Credible Cardle strikes again!

[Apple202]

Since winning the X Factor in 2010, Matt Cardle had to watch on as third place runner's up One Direction took the world by storm, leaving him in their wake.

Matt's opinion on the X Factor has been well documented, taking every opportunity available to him to distance himself from the reality show.

Talking to The Mirror's Dean Piper today, Matt admitted that his initial record deal with Syco and Columbia was never going to work because unlike One Direction, he was far too independent.

He said: "I was never going to be your JLS or One Direction, where songs are written for them and you're a puppet."

"I was always a different guy. People behind the scenes knew I wasn't some puppet and I never felt like one."

When it emerged in the press that Matt had parted ways with the Sony label, people assumed it was because he had been dropped.

Matt however has set the record straight, saying that he had made the decision to leave.

He explained: "I was given the opportunity to stay at Sony, do some writing and 'see how it was going to go' or walk away and go it alone. And I chose to walk."

Matt's debut album 'Letters', although selling well, didn't even come close to surpassing the UK sales of Rebecca Ferguson and One Direction's albums.

The singer is adamant, however, that his album was not the flop people have made it out to be.

He stated: "With a major record label it works for some people and not for others. It did work for me initially and it's not like I sold 10 copies. I went platinum and sold over 300,000 copies. That's not a flop."

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/matt-cardle-one-direction-jls-puppets-120039399.html

What an arrogant arsehole :laugh:

[Black Dagger]

JLS and 1D are awful human beings he has a point.

[reece(:]

Everyone mentioned in the article are awful human beings ^

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm not a fan of his music but he does have a point

[MeMyselfAndI]

Its actually sold under 300K to the public :elephant:

[InOne]

I made a thread on here years ago saying he would flop.


InOne is always right.

[Kazanne]

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/matt-cardle-one-direction-jls-puppets-120039399.html

What an arrogant arsehole :laugh:

Why is that arrogant??he wants to write his own stuff and a good job he does too,the review of his new album coming out in October is really good so unless you actually sit and listen to some of the stuff why diss him?The XFactor gave him the platform he needed,he doesn't want songs written for him as ID etc,nothing wrong with that at all,it's taken him ages to do this second album so he obviously takes his music seriously.

[Kazanne]

I made a thread on here years ago saying he would flop.


InOne is always right.

But he hasn't flopped InOne just because someone is not in the charts all the time does not make them a flop,his second album is due out soon,maybe you should take a listen before condemning people.:hugesmile:

[Apple202]

But he hasn't flopped InOne just because someone is not in the charts all the time does not make them a flop,his second album is due out soon,maybe you should take a listen before condemning people.:hugesmile:

He has flopped though, InOne's right.

His first single charted at #6 which isn't great for an X Factor winner and then his second completely failed at #185 and his thread at #84. His album didn't sell 300k either, it shipped 300k.

[fruit_cake]

One Direction were always the best in that series

[Jordan.]

What did he think he was auditioning for :crazy:

Stay writing your own flop songs Matt, it's fine by me.

[Maia]

As people have said he does have a point. Good guy really not being a sellout like JLS/One Direction.

[Joelle.]

He has a point about 1D and JLS, but he is clearly bitter about their success when he has got virtually nowhere. I don't see how he didn't realise he was destroying his 'credibility' the moment he applied to audition.

The only good thing to come out of that series was Rebecca and Wagner :love:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Why is that arrogant??he wants to write his own stuff and a good job he does too,the review of his new album coming out in October is really good so unless you actually sit and listen to some of the stuff why diss him?The XFactor gave him the platform he needed,he doesn't want songs written for him as ID etc,nothing wrong with that at all,it's taken him ages to do this second album so he obviously takes his music seriously.

How exactly has It taken him ages?

[Mystic Mock]

Aiden was always the better Indie singer that year.

But he does have a point but he does need to not come across so bitter about it, and also he flopped as soon as he slagged off TXF fans, a very stupid move.

[Kazanne]

Whether people call him a flop or not is irrelevent to people who like him,I wouldn't call him a flop as he is still producing albums and doing it his way,good on him,lots of musicians work for years without No 1s,etc,personly If I like the music I don't CARE how many 'top albums etc' anyone has had,why do some people love to diss people who are trying to do well in their craft,maybe it's because they are better!I also like 1D who's music is controlled by outsiders.Music is music and each to their own.

[Joelle.]

How exactly has he taken his time with his second album. Its released next month, just 12 months after Letters. If anything i'd say he's rushed it.

That's like saying Rihanna puts a lot of time and effort into her music. :laugh:

[Kazanne]

How exactly has he taken his time with his second album. Its released next month, just 12 months after Letters. If anything i'd say he's rushed it.

That's like saying Rihanna puts a lot of time and effort into her music. :laugh:

Of course he's taken his time in the context of the songs could have been manufactured and written for him,he could have released several albums as others do ,some of the stuff for this album has taken well over a year,it's released on October 29th if you want to whizz off and buy it.:xyxwave:

[Kazanne]

Aiden was always the better Indie singer that year.

But he does have a point but he does need to not come across so bitter about it, and also he flopped as soon as he slagged off TXF fans, a very stupid move.

Mocky,lol,I'm surprised you believe everything that's written:hugesmile:

[Mystic Mock]

Whether people call him a flop or not is irrelevent to people who like him,I wouldn't call him a flop as he is still producing albums and doing it his way,good on him,lots of musicians work for years without No 1s,etc,personly If I like the music I don't CARE how many 'top albums etc' anyone has had,why do some people love to diss people who are trying to do well in their craft,maybe it's because they are better!I also like 1D who's music is controlled by outsiders.Music is music and each to their own.

I get what your saying Kazanne but he does seem to be bitter that his not been as big as he was told that he was going to be.

[Kazanne]

I get what your saying Kazanne but he does seem to be bitter that his not been as big as he was told that he was going to be.

He'll make it Mocky,just watch this space,it all takes time,no good rushing in head first:xyxwave:

[Mystic Mock]

Mocky,lol,I'm surprised you believe everything that's written:hugesmile:

I don't believe everything that's written:joker:, I just remember when Aiden got eliminated he did think he owned the show and he told the public that Wagner should've gone proving that he couldn't keep his mouth shut, it's always been a problem for him sadly otherwise he could've been the first male X Factor winner to have done well.

[fruit_cake]

Seems to me that all Matt did was screech for 12 weeks. It was a mass halucination that he was actually talented imo

[Joelle.]

Oh and there were at least 6 or 7 people that year who should have won ahead of Matt.

[Cherie]

Fine be snobby about the X...but don't audition for it...win it (by people actually wasting their hard earned cash on voting for you), and then decide to be snobby... he comes across as a bit of a knob really.

[Kazanne]

Well your all nasty pasties,I like him and that is all that matters to me:hugesmile:he's not a snob either btw.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Shayne did well Mock, SyCo just screwed him over on his third album

[MeMyselfAndI]

I like Matt & actually own his album, but he is.
Hes done worse than ALL the other finalists(Rebecca, 1D & Cher)

[MeMyselfAndI]

I like Matt & actually own his album, but he is.
Hes done worse than ALL the other finalists(Rebecca, 1D & Cher)

[Black Dagger]

Oh and there were at least 6 or 7 people that year who should have won ahead of Matt.

Yeah, still not over Wagner not making it to the final. :bored:

[Joelle.]

Wagner is one of those 6 :laugh:

[InOne]

But he hasn't flopped InOne just because someone is not in the charts all the time does not make them a flop,his second album is due out soon,maybe you should take a listen before condemning people.:hugesmile:

As much as he makes you wet Kazanne (which seemed to be the main reason women loved him on here) you can't deny facts. And the fact is he flopped, most likely down to his attitude problem.

[LemonJam]

Talking to The Mirror's Dean Piper today, Matt admitted that his initial record deal with Syco and Columbia was never going to work because unlike One Direction, he was far too independent.

He said: "I was never going to be your JLS or One Direction, where songs are written for them and you're a puppet."

"I was always a different guy. People behind the scenes knew I wasn't some puppet and I never felt like one."

When it emerged in the press that Matt had parted ways with the Sony label, people assumed it was because he had been dropped.

Matt however has set the record straight, saying that he had made the decision to leave.

He explained: "I was given the opportunity to stay at Sony, do some writing and 'see how it was going to go' or walk away and go it alone. And I chose to walk."

i'm sorry but what the actual **** did he think he was auditioning for? Does this guy have braincells?

[Joelle.]

He did flop in comparison to the other finalists, but its all relative. I suppose we can't really compare anyone's record sales to those of One Direction since they have an army of borderline psychotic fans who would buy their music regardless of how **** it was (it all is).

[Saph]

He was never that good anyway.. anyone could see he was a flop.

[Saph]

And I chose to walk.

and you keep telling yourself that, Matt.

[Kazanne]

As much as he makes you wet Kazanne (which seemed to be the main reason women loved him on here) you can't deny facts. And the fact is he flopped, most likely down to his attitude problem.

What a disgusting analogy to have of people that like him,not worth debating with someone who just thinks about the 'look' of people.:nono:

[InOne]

Oh please :joker:

[Apple202]

What a disgusting analogy to have of people that like him,not worth debating with someone who just thinks about the 'look' of people.:nono:

Oh come on. It's true, and everyone knows it.

[Kazanne]

Oh come on. It's true, and everyone knows it.

If you say so dear:pat:

[Shaun]

rofl chose to walk my arse

[Mystic Mock]

Shayne did well Mock, SyCo just screwed him over on his third album

Shayne was not as big as they wanted him to be though, that's why they screwed him over on his third album.

[Niamh.]

How is that arrogant? :conf:

[Mystic Mock]

How is that arrogant? :conf:

He does think that his to good for The X Factor, or his making himself come across that way.

[Niamh.]

He does think that his to good for The X Factor, or his making himself come across that way.

I think he's saying he's different to the usual X Factor pop acts which is true imo He was never going to appeal to the type of fans 1D and JLS have

[Mystic Mock]

I think he's saying he's different to the usual X Factor pop acts which is true imo He was never going to appeal to the type of fans 1D and JLS have

You could say that but I think his bitter that he hasn't had the success that those two groups have had.

[Niamh.]

You could say that but I think his bitter that he hasn't had the success that those two groups have had.

I don't know, I'm sure he realised his limitations

[Kazanne]

I think he's saying he's different to the usual X Factor pop acts which is true imo He was never going to appeal to the type of fans 1D and JLS have

He was always different Niamh,that is why I liked him,I don't think he's bitter at all,he wants to make it on his own and in his own way and he has said today the remark he was 'supposed' to have said about 1D and JLS being puppets is not true,although if you think about it they are puppets as much as I like 1D(I have to,my daughter loves them)lol.Matt works hard I hope it pays off for him by all accounts 'The Fire' is really good,I will be buying it.:xyxwave:

[MeMyselfAndI]

lol he failed of getting a fraction of Leonas career

[Mystic Mock]

lol he failed of getting a fraction of Leonas career

Tbf I only think the last ever X Factor will produce a winner that's gonna have a fraction of Leona's success.

[fruit_cake]

He does seem a bit angry about everything

[Niamh.]

lol he failed of getting a fraction of Leonas career

Well, that remains to be seen, success imo is more about longevity, not saying he's going to have that but he appeals to different people than Leona does

[Tom4784]

He's a flop and a fool, you can't be a credible artist and be apart of the X Factor. He's just as bad as the artists he's slamming, in fact you could say he's probably worse since he's a giant hypocrite on top of it all.

[MeMyselfAndI]

You can be a credible artist

[fruit_cake]

Steve Brookstein's probably enjoying all this

[Niamh.]

Steve Brookstein's probably enjoying all this

:laugh:

[Joelle.]

Steve Brookstein's probably enjoying all this

He, Joe and Leon will be having a party to celebrate.

[Withano]

He has a point about 1D and JLS, but he is clearly bitter about their success when he has got virtually nowhere. I don't see how he didn't realise he was destroying his 'credibility' the moment he applied to audition.

The only good thing to come out of that series was Rebecca and Wagner :love:

Let's be bffs.

[MTVN]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you :idc: