he'd won and not won a penny. Winning the show is most likely the best accolade for a die hard BB fan like Aaron.

[bartraml]

I'm so confused... they agreed to split the $50K that BB split from the $100K total, right?? When did anyone say that the winner was supposed to share the other $50k. Nowhere was it said that they were to split the $100K ----- Did I miss something? Every time they mentioned spitting the money they all said we each get $10K. Someone tell me when they ever said they'd split the entire prize fund???

[SoBig]

Aaron shouldn't share it. He won it fair and square. Why the hell would he give 20k to someone that he didn't even like? Would be foolish of him.

[Pyramid*]

Aaron shouldn't share it. He won it fair and square. Why the hell would he give 20k to someone that he didn't even like? Would be foolish of him.


I agree.

and not only foolish: it would be then regarded by some as being hypocritical of him - seeing as he made it clear what his feelings on Jay were.

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't: so on that basis alone - he should keep the full lot. He did win it fair and square (which is more than can be said of how BB and BNOTS treated him throughout the entire series)

[Suze]

I'm only bothered at aaron fans and their inability to see reason...knowing Aaron if he was splitting it, he would have made a big deal of it by now to show the country what a wonderful kind man he is...he hasn't though, cause he's a wanker of the highest order..A complete fake.

How many times are you going to have digs at other forum members in your posts?

As for Aaron splitting the money, reread Jay's mum's news item interview, she clearly states Aaron said Should, not would, share the money, so Aaron has no reason to, no actual pact was made, and Jay's mum decided to make it look like it was one sided and Jay said nothing or initiated it, as Jay himself wouldn't win anyway :joker: Plus there will be plenty to be made by Aaron to still decide whether to give the money if he wants to, but I now hope he doesn't, his son deserves it more than Jay, who can make his own money off the back of the show.

Aaron should give the money to his son as he intends to, I am sure you were always going on about his son, so when Aaron decided to give the money to him, you still go on about it? and still call Aaron nasty, filthy, words/names.

[Jords]

He doesnt have to, he won at the end of the day! Pretty certain Jay wouldnt split it.

[SoBig]

I'm only bothered at aaron fans and their inability to see reason...knowing Aaron if he was splitting it, he would have made a big deal of it by now to show the country what a wonderful kind man he is...he hasn't though, cause he's a wanker of the highest order..A complete fake.
Dude don't even bother with them. Some of his fans act like he is their child or something and that they need protect him from the big bad bully. Some of them come up with every excuse in the book for him. Thats just the way it is. Just let them be.

***I'm not attacking housemate's fans***

[SoBig]

He doesnt have to, he won at the end of the day! Pretty certain Jay wouldnt split it.
No way in hell Jay would of. I don't expect him to share his 15k either.

[Angus]

Actually, if Aaron shares and the rest dont...Jay would end up with MORE than Aaron ;)

Aaron 30990
Jay 35k
Lou 4k
Alex 30k
Tom £10

Yes, but "the rest" includes Jay so if he's not going to share with the other three, then why should Aaron share with Jay?

[Pyramid*]

Dude don't even bother with them. Some of his fans act like he is their child or something and that they need protect him from the big bad bully. Some of them come up with every excuse in the book for him. Thats just the way it is. Just let them be.

***I'm not attacking housemate's fans***

You may not be attacking in the classic sense, but it's pretty close to being considered antagonistic I'd say.

Not to worry...... if Aaron fans want to defend him, they are quite within their rights to do so.

It's called being supportive.

[Pyramid*]

Dude don't even bother with them. Some of his fans act like he is their child or something and that they need protect him from the big bad bully. Some of them come up with every excuse in the book for him. Thats just the way it is. Just let them be.

***I'm not attacking housemate's fans***

No way in hell Jay would of. I don't expect him to share his 15k either.


dont these two posts of yours, contradict one another.... :conf:

[SoBig]

Another thing. Big Brother was wrong to not give the winner the full 100k. They all signed up for winner getting 100k. By doing this nonsense, whats to stop BB from only giving the winner 1k or something like that next time?

[Pyramid*]

Another thing. Big Brother was wrong to not give the winner the full 100k. They all signed up for winner getting 100k. By doing this nonsense, whats to stop BB from only giving the winner 1k or something like that next time?

Not necessarily so. Remember Eugene. Remember the year that the prize money went down and down.

BB's rules I'm afraid. Not that I agree with them, but that's the way it is.

[SoBig]

dont these two posts of yours, contradict one another.... :conf:
No. I was talking in general about some Aaron fans in the first post.

[Pyramid*]

No. I was talking in general about some Aaron fans in the first post.

but this thread is specifically about the split in the Winnings money -and that's where you have contradicted yourself - unless of course, your first post wasn't discussing the topic of conversation.

[spintronic]

Just think of the tattoos he could have got for £500!

silly man! he just didn't think did he!

I think his more pissed at the fact that £500 buys about 100 ladyboys in Thailand

[SoBig]

Not necessarily so. Remember Eugene. Remember the year that the prize money went down and down.

BB's rules I'm afraid. Not that I agree with them, but that's the way it is.
Thats wrong. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

[Niamh.]

Another thing. Big Brother was wrong to not give the winner the full 100k. They all signed up for winner getting 100k. By doing this nonsense, whats to stop BB from only giving the winner 1k or something like that next time?

Yeah, I ****ing hate when they mess with the prize fund. You go in competing for a 100k and then they give away half of the money a week before the final :bored:

[SoBig]

but this thread is specifically about the split in the Winnings money -and that's where you have contradicted yourself - unless of course, your first post wasn't discussing the topic of conversation.

It wasn't.

[SoBig]

Yeah, I ****ing hate when they mess with the prize fund. You go in competing for a 100k and then they give away half of the money a week before the final :bored:
Right. Its dead wrong.

[Lozzibear]

Actually, if Aaron shares and the rest dont...Jay would end up with MORE than Aaron ;)

Aaron 30990
Jay 35k
Lou 4k
Alex 30k
Tom £10

Yeah, but that is why I said in brackets, provided the other 50k is shared... So if it was a straight split, it would be...

Aaron - £35k
Jay - £35k
Louise - £10k
Alex - £10k
Tom - £10k

If it is the 30k and 20k split, then it would be...

Aaron - £40k
Jay - 30k
and then the rest with £10k.

[Pyramid*]

Thats wrong. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

I'm not disagreeing.... I'm simply saying that it's their show, their rules: and as they say all the time, as it's in each of the HM's contract - BB can change the rules at any time.

If they decided to reverse the winnings and give it to the runner up; they could do that I'm sure .... as long as they have their backsides covered by the small print.

[spintronic]

He could still have held it aloft if he was man enough..and not the devious cheat I know he is.

Let me educate you parmnion.

*Prize* money is for the *winner*.

If Jay wasn't the slime-cheat-lowlife-pig I know he is, he would have *NOT* spent £500 with money that is technically *NOT* his.

And he would give the remaining £14,500 *BACK* to it's *RIGHTFUL* owner.

[Pyramid*]

I think his more pissed at the fact that £500 buys about 100 ladyboys in Thailand


:D

850 if he went to Vietnam.

[SoBig]

I'm not disagreeing.... I'm simply saying that it's their show, their rules: and as they say all the time, as it's in each of the HM's contract - BB can change the rules at any time.

If they decided to reverse the winnings and give it to the runner up; they could do that I'm sure .... as long as they have their backsides covered by the small print.
:bored:

[MTVN]

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money

[SoBig]

Let me educate you parmnion.

*Prize* money is for the *winner*.

If Jay wasn't the slime-cheat-lowlife-pig I know he is, he would have *NOT* spent £500 with money that is technically *NOT* his.

And he would give the remaining £14,500 *BACK* to it's *RIGHTFUL* owner.
haha good point. All the money that they have should be Aaron's.

[Pyramid*]

:bored:


Just pointing the facts out Sobig, just pointing out the facts.

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to avoid the fact that neither Jay or Aaron have said one word about whether this is true or not: yet it is Jay's mother who is declaring in public, that Jay didn't split his share as HE agreed to do -as detailed in the news article.

[Pyramid*]

haha good point. All the money that they have should be Aaron's.

yeah..... we agree! :dance:

[SoBig]

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money

If you were in Aaron's shoes. Would you have spilt the money? And if Jay had won, do you think he would of split the money with Aaron?

[MTVN]

Just pointing the facts out Sobig, just pointing out the facts.



Can't help but feel that people are deciding to avoid the fact that neither Jay or Aaron have said one word about whether this is true or not: yet it is Jay's mother who is declaring in public, that Jay didn't split his share as HE agreed to do -as detailed in the news article.

Hence my use of "allegedly" :wink:

[Lozzibear]

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money

But, surely, most people would be reasonable and think 3 days after the final is a bit soon to be sharing the money all ready? He said on OKtv! that it has been a busy weekend, and he has only seen his son for a short time... Give the guy some time to come down from his high from winning! Has Jay and Alex shared out their winnings yet?

I don't think Aaron should, or will, split the money though. I hope he doesn't! He won it fair and square!

[MTVN]

If you were in Aaron's shoes. Would you have spilt the money? And if Jay had won, do you think he would of split the money with Aaron?

If I was in Aaron's shoes I wouldn't have made the agreement in the first place! But if I had done so, then I would honour it yes, and I'd like to believe Jay would do the same

[Vicky.]

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money

The cheque wont even have cleared yet, and he has had more pressing things to do that fannying around splitting money.

Jay still having his £15000...shows that he also has so far gone back on his deal.

Aaron should split nothing until the first deal is done anyway, as if he splits and the others dont, Jay ends up better off than the winner.

Put simply...I'm sure Jay and Aaron(and the others) are more than capable of sorting this out between themselves. Without Mrs Mutton flapping her gums about something thats nowt to do with her :bored:

[MTVN]

But, surely, most people would be reasonable and think 3 days after the final is a bit soon to be sharing the money all ready? He said on OKtv! that it has been a busy weekend, and he has only seen his son for a short time... Give the guy some time to come down from his high from winning! Has Jay and Alex shared out their winnings yet?

I don't think Aaron should, or will, split the money though. I hope he doesn't! He won it fair and square!

The cheque wont even have cleared yet, and he has had more pressing things to do that fannying around splitting money.

Jay still having his £15000...shows that he also has so far gone back on his deal.

Aaron should split nothing until the first deal is done anyway, as if he splits and the others dont, Jay ends up better off than the winner.

Put simply...I'm sure Jay and Aaron(and the others) are more than capable of sorting this out between themselves. Without Mrs Mutton flapping her gums about something thats nowt to do with her :bored:

I'm happy to give him time and wait till we know all the facts, but right now the only comment that's been made about the deal is this one saying that Aaron has gone back on the deal, so we just have to go by what we've got atm

[Vicky.]

If I was in Aaron's shoes I wouldn't have made the agreement in the first place! But if I had done so, then I would honour it yes, and I'd like to believe Jay would do the same

See this is something else...

We were shown a clip of them talking about splitting it. Whos to say that later in the day they didnt have a change of heart and decide that whoever wins..wins?

Again, relying only on what BB show us, which lets be honest...throughout the show, hasnt really tallied up.

[Pyramid*]

The cheque wont even have cleared yet, and he has had more pressing things to do that fannying around splitting money.

Jay still having his £15000...shows that he also has so far gone back on his deal.

Aaron should split nothing until the first deal is done anyway, as if he splits and the others dont, Jay ends up better off than the winner.

Put simply...I'm sure Jay and Aaron(and the others) are more than capable of sorting this out between themselves. Without Mrs Mutton flapping her gums about something thats nowt to do with her :bored:

:laugh3::laugh3:

I agree. If there is any real debate over sharing:then the first promise has to be enacted upon, before Aaron should be expected to fulfill the 2nd promise.

[newtobbuk]

Can someone back up and explain this... I'm fairly sure I watched every single episode of the series, and I never saw Aaron claim he would share any of the final-winner's prize money with Jay. How do people know this even happened? YouTube clip please?

THe only sharing I saw mentioned was in the 50% twist in the final week, where everyone promised to share that equally.

[Vicky.]

I'm happy to give him time and wait till we know all the facts, but right now the only comment that's been made about the deal is this one saying that Aaron has gone back on the deal, so we just have to go by what we've got atm

Which is why Jays mother is being criticized. As she hasnt even gave the time for the 'deal' to be honoured before shouting her mouth off.

[Pyramid*]

I'm happy to give him time and wait till we know all the facts, but right now the only comment that's been made about the deal is this one saying that Aaron has gone back on the deal, so we just have to go by what we've got atm


and what about the mother's comment about Jay's £15,000 as per the newpaper article. Or aren't you including that, because that's something else we have to 'go on' atm. Doing one but not the other shows a degree of unreasonability about it.

[Lozzibear]

I'm happy to give him time and wait till we know all the facts, but right now the only comment that's been made about the deal is this one saying that Aaron has gone back on the deal, so we just have to go by what we've got atm

I don't think it is a case of 'what we've got atm' at all... Yes, atm we have Aaron allegedly not sharing the money... but it is too soon to expect him to, so why does it matter if he has, or hasn't, just now? You said your self you will give him time, so it should be irrelevant that he hasn't just now when he hasn't had time...

Some people, like me, are annoyed at Jay's mum for coming out with all this so soon... it is unreasonable to expect Jay to have the money now, even if Aaron does plan on sharing it.

Have Jay and Alex shared their money?

[Vicky.]

and what about the mother's comment about Jay's £15,000 as per the newpaper article. Or aren't you including that, because that's something else we have to 'go on' atm. Doing one but not the other shows a degree of unreasonability about it.

Yeah does seem highly hypocritical moaning on about Aaron not splitting his money with jay, while at the same time saying Jay did NOT honour his own deal with the rest (yet)either :joker:

[Ammi]

I haven't read anything about this..what is Jay 28? ish.......how humiliating that his mum feels the need to talk for him....If Jay has something to say, he'll say it..otherwise she needs to pipe down and do some knitting

[MTVN]

See this is something else...

We were shown a clip of them talking about splitting it. Whos to say that later in the day they didnt have a change of heart and decide that whoever wins..wins?

Again, relying only on what BB show us, which lets be honest...throughout the show, hasnt really tallied up.

It's possible but doesn't fit with what his mother has said here

Which is why Jays mother is being criticized. As she hasnt even gave the time for the 'deal' to be honoured before shouting her mouth off.

But she seems to think it's already been decided that the deal won't go ahead.. it seems odd that people are happy to criticise her but not to consider the possibility that what she says might be true

and what about the mother's comment about Jay's £15,000 as per the newpaper article. Or aren't you including that, because that's something else we have to 'go on' atm. Doing one but not the other shows a degree of unreasonability about it.

She didn't say that, the article said that; that was technically his official winnings so they're not wrong in stating that. The article is ambiguous as to whether he has stuck to his deal or not, but Jay's Mum explicitly states that Aaron has gone back on the agreement

[Pyramid*]

Yeah does seem highly hypocritical moaning on about Aaron not splitting his money with jay, while at the same time saying Jay did NOT honour his own deal with the rest (yet)either :joker:

that's the bit I'm not getting. I don't mind debating as long as there is an honest and candid consideration of the situation as we are aware of: but to completely avoid the very obvious that Jay is being portrayed by his own mother - as being exactly the same as Aaron - yet somehow, only Aaron gets the flack..... it's hilarious! :D

[MTVN]

Yeah does seem highly hypocritical moaning on about Aaron not splitting his money with jay, while at the same time saying Jay did NOT honour his own deal with the rest (yet)either :joker:

She doesn't say that though, she makes no mention of any deal that Jay had

[Pyramid*]

It's possible but doesn't fit with what his mother has said here



But she seems to think it's already been decided that the deal won't go ahead.. it seems odd that people are happy to criticise her but not to consider the possibility that what she says might be true



She didn't say that, the article said that; that was technically his official winnings so they're not wrong in stating that. The article is ambiguous as to whether he has stuck to his deal or not, but Jay's Mum explicitly states that Aaron has gone back on the agreement


Ah right. so let's go back to the beginning here then. The article is ambigious. Okay, I'll go with that - so because it is ambigous, you are ignoring what it says about Jay and his £15,000.

But when the same ambigious assumptions are made abour Aaron and his winnings.... you don't ignore that - yet you did when it is related to Jay - or indeed, his mother - who is the one the newspaper quotes: which is why she is being discussed and given flack. We don't know what she says is true either way: about Jay OR about Aaron.

I think that's highly hypocritical. In fact, it IS highly hypocritical. and to that end, there is absolutely no point in debating further with you - as you very much are on a one course direction - and showing complete inability to apply the same rules to one person, as you do another.

[MTVN]

Ah right. so let's go back to the beginning here then. The article is ambigious. Okay, I'll go with that - so because it is ambigous, you are ignoring what it says about Jay and his £15,000.

But when the same ambigious assumptions are made abour Aaron and his winnings.... you don't ignore that - yet you did when it is related to Jay.

I think that's highly hypocritical. In fact, it IS highly hypocritical. and to that end, there is absolutely no point in debating further with you - as you very much are on a one course direction - and showing complete inability to apply the same rules to one person, as you do another.

Nope. You've misunderstood.

Jay's Mum makes an explicit statement that Aaron has gone back on his deal. Nowhere is there anything said about Jay's deal, and his Mum doesn't even mention his prize money

I trust that's corrected you :)

[Angus]

Yeah, I ****ing hate when they mess with the prize fund. You go in competing for a 100k and then they give away half of the money a week before the final :bored:

It was pretty obvious that it was done because they suspected Aaron would win, and were determined he wouldn't get the £100k:bored:

[Pyramid*]

Nope. You've misunderstood.

Jay's Mum makes an explicit statement that Aaron has gone back on his deal. Nowhere is there anything said about Jay's deal, and his Mum doesn't even mention his prize money

I trust that's corrected you :)

Please refrain from being patronising MTVN, there really is no need. thank you.

I would like you to show me where Jay and/or Aaron has confirmed anything regarding the money. Not some heresay from Jay's mother - who let's be honest, is whoring this as far as she possibly can. The way she's going on and has been, she's excelling Kerry Katona's mother. In fact, she could probably give her lessons!!

until then: consider your posts on this subject ignored.

[Vicky.]

But she seems to think it's already been decided that the deal won't go ahead.. it seems odd that people are happy to criticise her but not to consider the possibility that what she says might be true



Surely Jay himself would have said something if this was the case.

Its just his mother sticking her nose in places it doesnt belong, its nowt to do with her. If Jay had a problem, I doubt he would be backwards in coming forwards about it.

If anything, her coming out with all this bollocks, might make Aaron less likely to split. Why should he when his character has already been tarnished about it(again) before hes even had a chance to sort it?

Foot in mouth syndrome, I think she has...

[MTVN]

Please refrain from being patronising MTVN, there really is no need. thank you.

I would like you to show me where Jay and/or Aaron has confirmed anything regarding the money. Not some heresay from Jay's mother - who let's be honest, is whoring this as far as she possibly can. The way she's going on and has been, she's excelling Kerry Katona's mother. In fact, she could probably give her lessons!!

until then: consider your posts on this subject ignored.

Don't tell me not to be patronising when you've just been very demeaning in calling me a hypocrite :nono:

Can't be bothered to address the second part of your post because you've clearly just ignored my points :)

[Ammi]

Surely Jay himself would have said something if this was the case.
Its just his mother sticking her nose in places it doesnt belong, its nowt to do with her. If Jay had a problem, I doubt he would be backwards in coming forwards about it.

If anything, her coming out with all this bollocks, might make Aaron less likely to split. Why should he when his character has already been tarnished about it(again) before hes even had a chance to sort it?

Foot in mouth syndrome, I think she has...

Exactly...it's not even Jay talking....how humiliating his mum feels the need to speak for him...she needs to go get the dinner on

[Vicky.]

She doesn't say that though, she makes no mention of any deal that Jay had

When if Jay had already honoured his deal, while Aaron didnt...I imagine she would have been the first to mention it ;)

Shes just jumping the gun. The whole article is ridiculous, from her claiming Jay is the real winner, to her accusing Aaron of stuff there hasnt even been time to sort yet.

Throughout the series she has come across as a desperate tool tbh. I think shes just bitter that her very organised campaign did not work.

[Pyramid*]

Surely Jay himself would have said something if this was the case.

Its just his mother sticking her nose in places it doesnt belong, its nowt to do with her. If Jay had a problem, I doubt he would be backwards in coming forwards about it.

If anything, her coming out with all this bollocks, might make Aaron less likely to split. Why should he when his character has already been tarnished about it(again) before hes even had a chance to sort it?

Foot in mouth syndrome, I think she has...


I'd say she is doing more damage to Jay's credibility (I know, even that's a contradiction in terms), but she is.

It was much the same with all her desperate tweets to Cheryl Tweedy, Ant and Dec etc.

She's going to end up costing him a lot of fans who will be sick to the back teeth of her interferring and causing more trouble when neither Jay or Aaron have spoken up about this.

God good, the woman could not be more bitter if she tried - and it is so incredibly obvious that she is as pissed off to Hell that her son didn't win.

Maybe she should spend more time teaching him to be less aggressive, less violent and have better toilet habits: then perhaps he'd be able to make a decent living, instead of whoring himself on reality type tv shows. You'd think he 'd get the message by now: he's a bad 'un and 2 reality tv shows later - should start homing that message to him. (and her)

[MTVN]

Surely Jay himself would have said something if this was the case.

Its just his mother sticking her nose in places it doesnt belong, its nowt to do with her. If Jay had a problem, I doubt he would be backwards in coming forwards about it.

If anything, her coming out with all this bollocks, might make Aaron less likely to split. Why should he when his character has already been tarnished about it(again) before hes even had a chance to sort it?

Foot in mouth syndrome, I think she has...

But she seems to think Jay isn't bothered, I admit that does sound odd when we're talking about such a large amount of money though. I'm happy to wait until we know the full story, but it does seem to me that the deals not going to go ahead, for whatever reason.

[Vicky.]

Personally I think she wants to launch her own media career off the back of her sons 'success'

[Vicky.]

But she seems to think Jay isn't bothered, I admit that does sound odd when we're talking about such a large amount of money though. I'm happy to wait until we know the full story, but it does seem to me that the deals not going to go ahead, for whatever reason.

If thats the that case, then why is SHE bothered?

[Pyramid*]

Personally I think she wants to launch her own media career off the back of her sons 'success'

She could be the modern day version of "Witchypoo".

:D

[Ammi]

But she seems to think Jay isn't bothered, I admit that does sound odd when we're talking about such a large amount of money though. I'm happy to wait until we know the full story, but it does seem to me that the deals not going to go ahead, for whatever reason.

...I can actually believe that..he wasn't that fussed on spending the £500 on Tom...because he wasn't used to having that sort of money..and now I guess he's doing publicity and photo shoots and has more money coming in anyway...they have the time of their life when they come out.....mum's probably p*ssed because he hasn't had time to text her...she's just trying to get Jay's attention

[bartraml]

Wow -- all this talk is crazy. I really enjoy the BBUK version-- in some ways more than the version we have in the US. I like the weekly vote going to the fans a lot. One thing about the US version is definitely better. The contracts are binding and the rules can not be altered at any point. We call that FRAUD and there's even a special commission set-up to patrol Game Show/ Reality Show Prize $$ Fraud. How do we know BB wasn't aware with all the previous vote percentages that Aaron was a shoe-in so they took half the money away from him and gave the others half?
Since there are no live feeds we have nothing but their word for anything. I know it's it their contract that BB can change the rules at anytime but isn't there a law against GRAND LARCENY in the UK????

[BBFanDan]

Jay's mom must be so bitter. Actually funny! Ah, reminds me she was trying to get replies from Cheryl Cole on Twitter...

Keep your money Aaron :)

[Ammi]

Wow -- all this talk is crazy. I really enjoy the BBUK version-- in some ways more than the version we have in the US. I like the weekly vote going to the fans a lot. One thing about the US version is definitely better. The contracts are binding and the rules can not be altered at any point. We call that FRAUD and there's even a special commission set-up to patrol Game Show/ Reality Show Prize $$ Fraud. How do we know BB wasn't aware with all the previous vote percentages that Aaron was a shoe-in so they took half the money away from him and gave the others half?
Since there are no live feeds we have nothing but their word for anything. I know it's it their contract that BB can change the rules at anytime but isn't there a law against GRAND LARCENY in the UK????

No. we're very laid back...a shake of the hand don't you know.......LOL

[Samuel.]

I doubt Jay or Jay's mum even know if the deals going to go ahead or not. Probably haven't even spoken to Aaron since the final. Jay's mum is most likely just assuming the worst.

[bartraml]

No. we're very laid back...a shake of the hand don't you know.......LOL

To clarify, I wasn't belittling British law or it's people --- just BBUK/Channel 5/Endemol

[Pyramid*]

Wow -- all this talk is crazy. I really enjoy the BBUK version-- in some ways more than the version we have in the US. I like the weekly vote going to the fans a lot. One thing about the US version is definitely better. The contracts are binding and the rules can not be altered at any point. We call that FRAUD and there's even a special commission set-up to patrol Game Show/ Reality Show Prize $$ Fraud. How do we know BB wasn't aware with all the previous vote percentages that Aaron was a shoe-in so they took half the money away from him and gave the others half?
Since there are no live feeds we have nothing but their word for anything. I know it's it their contract that BB can change the rules at anytime but isn't there a law against GRAND LARCENY in the UK????

Even better: in Scotland, word can be regarded as legally binding in some cases.

:D

[Ammi]

To clarify, I wasn't belittling British law or it's people --- just BBUK/Channel 5/Endemol

Are you talking about the changing of the prize fund to £50,000 for the winner?...I presume that comes under the 'BB can change the rules at any time and make it up as they go along...'...I honestly don't know what contract is signed by the H.M's regarding the actual prize money amount...but Aaron would do well to check that out

[bartraml]

Are you talking about the changing of the prize fund to £50,000 for the winner?...I presume that comes under the 'BB can change the rules at any time and make it up as they go along...'...I honestly don't know what contract is signed by the H.M's regarding the actual prize money amount...but Aaron would do well to check that out

Absolutely. How can there be any integrity when one side can change things midstream while the other may not? That's always been my only problem with the UK version. We may have insane taxes here but if we're hired for $100k they have to pay $100k. Also, in the US when you're on BB you get a stipend -- over $750.00 week for every week you're on a Reality-based game show. That way the network can't make money without paying all the contestants. That's US law -- I don't thing Endemol/CBS would pay if they didn't have to.

[Pyramid*]

Absolutely. How can there be any integrity when one side can change things midstream while the other may not? That's always been my only problem with the UK version. We may have insane taxes here but if we're hired for $100k they have to pay $100k. Also, in the US when you're on BB you get a stipend -- over $750.00 week for every week you're on a Reality-based game show. That way the network can't make money without paying all the contestants. That's US law -- I don't thing Endemol/CBS would pay if they didn't have to.


It is something that I DO agree is wrong. But clearly their lawyers have got it covered, otherwise they would not get away with it.

[Scotty07]

After the way he's been treated throughout the entire series and since he's come out and today's pathetic 5 minute winners interview on OKTV, he deserves the lot imo, whether he agreed to split it or not.

Either way, he's still the greatest ever housemate in BBUK history imo.

I think I might go outside now and set off some fireworks in my Aaron wins BB12 t-shirt.

:dance2::dance2::dance2:

[Pyramid*]

After the way he's been treated throughout the entire series and since he's come out and today's pathetic 5 minute winners interview on OKTV, he deserves the lot imo, whether he agreed to split it or not.

Either way, he's still the greatest ever housemate in BBUK history imo.

I think I might go outside now and set off some fireworks in my Aaron wins BB12 t-shirt.

:dance2::dance2::dance2:


Take some of my Tibbs Aaron Million Dollars to go buy a really expensive lot: in fact, use some of it to bring in a reputable Pyrotechnic company: if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing right.

:dance::dance:

[Ammi]

Absolutely. How can there be any integrity when one side can change things midstream while the other may not? That's always been my only problem with the UK version. We may have insane taxes here but if we're hired for $100k they have to pay $100k. Also, in the US when you're on BB you get a stipend -- over $750.00 week for every week you're on a Reality-based game show. That way the network can't make money without paying all the contestants. That's US law -- I don't thing Endemol/CBS would pay if they didn't have to.

..yes the changing of the prize fund was very shabby indeed. It's like being on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and on the last question, being told you'll only get half a million if you get it right, I assume they can do it, legally, I mean, but it was wrong and if I were Aaron I certainly would have a solicitor check it out...I would certainly be furious, if I was Aaron

[Pierre-loso]

Why is he walking away with 15 000 when he spent 500 on the watch ?????

[Pyramid*]

Why is he walking away with 15 000 when he spent 500 on the watch ?????

Because it was a stich up on BB's part from start to finish.

Because mammy is lying.

Because there is little truth in any of all of this 'who is getting what shares'.

You can bet that this was all done on BB's instructions, for nothing more than to bring in intrigue, arguments and having fans voting like crazy.

After all: BB plays the game too. ;)

[MTVN]

Why is he walking away with 15 000 when he spent 500 on the watch ?????

The article said his prize money was £15,000, which it was; it's just that he's already spent £500 of it

[parmnion]

His mum isn't saying he walked away with £15,000. The paper is.

[Pyramid*]

The article said his prize money was £15,000, which it was; it's just that he's already spent £500 of it

Given that he spend money he had not yet received, nope, it would make his prize money being reduced by the £500.

[MTVN]

His mum isn't saying he walked away with £15,000. The paper is.

Yep, his Mum never mentioned Jay's money

[parmnion]

After the way he's been treated throughout the entire series and since he's come out and today's pathetic 5 minute winners interview on OKTV, he deserves the lot imo, whether he agreed to split it or not.

Either way, he's still the greatest ever housemate in BBUK history imo.

I think I might go outside now and set off some fireworks in my Aaron wins BB12 t-shirt.

:dance2::dance2::dance2:

Don't leave the cats all alone.:nono:

[Pierre-loso]

The article said his prize money was £15,000, which it was; it's just that he's already spent £500 of it

The board on the wall said 14 500 if i remember correctly.

[Lozzibear]

I don't think Jay cares about Aaron splitting the money coz he knows that he wouldn't, if he had won.

[Marmalite]

Mrs Waggott reminds me of those big fat ugly American Mums who put their little daughters into those beauty pageants because they were never pretty enough to enter themselves so are now trying to live through their kids. Did she always wish to go into BB but never had the chance or given the opportunity so is now living the experience through her son or something?

She so needs to get over it. Aaron won fair and square. What part of this is a voting show and it was "vote who you want to win" this year not to evict does she not understand? .... So therefore Mrs Waggot, it's atually Aaron who was the peoples champion as he got the most votes, not Justin.

Also who the hell, and a mother at that, would boast over the fact that someone had death threats???? Is she for real??? And as previous poster said can Justin not speak for himself or does everything have to be said through his PR manager Mrs Sue Waggot, Inc. first?

Ridiculous women! Can she not just disappear now.... please!

[Lex]

LOL Ridiculous isn't it!

It's a shame some people have nothing more to worry about. There's alot of important issues in the world to get so passionate and upset about, than who the hell wins BB:hugesmile:

Agreed!...Like why has'nt my pensioner-winter-heating allowance come yet, when Maureen over the road got hers this morning!? :conf: :suspect: :joker:

Seriously though...How can even the lowest of lowlife's justify such cretinous behaviour?? :nono:...They disgust me!! :yuk:

[Pyramid*]

Agreed!...Like why has'nt my pensioner-winter-heating allowance come yet, when Maureen over the road got hers this morning!? :conf: :suspect: :joker:

Seriously though...How can even the lowest of lowlife's justify such cretinous behaviour?? :nono:...They disgust me!! :yuk:


PMSL..... It does have that same sort of comparison, I agree!

[Pyramid*]

The board on the wall said 14 500 if i remember correctly.

nah, the board said £15,000

[Suze]

Speaking of Jay's mum. I think as Vicky lives round the corner from her :o :D Vicky should get an interview for TIBBs :D ;)

[parmnion]

I'm assuming all forum rules about abusing family members of housemates has gone out the window today!!!

You should all be ashamed.

[Marmalite]

He could still have held it aloft if he was man enough..and not the devious cheat I know he is.


PMSL..... at you!

Coming from an Alex fan who, if you remember, sat mute when asked on BBOTs if they would still split the money fairly and with no confirmation yet that she's handed over 10,000 of the 30,000 that's was deposited into her bank account you sound extremely hypocritical.

So as a word of advice, I would check your fave Alex as well has Jay have stuck to their part of the bargain to hand over money to Aaron, Tom and Louise which they all swore on their mothers lives to do... don't you think?

Or do your blinkers not allow you to do that?

[parmnion]

PMSL..... at you!

Coming from an Alex fan who, if you remember, sat mute when asked on BBOTs if they would still split the money fairly and with no confirmation yet that she's handed over 10,000 of the 30,000 that's was deposited into her bank account you sound extremely hypocritical.

So as a word of advice, I would check your fave Alex as well has Jay have stuck to their part of the bargain to hand over money to Aaron, Tom and Louise which they all swore on their mothers lives to do... don't you think?

Or do your blinkers not allow you to do that?

Don't call me a hypocrite before you do a post search on me to see if I have defended Alex anywhere on her keeping the cash.

[MTVN]

I'm assuming all forum rules about abusing family members of housemates has gone out the window today!!!

You should all be ashamed.

I don't think that applies here tbf, she isn't a member of the forum and she's done an interview so is putting herself in the public eye :shrug:

[Marmalite]

Don't call me a hypocrite before you do a post search on me to see if I have defended Alex anywhere on her keeping the cash.


I know I won't find one because every post I've read from you has been trashing Aaron.

What I was meaning by calling you a hypocrite was before you call Aaron up on not sharing the money perhaps you should confirm that Alex (who you supported) and Jay have. If not then be fair to Aaron and include them in your comments as surely then they are just as bad for going back on their word?

[Pierre-loso]

nah, the board said £15,000

Well day 61 when Justin goes for a cry in the garden he walk past it and it says well nothing (because he hasn't put his name back on)+ 14 500 and Louise 3500 . i tried to make a screenshoot but there s seem to be a problem with paint on my computer.

[parmnion]

I know I won't find one because every post I've read from you has been trashing Aaron.

What I was meaning by calling you a hypocrite was before you call Aaron up on not sharing the money perhaps you should confirm that Alex (who you supported) and Jay have. If not then be fair to Aaron and include them in your comments as surely then they are just as bad for going back on their word?

Of course they would be, and if you look around you will see that I have said that Alex would be wrong if she kept the money because the hat thing was just a gimmick.So you can now take back the hypocrite comment.

So are you saying that Aaron would be wrong and treacherous if he doesn't go through with the deal he made with Jay to split the money £30-£20?


Infact look, here it is...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191356

[Marmalite]

Well day 61 when Justin goes for a cry in the garden he walk past it and it says well nothing (because he hasn't put his name back on)+ 14 500 and Louise 3500 . i tried to make a screenshoot but there s seem to be a problem with paint on my computer.


You are right they did change it to 14,500 and 3,500 as I remember seeing it and thinking they must have removed the 1,000 on presents from Jay and Louise's amount and changed the board during the night while they were sleeping.

[thesheriff443]

they all need to stick to the deal!

[Pyramid*]

Well day 61 when Justin goes for a cry in the garden he walk past it and it says well nothing (because he hasn't put his name back on)+ 14 500 and Louise 3500 . i tried to make a screenshoot but there s seem to be a problem with paint on my computer.

PMSL.

My sincere apologies to you Pierre, I am suitably corrected and apologise.

Which then takes us back to the very point you made then. Very well spotted.

[jet]

The big point for me is that Aaron, throughout the whole series, promoted himself as a man of principle. In his BOTS interview and OKTV tonight he talked again about his principles.
Aaron thought Jay was going to win...Jay was being cheered, and he was being booed. :shocked:So he brings up the idea of sharing the winners money, and they agree to do that and shake hands on it. A principled man would not go back on his word.
So is Aaron just principled when it suits Aaron to say he is principled? I have always thought so, and I maintain he is basically a fake. What is more, is he prepared to be shown as a fake and not what he portrayed himself on television to win votes?
He no longer needs votes, and he has the money. Where are his principles now?
If he DOES split the money with Jay, I will gladly say I was wrong about him. I have no problem doing that.

[King Gizzard]

Dude..just let it go

[flamingGalah!]

It must really grate you that he won :D :xyxwave:

[BB_Fan_09]

Why not just let the people involved work it out? They can do whatever they want. It should be no concern of ours.

[thesheriff443]

some people know the price of everything! and the value of nothing!

[Pyramid*]

Jet - why start the same type of threads for the same reasons. Seriously.:sleep:

[Marmalite]

Can't help but feel that people are deciding to insult Jay's Mum as a way of directing the attention away from the point of the thread - that Aaron has allegedly gone back his agreement to split the money


No not really. Jay's Mum wasn't in BB so why should she be giving her 2 cents on what's happening. She did a massive campaign for her son and that's fine but he still didn't win so she needs to get over it and step out of the spotlight and let her son speak for himself as now he's out of the house he can.

I would feel the same if any parent gave an interview about any situation - say Tom's Mum or Dad complaining that Alex hadn't shared the money or Alex's Mum moaning that her daughter should have won if Jay had. They're all grown ups now so therefore I want to hear from the BB HMs and not their parents or what their parents think because I couldn't give a monkeys on what their opinion is.

Plus a parent bragging about the fact that a HM got death threats because their kid didn't win when he should've is pretty low imo, and is bound to rile up anyone who is a BB fan and not just Aaron supporters.

[Lex]

The big point for me is that Aaron, throughout the whole series, promoted himself as a man of principle. In his BOTS interview and OKTV tonight he talked again about his principles.
Aaron thought Jay was going to win...Jay was being cheered, and he was being booed. :shocked:So he brings up the idea of sharing the winners money, and they agree to do that and shake hands on it. A principled man would not go back on his word.
So is Aaron just principled when it suits Aaron to say he is principled? I have always thought so, and I maintain he is basically a fake. What is more, is he prepared to be shown as a fake and not what he portrayed himself on television to win votes?
He no longer needs votes, and he has the money. Where are his principles now?
If he DOES split the money with Jay, I will gladly say I was wrong about him. I have no problem doing that.

Hi Jet!

It is a fair point that you are making and has been discussed in other threads....and one that I agree with. ...But I do feel that all of these speculative-threads about the money-agreement are a little premature!
Afterall, they've only been out of the house for a couple of days!.
And do we know if the other 50k has been split as agreed between the 5 of them?...Time will tell....but I do agree that Aaron and the other HMs should stick to their pledges!!

BTW...This is going to sound funny, but do you know if Josie ever bought Steve the artificial legs that she promised last year?

[jet]

Of course they would be, and if you look around you will see that I have said that Alex would be wrong if she kept the money because the hat thing was just a gimmick.So you can now take back the hypocrite comment.

So are you saying that Aaron would be wrong and treacherous if he doesn't go through with the deal he made with Jay to split the money £30-£20?


Infact look, here it is...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191356

The bottom line is that anyone would be wrong not to split the money - unless they are called Aaron. Despite the fact that he is the one who has spouted his high principles at every opportunity.
I just can't believe what I am reading on here recently. The vitriol and hypocrisy is horrendous.

[Vicky.]

Infact look, here it is...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191356

Hmm, call me cynical...but that post was made after this thread was made...and after you posted in this one :suspect:

:tongue:

[Pyramid*]

some people know the price of everything! and the value of nothing!

I know that a tube of Pringles is £1.49 in my local shop. The value of it is unbeatable, especially when dipped in garlic mayo.

[thesheriff443]

so its ok for everyone else to hav there 2 cents but not jays mum!

[Vicky.]

I know that a tube of Pringles is £1.49 in my local shop. The value of it is unbeatable, especially when dipped in garlic mayo.

I now want pringles.

Screw you :bored: :p

[thesheriff443]

I know that a tube of Pringles is £1.49 in my local shop. The value of it is unbeatable, especially when dipped in garlic mayo.

not when you can buy one and get one free!

[Pyramid*]

I now want pringles.

Screw you :bored: :p


*removes self from thread - to go flail self*

[Pyramid*]

not when you can buy one and get one free!

Not in my local shop. Asda, maybe, but not in my local shop. :tongue:

[Scotty07]

Don't leave the cats all alone.:nono:

Hurry up and fetch them then.:cool:

:dance2::dance2::dance2:

[jet]

It must really grate you that he won :D :xyxwave:

Jet - why start the same type of threads for the same reasons. Seriously.:sleep:

This thread is about Aaron's 'principles'. What do you think of them?

[thesheriff443]

sometimes you get a special offer!

[Pyramid*]

This thread is about Aaron's 'principles'. What do you think of them?

the same as what I've said in the dozens of other threads, and the hundreds of other posts I've commented on the same subject about.

[Marmalite]

Of course they would be, and if you look around you will see that I have said that Alex would be wrong if she kept the money because the hat thing was just a gimmick.So you can now take back the hypocrite comment.

So are you saying that Aaron would be wrong and treacherous if he doesn't go through with the deal he made with Jay to split the money £30-£20?


Infact look, here it is...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191356



I haven't watched the clip of where they talked about it so I have no idea whether it's just something that was talked about or if it was something they fully agreed on and swore to do. So I cannot answer that.

But I think the difference is that with the 50,000 they had to split, BB told them it has to be split between all 5 of them and knowing that BB would throw another spanner in the works they ALL decided that no matter what happens it would be shared equally - which to me is correct. It's not fair that Tom only gets 10 quid yet Alex gets 30,000.

So, why should Aaron now split the 50,000 when it wasn't BB telling him to do it, but just some discussion he had with Jay but nothing was signed or sealed and not formal agreement was made? Plus if it was such a binding agreement why wasn't it brought up by Brian or by Emma on BBOTS - they would have jumped at the opportunity to pull Aaron up on something like that.

Plus, you could also go on forever - such as will Jay split money he makes from photo shoots with Louise and will Aaron then need to split any money he makes from interviews and photo shoots as BB winner, etc., etc.

Aaron received the most votes so therefore he won the money as well as the title and technically he should have been walking out with 100,000 and not 50,000.

[kisywisy]

Because it was a stich up on BB's part from start to finish.

Because mammy is lying.

Because there is little truth in any of all of this 'who is getting what shares'.

You can bet that this was all done on BB's instructions, for nothing more than to bring in intrigue, arguments and having fans voting like crazy.

After all: BB plays the game too. ;)

You have no proof she's lying


I have to say, the amount of hate directed to her on her is disgusting.


Some people on here have mentioned jays twitter campaign with disgust, yet all the hm (including Aaron) have had the same.

Why did she mention the winnings?? Ever thought she was ASKED about them?! You think she's went out her way to get interviewed?? Most likely SHE was approached by THEM.

You also need to remember these people and their families are not all media savvy.

Seems like anyone that doesn't talk like the sun shines from Aaron's backside is the target of a hate campaign :rolleyes:

[kisywisy]

Plus, 'lord Aaron' made that deal with jay and has not uttered one word about splitting it in any interview he's done.

Personally I don't know why they felt the need to make that agreement, as the winner should take the winnings, but he agreed to split it

[Pyramid*]

You have no proof she's lying


I have to say, the amount of hate directed to her on her is disgusting.


Some people on here have mentioned jays twitter campaign with disgust, yet all the hm (including Aaron) have had the same.

Why did she mention the winnings?? Ever thought she was ASKED about them?! You think she's went out her way to get interviewed?? Most likely SHE was approached by THEM.

You also need to remember these people and their families are not all media savvy.

Seems like anyone that doesn't talk like the sun shines from Aaron's backside is the target of a hate campaign :rolleyes:

If Jay's mother wanted to go about slating other hms, then hey: what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

she can't have it all one way you know.

As for not being media savvy: she certainly was media savvy enough to bombard all sorts of celebs on her twitter over the weeks, and on FB showing all sorts of 'modelling pics' of him.....she's not that daft when it comes to being not media savvy.

[Pyramid*]

Plus, 'lord Aaron' made that deal with jay and has not uttered one word about splitting it in any interview he's done.

Personally I don't know why they felt the need to make that agreement, as the winner should take the winnings, but he agreed to split it

and neither has Jay made mention of it. Now seeing as Jay would be the aggrieved beneficiary: don't you think that he'd be the one doing all the shouting off if he and Aaron hadn't come to some agreement thereafter the clips that we were shown.

remember the amount of times we weren't shown things at the time, that then came out much later on...... I suspect this is one of them.

[kisywisy]

I haven't watched the clip of where they talked about it so I have no idea whether it's just something that was talked about or if it was something they fully agreed on and swore to do. So I cannot answer that.

But I think the difference is that with the 50,000 they had to split, BB told them it has to be split between all 5 of them and knowing that BB would throw another spanner in the works they ALL decided that no matter what happens it would be shared equally - which to me is correct. It's not fair that Tom only gets 10 quid yet Alex gets 30,000.

So, why should Aaron now split the 50,000 when it wasn't BB telling him to do it, but just some discussion he had with Jay but nothing was signed or sealed and not formal agreement was made? Plus if it was such a binding agreement why wasn't it brought up by Brian or by Emma on BBOTS - they would have jumped at the opportunity to pull Aaron up on something like that.

Plus, you could also go on forever - such as will Jay split money he makes from photo shoots with Louise and will Aaron then need to split any money he makes from interviews and photo shoots as BB winner, etc., etc.

Aaron received the most votes so therefore he won the money as well as the title and technically he should have been walking out with 100,000 and not 50,000.

Aaron came up with the splitting it equally when out the house (the shared 50k) but I'd say it speaks volumes about his character to go back on agreement he made off his own back to split with jay. He didn't have to do it but he DID make that promise.

[kisywisy]

If Jay's mother wanted to go about slating other hms, then hey: what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

she can't have it all one way you know.

As for not being media savvy: she certainly was media savvy enough to bombard all sorts of celebs on her twitter over the weeks, and on FB showing all sorts of 'modelling pics' of him.....she's not that daft when it comes to being not media savvy.

Lol!!! I tweet celebs on twitter too, does that make me media savvy?! LOL!!!!!

[Marmalite]

I think some posters need to understand that I think many of us would be posting exactly the same if it had been Aden or Rebeckah or any other HM who had won and Aaron's mother or brother had been saying things about them being hated so much they had death threats. That's just wrong and there is absolutely no reason to bask in that - like they've won some popularity contest because their son/daughter/brother etc didn't get threats or weren't boo'd.

Just because it's Aaron does not mean our views on situations are skewed you know.

I sometimes wonder whose view is more skewed - Aaron lovers or Aaron haters!

[jet]

Hi Jet!

It is a fair point that you are making and has been discussed in other threads....and one that I agree with. ...But I do feel that all of these speculative-threads about the money-agreement are a little premature!
Afterall, they've only been out of the house for a couple of days!.
And do we know if the other 50k has been split as agreed between the 5 of them?...Time will tell....but I do agree that Aaron and the other HMs should stick to their pledges!!

BTW...This is going to sound funny, but do you know if Josie ever bought Steve the artificial legs that she promised last year?

Hi! :hugesmile:
Splitting the other 50k between them would take more time to achieve, and it wasn't a one on one, 'shake hands on a deal agreement' between 2 people like it was with Jay and Aaron. Remember too, that it was Aaron who instigated both his agreement with Jay and the sharing of the 50k between the HM's.

If Aaron doesn't honour his agreement with Jay, I wouldn't be surprised, as I always thought he was faking it by always banging on about his principles to get votes and the money. If Alex doesn't keep to her word, I will be very disappointed in her, but at least she didn't set herself up as above everyone else when it comes to morals and values.

Josie - she wasn't a fav of mine at all, far from it :hugesmile:but I remember reading somewhere that Steve had already got funds for his legs sorted, and she donated the money instead to a charity for the disabled.

[jet]

the same as what I've said in the dozens of other threads, and the hundreds of other posts I've commented on the same subject about.

So you think he doesn't have any, and it was an act?

[kisywisy]

I think some posters need to understand that I think many of us would be posting exactly the same if it had been Aden or Rebeckah or any other HM who had won and Aaron's mother or brother had been saying things about them being hated so much they had death threats. That's just wrong and there is absolutely no reason to bask in that - like they've won some popularity contest because their son/daughter/brother etc didn't get threats or weren't boo'd.

Just because it's Aaron does not mean our views on situations are skewed you know.

I sometimes wonder whose view is more skewed - Aaron lovers or Aaron haters!

I'd say the former :P

You cannot argue with the fact he was booed. He was. He know that, we know that and jay's mum knows that. Jay was cheered which she was proud of. What mother wouldn't be proud as punch seeing their child being cheered and loved by the public??

The death threats are disgusting but there is nothing wrong with her mentioning them.

[Marmalite]

Aaron came up with the splitting it equally when out the house (the shared 50k) but I'd say it speaks volumes about his character to go back on agreement he made off his own back to split with jay. He didn't have to do it but he DID make that promise.


OK so then, yes he should split the money if it was a formal agreement.

But perhaps we need to wait a few weeks when the money has been allocated and everything (media, hype etc, etc) has calmed down before we start character assinating anyone (Aaron, Alex, Jay) for not splitting any money.

I'm sure they haven't had the time to sort out their own lives let alone pop to the bank to sort out the splitting of the money (remember BB said that is for them to sort out and that the money would be deposited into relevant persons bank accounts). So maybe everyone, including Jay's Mum, needs to calm down and wait before pointing fingers and name calling.... don't you think?

[Pyramid*]

Lol!!! I tweet celebs on twitter too, does that make me media savvy?! LOL!!!!!

Do you do it there and on FB to great extent for no other purpose than to ***** a child all over the place? (an that should be taken in the context to Jay's mother doing that.....) To say she is not media savvy is (imo) folly - she's more media savvy that I think you give her credit for.

[MTVN]

Do you do it there and on FB to great extent for no other purpose than to ***** a child all over the place? (an that should be taken in the context to Jay's mother doing that.....) To say she is not media savvy is (imo) folly - she's more media savvy that I think you give her credit for.

So because she tried to generate support for her 27 year old son she is "whoring a child all over the place"!?

[kisywisy]

OK so then, yes he should split the money if it was a formal agreement.

But perhaps we need to wait a few weeks when the money has been allocated and everything (media, hype etc, etc) has calmed down before we start character assinating anyone (Aaron, Alex, Jay) for not splitting any money.

I'm sure they haven't had the time to sort out their own lives let alone pop to the bank to sort out the splitting of the money (remember BB said that is for them to sort out and that the money would be deposited into relevant persons bank accounts). So maybe everyone, including Jay's Mum, needs to calm down and wait before pointing fingers and name calling.... don't you think?


Absolutely!! They're just out the bloody house!! They should be enjoying this time and PARTY!!

His mum hasn't name called but there have been a lot of vile remarks directed at her

If they all don't share the money then I'll be disappointed in all if them. You shouldn't make promises you can't or had no intention of keeping

[Marmalite]

It's Monday today so that means if he was fully booked from 9 - 5 today to do interviews and photo shoots then there's no way he would have been able to check if the money was in his bank account let alone transfer money into another persons account (remember he got out on Friday and Saturday he would have been booked for interviews etc and Sunday banks are closed).

Why not wait a week or two and then you can start pointing fingers and accusing Aaron and Alex and Jay if they have gone back on any agreements re the money.

[jet]

OK so then, yes he should split the money if it was a formal agreement.

But perhaps we need to wait a few weeks when the money has been allocated and everything (media, hype etc, etc) has calmed down before we start character assinating anyone (Aaron, Alex, Jay) for not splitting any money.

I'm sure they haven't had the time to sort out their own lives let alone pop to the bank to sort out the splitting of the money (remember BB said that is for them to sort out and that the money would be deposited into relevant persons bank accounts). So maybe everyone, including Jay's Mum, needs to calm down and wait before pointing fingers and name calling.... don't you think?

A very reasonable and sensible post from an Aaron fan at last. I've been waiting for one all evening. Would you mind a quick kiss from a non Aaron fan? :kiss: :hugesmile:

[Marmalite]

Hi Jet!

It is a fair point that you are making and has been discussed in other threads....and one that I agree with. ...But I do feel that all of these speculative-threads about the money-agreement are a little premature!
Afterall, they've only been out of the house for a couple of days!.
And do we know if the other 50k has been split as agreed between the 5 of them?...Time will tell....but I do agree that Aaron and the other HMs should stick to their pledges!!

BTW...This is going to sound funny, but do you know if Josie ever bought Steve the artificial legs that she promised last year?


Because you see Lex if he/she had wait a while to be absolutely sure Aaron has gone back on his word then he/she would not be able to create yet another thread about how ****ty Aaron is and continue to rip into his principles.... even if what has been said over and over again about giving them all time makes sense.

Anything to vent their anger at Aaron winning BB2011 fair and square.

[kisywisy]

Do you do it there and on FB to great extent for no other purpose than to ***** a child all over the place? (an that should be taken in the context to Jay's mother doing that.....) To say she is not media savvy is (imo) folly - she's more media savvy that I think you give her credit for.

Whoring her child out?? What a ridiculous statement to make

He had an official twitter run by his cousin and pal, and his mum set one up very late in the competition.

You accuse her of whoring him out by trying to gather support from the public?? Ridiculous. You are hell bent in attacking a woman who supported her son in a competition

[Pyramid*]

So because she tried to generate support for her 27 year old son she is "whoring a child all over the place"!?

IMO, Yes. He is her child, although one would think that at his age, 27, she'd let him try to make his own way in the world, he's at an age where he should be able to stand on his own two feet by now, surely, without his mother pleading (yes, that was the word she used on twitter to CTweedy I believe) for them to back her son.

So yes, I'd call that whoring Jay. He perhaps is happy with it, but that doesn't dismiss my right to my opinion on the matter.

[kisywisy]

I fact, I just checked. She opened her twitter account in the 30th oct so she was 'whoring him out' for a whole 12 days lol

[Pyramid*]

Whoring her child out?? What a ridiculous statement to make

He had an official twitter run by his cousin and pal, and his mum set one up very late in the competition.

You accuse her of whoring him out by trying to gather support from the public?? Ridiculous. You are hell bent in attacking a woman who supported her son in a competition

No, I'm putting over my opinions based on my own subjective viewpoint. As you are, yet I am not going around disresepcting your right to do that, by classing your posts as 'ridiculous statments'.

[Pyramid*]

So you think he doesn't have any, and it was an act?

Check back on my posting history. It will tell you all you need to know.

[jet]

It's Monday today so that means if he was fully booked from 9 - 5 today to do interviews and photo shoots then there's no way he would have been able to check if the money was in his bank account let alone transfer money into another persons account (remember he got out on Friday and Saturday he would have been booked for interviews etc and Sunday banks are closed).

Why not wait a week or two and then you can start pointing fingers and accusing Aaron and Alex and Jay if they have gone back on any agreements re the money.

Aaron didn't mention anything about splitting his money with Jay when he was on OKTV tonight. When asked what he would do with it he said it was for his son. I also think Jay's mum could well know something that we don't. She is in a better position to than we are.
But nevertheless, you are right. Let's wait and see. It could all work out well in the end - and I hope it does. Then we can all breathe a sign of relief and move on! :hugesmile:

[kisywisy]

IMO, Yes. He is her child, although one would think that at his age, 27, she'd let him try to make his own way in the world, he's at an age where he should be able to stand on his own two feet by now, surely, without his mother pleading (yes, that was the word she used on twitter to CTweedy I believe) for them to back her son.

So yes, I'd call that whoring Jay. He perhaps is happy with it, but that doesn't dismiss my right to my opinion on the matter.


Quick!! Go and get a dictionary!!! Looking up whoring!!

In everyday life, yes, a mother would allow her child to get 'make his own way in the world' but he was in a fecking tv competition if you hadn't noticed. Lol I'm pretty sure you'd remark about how 'jay is such a vile pig, not even his mother will support him' if she hadn't.

What about Aaron's brother 'shamlessly' trying to drum up support by posting on here, ds and fb groups?! Tut tut David. Don't support your brother. He can stand on his own two feet, you know

[Marmalite]

Aaron didn't mention anything about splitting his money with Jay when he was on OKTV tonight. When asked what he would do with it he said it was for his son. I also think Jay's mum could well know something that we don't. She is in a better position to than we are.
But nevertheless, you are right. Let's wait and see. It could all work out well in the end - and I hope it does. Then we can all breathe a sign of relief and move on! :hugesmile:


So did they say what are you going to do with your 60,000 you won or did they just say what will you do with the money?

Big difference btw.

I think Jay's mother knows diddly squat but will jump at the chance to push her son higher up onto the pedastal she already has him on.

[jet]

Because you see Lex if he/she had wait a while to be absolutely sure Aaron has gone back on his word then he/she would not be able to create yet another thread about how ****ty Aaron is and continue to rip into his principles.... even if what has been said over and over again about giving them all time makes sense.

Anything to vent their anger at Aaron winning BB2011 fair and square.

That is not the case. I was annoyed at people ripping into Jay and his mother because Aaron hadn't appeared to share the money. :shocked: How hypocritical and unfair was that?
If you give it, be prepared to take it. :nono:

[Pyramid*]

Quick!! Go and get a dictionary!!! Looking up whoring!!

In everyday life, yes, a mother would allow her child to get 'make his own way in the world' but he was in a fecking tv competition if you hadn't noticed. Lol I'm pretty sure you'd remark about how 'jay is such a vile pig, not even his mother will support him'

What about Aaron's brother 'shamlessly' trying to drum up support by posting on here, ds and fb groups?! Tut tut David. Don't support your brother. He can stand on his own two feet, you know

I dont' think there is any real need for the blatant sarcasm, it's very clear the context in which I meant it.

You seem to be coming across aggressive and very hostile and very much patronising. I don't respond to your posts in that manner, therefore, I don't appreciate you responding to mine that way.

Not much point in my addressing any of your points, if that's the manner in which you're going to address me.

[jet]

So did they say what are you going to do with your 60,000 you won or did they just say what will you do with the money?

Big difference btw.

I think Jay's mother knows diddly squat but will jump at the chance to push her son higher up onto the pedastal she already has him on.

I don't remember if a figure was mentioned. Does anyone know?

I think most mothers have their sons on a pedestal of sorts. My wife certainly has! :hugesmile:
Does anyone know anything about Aaron's parents? Unless they are deceased, they have been strangely silent. :conf:

[kisywisy]

I dont' think there is any real need for the blatant sarcasm, it's very clear the context in which I meant it.

You seem to be coming across aggressive and very hostile and very much patronising. I don't respond to your posts in that manner, therefore, I don't appreciate you responding to mine that way.

Not much point in my addressing any of your points, if that's the manner in which you're going to address me.

No sarcasm. I was deadly serious.

My posts are not aggressive but if you want to play that card in order to dismiss my opposing view, go ahead. and I mean that in the least aggressive and patronising way possible.

The point is you have no argument when it comes to the points I've raised.

[jet]

Quick!! Go and get a dictionary!!! Looking up whoring!!

In everyday life, yes, a mother would allow her child to get 'make his own way in the world' but he was in a fecking tv competition if you hadn't noticed. Lol I'm pretty sure you'd remark about how 'jay is such a vile pig, not even his mother will support him' if she hadn't.

What about Aaron's brother 'shamlessly' trying to drum up support by posting on here, ds and fb groups?! Tut tut David. Don't support your brother. He can stand on his own two feet, you know

Are Aaron's parents deceased, does anyone know? If not, the only person who has shown any support for him is his brother. His friend certainly didn't - saying he was a game player when Aaron totally denies this.
Strange that only his brother really supported him. Or maybe it is very telling. :whistle:

[Pyramid*]

Are Aaron's parents deceased, does anyone know? If not, the only person who has shown any support for him is his brother. His friend certainly didn't - saying he was a game player when Aaron totally denies this.
Strange that only his brother really supported him. Or maybe it is very telling. :whistle:


How wrong you are. But I will let an non Aaron supporter let you know who else from his family actually spoke up in dignified support of Aaron.

[Lex]

I don't remember if a figure was mentioned. Does anyone know?

I think most mothers have their sons on a pedestal of sorts. My wife certainly has! :hugesmile:
Does anyone know anything about Aaron's parents? Unless they are deceased, they have been strangely silent. :conf:

Silent?....that does'nt sound right?....Perhaps the word is 'dignified' Jet. :spin:

[Pyramid*]

I don't remember if a figure was mentioned. Does anyone know?

I think most mothers have their sons on a pedestal of sorts. My wife certainly has! :hugesmile:
Does anyone know anything about Aaron's parents? Unless they are deceased, they have been strangely silent. :conf:

I posted on yoru other thread. There was another family member, but I will let a Non Aaron fan tell you who it was...and she remained very dignified throughout. (that was a step for a hint)

[Pierre-loso]

Maybe he just decided not to share after seeing everything Jay and his little gang said about him while in the house...

"your're a d**khead!!!"
"cheers here's 20 grand"............

[spintronic]

:d

850 if he went to vietnam.

pmsl.

[jet]

How wrong you are. But I will let an non Aaron supporter let you know who else from his family actually spoke up in dignified support of Aaron.

What? :conf:
If they had, I'm sure you would have been delighted to tell me.

[jet]

Silent?....that does'nt sound right?....Perhaps the word is 'dignified' Jet. :spin:

So why all the secrecy? Who are these dignified people? :hugesmile:

[jet]

I posted on yoru other thread. There was another family member, but I will let a Non Aaron fan tell you who it was...and she remained very dignified throughout. (that was a step for a hint)

Okay, so there is nobody then. :hugesmile:

[MTVN]

What? :conf:
If they had, I'm sure you would have been delighted to tell me.

I think she might be referring to Aaron's wife, or possibly his parents because I believe they posted a thank you message on one of the FB groups or something(?)

[spintronic]

The big point for me is that Aaron, throughout the whole series, promoted himself as a man of principle. In his BOTS interview and OKTV tonight he talked again about his principles.
Aaron thought Jay was going to win...Jay was being cheered, and he was being booed. :shocked:So he brings up the idea of sharing the winners money, and they agree to do that and shake hands on it. A principled man would not go back on his word.
So is Aaron just principled when it suits Aaron to say he is principled? I have always thought so, and I maintain he is basically a fake. What is more, is he prepared to be shown as a fake and not what he portrayed himself on television to win votes?
He no longer needs votes, and he has the money. Where are his principles now?
If he DOES split the money with Jay, I will gladly say I was wrong about him. I have no problem doing that.


He is a man of principles.

The 2 principles are;

1) Don't give money to vile pigs who wipe their ass on pillows.
2) Don't give to strangers when you have a sons education to pay for.

[jet]

He is a man of principles.

The 2 principles are;

1) Don't give money to vile pigs who wipe their ass on pillows.
2) Don't give to strangers when you have a sons education to pay for.

Yes, his principles are - no principles at all.

1) Don't make a deal to split money with someone you obviously dislike just because you got booed and they got cheered and you are so greedy you are desperate.
2) Don't make a deal in the first place with the money for your son's education - shame on you! very principled, yep!

He isn't GIVING the money to Jay - they shook hands on a deal. Or does that mean nothing in today's amoral climate?

[jet]

I think she might be referring to Aaron's wife, or possibly his parents because I believe they posted a thank you message on one of the FB groups or something(?)

Well, why couldn't she just say so instead of the silly games?
Aarons ex wife has a child to support, and possibly has a vested interest.. She is not exactly proof that Aaron is loved and supported...I could be very wrong, but just saying...
We'll see what unfolds....

[MTVN]

Well, why couldn't she just say so instead of the silly games?
Aarons ex wife has a child to support, and possibly has a vested interest.. She is not exactly proof that Aaron is loved and supported...I could be very wrong, but just saying...
We'll see what unfolds....

No idea :laugh:

[Luke31]

If i was Aaron, and heard the stuff Jay had said about wanting to kick the life out of him, i'd not give him a penny!

[Glenn.]

I thought all this crap would end when the series did :bored:


Just let it go already :rolleyes:

[spintronic]

Yes, his principles are - no principles at all.

1) Don't make a deal to split money with someone you obviously dislike just because you got booed and they got cheered and you are so greedy you are desperate.
2) Don't make a deal in the first place with the money for your son's education - shame on you! very principled, yep!

He isn't GIVING the money to Jay - they shook hands on a deal. Or does that mean nothing in today's amoral climate?

Can I ask a question?

Do you Aaron haters actually have *ANY* proof, that Aaron has reneged on their deal?

Any *PROOF* at all?

[rk3388]

if alex didnt share her money we wouldnt hear he end of it
-so hypocritical #overit

[eviled2010]

That thug and his mummy deserve nowt but derision.
Anyway, the thug would probably only wipe his arse with the money and then get Louise to like the crap of it.
Keep it Aaron, you won it mate!
:elephant:

[bartraml]

Mrs Waggott reminds me of those big fat ugly American Mums who put their little daughters into those beauty pageants because they were never pretty enough to enter themselves so are now trying to live through their kids.

Groan... Is that horrible show actually on in the UK? WOW--- it's hard to even find here in the US (thank goodness!) Good analogy though!

[Angus]

From the DS website: (couldn't say it better myself)


"How come Jay has reneged on giving his 15k to Tom, Louise or Aaron? The story specifically mentions him having won 15k, so it is pretty clear he has no intention of sharing his money with anyone else.

What I suspect happened is Alex and Jay reneged on sharing their money, at which point Aaron decided WTF.

Please let me know when Jay shares 15k of his money and Alex 30k of her money."

And don't let's forget the £3,500 Louise still has.

:idc:

[Angus]

[QUOTE=rk3388;4758395]if alex didnt share her money we wouldnt hear he end of it
-so hypocritical #overit[/QUOTE

Ma McKray started spouting venom against Aaron two days after the final when all the HMS, but especially the Winner, are caught up in a whirlwind of activity including being reunited with friends and family. She is a bitter twisted cow whose vile son was well and truly beaten by someone far more worthy. Even Louise's mum said Aaron deserved the win (she doesn't seem so keen on Jay:laugh:).

NO PROOF whatsoever from any single person that Alex, Jay and Louise have split their winnings - I suspect that none of them have split the money, so until they ALL honour their agreements, I would advise Aaron to tell Jay to Eff Off:idc:

[MTVN]

From the DS website: (couldn't say it better myself)


"How come Jay has reneged on giving his 5k to Tom, Louise or Aaron? The story specifically mentions him having won 15k, so it is pretty clear he has no intention of sharing his money with anyone else.

What I suspect happened is Alex and Jay reneged on sharing their money, at which point Aaron decided WTF.

Please let me know when Jay shares 5k of his money and Alex 20k of her money."

And don't let's forget the £3,500 Louise still has.

:idc:

The story does not specifically say he went back on his deal though, all they say is that his prize money was £15,000 which it was (although I guess they've made a mistake in forgetting about the £500 he spent on Tom's present which should tell you not to trust the article's factual reliability anyway), like BB told Aaron if they want to split it amongst themselves out of the house it's something the housemates will have to arrange themselves, it doesn't actually change their official prize money

[halfacrown]

It think it'll be interesting to see how this turns out but is seems pointless jumping to conclusions at this stage. Some people seem to think they've all got their money stuffed in their back pockets and they still live in the same house together. Has it occurred to anybody that we may never know what happens, because they're now private citizens and their finances are their own business (and the tax man's)? They may agree to be discreet about this, notwithstanding any disgruntled housemates or publicity seeking parents.

[Pyramid*]

Can I ask a question?

Do you Aaron haters actually have *ANY* proof, that Aaron has reneged on their deal?

Any *PROOF* at all?

Easy enough question. I'm interested in the replies from those berating Aaron on this topic.

[parmnion]

I haven't watched the clip of where they talked about it so I have no idea whether it's just something that was talked about or if it was something they fully agreed on and swore to do. So I cannot answer that.

But I think the difference is that with the 50,000 they had to split, BB told them it has to be split between all 5 of them and knowing that BB would throw another spanner in the works they ALL decided that no matter what happens it would be shared equally - which to me is correct. It's not fair that Tom only gets 10 quid yet Alex gets 30,000.

So, why should Aaron now split the 50,000 when it wasn't BB telling him to do it, but just some discussion he had with Jay but nothing was signed or sealed and not formal agreement was made? Plus if it was such a binding agreement why wasn't it brought up by Brian or by Emma on BBOTS - they would have jumped at the opportunity to pull Aaron up on something like that.

Plus, you could also go on forever - such as will Jay split money he makes from photo shoots with Louise and will Aaron then need to split any money he makes from interviews and photo shoots as BB winner, etc., etc.

Aaron received the most votes so therefore he won the money as well as the title and technically he should have been walking out with 100,000 and not 50,000.

You're just so full of contradictions poppet..you firstly say you have not seen the clip with Jay and Aaron agreeing to split the money, yet you go on to say that it was just a discussion he had with jay where no formal agreeement was made.....


Funnily enoguh, a handshake is used to seal a deal in this country and is taken as an informal agreement between 2 people..between 2 gentlemen however it is seean as a formal agreement..nice try though, Now seeing as you have no idea what you are discussing here because you didn't see the clip I have nothing more to say to you nor your hypocritical view point.:sleep: