[arista]

Its all good the Charity that trys to fund the Clean Walter filters
for Africa. I 'm not attacking them.


But Why in the Blue Hell
can they not do it on their own?

Why Can't Bill Gates
set up a School
in each African Big City
and get them to do their own clean water filters.


Is Africa going to be like this Forever?


Its Not Right

[Marc]

It's a big issue with aid and helping third world countries out, I don't think much of the money gets spent on what it should be spent on.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

It's a big issue with aid and helping third world countries out, I don't think much of the money gets spent on what it should be spent on.

Yes its all wrong
we need Schools funded by Bill Gates.
And the Clever Africans , Newly Qualified,
can set up there own Factory
or Ask China to set one up for them


China has built New roads in Africa
to get to their metals they can take back to the ever growing China.
The pay the Africans a low wage and work them to the bone,

[Marc]

some of the stuff you say and the way you word it comes across very blunt arista

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

some of the stuff you say and the way you word it comes across very blunt arista

Sure
But thats Real Life.

We are not in a Disney World.



China is Digging Up Africa
as they need the Most Metals taken back to China,
there was a reporter out there
meeting the China Dig
and he noticed some Africans worked until the bones showed
on their hands , arms etc.



Blunt is Keeping Life Real.

It's really not that simple. They have things called droughts, which means there is a serious water shortage. They don't have seasons in the same way that we do either, so there isn't a steady flow of water to refill lakes and reservoirs.

It's not really a case of just hooking up some plumbing. Water shortage means exactly that.

Even the UK is on the cusp of having increasingly sever droughts.

[arista]

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

AYou previously said Bill Gates should do something, so how does that fit with your "will they do it on their own?" statement.

Africa is run by despots and religion, it's much like Europe in the dark ages, but without a flow of natural resources to use.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

AYou previously said Bill Gates should do something, so how does that fit with your "will they do it on their own?" statement.

Africa is run by despots and religion, it's much like Europe in the dark ages, but without a flow of natural resources to use.

(Rich )Gates builds New School
thats Inspiration to get it started.

Then they build their own factory
even China - their new business mate
can set that up.


Stop giving Raw Cash
build Schools.


Africa also is Hi Tec in some parts
but as you say they are in the Dark Ages in the most.

Africa must change
it can not go on like this Forever

[InOne]

It's weird these "3rd world" countries are meant to be where civilization started out as well.

[King Gizzard]

While we carrying on papering over the cracks and not actually getting to the root of the problem, then it's a lost cause

Nothings done because we just give them donations that don't even scratch the surface

Cause there's not much oil involved, we couldn't give a toss it seems

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but the Water they have kills them
as it is un-clean.

Water Filters are the first way to stop the problem


Nothing in Africa is Simple
all I am saying is will they ever do it on their own?

..probably not..the governments are too corrupt...and greedy

[King Gizzard]

Don't forget it's just a very difficult country right now, nearly everywhere you look there's war or conflict, and yes corruption

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Don't forget it's just a very difficult country right now, nearly everywhere you look there's war or conflict, and yes corruption

Yes and China is Digging Africa up
for its Metals that China must have.



And those nations at war
get no Bill Gates School start up.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nathan

While we carrying on papering over the cracks and not actually getting to the root of the problem, then it's a lost cause

Nothings done because we just give them donations that don't even scratch the surface

Cause there's not much oil involved, we couldn't give a toss it seems

Yes True just Nigeria
who have tribal wars , at this time.


Africa has Metals to be Dug Up though
thats why China is building roads.

[dizzy bint]

Originally Posted by arista

Africa has Metals to be Dug Up though
thats why China is building roads.

The UK has done the same thing in the past.

Colonialisation left a mess of Africa with it's unnatural, imposed borders. Corruption is rife together with a lack of will by western governments mean that some parts of Africa will take lifetimes for the poor to reach decent living standards, if ever.

[joeysteele]

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.

[arista]

Originally Posted by dizzy bint

The UK has done the same thing in the past.

Colonialisation left a mess of Africa with it's unnatural, imposed borders. Corruption is rife together with a lack of will by western governments mean that some parts of Africa will take lifetimes for the poor to reach decent living standards, if ever.

Sure

And that mess has gone
Africa now has Freedom to get better
or go into tribal wars


They Roll the Dice

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.

you are Most Wise.



As for Englands Water problem
they can turn off the taps in the daytime
to save water.
Thats on the cards

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with arista, I do think the aid we give as to this venture now needs to be used solely to eradicate this problem as best it can be. A lot of the diseases in Africa are caused by the filthy contaminated water they have to drink and really aid should be operated in a way where things are improved.

The people of such Nations could help with it all too and it is time that whatever aid we give is used to sort out the underlying causes of a lot of the problems and that we se that happening.
Arista is 100% correct that in most cases the affected African Nations could do a massive amount more to sort this out.

As for the UK having on a smaller scale some drought problems, well that can in a great part be laid at bad planning too at the door of the wasteful Water authorities in the UK, who make vast millions of profits but prepare for the Summer badly and allow water to seep away into the streets etc; via leaks while sitting tight on those millions they make.

I sometimes wonder Joey..I'm probably wrong..if the African governments don't want things to change..they don't want things to be better for their people...only for themselves..to keep everyone else in poverty and that's why it appears so difficult to get the help where it's needed..they create difficulties...obstacles...because the money seems to be there...but hardly any seems to...actually get through..I don't know..but it just doesn't make any sense that so little seems to progress..and yet a lot of funding is there. I don't know if the African governments want it this way...because then nobody questions them

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I sometimes wonder Joey..I'm probably wrong..if the African governments don't want things to change..they don't want things to be better for their people...only for themselves..to keep everyone else in poverty and that's why it appears so difficult to get the help where it's needed..they create difficulties...obstacles...because the money seems to be there...but hardly any seems to...actually get through..I don't know..but it just doesn't make any sense that so little seems to progress..and yet a lot of funding is there. I don't know if the African governments want it this way...because then nobody questions them

I think you are right in your line of thought there Ammi, my guess would be much of the financial aid given to these Nations is in fact squandered, not likely used to benefit the original people it was originally targetted to help.

All the problems sorted out resulting in the need for much lesser aid or none at all would likely be somthing some of the African govts. would hate to see happen.
Which is why I would prefer to see exactly where every penny of aid goes, what it has done/built etc;.

[dizzy bint]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure

And that mess has gone
Africa now has Freedom to get better
or go into tribal wars


They Roll the Dice

Has it? Did the withdrawal of the British from Zambia and Zimbabwe, for instance, leave them in a better position? Or did they just leave them in a complete mess?

[arista]

Originally Posted by dizzy bint

Has it? Did the withdrawal of the British from Zambia and Zimbabwe, for instance, leave them in a better position? Or did they just leave them in a complete mess?

A Mess or Not


They are on their Own Feet Now

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think you are right in your line of thought there Ammi, my guess would be much of the financial aid given to these Nations is in fact squandered, not likely used to benefit the original people it was originally targetted to help.

All the problems sorted out resulting in the need for much lesser aid or none at all would likely be somthing some of the African govts. would hate to see happen.
Which is why I would prefer to see exactly where every penny of aid goes, what it has done/built etc;.

..So really..the answer to the OP could be...they can't get their own clean running water because the governments don't want them to have it
..I don't know if that's true or not..or if it is..whether there will be anything we can ever do about it..on a larger scale

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..So really..the answer to the OP could be...they can't get their own clean running water because the governments don't want them to have it
..I don't know if that's true or not..or if it is..whether there will be anything we can ever do about it..on a larger scale

I would think that it is part of the problem and a reason little seems to ever get done on this issue, yes.