Why Can't Africa get their own Clean water running

[arista]

Its all good the Charity that trys to fund the Clean Walter filters
for Africa. I 'm not attacking them.


But Why in the Blue Hell
can they not do it on their own?

Why Can't Bill Gates
set up a School
in each African Big City
and get them to do their own clean water filters.


Is Africa going to be like this Forever?


Its Not Right

[Marc]

It's a big issue with aid and helping third world countries out, I don't think much of the money gets spent on what it should be spent on.

[arista]

It's a big issue with aid and helping third world countries out, I don't think much of the money gets spent on what it should be spent on.


Yes its all wrong
we need Schools funded by Bill Gates.
And the Clever Africans , Newly Qualified,
can set up there own Factory
or Ask China to set one up for them


China has built New roads in Africa
to get to their metals they can take back to the ever growing China.
The pay the Africans a low wage and work them to the bone,

[Marc]

:conf: some of the stuff you say and the way you word it comes across very blunt arista

[arista]

:conf: some of the stuff you say and the way you word it comes across very blunt arista


Sure
But thats Real Life.

We are not in a Disney World.



China is Digging Up Africa
as they need the Most Metals taken back to China,
there was a reporter out there
meeting the China Dig
and he noticed some Africans worked until the bones showed
on their hands , arms etc.



Blunt is Keeping Life Real.

[Jesus.]

It's really not that simple. They have things called droughts, which means there is a serious water shortage. They don't have seasons in the same way that we do either, so there isn't a steady flow of water to refill lakes and reservoirs.

It's not really a case of just hooking up some plumbing. Water shortage means exactly that.

Even the UK is on the cusp of having increasingly sever droughts.

[arista]

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

[Jesus.]

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

AYou previously said Bill Gates should do something, so how does that fit with your "will they do it on their own?" statement.

Africa is run by despots and religion, it's much like Europe in the dark ages, but without a flow of natural resources to use.

[arista]

AYou previously said Bill Gates should do something, so how does that fit with your "will they do it on their own?" statement.

Africa is run by despots and religion, it's much like Europe in the dark ages, but without a flow of natural resources to use.


(Rich )Gates builds New School
thats Inspiration to get it started.

Then they build their own factory
even China - their new business mate
can set that up.


Stop giving Raw Cash
build Schools.


Africa also is Hi Tec in some parts
but as you say they are in the Dark Ages in the most.

Africa must change
it can not go on like this Forever

[InOne]

It's weird these "3rd world" countries are meant to be where civilization started out as well.

[King Gizzard]

While we carrying on papering over the cracks and not actually getting to the root of the problem, then it's a lost cause

Nothings done because we just give them donations that don't even scratch the surface

Cause there's not much oil involved, we couldn't give a toss it seems

[Ammi]

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

..probably not..the governments are too corrupt...and greedy

[King Gizzard]

Don't forget it's just a very difficult country right now, nearly everywhere you look there's war or conflict, and yes corruption

[arista]

Don't forget it's just a very difficult country right now, nearly everywhere you look there's war or conflict, and yes corruption


Yes and China is Digging Africa up
for its Metals that China must have.



And those nations at war
get no Bill Gates School start up.

[arista]

While we carrying on papering over the cracks and not actually getting to the root of the problem, then it's a lost cause

Nothings done because we just give them donations that don't even scratch the surface

Cause there's not much oil involved, we couldn't give a toss it seems


Yes True just Nigeria
who have tribal wars , at this time.


Africa has Metals to be Dug Up though
thats why China is building roads.

[dizzy bint]

Africa has Metals to be Dug Up though
thats why China is building roads.

The UK has done the same thing in the past.

Colonialisation left a mess of Africa with it's unnatural, imposed borders. Corruption is rife together with a lack of will by western governments mean that some parts of Africa will take lifetimes for the poor to reach decent living standards, if ever.

[joeysteele]

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.

[arista]

The UK has done the same thing in the past.

Colonialisation left a mess of Africa with it's unnatural, imposed borders. Corruption is rife together with a lack of will by western governments mean that some parts of Africa will take lifetimes for the poor to reach decent living standards, if ever.


Sure

And that mess has gone
Africa now has Freedom to get better
or go into tribal wars


They Roll the Dice

[arista]

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.


you are Most Wise.



As for Englands Water problem
they can turn off the taps in the daytime
to save water.
Thats on the cards

[Ammi]

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.

I sometimes wonder Joey..I'm probably wrong..if the African governments don't want things to change..they don't want things to be better for their people...only for themselves..to keep everyone else in poverty and that's why it appears so difficult to get the help where it's needed..they create difficulties...obstacles...because the money seems to be there...but hardly any seems to...actually get through..I don't know..but it just doesn't make any sense that so little seems to progress..and yet a lot of funding is there. I don't know if the African governments want it this way...because then nobody questions them

[joeysteele]

I sometimes wonder Joey..I'm probably wrong..if the African governments don't want things to change..they don't want things to be better for their people...only for themselves..to keep everyone else in poverty and that's why it appears so difficult to get the help where it's needed..they create difficulties...obstacles...because the money seems to be there...but hardly any seems to...actually get through..I don't know..but it just doesn't make any sense that so little seems to progress..and yet a lot of funding is there. I don't know if the African governments want it this way...because then nobody questions them

I think you are right in your line of thought there Ammi, my guess would be much of the financial aid given to these Nations is in fact squandered, not likely used to benefit the original people it was originally targetted to help.

All the problems sorted out resulting in the need for much lesser aid or none at all would likely be somthing some of the African govts. would hate to see happen.
Which is why I would prefer to see exactly where every penny of aid goes, what it has done/built etc;.

[dizzy bint]

Sure

And that mess has gone
Africa now has Freedom to get better
or go into tribal wars


They Roll the Dice


Has it? Did the withdrawal of the British from Zambia and Zimbabwe, for instance, leave them in a better position? Or did they just leave them in a complete mess?

[arista]

Has it? Did the withdrawal of the British from Zambia and Zimbabwe, for instance, leave them in a better position? Or did they just leave them in a complete mess?



A Mess or Not


They are on their Own Feet Now

[Ammi]

I think you are right in your line of thought there Ammi, my guess would be much of the financial aid given to these Nations is in fact squandered, not likely used to benefit the original people it was originally targetted to help.

All the problems sorted out resulting in the need for much lesser aid or none at all would likely be somthing some of the African govts. would hate to see happen.
Which is why I would prefer to see exactly where every penny of aid goes, what it has done/built etc;.

..So really..the answer to the OP could be...they can't get their own clean running water because the governments don't want them to have it
..I don't know if that's true or not..or if it is..whether there will be anything we can ever do about it..on a larger scale

[joeysteele]

..So really..the answer to the OP could be...they can't get their own clean running water because the governments don't want them to have it
..I don't know if that's true or not..or if it is..whether there will be anything we can ever do about it..on a larger scale

I would think that it is part of the problem and a reason little seems to ever get done on this issue, yes.

[waterhog]

more then 50 million raised but no sign of relief

i am sorry,
this is one of these fake smiles,
because on all 17 races,
no distance is made, even if we do the miles.
most of the money will waste,
Africa will be in no better position,
this time next year please run again,
in reverse as its the tradition.
these parts of earth,
lack resource,
there's no food, money medicine,
but there's plenty of time for intercourse.
if there government are failing,
then our help will never reach,
surely as we are all on earth,
advice and guidance we can teach.
Africa is in a rut,
there people have no freedom,
what we should be offering is safe sex advice,
comic reliefe money should supply Durex and femmedom.

(the reason i write this poem is because each year we are in the same position and no further along - i think its cruel to be sending money and not helping the country change so there is less corruption and there own government are looking after there own people and they are all working on the same side - just woundered what our views are?)

[arista]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198630


All on this thread

[Ammi]

..we have this thread already Joe...another great poem though

oh sorry...WATERHOG

[waterhog]

thank you ammi - all should i call you kind miss lol

[_Seth]

Why do you have so many different accounts?

[King Gizzard]

He got his name changed last week, so this is still the madJOE account

[lostalex]

There are LOTS of cities in Africa that do have their own clean running water and modern indoor plumbing systems, so let's not paint all of Africa with the same brush.

There are PLENTY of places in China that also do not have access to clean running water and indoor plumbing, but we all talk about China as if it's so rich and modern and the rising superpower.

[arista]

There are LOTS of cities in Africa that do have their own clean running water and modern indoor plumbing systems, so let's not paint all of Africa with the same brush.

There are PLENTY of places in China that also do not have access to clean running water and indoor plumbing, but we all talk about China as if it's so rich and modern and the rising superpower.



Yes Good Point
Tourism demands that.

Although I would no longer advise Kenya
due to those Pirates from the next nation.



Yes and China now has a
Elite, Rich , Middle, Lower Middle, Standard
and the Poor with no running water.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

because white nations keep stealing africas riches then they globally target one African villain to use it as an excuse once more to invade africa to steal new riches they hear about coughs Kony 2012

kidddiiiiinnngggg-have a good day all :D

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

There are LOTS of cities in Africa that do have their own clean running water and modern indoor plumbing systems, so let's not paint all of Africa with the same brush.

There are PLENTY of places in China that also do not have access to clean running water and indoor plumbing, but we all talk about China as if it's so rich and modern and the rising superpower.

Ding dong innit

[King Gizzard]

because white nations keep stealing africas riches then they globally target one African villain to use it as an excuse once more to invade africa to steal new riches they hear about coughs Kony 2012

kidddiiiiinnngggg-have a good day all :D

..because USA/England etc are ''White Nations''...?

[dizzy bint]

Yes Good Point
Tourism demands that.



There were cities in Africa with good sanitation and water supplies before the advent of tourism.

Colonialism left some places with a reasonable infra structure even if they left them in a political mess.

[Z]

I think the main problem with Africa is that everyone sees the sorry mess it's in and wants to help, so we end up, as the rest of the world, trying to invest money in everything problematic and as a result solve nothing. If all of the aid money was spent on sorting out water sanitation, it could be done with ease - but instead it goes to preventing AIDS, trying to cure AIDS, trying to stop war lords, ending famine, fighting malaria, building homes, starting up schools etc etc etc... I think if people stop trying to sort out societal problems and instead try to sort out basic survival problems, that'd be the best place to start. Not to trivialise those issues but it's a matter of priority. Drinking water and something to eat followed by a roof over your head. Stopping diseases shouldn't be such a huge drain of money at this point (which sounds awful but it's not meant in that way) - sinking money into AIDS research, while a noble cause, is at this moment in time somewhat fruitless because even if they have a breakthrough, all they're really doing is extending the life expectancy of people who can't even have a glass of safe water or eat as much as they want to.

[rk3388]

I think the main problem with Africa is that everyone sees the sorry mess it's in and wants to help, so we end up, as the rest of the world, trying to invest money in everything problematic and as a result solve nothing. If all of the aid money was spent on sorting out water sanitation, it could be done with ease - but instead it goes to preventing AIDS, trying to cure AIDS, trying to stop war lords, ending famine, fighting malaria, building homes, starting up schools etc etc etc... I think if people stop trying to sort out societal problems and instead try to sort out basic survival problems, that'd be the best place to start. Not to trivialise those issues but it's a matter of priority. Drinking water and something to eat followed by a roof over your head. Stopping diseases shouldn't be such a huge drain of money at this point (which sounds awful but it's not meant in that way) - sinking money into AIDS research, while a noble cause, is at this moment in time somewhat fruitless because even if they have a breakthrough, all they're really doing is extending the life expectancy of people who can't even have a glass of safe water or eat as much as they want to.

oh dear, AIDS isnt strictly an African disease, its not like the rest of the world is immune to it.
Studying to prevent/ cure/ help deal with AIDS is for the whole world!