Julie Goodyear - The biggest Gameplayer ??

[Nedusa]

I've been watching Julie Goodyear since she entered the CBB House and on whole have been quite entertained by her up to tonight. But when she told Danica that it was absolutely OK to "Rinse" punters out of their hard earned cash and admitted she cashed in on her own fame to accept gifts from strangers (which is not technically quite the same thing), I realised that Julie is indeed playing a game as she has tried to endear herself to nearly all the HM. I think she is playing a massive game, she has had no conflict with anyone, she is trying to be the favourite granny of the house. All of her conversations with other HM end with her supporting them regardless of what they have said or done. She wants to be all things to everybody.

I'm convinced now she is totally fake not being real and the sooner somebody in that house stands up to her the better. Because now watching her she is making me cringe...!!!

Can anyone else see this or am I being too judgemental.

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh no ,you are spot on right,but why cant the hm8s see it? if I were in there after her fuming at Jasmine following task, I would have thought "WTF ? She told Jasmine she loved her, was watching her back, was her adopted Mother,and now shes raving at the plasma ?"
Sad to say shes there until the finals, but i hope this week the crwod shout"Get julie out" only then will the others started to think ,but they wont, it will be " Get ... one of the girls " out

[reece(:]

I agree with both two posts above, she's definitely changed and I can see now. She's all for herself and has even got coleen tricked now, so julie's also playing a dirty game

[Jords]

I love her. Although I think shes dramatic about nominations.

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree with both two posts above, she's definitely changed and I can see now. She's all for herself and has even got coleen tricked now, so julie's also playing a dirty game

But with reading things about her in newspapers etc for several years this is the REAL Julie coming out, hated by journos ,fellow actors the country over

[Jordan.]

I've gone off her recently becuase she's been a bit two faced. Always telling people what they want to hear to their face then off bitching about it with other people.

[Cherie]

She doesnt care about nominations, notice she never looks directly at the camera, always eyes down...cos she is a liar...

[reece(:]

But with reading things about her in newspapers etc for several years this is the REAL Julie coming out, hated by journos ,fellow actors the country over
The "Diva" finally coming out that has been portrayed by the media

[chuff me dizzy]

She doesnt care about nominations, notice she never looks directly at the camera, always eyes down...cos she is a liar...

Dead right !!

[Nedusa]

Oh no ,you are spot on right,but why cant the hm8s see it? if I were in there after her fuming at Jasmine following task, I would have thought "WTF ? She told Jasmine she loved her, was watching her back, was her adopted Mother,and now shes raving at the plasma ?"
Sad to say shes there until the finals, but i hope this week the crwod shout"Get julie out" only then will the others started to think ,but they wont, it will be " Get ... one of the girls " out

Thanks Chuff , I'm happy other people can see this as well, not sure if there's anyone in the House who can see this. Because she has been quite clever to have these conversations privately with the individual HM.

She got caught out with Jasmine and Rhian as she couldn't have forseen the trolley dash. But then it was too late as Jasmine was evicted and she could focus on keeping Rhian sweet.

I just hope she gets rumbled and confronted by somebody because nobody is that "nice"....

[joeysteele]

I don't see her that way at all, she is if anything trying to get on with just about everyone,that is impossible to do really and maybe she will see that before the series ends and maybe she won't.
As to the conversation with Danica, I can believe Julie sees no real harm or wrong as to what Danica does just as some on here don't either while others do.
Julie's okay still with me, for one anyway and I would guess with loads of the voting public too.

[rusticgal]

they are only there for three weeks...we can see it but from the inside three weeks is not long enough!!

[PrincessIona]

She is driving me mad, I absolutely fake her whole "mother/granny figure" I love everyone act. I've disliked her from day 1 and I find her tedious to watch. I can't believe Colleen has now fallen for the act.

All that rubbish in the diary room tonight was ridiculous, there is no way ANYONE could love everyone in a group of people and not find any fault with anyone. If your going to put on an act at least make it realistic!

Even if I was in the bb house with just my friends, I could still choose one of them to nominate and find reasons if I had to. No one likes everyone equally and no one is such a saint that nothing can be done to annoy them :nono:

[Nedusa]

I don't see her that way at all, she is if anything trying to get on with just about everyone,that is impossible to do really and maybe she will see that before the series ends and maybe she won't.
As to the conversation with Danica, I can believe Julie sees no real harm or wrong as to what Danica does just as some on here don't either while others do.
Julie's okay still with me, for one anyway and I would guess with loads of the voting public too.

You make a fair point she may be just an extraordinarily nice person although that is not the generally accepted view of a large number of people that work with her.

But let's assume she carries on in the same vein, can she fool everyone to the end or more importantly can she convince the viewing public that it's all genuine. Surely some incident will force her true colours to come out. Interesting that she doesn't drink Alcohol in there...!!!

[Blue Cadillac]

Julie is playing a very clever game, and this has been apparent from day one. She really didn't like Jasmine's mum coming in (before she knew it was Jasmine's mum), and I think felt threatened by another (older?) woman's presence. She is the matriarch of the house, and she knows it. The biggest game player in the house for sure. And her profanities are not big or clever, either!

[joeysteele]

You make a fair point she may be just an extraordinarily nice person although that is not the generally accepted view of a large number of people that work with her.

But let's assume she carries on in the same vein, can she fool everyone to the end or more importantly can she convince the viewing public that it's all genuine. Surely some incident will force her true colours to come out. Interesting that she doesn't drink Alcohol in there...!!!

I can fully take on board what you are saying too, I like Julie but that doesn't mean she hasn't got faults like others have,however I like what I have seen thus far.

I think you could find people who work with others that some will have bad things to say about them and others really good things to say too.
However I guess it is a wait and see thing really,if I saw her do or say anything really offensive to anyone or even about anyone then I would be one of the first to moan at her for doing so.

She is 70 now, she hopefully is a lot wiser than the pressured working days on Corrie, maybe this is the real Julie,as I said in my first post, maybe it isn't but she still has me supporting her anyway.

Naturally I respect your take on her too and if you get proven more right than me as to her I will certainly credit you for that.

[Nedusa]

Julie is playing a very clever game, and this has been apparent from day one. She really didn't like Jasmine's mum coming in (before she knew it was Jasmine's mum), and I think felt threatened by another (older?) woman's presence. She is the matriarch of the house, and she knows it. The biggest game player in the house for sure. And her profanities are not big or clever, either!

She has even now got Coleen onside judging by Coleens comments in the DR. So it looks as if our biggest Gameplayer has got all the HM
Hoodwinked. So she's unlikely to be nominated. But can the viewing public be convinced so easily, she may find that when push comes to shove other bigger HM like Julian, Martin eg are more loved and will beat her in the final vote...!!!

[Munchkins]

Oh definitely, she is a sneaky cow
telling everyone they are her best friend, and that she knows them inside & out. Playing the bull****, i like everyone and can't nominate act. Walking around like bloody Mother hen, and saying one thing to one housemate, then being a complete hypocrite to what shes said.

[rusticgal]

Julie is playing a very clever game, and this has been apparent from day one. She really didn't like Jasmine's mum coming in (before she knew it was Jasmine's mum), and I think felt threatened by another (older?) woman's presence. She is the matriarch of the house, and she knows it. The biggest game player in the house for sure. And her profanities are not big or clever, either!

Spot on.... she didnt give her a chance. Although she wasnt the only one. She didnt like seeing an older woman coming in and getting comfortably involved with the others. She pulled faces and acted in a very immature way....but it all came down to having her role challenged. She has her feet under the table and she wont be budged until the final because no-one will vote her out.... but eventually we will have the final say...

[Nedusa]

I think she is the the Alpha Female and the Alpha Male, I mean no one in there will say a bad word to her ... and no one is bitching about her so she really does rule the roost.

And to be honest I can't see it changing, unless she upsets someone or gets caught out being two faced, I think she's home dry. Until
The public vote of course...!!!

[MrWong]

I love her, she cracks me up.

Her and Julian are providing some much needed humour. Without them this series would be as nasty as BB13.

[jet]

I can fully take on board what you are saying too, I like Julie but that doesn't mean she hasn't got faults like others have,however I like what I have seen thus far.

I think you could find people who work with others that some will have bad things to say about them and others really good things to say too.
However I guess it is a wait and see thing really,if I saw her do or say anything really offensive to anyone or even about anyone then I would be one of the first to moan at her for doing so.

She is 70 now, she hopefully is a lot wiser than the pressured working days on Corrie, maybe this is the real Julie,as I said in my first post, maybe it isn't but she still has me supporting her anyway.

Naturally I respect your take on her too and if you get proven more right than me as to her I will certainly credit you for that.

Well said. I was reading an interview she gave and she said "in my 25 years on Corrie, I never once had a row with any of my colleagues" If the Julie we are seeing in the house is real, I can well believe that. She seems like someone who just wants peace and to get on with everyone. Commendable really!

[joeysteele]

Well said. I was reading an interview she gave and she said "in my 25 years on Corrie, I never once had a row with any of my colleagues" If the Julie we are seeing in the house is real, I can well believe that. She seems like someone who just wants peace and to get on with everyone. Commendable really!

Thank you, also Julie has left Corrie and gone back a few times really.
It would then seem odd to me that people not liking working with her would hardly be as overjoyed at each Bet Lynch return to the street as they all appeared to be,if that was really the case.

I agree with you, to me too she seems like she just wants to get on with as many people as she can, (she will say if she doesn't like someone,like that daft task with Jasmine's Mother, which to me was the worst thing BB has done probably).
Like you again, I find that commendable that she sets out to get on with everyone,if that is possible.

[dyfed]

I think she is the the Alpha Female and the Alpha Male, I mean no one in there will say a bad word to her ... and no one is bitching about her so she really does rule the roost.

And to be honest I can't see it changing, unless she upsets someone or gets caught out being two faced, I think she's home dry. Until
The public vote of course...!!!

And then she is going down.............I hope....what a bitch and they cant see through it.:devil::devil:

[dyfed]

Spot on.... she didnt give her a chance. Although she wasnt the only one. She didnt like seeing an older woman coming in and getting comfortably involved with the others. She pulled faces and acted in a very immature way....but it all came down to having her role challenged. She has her feet under the table and she wont be budged until the final because no-one will vote her out.... but eventually we will have the final say...

Boy'o you got that right,she is such a bitch and they can't see it.....:devil:

[dyfed]

Well said. I was reading an interview she gave and she said "in my 25 years on Corrie, I never once had a row with any of my colleagues" If the Julie we are seeing in the house is real, I can well believe that. She seems like someone who just wants peace and to get on with everyone. Commendable really!

They may have been too afraid to speak out,what a bitch she really is...she only tells the HM what they want to hear,thank God she's not my Nan....

[Nedusa]

They may have been too afraid to speak out,what a bitch she really is...she only tells the HM what they want to hear,thank God she's not my Nan....

Yes she does appear to have an aggressive quality about her, every now and again you can almost detect it in her voice, as it deepens when she utters her usual expletives. I think most of the HM really do not want to wake the Beast...!!!

[alex_front2]

she nommed danica!!

[Suze]

Big Brother is a game though? with the winner title at the end of it. It's all a matter of how well they play it. It would be quite boring if they didn't see it as a game or play it that way, the only thing that annoys me with some BB housemates is how nasty they play it rather than cleverly.

[Suze]

she nommed danica!!


They are all entitled to nominate whoever they want to though and for whatever reasons, whether it be dislike, trying to get rid of competition, or just clever strategy, it's their decision whether we like it or not, as they are in the house not us and so it is their right of choice.

[sampvt]

Julie is witout doubt a big gameplayer but she has now got some competition. Coleen has analized the situation and come up with a lick ass plan to get her to the finals without being nominated again and Prince Lorenzo is kicking it up a notch. In the DR he says Danica is defo a user and abuser but he is allowing her to look like she is sucking him in around the house. He is either building up to soliciting the sympathy vote or he is going to dump her flat on her ass on live telly to get the votes. He must know the British public wont like her after thier reaction to Jasmine. Martin and Julian are now beginning to compete for airtime and its all hotting up but sadly overshadowed by the *****s actions.

[joeysteele]

I can see why Julie will have nommed Danica, she doesn't have a personal problem with Danica because of what she does as part of her life,she will talk to her and listen to her but it doesn't mean she approves of all her actions.

In the diary room, Julie said to BB she had a big problem finding reasons to nominate other housemates as she felt she got on with near all of them and had no problems with their behaviour as to her.(i can understand and relate to that).
BB then said to Julie, is there behaviour that housemates are maybe doing to other housemates that you don't like,guiding her to make that a reason for nominating.
She spoke to one of the guys, after thinking about how she saw Danica acting towards him and the other one, asked him if he thought he was being played, he said yes, so she has taken that as a reason to nominate Danica.

Nothing really malicious as to the nomination but a reason, as Julie maybe doesn't genuinely like to think of people being played by others.

As for the ppoints that the Corrie cast members may be too afraid to speak out as to not getting on with Julie, if there is any truth they haven't in the past in the first place,I doubt that near totally.
There are and have been, many feisty characters on Corrie from past and present, very few indeed would be likely to hold back if they really had something to say on matters Julie.
As I said, when she has returned to Corrie, the cast have loved her return and said so.

There are always rumours as to people not getting along and at times it happens in all workplaces too but I think we would have heard loads about this from Corrie actors and actresses past and present if it had foundation.
Even the ones who have been out of Corrie a good while with characters killed off have never said anything like this as to Julie.

I have only really heard it from Nina Myskov, whose entire career has been to put people down,belittle them and be a right nasty person to most in shows she has been on, then the spiteful venomous Nolans who likely see Julie as Coleen's biggest threat on CBB.

Until I hear more solid and factual descriptions from the people who did work for 25 years on and off on Corrie with Julie, I will hold on to what I have seen overall myself, someone who is in my view, fairly genuine but with faults/strong opinions and likely a temper like the vast majority of the human race.

[Kazanne]

Well said. I was reading an interview she gave and she said "in my 25 years on Corrie, I never once had a row with any of my colleagues" If the Julie we are seeing in the house is real, I can well believe that. She seems like someone who just wants peace and to get on with everyone. Commendable really!

I dont think all the Corrie cast would agree with that,lol,didn't she have a bit of a feud going with pat phoenix?

[chuff me dizzy]

she nommed danica!!

Yes just read it ,Danica who she sat and told was fine in how she earns her living, even went so far as to say she also gets"gifts" all the while Danica was massaging her feet

[Nedusa]

Julie is witout doubt a big gameplayer but she has now got some competition. Coleen has analized the situation and come up with a lick ass plan to get her to the finals without being nominated again and Prince Lorenzo is kicking it up a notch. In the DR he says Danica is defo a user and abuser but he is allowing her to look like she is sucking him in around the house. He is either building up to soliciting the sympathy vote or he is going to dump her flat on her ass on live telly to get the votes. He must know the British public wont like her after thier reaction to Jasmine. Martin and Julian are now beginning to compete for airtime and its all hotting up but sadly overshadowed by the *****s actions.

Yes it's good to finally see some of the other big names in there start to realise they need to start living up to their celebrity, although Julian, Martin and Coleen are funny to watch none of them have really been at the forefront of any of the main story lines. That has been reserved for skanks and planks of the house.

But Julie has kept herself pretty much in the limelight by being a shoulder to cry on or lending a listening ear to younger ones.

I really hope the BB producers move away from the love triangle/square and show us a bit more of the bigger characters in the HL shows.

I still think Julie is playing a nearly faultless game and will be hard to beat...!!!

[Kazanne]

I can see why Julie will have nommed Danica, she doesn't have a personal problem with Danica because of what she does as part of her life,she will talk to her and listen to her but it doesn't mean she approves of all her actions.

In the diary room, Julie said to BB she had a big problem finding reasons to nominate other housemates as she felt she got on with near all of them and had no problems with their behaviour as to her.(i can understand and relate to that).
BB then said to Julie, is there behaviour that housemates are maybe doing to other housemates that you don't like,guiding her to make that a reason for nominating.
She spoke to one of the guys, after thinking about how she saw Danica acting towards him and the other one, asked him if he thought he was being played, he said yes, so she has taken that as a reason to nominate Danica.

Nothing really malicious as to the nomination but a reason, as Julie maybe doesn't genuinely like to think of people being played by others.

As for the ppoints that the Corrie cast members may be too afraid to speak out as to not getting on with Julie, if there is any truth they haven't in the past in the first place,I doubt that near totally.
There are and have been, many feisty characters on Corrie from past and present, very few indeed would be likely to hold back if they really had something to say on matters Julie.
As I said, when she has returned to Corrie, the cast have loved her return and said so.

There are always rumours as to people not getting along and at times it happens in all workplaces too but I think we would have heard loads about this from Corrie actors and actresses past and present if it had foundation.
Even the ones who have been out of Corrie a good while with characters killed off have never said anything like this as to Julie.

I have only really heard it from Nina Myskov, whose entire career has been to put people down,belittle them and be a right nasty person to most in shows she has been on, then the spiteful venomous Nolans who likely see Julie as Coleen's biggest threat on CBB.

Until I hear more solid and factual descriptions from the people who did work for 25 years on and off on Corrie with Julie, I will hold on to what I have seen overall myself, someone who is in my view, fairly genuine but with faults/strong opinions and likely a temper like the vast majority of the human race.
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Joey this is a long read,but it gives some insight as to her personality.

For Julie Goodyear the episode could have been entitled The Once and Future Queen.

The idea was for a Coronation Street comeback to reclaim her soap crown after a seven-year exile.

It was to be a publicity masterstroke to give the flagging show the shot in the arm it needed to take on EastEnders.

But the big return has been a disaster. The leading lady has exited, suddenly and amid talk of diva-ish behaviour. Her character, the leopardskin-clad Bet Gilroy, is not expected to return.

'She was very high-maintenance, and that has not changed,' said an insider at Granada, which makes the show, this week.

'She thought she could come back with all her usual demands, but no one's got the time or patience to deal with that kind of thing any more.' Another at the company was less diplomatic. 'That woman always was poison,' was one terse verdict.

'She's the most offensive person I've ever worked with, no contest.'

Insiders say that Miss Goodyear, once the undisputed Queen of the Street with 22million tuning in for her exit in 1995, had expected a level of deference from the young cast which was not forthcoming.

When she first joined the show in 1970 as a mini-skirted model she addressed doyennes of the cast Doris Speed and Pat Phoenix as Miss Speed or Miss Phoenix.

By contrast, this time around the 60-year-old was treated like the rest of the cast. She may have finally got the dressing room she wanted after a minor tantrum, but there was no red carpet welcome.

Some were unhappy at her return, particularly those who had clashed with her before.

'People like Bill Roache were polite of course, because that is the way they are,' a source said.

'But there were worries about her and her demands.'

The new stars of the show were not inclined to make a fuss of her. Indeed, 40-a-day Miss Goodyear was astonished to be told to put out one of her trademark Cartier cigarettes in the now nonsmoking rest area. There are differing accounts of what went on during her 14 days back at Granada.

What is clear is that one Sunday four weeks ago, following a day's filming, she decided she was no longer able to continue.

The actress has said she is suffering from exhaustion and has been resting at her farmhouse in Heywood, Lancashire. There she is being cared for by the latest man in her life. He is Scott Brand, 33, an HGV driver she met when he was delivering goods to her home.

A Granada spokesman said: 'We wish Julie a full and speedy recovery and will talk to her when she is ready about coming back.'

But no one thinks that she will be persuaded to return despite her £170,000 one-year contract.

Those who brought her back are blaming each other. 'It always was a terrible idea - it had disaster written all over it,' said one.

So what went wrong? When Miss Goodyear left in 1995, she said she had decided that it was time to move on. But despite lucrative stints in panto, the amount of work she anticipated did not materialise. Meanwhile the Street has appeared to flounder as EastEnders waltzed off with the awards and plaudits.

In came Carolyn Reynolds - an old hand - as executive producer. Miss Reynolds hatched the idea of a return by her old star.

But problems quickly became apparent. Miss Goodyear was used to meticulous rehearsals but Coronation Street no longer has the time for that.

And, with the soap now on four times a week, scenes are shot back to back. She was in 32 scenes in her first week and 29 in the second.

Her performances have been savaged by the critics. Jaci

Stephen, the Mail's soap expert, said: 'Julie Goodyear's return has been a disaster from day one. She left as a pantomime dame and she's come back as one half of the pantomime horse.'

Granada believes Miss Goodyear will expect to be paid to the end of her contract, and is ready to negotiate.

Last night the actress renewed contact with the show's producer. There will be a meeting next week, although the outcome is unclear.

'It's very hard to predict what Julie will do or say,' a source said. 'The situation is a great big mess.'

For now there is no need for Bet Gilroy to come back.

Scriptwriters have rewritten the plot so that, for the next few weeks, there will be mentions of Bet and a trial off- screen over missing money. After that, she may never be heard of again.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-124494/Why-Bet-wont-break.html#ixzz24jsWpu5Q

[neiljimmy]

I know a casting director who has worked a lot for ITV and she said Julie Goodyear is a mean, spiteful, nasty bitch.

[Cherie]

she nommed danica!!

No surprises there...she also tried to influence the sitchs noms, not that he needs influencing, what he does need is some acting lessons ....that pause for dramatic effect before he told Julie he felt played...:sleep:

[Suze]

I was reading through that and taking on board some of that printed, but still keeping an open mind as the papers do tend to print what they want us to believe in many cases re stars of the media world. It would be so easy to believe all we read, why only the other day an online rag posted The Sitch had been evicted last Friday, and even gave quotes? So when I got to the end of that about Julie, hey I expect many stars hare difficult to work with, especially the older they get, and so Julie would be no different, but that is from 'The Daily Mail', one of the worst rags imo for printing up any old stuff that brings the readers in. I can't stand that rag at all.

Julie is no Angel, but I doubt she is the Devil Incarnate either, she is just at the moment a Celeb on a reality show trying to use her wits to make the final.

[Nedusa]

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Joey this is a long read,but it gives some insight as to her personality.

For Julie Goodyear the episode could have been entitled The Once and Future Queen.

The idea was for a Coronation Street comeback to reclaim her soap crown after a seven-year exile.

It was to be a publicity masterstroke to give the flagging show the shot in the arm it needed to take on EastEnders.

But the big return has been a disaster. The leading lady has exited, suddenly and amid talk of diva-ish behaviour. Her character, the leopardskin-clad Bet Gilroy, is not expected to return.

'She was very high-maintenance, and that has not changed,' said an insider at Granada, which makes the show, this week.

'She thought she could come back with all her usual demands, but no one's got the time or patience to deal with that kind of thing any more.' Another at the company was less diplomatic. 'That woman always was poison,' was one terse verdict.

'She's the most offensive person I've ever worked with, no contest.'

Insiders say that Miss Goodyear, once the undisputed Queen of the Street with 22million tuning in for her exit in 1995, had expected a level of deference from the young cast which was not forthcoming.

When she first joined the show in 1970 as a mini-skirted model she addressed doyennes of the cast Doris Speed and Pat Phoenix as Miss Speed or Miss Phoenix.

By contrast, this time around the 60-year-old was treated like the rest of the cast. She may have finally got the dressing room she wanted after a minor tantrum, but there was no red carpet welcome.

Some were unhappy at her return, particularly those who had clashed with her before.

'People like Bill Roache were polite of course, because that is the way they are,' a source said.

'But there were worries about her and her demands.'

The new stars of the show were not inclined to make a fuss of her. Indeed, 40-a-day Miss Goodyear was astonished to be told to put out one of her trademark Cartier cigarettes in the now nonsmoking rest area. There are differing accounts of what went on during her 14 days back at Granada.

What is clear is that one Sunday four weeks ago, following a day's filming, she decided she was no longer able to continue.

The actress has said she is suffering from exhaustion and has been resting at her farmhouse in Heywood, Lancashire. There she is being cared for by the latest man in her life. He is Scott Brand, 33, an HGV driver she met when he was delivering goods to her home.

A Granada spokesman said: 'We wish Julie a full and speedy recovery and will talk to her when she is ready about coming back.'

But no one thinks that she will be persuaded to return despite her £170,000 one-year contract.

Those who brought her back are blaming each other. 'It always was a terrible idea - it had disaster written all over it,' said one.

So what went wrong? When Miss Goodyear left in 1995, she said she had decided that it was time to move on. But despite lucrative stints in panto, the amount of work she anticipated did not materialise. Meanwhile the Street has appeared to flounder as EastEnders waltzed off with the awards and plaudits.

In came Carolyn Reynolds - an old hand - as executive producer. Miss Reynolds hatched the idea of a return by her old star.

But problems quickly became apparent. Miss Goodyear was used to meticulous rehearsals but Coronation Street no longer has the time for that.

And, with the soap now on four times a week, scenes are shot back to back. She was in 32 scenes in her first week and 29 in the second.

Her performances have been savaged by the critics. Jaci

Stephen, the Mail's soap expert, said: 'Julie Goodyear's return has been a disaster from day one. She left as a pantomime dame and she's come back as one half of the pantomime horse.'

Granada believes Miss Goodyear will expect to be paid to the end of her contract, and is ready to negotiate.

Last night the actress renewed contact with the show's producer. There will be a meeting next week, although the outcome is unclear.

'It's very hard to predict what Julie will do or say,' a source said. 'The situation is a great big mess.'

For now there is no need for Bet Gilroy to come back.

Scriptwriters have rewritten the plot so that, for the next few weeks, there will be mentions of Bet and a trial off- screen over missing money. After that, she may never be heard of again.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-124494/Why-Bet-wont-break.html#ixzz24jsWpu5Q

Thanks for the well researched background on the circumstances surrounding Julie Goodyears short lived return to the street. It must have been hard for her to come back after such a long absence and resume being the top dog on the show together with all the perks ie largest dressing room etc..

The show had moved on and her return as you point out was only to try and increase the audience figures (since the show had hit a bit of a slump at that time)

I still think she's one tough lady playing a good game and providing she doesn't shoot herself in the foot she could go all the way...!!!

[MrWong]

Thanks for the well researched background on the circumstances surrounding Julie Goodyears short lived return to the street. It must have been hard for her to come back after such a long absence and resume being the top dog on the show together with all the perks ie largest dressing room etc..

The show had moved on and her return as you point out was only to try and increase the audience figures (since the show had hit a bit of a slump at that time)

I still think she's one tough lady playing a good game and providing she doesn't shoot herself in the foot she could go all the way...!!!

She certainly could. Julie FTW!

[Ellen]

I dont really care what she was like on coronation street, she made some great long life friends & she had some that didnt like her. She was great for coronation street at the time. Im also sure she probably was a diva & maybe still is so what?
She didnt nominate Danica because of her job, she nominated her because she didnt like they way she seems to be playing two blokes in the house.
I see nothing wrong with her comforting people when they are upset, she might not like their behaviour in certain situations but will be there if they need a chat.
Yes she has her faults & yes she may show a not so nice side if someone rubs her up the wrong way, dont we all. In the house she gets stuck into all tasks & is up for a laugh, i enjoy watching her.

[Kazanne]

Thanks for the well researched background on the circumstances surrounding Julie Goodyears short lived return to the street. It must have been hard for her to come back after such a long absence and resume being the top dog on the show together with all the perks ie largest dressing room etc..

The show had moved on and her return as you point out was only to try and increase the audience figures (since the show had hit a bit of a slump at that time)

I still think she's one tough lady playing a good game and providing she doesn't shoot herself in the foot she could go all the way...!!!

:joker: It's not well reserched at all just a click on your mouse will give you all you need to know about her,unless of course you dont wish to know!!! If she is the sort of person who floats your boat,knock youself out:wavey:

[Gillian-73]

No surprises there...she also tried to influence the sitchs noms, not that he needs influencing, what he does need is some acting lessons ....that pause for dramatic effect before he told Julie he felt played...:sleep:

I thought she was asking Mike if he thought Danica was playing her so she would have an easy nom to make. I came to this conclusion after she was in the diary room saying she was dreading noms because she likes them all and bb asked, has anyone done anything to any other hm that would warrent a nomination. Who was her second nom?

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker: It's not well reserched at all just a click on your mouse will give you all you need to know about her,unless of course you dont wish to know!!! If she is the sort of person who floats your boat,knock youself out:wavey:

It takes all sorts :bored: I remember Julie from her hay day in Corrie, its well know she is a true bitch ,she tried to get back ,in fact she BEGGED to go back for Betty Turpins funeral,but was refused ,Nina Msycow and other journos know a lot about her ,if you remember Coleen said something about her past in first few days, so saddened Coleens now fell into Julies trap ,Her sister will be sending a plane over the house telling her to keep away soon !! :joker:

[Kazanne]

It takes all sorts :bored: I remember Julie from her hay day in Corrie, its well know she is a true bitch ,she tried to get back ,in fact she BEGGED to go back for Betty Turpins funeral,but was refused ,Nina Msycow and other journos know a lot about her ,if you remember Coleen said something about her past in first few days, so saddened Coleens now fell into Julies trap ,Her sister will be sending a plane over the house telling her to keep away soon !! :joker:

Well for them not to allow her back for 'Betty's funeral' speaks volumes :hugesmile:

[chuff me dizzy]

Well for them not to allow her back for 'Betty's funeral' speaks volumes :hugesmile:

Shes sheer poison

[chuff me dizzy]

Why isnt "who nommed who" up yet?

[Nedusa]

It takes all sorts :bored: I remember Julie from her hay day in Corrie, its well know she is a true bitch ,she tried to get back ,in fact she BEGGED to go back for Betty Turpins funeral,but was refused ,Nina Msycow and other journos know a lot about her ,if you remember Coleen said something about her past in first few days, so saddened Coleens now fell into Julies trap ,Her sister will be sending a plane over the house telling her to keep away soon !! :joker:

What.....?? She wasn't allowed to attend the Funeral of someone she had worked with for decades !!! Betty's family wouldn't let her attend Betty's funeral. That's very odd??

Oh.... Perhaps you are referring to Betty's on screen Funeral , which means the Corrie production chiefs didn't want her anywhere near the cast or set.

Either way it doesn't show Julie in a very positive light..!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

What.....?? She wasn't allowed to attend the Funeral of someone she had worked with for decades !!! Betty's family wouldn't let her attend Betty's funeral. That's very odd??

Oh.... Perhaps you are referring to Betty's on screen Funeral , which means the Corrie production chiefs didn't want her anywhere near the cast or set.

Either way it doesn't show Julie in a very positive light..!!!

It was her on screen funeral

[Ellen]

What.....?? She wasn't allowed to attend the Funeral of someone she had worked with for decades !!! Betty's family wouldn't let her attend Betty's funeral. That's very odd??

Oh.... Perhaps you are referring to Betty's on screen Funeral , which means the Corrie production chiefs didn't want her anywhere near the cast or set.

Either way it doesn't show Julie in a very positive light..!!!

She attended Betty Drivers funeral, they were very good friends in real life.

[joeysteele]

I obviously as I always do, respect totally you and your post above kazanne, it does make interesting reading, although in the main it seems she was more a pain to the production team than as to the other cast members overall.
I guess the same can be said as to many actors and actresses, Joan Collins for one when on Dynasty for instance.
I watched old re-runs of dynasty a couple of years back, thought she was great in that but also she was an actress with constant demands too.

I obviously take your post of the article as presented in the Mail as a 'possible' take on her with likely foundation to parts of it.
However from what I have learned as to the press I take much of what they say as a bit of truth with a lot of selective invention.
The Mail and the Sun are 2 papers particularly I have come to disregard for their near nonsense over the years.

I can accept younger actors on Corrie may have been not so overjoyed at her return at times but like in all areas, older more established stars are seen as threats once younger actors and actresses are looking for the best storylines.

Her demands etc; as listed in that Mail article does not though convey her being really nasty to other cast members overall,it deals with headaches for the producers and directing team but not necessaily with any venom coming against her from the majority of Corrie cast members.
Many actors and actresses are known and accepted as being often unreasonable people at times in their demands and attitude,it applies to them all though and I am sure many of Corrie's current cast make strong demands at times too.

The storylines for Bet on Corrie dried up largely after her association with Alec who she married in the series,therein likely lies the problem with any future return, really only Emily, Ken, Dierdre, Gail,Rita,Kevin and Sally are any vehicles for any storyline with Bet now.

For me, it is telling though, that her character has never been killed off by any producers of Corrie,she was a part of the 50th anniversary celebrations for Corrie and her character could walk onto the street anytime if it was thought mileage was in it.
Who knows what could come after CBB.
Cheryl Fergison for instance, on bbbots,said she loved Julie and was sure they would be doing something together in the future.

I guess it all boils down to whether people liked her character in Corrie, and also whether they like her or not as Julie or see her as irrelevant now.
I like her,as her character Bet and also as Julie the person,I see no wrong in what she has done in life or even what she is doing now on CBB.

In my own view,wanting the best for yourself and being a pain at times is not a crime and I have already seen and read so many lies and false accounts of peoples lives and careers in the press, the Sun and Mail as 2 of the worst offenders of that, to last me a lifetime and I am only 20 now.

Hey kazanne, never worry as to making a long post, you know how I can go on and on at times once I get going.
I generally always agree with you anyway and although we have different takes on matters Julie Goodyear,I will always respect and admire your balance and fairness.
I enjoyed reading it all and thanks for your response to my post as always.

[joeysteele]

There is no hard evidence that Julie was refused any request to be part of Betty's funeral on Corrie.

Many people also hoped to see Hilda Ogden return for it but the Corrie team said they didn't want old characters back for the funeral to probably overshadow and detract from the passing of another great Corrie character, namely, Betty.

Julie has herself ruled out returning to Corrie,however if she were to win CBB, do people really believe Corrie producers would not want to try to get her back.
I dare bet if she won CBB,they would be like bees round a honeypot to at least try to get her to agree to just one more even small storyline.

Coronation Street is now a gruelling schedule of recording for the cast now from a decade or so ago,cast members of advancing age have decided to leave for good because of health but also in part due to the punishing recording schedules, such as Bill Tarmey and of course Liz Dawn.

Rita and Emily have virtually only token roles in the street now as storylines,with the exception of Rita's recent wedding to Dennis.
At aged 70 now, Julie Goodyear would likely find it really hard to commit to such a schedule even if they wanted her to.

Times and things change,that is sometimes a sad part of life and TV but inevitably happens.
None of it really makes Julie look like a bad person though,or even a Corrie has been.

[Kazanne]

She attended Betty Drivers funeral, they were very good friends in real life.

i think they meant the funeral in Corrie not in real life

[Kazanne]

I obviously as I always do, respect totally you and your post above kazanne, it does make interesting reading, although in the main it seems she was more a pain to the production team than as to the other cast members overall.
I guess the same can be said as to many actors and actresses, Joan Collins for one when on Dynasty for instance.
I watched old re-runs of dynasty a couple of years back, thought she was great in that but also she was an actress with constant demands too.

I obviously take your post of the article as presented in the Mail as a 'possible' take on her with likely foundation to parts of it.
However from what I have learned as to the press I take much of what they say as a bit of truth with a lot of selective invention.
The Mail and the Sun are 2 papers particularly I have come to disregard for their near nonsense over the years.

I can accept younger actors on Corrie may have been not so overjoyed at her return at times but like in all areas, older more established stars are seen as threats once younger actors and actresses are looking for the best storylines.

Her demands etc; as listed in that Mail article does not though convey her being really nasty to other cast members overall,it deals with headaches for the producers and directing team but not necessaily with any venom coming against her from the majority of Corrie cast members.
Many actors and actresses are known and accepted as being often unreasonable people at times in their demands and attitude,it applies to them all though and I am sure many of Corrie's current cast make strong demands at times too.

The storylines for Bet on Corrie dried up largely after her association with Alec who she married in the series,therein likely lies the problem with any future return, really only Emily, Ken, Dierdre, Gail,Rita,Kevin and Sally are any vehicles for any storyline with Bet now.

For me, it is telling though, that her character has never been killed off by any producers of Corrie,she was a part of the 50th anniversary celebrations for Corrie and her character could walk onto the street anytime if it was thought mileage was in it.
Who knows what could come after CBB.
Cheryl Fergison for instance, on bbbots,said she loved Julie and was sure they would be doing something together in the future.

I guess it all boils down to whether people liked her character in Corrie, and also whether they like her or not as Julie or see her as irrelevant now.
I like her,as her character Bet and also as Julie the person,I see no wrong in what she has done in life or even what she is doing now on CBB.

In my own view,wanting the best for yourself and being a pain at times is not a crime and I have already seen and read so many lies and false accounts of peoples lives and careers in the press, the Sun and Mail as 2 of the worst offenders of that, to last me a lifetime and I am only 20 now.

Hey kazanne, never worry as to making a long post, you know how I can go on and on at times once I get going.
I generally always agree with you anyway and although we have different takes on matters Julie Goodyear,I will always respect and admire your balance and fairness.
I enjoyed reading it all and thanks for your response to my post as always.

it's all good Joey,we all have different opinions,i really liked her when she first arrived but sadly that has changed,as always a fair and balanced post:hugesmile:

[MrWong]

Condemning Julie based on tabloid articles?

That's just desperate.

[Ellen]

i think they meant the funeral in Corrie not in real life

I was responding to Nedusa's question asking which funeral or both, the post before said it was the corrie one & i replied to Nedusa with that she did attend Betty's real funeral.

[Nedusa]

Condemning Julie based on tabloid articles?

That's just desperate.

I agree , all she has done is to be one of the longest and best loved soap characters of all time. Anything else is gossip and conjecture. Unlike the skanky Danica whose only claim to fame has been to be part of a "rinsing/scamming" con aimed at taking money/ gifts from lonely gullible people.

Julie is a little rough round the edges but she is playing a good game in there..!!!

[Patricia4]

She is playing a great game and I like her doing it.

[funkime]

julie is the only honest housemate there! she tells it as she sees it, what you see is what you get! the only one playing a game in the house is martin..he is hoping by doing nothing and saying nothing and being all nicey nice to everyone that he will win...BORING!!!. Julie likes them all
so what?. How stupid and insensitive was colleen to repeat what jasmines mum called Danica last night? Danica and Julie the only two who saw through that silly woman.

[Nedusa]

julie is the only honest housemate there! she tells it as she sees it, what you see is what you get! the only one playing a game in the house is martin..he is hoping by doing nothing and saying nothing and being all nicey nice to everyone that he will win...BORING!!!. Julie likes them all
so what?. How stupid and insensitive was colleen to repeat what jasmines mum called Danica last night? Danica and Julie the only two who saw through that silly woman.

I know she is being honest, but she is still playing a game because as you have seen she is too honest and too nice to all the HM, she is being all things to everybody. We can see this, unlike most of the other HM she tends to have one to one chats where she professes her admiration for them or offers to be their "Rock".

Now we know from Julie's friends and aquaintences that she is not that sugary . So in my mind she is playing a game , an honest game but a game none the less.

And she is winning...!!!

[Cherie]

I thought she was asking Mike if he thought Danica was playing her so she would have an easy nom to make. I came to this conclusion after she was in the diary room saying she was dreading noms because she likes them all and bb asked, has anyone done anything to any other hm that would warrent a nomination. Who was her second nom?

I would have to watch it again to be 100% sure, but I believe she was asking him if he felt played, maybe someone else can confirm which way it was.

[chuff me dizzy]

julie is the only honest housemate there! she tells it as she sees it, what you see is what you get! the only one playing a game in the house is martin..he is hoping by doing nothing and saying nothing and being all nicey nice to everyone that he will win...BORING!!!. Julie likes them all
so what?. How stupid and insensitive was colleen to repeat what jasmines mum called Danica last night? Danica and Julie the only two who saw through that silly woman.

"Honest?" Im struggling to get my breath :shocked::shocked::shocked:

[chuff me dizzy]

I would have to watch it again to be 100% sure, but I believe she was asking him if he felt played, maybe someone else can confirm which way it was.

Yes, she did ask him if he felt he was being played

[Kizzy]

well some crazy ol bint won last year so....

[chuff me dizzy]

well some crazy ol bint won last year so....

A lot nicer than this twisted cow

[Kizzy]

A lot nicer than this twisted cow

In your opinion...

[jet]

julie is the only honest housemate there! she tells it as she sees it, what you see is what you get! the only one playing a game in the house is martin..he is hoping by doing nothing and saying nothing and being all nicey nice to everyone that he will win...BORING!!!. Julie likes them all
so what?. How stupid and insensitive was colleen to repeat what jasmines mum called Danica last night? Danica and Julie the only two who saw through that silly woman.

:thumbs:

[chuff me dizzy]

In your opinion...

Of course, just the same as what you say is YOUR opinion

[Kizzy]

Of course, just the same as what you say is YOUR opinion

No it isn't...It's gospel :)

[Kazanne]

Condemning Julie based on tabloid articles?

That's just desperate.

I'm 'condemning' her as you put it,for how she has been in the house,but it's not only tabloid articles that run these stories,is it?

[MrWong]

I'm 'condemning' her as you put it,for how she has been in the house,but it's not only tabloid articles that run these stories,is it?

Got anything solid then? Other than gossip and newspaper articles?

[Kazanne]

Got anything solid then? Other than gossip and newspaper articles?

There is no vaccine for stupidity,you know full well that it has been said by various people what she is like,but, you are just trying to annoy,go play with someone else:nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm 'condemning' her as you put it,for how she has been in the house,but it's not only tabloid articles that run these stories,is it?

Yes me too ,I had read things for years about her, but I have judged her 100% on how shes been in the house

[chuff me dizzy]

There is no vaccine for stupidity,you know full well that it has been said by various people what she is like,but, you are just trying to annoy,go play with someone else:nono:

This is why they are on blank with me :sleep:

[Kizzy]

There is no vaccine for stupidity,you know full well that it has been said by various people what she is like,but, you are just trying to annoy,go play with someone else:nono:

Thats a bit rude, and subjective.. I am not a fan myself but I can see that for every person that has a bad story there will be someone who has a good one?

[MrWong]

There is no vaccine for stupidity,you know full well that it has been said by various people what she is like,but, you are just trying to annoy,go play with someone else:nono:

No need to get personal.

It would have been easier to say 'No, i haven't'

[Nedusa]

This is why they are on blank with me :sleep:

What does "on blank with me" mean ??

[MrWong]

What does "on blank with me" mean ??

Chuff likes to pretend that she ignores me. Even though she's replied many times.

[chuff me dizzy]

What does "on blank with me" mean ??

Yes sounds a bit odd doesnt it ? :blush: ,I have certain members i blank on here ,i dont rise to the bait, just laugh at their desperation and move on

[Kazanne]

No need to get personal.

It would have been easier to say 'No, i haven't'

So are you REALLY trying to say you have not seen anyone on TV saying how she is? blimey not so much of a fan then:hugesmile:and like you never get personal?:joker:if the cap fits wear it.

[MrWong]

So are you REALLY trying to say you have not seen anyone on TV saying how she is? blimey not so much of a fan then:hugesmile:and like you never get personal?:joker:if the cap fits wear it.

I'm a fan of her on BB, couldn't give a stuff about her soap career.

Newspaper articles and tittle tattle is hardly convincing stuff. :joker:

[joeysteele]

I haven't heard or seen her do anything as to what I would call even underhand and definitely nasty as to anyone in the house.
Oddly enough most of the housemates don't see her that way too, in fact likely none do except Coleen who is one, along with her awful Sister Linda on bbbots and also Nina Myskov who have said anything really nasty as to Julie.

If anyone can point out what she has done that is so terrible in the house to warrant such dislike,I would like to learn of it because I for the life of me cannot say I have seen any example of rottenness from her in the house.

She doesn't force herself on people like Denise did last year with Michael, she appears to get on with them.
So what if she is though actually playing a game on BB, housemates playing a game on BB, surely not.
Every housemate since BB began have likely played part of a game at some time in the house.

I cannot find these lots of people who have said Julie is a personally rotten and nasty individual either, I have heard her called demanding and wanting some privileges in her work but where does that make her such a nasty person.
If being that way made you a bad person then there would be very few good people around in show business.
I have, (as to finding out actual professional people who have worked with Julie who have said such bad things as to her),googled and typed in several descriptions but nothing comes up, only the Nolans and Myskov,
Myskov who made a career from being truly rotten and insulting to people on all shows she has been on,I will not put much faith in her statements as to anyone, she should reflect them to herself.
I will also certainly never put much faith in Coleen either after her dramatic and instant turnaround on the highlights last night as to Julie.There is someone more likely being really false in the house.

[DigitalMethod]

Dont know anything about this Julie person aside from what i've seen on the show. And i have to say, she is amazing.

Some of you are so quick to pull out the "Game player" card without stopping to think. It appears that if someone so much as sneezes the wrong way they are playing a game to this board.

As for Julie's reputation on the outside you guys keep talking about. It's just that, a reputation. In my opinion Julie doesn't look at BB as a job, she seems to be there to make friends. Separating someones personal life from their professional is what should be considered here. if Julie is a headstrong woman who knows what she wants and how to get it in her professional life then more power to her.

I dont think she is playing a game... and even if she was, good for her. Their celebs, the game was won when they signed that contract to be in there. Whatever they choose to do to raise their profile on the outside is whatever they choose do. At the end of the day, if Julie really is this Legend you Brits keep claiming she is then her legacy has already surpassed anything BB could ever offer to her Career.

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[chuff me dizzy]

Dont know anything about this Julie person aside from what i've seen on the show. And i have to say, she is amazing.

Some of you are so quick to pull out the "Game player" card without stopping to think. It appears that if someone so much as sneezes the wrong way they are playing a game to this board.

As for Julie's reputation on the outside you guys keep talking about. It's just that, a reputation. In my opinion Julie doesn't look at BB as a job, she seems to be there to make friends. Separating someones personal life from their professional is what should be considered here. if Julie is a headstrong woman who knows what she wants and how to get it in her professional life then more power to her.

I dont think she is playing a game... and even if she was, good for her. Their celebs, the game was won when they signed that contract to be in there. Whatever they choose to do to raise their profile on the outside is whatever they choose do. At the end of the day, if Julie really is this Legend you Brits keep claiming she is then her legacy has already surpassed anything BB could ever offer to her Career.

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Oh dear :shocked::whistle::sad:

[Ellen]

Dont know anything about this Julie person aside from what i've seen on the show. And i have to say, she is amazing.

Some of you are so quick to pull out the "Game player" card without stopping to think. It appears that if someone so much as sneezes the wrong way they are playing a game to this board.

As for Julie's reputation on the outside you guys keep talking about. It's just that, a reputation. In my opinion Julie doesn't look at BB as a job, she seems to be there to make friends. Separating someones personal life from their professional is what should be considered here. if Julie is a headstrong woman who knows what she wants and how to get it in her professional life then more power to her.

I dont think she is playing a game... and even if she was, good for her. Their celebs, the game was won when they signed that contract to be in there. Whatever they choose to do to raise their profile on the outside is whatever they choose do. At the end of the day, if Julie really is this Legend you Brits keep claiming she is then her legacy has already surpassed anything BB could ever offer to her Career.

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[MeMyselfAndI]

It's hilarious how dumb she thinks the viewers are

[Kazanne]

It's hilarious how dumb she thinks the viewers are

And she'de be right in some cases:hugesmile:

[chuff me dizzy]

Vote here for biggest gameplayer, LOTS saying Julie


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[DigitalMethod]

Oh dear :shocked::whistle::sad:i hope this board is therapeutic for you cause judging from 3 different series of BB, you generally seem to harbor way to much hate and resentment for people on a TV show. #justsayin


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[chuff me dizzy]

i hope this board is therapeutic for you cause judging from 3 different series of BB, you generally seem to harbor way to much hate and resentment for people on a TV show. #justsayin


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Oh its very good for the soul esp on finals night and folk like Deana lose ,it renews my faith in human nature

[MrWong]

i hope this board is therapeutic for you cause judging from 3 different series of BB, you generally seem to harbor way to much hate and resentment for people on a TV show. #justsayin


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:joker: Love your gifs DM.

[DigitalMethod]

Oh its very good for the soul esp on finals night and folk like Deana lose ,it renews my faith in human natureGood, im glad that you can see the silver lining... I mean how could it not completely restore your faith in 'human nature' when a housemate you hated so much made it to the finals and only managed to come 3rd. It's not like the public u have faith in had a chance to kick Deana out at any another other eviction night, right? Thank god the public got her out the first chance they could. http://www.afterld.com/forum/images/smilies/cyn.gif

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@MrWong: Thank you.

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[Nedusa]

Dont know anything about this Julie person aside from what i've seen on the show. And i have to say, she is amazing.

Some of you are so quick to pull out the "Game player" card without stopping to think. It appears that if someone so much as sneezes the wrong way they are playing a game to this board.

As for Julie's reputation on the outside you guys keep talking about. It's just that, a reputation. In my opinion Julie doesn't look at BB as a job, she seems to be there to make friends. Separating someones personal life from their professional is what should be considered here. if Julie is a headstrong woman who knows what she wants and how to get it in her professional life then more power to her.

I dont think she is playing a game... and even if she was, good for her. Their celebs, the game was won when they signed that contract to be in there. Whatever they choose to do to raise their profile on the outside is whatever they choose do. At the end of the day, if Julie really is this Legend you Brits keep claiming she is then her legacy has already surpassed anything BB could ever offer to her Career.

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Parts of what you say I agree with but for the record I'd love to know in what way is Julie ..... "Amazing"

Is the cursing or swearing or her other ladylike qualities like sitting with her legs around her neck or her choice in Mature ladies Bra's perhaps.

Or could it be the way she is playing one HM off against the other. Or the diplomatic way she voiced her feelings when the shopping returned minus the Butter.

Perhaps the way she announced she was going steal and destroy the ciggies from Jasmines Mum. Are these all the ways she is "amazing" ??

Food for thought...!!!!

[DigitalMethod]

Parts of what you say I agree with but for the record I'd love to know in what way is Julie ..... "Amazing"

Is the cursing or swearing or her other ladylike qualities like sitting with her legs around her neck or her choice in Mature ladies Bra's perhaps.

Or could it be the way she is playing one HM off against the other. Or the diplomatic way she voiced her feelings when the shopping returned minus the Butter.

Perhaps the way she announced she was going steal and destroy the ciggies from Jasmines Mum. Are these all the ways she is "amazing" ??

Food for thought...!!!!What defines "Amazing" is a matter of opinion. And the funny thing is, YES, all those reasons u listed are what makes her an AMAZING housemate in my eyes. How she sits and what kinda bra she does or doesnt have on is a laughable excuse for someone to dislike her and claim she is playing a game. How she responded to the butter is another stupid reason for why anyone would think she is the biggest game player, cause if she was playing a game she would have kept cool, calm and collected.
LOL at her playing housemates against each other. Please give me specific examples that dont include the Jasmine/Rhian indecent. I'll make it easy for you, give me 3 specific examples.
And "Steal" and destroy that woman's ciggs? HAHAH A: You clearly lack a sense of humor and B: You need to learn the definition of stealing.

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I can list many reasons why i find Julie to be an amazingly entertaining housemate, but the main one above all the others is her delivery. Julie delivers the most smooth, sleek one liners of any other housemates in there, in fact she puts Julian to shame. She does it with such poise and moxy and without a drip of irony. And most of the time it literally only takes one word. Like when Mike asked if her boobs are real and she literally tilted her head and said "no", without the slightest of grins. She cut right into his comment so deep he had to take a step back.

Its those subtle moments which i think fly's over most peoples heads that makes her so hilarious in my eyes.

I'm here because im watching a TV show and Julie, in my eyes delivers great TV. This is all a matter of opinion.

The funny thing to me is, Julie isnt even my favorite in the house. I just find some of the reasons in this thread to be extremely laughable and a prime example of people reading way to much into things and making something out of nothing.

My opinion on this woman comes with absolutely no bias. And I believe its that simple fact that makes my opinion on her a valid one. If you choose to disagree then so be it. She's still cream of the crop, along with a handful of others in there.

[joeysteele]

Julie is amazing, she is 70 years old, clearlyshe is no fashion icon, she is not spending loads of time in the house putting on make-up, she helps around the house, she was also right, crumpets are no good without butter, yes she curses and swears, as do the vast majority and near all the other housemates too,,in all series of BB.
I haven't seen her playing one housemate off against another, she supported Jasmine,true, at the same time as supporting her, she didn't go against Rhian or Danica though,still prepared to be friendly to them and listen to them.
As she does with all the housemates.

She went straight to Coleen when Coleen was upset after the last eviction,even following Coleens less than gracious comments about and to her.
They are not the actions of a nasty person.

As for Jasmines Mother, good that she said throw her cigs in the pool,it's a pity someone hadn't thrown Jasmine and her Mother in the pool for their total nastiness and vile behaviour.
Julie didn't steal the cigs anyway, the daft woman left them in the house so pre-occupied was she in making horrible and personal insults about Danica with her rotten daughter pulling the strings.

If they are the reasons that Julie shouldn't be liked, then all I can say is those so called examples of her being nasty, only are likely to make me like her more.

[Nedusa]

What defines "Amazing" is a matter of opinion. And the funny thing is, YES, all those reasons u listed are what makes her an AMAZING housemate in my eyes. How she sits and what kinda bra she does or doesnt have on is a laughable excuse for someone to dislike her and claim she is playing a game. How she responded to the butter is another stupid reason for why anyone would think she is the biggest game player, cause if she was playing a game she would have kept cool, calm and collected.
LOL at her playing housemates against each other. Please give me specific examples that dont include the Jasmine/Rhian indecent. I'll make it easy for you, give me 3 specific examples.
And "Steal" and destroy that woman's ciggs? HAHAH A: You clearly lack a sense of humor and B: You need to learn the definition of stealing.

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I can list many reasons why i find Julie to be an amazingly entertaining housemate, but the main one above all the others is her delivery. Julie delivers the most smooth, sleek one liners of any other housemates in there, in fact she puts Julian to shame. She does it with such poise and moxy and without a drip of irony. And most of the time it literally only takes one word. Like when Mike asked if her boobs are real and she literally tilted her head and said "no", without the slightest of grins. She cut right into his comment so deep he had to take a step back.

Its those subtle moments which i think fly's over most peoples heads that makes her so hilarious in my eyes.

I'm here because im watching a TV show and Julie, in my eyes delivers great TV. This is all a matter of opinion.

The funny thing to me is, Julie isnt even my favorite in the house. I just find some of the reasons in this thread to be extremely laughable and a prime example of people reading way to much into things and making something out of nothing.

My opinion on this woman comes with absolutely no bias. And I believe its that simple fact that makes my opinion on her a valid one. If you choose to disagree then so be it. She's still cream of the crop, along with a handful of others in there.

OK ... OK it's obvious to me reading your last post that you put a lotta work into explaining your reasons for saying she is amazing, and to be honest there's not a lot of what you say that I can really find fault with.

Her rough northern edgy risqué manner clearly you find endearing and that's fine because at the end of the day it all comes down to personal choice.

So leaving aside the comments I made which I suppose focused on her Physical character traits, I still maintain my view as written in my OP that Julie is still playing a game to Win CBB. Nothing wrong with that I hear you and yes there is nothing wrong with playing a game , it is a gameshow at the end of the day.

So good luck to her , she is I hear now the bookies Favourite to win..!!!

[lostalex]

:joker: Love your gifs DM.

he is the master :worship:

[boomoo]

She has even now got Coleen onside judging by Coleens comments in the DR. So it looks as if our biggest Gameplayer has got all the HM
Hoodwinked. So she's unlikely to be nominated. But can the viewing public be convinced so easily, she may find that when push comes to shove other bigger HM like Julian, Martin eg are more loved and will beat her in the final vote...!!!

I don't think she will win but she should be in the final because she is more interesting than most of the others. It is important to remember that we only see one hour of so called highlights. Those are chosen by the people viewing the whole 24 hours.
Coleen coming round to seeing Julie in a different light could well mean that Coleen is the biggest gameplayer. That is, she asked herself why the crowd booed her. She drew the conclusion it must be because she was saying Julie was fake. I think she got that wrong, she was booed because she was miserable.
Most people have never seen Julie as Bette Lynch.They can only judge her on what she does on CBB. For that reason she will probably not win.

[Nedusa]

Julie is amazing, she is 70 years old, clearlyshe is no fashion icon, she is not spending loads of time in the house putting on make-up, she helps around the house, she was also right, crumpets are no good without butter, yes she curses and swears, as do the vast majority and near all the other housemates too,,in all series of BB.
I haven't seen her playing one housemate off against another, she supported Jasmine,true, at the same time as supporting her, she didn't go against Rhian or Danica though,still prepared to be friendly to them and listen to them.
As she does with all the housemates.

She went straight to Coleen when Coleen was upset after the last eviction,even following Coleens less than gracious comments about and to her.
They are not the actions of a nasty person.

As for Jasmines Mother, good that she said throw her cigs in the pool,it's a pity someone hadn't thrown Jasmine and her Mother in the pool for their total nastiness and vile behaviour.
Julie didn't steal the cigs anyway, the daft woman left them in the house so pre-occupied was she in making horrible and personal insults about Danica with her rotten daughter pulling the strings.

If they are the reasons that Julie shouldn't be liked, then all I can say is those so called examples of her being nasty, only are likely to make me like her more.

What you say is quite accurate re Julie , my comment re playing one HM off agai st the other was more really to do with her lying to both Jasmine and Rhian by saying they were her no.1 , clearly they both can't be.

From your last post and the posts of a few others you paint a picture of an honest , genuine, funny , eccentric character who is true to her word and is a genuine likeable character.

Strange then , that a large number of posts on this thread take a rather different view with Julie Goodyear. They maintain she is a vile loathsome creature. Now I know not everyone can agree but these views are very far apart.

So I guess she is a Marmite character , a love her or hate her figure.

But Regardless of which she really is, she is still playing a good game in there.

[lostalex]

She looks like a Frankenstein made out of mongoloid parts.

She thinks the funniest thing she's ever seen is a gay dude putting jam on his face.

She hasn't impressed me.

[showtime77]

If Julie is the biggest game player then congratulations to her. It is a game show and everyone is playing it. If you don't consider how you come across on television then you are a fool. May the most entertaining house mate win!

[Nedusa]

If Julie is the biggest game player then congratulations to her. It is a game show and everyone is playing it. If you don't consider how you come across on television then you are a fool. May the most entertaining house mate win!

Right, your the first person in over 100 posts to actually raise the question of how she is coming across on TV. Never mind about how genuine she is or how entertaining she is , the cold hard facts are that this once highly respected icon of British TV has sold her soul to go onto a reality TV show in which she has to try and be more real, more popular, more amusing than all the others to win.

I maintain she could have been "amazing" , funny and warm without all the swearing and shouting, after all millions of people will judge her on her time in the house. Her image could be seriously harmed by this 3 week experience and all for a few grand.

Whether she wins or not lets hope it was worth it for her in the long term...!!!

[DigitalMethod]

OK ... OK it's obvious to me reading your last post that you put a lotta work into explaining your reasons for saying she is amazing, and to be honest there's not a lot of what you say that I can really find fault with.

Her rough northern edgy risqué manner clearly you find endearing and that's fine because at the end of the day it all comes down to personal choice.

So leaving aside the comments I made which I suppose focused on her Physical character traits, I still maintain my view as written in my OP that Julie is still playing a game to Win CBB. Nothing wrong with that I hear you and yes there is nothing wrong with playing a game , it is a gameshow at the end of the day.

So good luck to her , she is I hear now the bookies Favourite to win..!!!

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I respect your opinion on Julie, i suppose alot of what i find appealing about her is a matter of taste. I still dont think she's playing more of a game than anyone else in the house.

[Nedusa]

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I respect your opinion on Julie, i suppose alot of what i find appealing about her is a matter of taste. I still dont think she's playing more of a game than anyone else in the house.

Just wondering if you would care to revise you position re Julie after watching her on tonight's show creeping around the boys asking them if they thought they were being played . This is clearly game playing as it is seeking to focus the mind on the upcoming nominations.

Clearly these type of exchanges are designed to gently nudge the guys Nomination choices in one particular direction.

If it sounds like game playing and looks like game playing it probably is game playing .... Q.E.D.....!!!!

[mr rochester]

I noticed that Julie said she did not drink when she entered the house. In last night's show she started to say to Martin - 'I drank gin and tonic' - then changed it to 'No - I didn't drink it - Bet drank gin and tonic.' I thought this was odd...Has she had a drink problem in the past? I got the sense that she let her mask slip a little at that moment then tried to pull herself back...

[Vanessa]

I love Julie! She doesn't take any nonsense. She's going to bring users Danica and Rhian down! :worship: