Is she a ***** ?

[Lister of Smeg]

Seriously I was tucking ito my chinese when that bit about Ashleigh came on on BOTS and while we all know she is a bit of a shameless tart up until this point last night biggin summed it up gthis woman is a ***** serious tossing guys off under tables possing wwith a dildo with a grin on her face that pic almost made me throw up a little .

Im all for being more open about sex andd sexuality in genral but Ashleigh is just down right disgusting when Bennedict talked about it he did it in a tasteful manner and not in a sleazy way like Ashleigh does .

[KingOfTheMods]

She's a crack *****, sucks c**k for rock.

[Saigon1]

Yeah she is.

[Lister of Smeg]

She's a crack *****, sucks c**k for rock.

As i ve said in other threads her destiny is to end up with 5 kids to 5 diferent men living on some cheap council estate next to her crack dealer which she needs to ease the pain of not becoming a z list celeb when she left the house .

[KingOfTheMods]

As i ve said in other threads her destiny is to end up with 5 kids to 5 diferent men living on some cheap council estate next to her crack dealer which she needs to ease the pain of not becoming a z list celeb when she left the house .

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTume2NNkrY9xwcl8uPqHX_I7c-obJwfX9kZhFfko4yrnOoGQtXaA

[Lister of Smeg]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTume2NNkrY9xwcl8uPqHX_I7c-obJwfX9kZhFfko4yrnOoGQtXaA

Thats Ash another 7 years down the line .

[coolface]

I would say yes she is, brb talking about water sports within 10 minutes of someone

[Kizzy]

Can I just interject here please?...
Benedict has sex for a living, he does god knows what to god knows who for money.
That is more acceptable than a woman admitting to owning a sex aid and getting a bit fresh on a date?....

[calyman]

Can I just interject here please?...
Benedict has sex for a living, he does god knows what to god knows who for money.
That is more acceptable than a woman admitting to owning a sex aid and getting a bit fresh on a date?....
Benedict's activities are done in the best possible taste while the skanks
are done in the best possible taste (know what I mean?)

[joeysteele]

I don't care for Ashleigh and she may be rather forward in certain activities but I don't like such terminology and wouldn't use it myself to describe her or really any female.
I also doubt the guy she was with at the table lodged any complaint so it says a lot about him as well, not just her.
If such an action has her branded all sorts what does it mean as to him too.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

She likes sex.

Get over it prude.

[Kizzy]

Benedict's activities are done in the best possible taste while the skanks
are done in the best possible taste (know what I mean?)

No, there is no comparison...
I will never understand why benedicts career choice is seen as acceptable, because he can articulate himself well?..
Because he writes articles for the Guardian?...
ashleigh may be a crude young woman is not very bright and has many insecurities.
I find it really hypocritical that her admittance has lead to a moral outrage, is it only ok to do those kinds of thing for money then like benedict would?

[glasstangerine]

I'm against slut shaming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming

It's been used to control women since we discovered our genitals.

I think Ashleigh is trashy but I don't like the method. I try to make other people's sexual practices as neutral as possible in my mind so I know I am looking at them reasonably.

[Kizzy]

I'm against slut shaming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming

It's been used to control women since we discovered our genitals.

I think Ashleigh is trashy but I don't like the method. I try to make other people's sexual practices as neutral as possible in my mind so I know I am looking at them reasonably.

Great first post :)
I agree, it seems ashleighs honesty regarding her sex life has met with revulsion wheras it seems benedict is fine to pleasure himself, give lectures on the same ..Odd
He is held up as some kind of hero for speaking of his sexploits, double standards.
Just because he has an air of respectability probably left over from when he had a legitimate career as a teacher, it does not make what he does for a living now socially acceptable.
Any way you dress up a turd...It's still a turd.

[calyman]

No, there is no comparison...
I will never understand why benedicts career choice is seen as acceptable, because he can articulate himself well?..
Because he writes articles for the Guardian?...
ashleigh may be a crude young woman is not very bright and has many insecurities.
I find it really hypocritical that her admittance has lead to a moral outrage, is it only ok to do those kinds of thing for money then like benedict would?
The difference has just been explained by yourself. Benedict sells sex as a career choice. He wants people to understand sex is a perfectly normal human function, by challenging the prudish regard that sex should be something no one talks about.He does not foist sexual innuendo down others throats, whereas this awful crude and malignant young woman does. She uses sex as a tool for her lack of intelligence, acuity and desire to shock. So you are right, there is no comparison. He is an intelligent decent human, she is not.

[Razor]

I believe she has been a ***** but couldn't make a decent living off it as she is so ugly.

[Kizzy]

The difference has just been explained by yourself. Benedict sells sex as a career choice. He wants people to understand sex is a perfectly normal human function, by challenging the prudish regard that sex should be something no one talks about.He does not foist sexual innuendo down others throats, whereas this awful crude and malignant young woman does. She uses sex as a tool for her lack of intelligence, acuity and desire to shock. So you are right, there is no comparison. He is an intelligent decent human, she is not.

If it is such a normal human function why does is offend you when this woman speaks of it?
He forced many of his views down the throats of his fellow HM's, who squirmed uncomfortably throughout as I recall.
Yes he is intelligent, it is a shame he chooses you use his body rather than his mind to make a living...
Ash is not intelligent which the last time I checked was not a crime.

[Petershaw1984]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTume2NNkrY9xwcl8uPqHX_I7c-obJwfX9kZhFfko4yrnOoGQtXaA

Wow. Thats ash if she used the crack me app similar to age me

[calyman]

If it is such a normal human function why does is offend you when this woman speaks of it?
He forced many of his views down the throats of his fellow HM's, who squirmed uncomfortably throughout as I recall.
Yes he is intelligent, it is a shame he chooses you use his body rather than his mind to make a living...
Ash is not intelligent which the last time I checked was not a crime.
To answer your question, please reread my previous post. I thought I had made quite clear the difference i how they talk about sex. To use an analogy, consider Benedict as a Sex Education teacher and consider Ashley as a sniggering, salacious fool. There is your distinction.

As for selling his body for sex, that is his choice, I do not share your shame about this.

[halfacrown]

I think Ashleigh is a horrible person who is nasty, jealous and suffers because she wants to be beautiful and she isn't. She looks like she's had a poor nose job in pursuit of her dream to be conventionally pretty and she won't stop there.

I wish Benedict had won, for many reasons, including his direct approach about sex. However, if I'm honest, I think he was a little coy about how much he's into men.

Notwithstanding, Benedict is the one involved in the sex industry for profit, not Ashleigh.

[Lister of Smeg]

I think Ashleigh is a horrible person who is nasty, jealous and suffers because she wants to be beautiful and she isn't. She looks like she's had a poor nose job in pursuit of her dream to be conventionally pretty and she won't stop there.

I wish Benedict had won, for many reasons, including his direct approach about sex. However, if I'm honest, I think he was a little coy about how much he's into men.

Notwithstanding, Benedict is the one involved in the sex industry for profit, not Ashleigh.

I thought there was something funny about her nose lol its arches out like a boat hook :joker:

[Kizzy]

To answer your question, please reread my previous post. I thought I had made quite clear the difference i how they talk about sex. To use an analogy, consider Benedict as a Sex Education teacher and consider Ashley as a sniggering, salacious fool. There is your distinction.

As for selling his body for sex, that is his choice, I do not share your shame about this.

I would have considered benedict a sex education teacher when he was employed as one, now he works in the porn industry.
And there we have it, 'that is his choice'
He can do and say whatever he likes, ashleigh can too...She may be monosyllabic but she is as entitled as benedict to her say

[halfacrown]

I thought there was something funny about her nose lol its arches out like a boat hook :joker:


Don't want to seem obsessed with noses but Ashleigh's mum has a nose and a half and I think that's where Ashleigh may have got her original nose from.

Not that there's anything wrong with big or unusual noses, unless you are obsessed with being 'beautiful' like Ashleigh!

[coolface]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTume2NNkrY9xwcl8uPqHX_I7c-obJwfX9kZhFfko4yrnOoGQtXaAmeth

[coolface]

I thought there was something funny about her nose lol its arches out like a boat hook :joker:

dat nose

http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/NYC02.07_Moomin_LittleMy.jpg
http://i2.listal.com/image/681715/600full-the-moomins-screenshot.jpg
http://multifariousmeanderings.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/little-my.jpg

[calyman]

I would have considered benedict a sex education teacher when he was employed as one, now he works in the porn industry.
And there we have it, 'that is his choice'
He can do and say whatever he likes, ashleigh can too...She may be monosyllabic but she is as entitled as benedict to her say
You are talking about two separate issues and conflating them. Yes Benedict works in the sex industry, that's his choice. No one who doesn't want to, is forced to watch his films.

As to their respective approaches towards sex, Benedict seeks to raise awareness of sex and sexual health issues. Ashley uses perverse talk of sex as a means of social interaction. She may be entitled to her views but is not entitled to disgust others by espousing them.

[Kizzy]

You are talking about two separate issues and conflating them. Yes Benedict works in the sex industry, that's his choice. No one who doesn't want to, is forced to watch his films.

As to their respective approaches towards sex, Benedict seeks to raise awareness of sex and sexual health issues. Ashley uses perverse talk of sex as a means of social interaction. She may be entitled to her views but is not entitled to disgust others by espousing them.

I am not conflating anything, I couldn't be clearer in my mind on this issue.
If I wished to have my awareness raised I will look to a more reliable source than a man who has sex for money.
Anyone who does not wish to hear ashleigh may switch off at any point when she appears on screen....

[AshesonMars]

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.

[bbfan1991]

Woah that is harsh, she obviously likes sex and is foul mouthed, dense etc but we do not know much about Ashleigh's life away from the show.

I tend to judge these people on their time in the house and could not give a toss what they are like outside anymore, this lot will soon be forgotten in a few weeks once the final is over.

[calyman]

I am not conflating anything, I couldn't be clearer in my mind on this issue.
If I wished to have my awareness raised I will look to a more reliable source than a man who has sex for money.
Anyone who does not wish to hear ashleigh may switch off at any point when she appears on screen....
I think you're personalising this issue. I am speaking in a general way. I may indeed wish to switch off when ashlley speaks, that's my choice. You may choose to research a more reliable tutor on sexual awareness. However, my argument is based on their respective attitudes towards sex.

In general, Benedict is consistent and clear on why he speaks on sexual matters, Ashley clearly does because she has limited social skills and uses sexual vulgarity as a means of communication.

[calyman]

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.
Erm, at no point have I claimed she is a *****, I believe the term I used was skank which I believe she is. The reasons for that, I have clearly outlined. I wouldn't care if Ashley or any other person engaged in sex. What I am talking about is the manner in which this is done.

You assume that I am basing my argument on a man v woman approach, which I think you yourself are doing. That, I believe, is biased and suggests hypocrisy.

If Ashley was the sex worker who wanted to raise awareness of sexual health and Benedict was someone like Conor, then I'd be similarly justifying Ashley and slating Conor (which I'm more than happy to do, anway)c:hugesmile:

[alex_front2]

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

[Shaun]

This thread reeks of misogyny.

[InOne]

I'm sure there is a reason why all slappers have a nasty personality, it's no accident. She has just been so awful so many times that she doesn't deserve to be defended. No matter what 'insecurities' she may or may not have.

[Lister of Smeg]

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

This she wouldnt attract many men with her looks thats for sure .

[InOne]

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.

You do realise it's often common for women to call eachother slappers before the men even think of it. They do themselves no favours really, when girls insult eachother it's often with that label.

[Cherry Christmas]

I dont know if she is a *****, but she has appalling table manners, I hope dessert wasn't rice pudding or tapioca....:devil:

[Bojangles]

dat nose

http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/NYC02.07_Moomin_LittleMy.jpg
http://i2.listal.com/image/681715/600full-the-moomins-screenshot.jpg
http://multifariousmeanderings.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/little-my.jpg


probably done to match her boob job.

[Roy Mars III]

you say it like it's a bad thing

[smeagol]

She's a crack *****, sucks c**k for rock.

best post of the series lol

[smeagol]

she's swallowed more semen than the english channel that one.
she's a disgusting creature most peoples idear of goin down the local is down the pub but for her its probably the std clinic. i wouldn't touch her with a space suit on. skanky trollop.

[Censored]

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

Nearly. She is one of those plain girls that offer easy sex to attract men. I believe that the correct nomenclature is "pig". As in, "He goes to parties just to **** all the pigs..."

The words "second-hand" and "dartboard" spring to mind.

[Kizzy]

I think you're personalising this issue. I am speaking in a general way. I may indeed wish to switch off when ashlley speaks, that's my choice. You may choose to research a more reliable tutor on sexual awareness. However, my argument is based on their respective attitudes towards sex.

In general, Benedict is consistent and clear on why he speaks on sexual matters, Ashley clearly does because she has limited social skills and uses sexual vulgarity as a means of communication.

By giving my opinion I am personalising the issue.
In general benedict feels the way he conducts himself and his attitude towards sex and masturbation are fine and correct...I however do not, that is my choice.
There are lots of young women up and down the contry just like ashleigh, who are we to sit in judgement and scoff at their lack of decorum?

[calyman]

By giving my opinion I am personalising the issue.
In general benedict feels the way he conducts himself and his attitude towards sex and masturbation are fine and correct...I however do not, that is my choice.
There are lots of young women up and down the contry just like ashleigh, who are we to sit in judgement and scoff at their lack of decorum?
What I'm suggesting is that by personalising this, your opinion is clouding the issue. Opinions can often be flawed. Well thought out arguments however, tend to result in greater clarity.

I agree there are many young women just like ashley. It is my considered opinion, that is part of the canker in our society. You may find such behaviour acceptable, I do not.

[Merry Mockmas]

Yes she is, an ugly one at it aswell.

[Johnnyuk123]

Yes she is the town bike.

[Lister of Smeg]

Well she passing her viruses around via lipstick what a classy lady .

[Bojangles]

To be fair to the girl she is starting to take stock of herself as seen last night on BBBOTS.When she stated.That she maybe coming across at too common.
So she may start to change herself,her time will have been well spent in the house in that case.

[Gillian-73]

To be fair to the girl she is starting to take stock of herself as seen last night on BBBOTS.When she stated.That she maybe coming across at too common.
So she may start to change herself,her time will have been well spent in the house in that case.

I suppose she could. But, if that is the real her, which i believe it is then it isn't that easy to change. I hope she does take something good away from this.

[arista]

Seriously I was tucking ito my chinese when that bit about Ashleigh came on on BOTS and while we all know she is a bit of a shameless tart up until this point last night biggin summed it up gthis woman is a ***** serious tossing guys off under tables possing wwith a dildo with a grin on her face that pic almost made me throw up a little .

Im all for being more open about sex andd sexuality in genral but Ashleigh is just down right disgusting when Bennedict talked about it he did it in a tasteful manner and not in a sleazy way like Ashleigh does .


No not *****
but does Raw Sex

[Kizzy]

What I'm suggesting is that by personalising this, your opinion is clouding the issue. Opinions can often be flawed. Well thought out arguments however, tend to result in greater clarity.

I agree there are many young women just like ashley. It is my considered opinion, that is part of the canker in our society. You may find such behaviour acceptable, I do not.

You think my opinion is flawed because it does not match yours.
Really?...Ex teachers who prostitute themselves are the acceptable face of society now then?
You don't know me, please don't presume you know what I do and do not find acceptable.

[calyman]

You think my opinion is flawed because it does not match yours.
Really?...Ex teachers who prostitute themselves are the acceptable face of society now then?
You don't know me, please don't presume you know what I do and do not find acceptable.
Please don't presume that by reinterpreting my words in a fashion to suit yourself, that I have to answer to your skewed response. I said that by personalising this discussion, your opiinion was clouding the issue.

I see you highlighted the more general point that opinions can be flawed and conflated that with a direct statement attributing it to yourself. This is your doing, not mine. So please don't lecture me about presumptions.It seems to me that you have read the statement but failed to understand what I was saying. Either that, or you are continuing to personalise this issue based not on what I am saying, but simply for having the temerity to disagree with you.

On that note, I don't think there's any more point in us discussing this further. A response from you will not be required but if you feel the need to do so, then please keep it respectful.

[rayheartbliss]

To answer your question, please reread my previous post. I thought I had made quite clear the difference i how they talk about sex. To use an analogy, consider Benedict as a Sex Education teacher and consider Ashley as a sniggering, salacious fool. There is your distinction.

As for selling his body for sex, that is his choice, I do not share your shame about this.

THIS.


but the word slut/***** is not acceptable, i like seeing people who are so open about their sexuality, but that doesnt make them a slut