USA Representatives passes deal before markets open

[arista]

[Fiscal cliff deal in danger of unravelling
A deal to reverse the effects of America's fall over the "fiscal cliff" is hanging in the balance after Republicans in the House of Representatives rebelled over the lack of spending cuts.]


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/9774766/Fiscal-cliff-deal-in-danger-of-unravelling.html


Yesterday the President said the Deal was made
but now before the Markets Open,
the tricky Republicans Demand cuts to be included.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/01/fiscal-cliff-threat-house-republicans

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/1/1/1357083035234/John-Boehner-Eric-Cantor-008.jpg
Double Cross




Sign Of The Times.

[Marcus.]

oh dear

[BBfanUSA]

Then why is CNN saying that the House has passed a Fiscal Cliff Deal?

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20886182

The US House of Representatives has passed a Senate-backed deal to stave off a "fiscal cliff" of drastic taxation and spending measures.

The deal, passed in the House late on Tuesday by 257 votes to 167, now needs to be signed by the president.

There had been intense pressure for the vote to be passed before financial markets reopened on Wednesday.

Some House Republicans had wanted to amend the bill to add more spending cuts, but dropped this idea.

In the event, 172 Democrats and 85 Republicans voted in favour of the bill, which raises taxes for the wealthy, but delays cuts in spending for two months to allow a wider agreement.

Jes' lookin' after business fer the folks back home, son ..... :cool:

:rolleyes:

[arista]

Then why is CNN saying that the House has passed a Fiscal Cliff Deal?



Thats due to the Thread
being made hours before you posted.

[Kizzy]

So in America and France the wealthy are expected to contribute a fair share... What an unusual concept, can't see that happening here.

[Jesus.]

So in America and France the wealthy are expected to contribute a fair share... What an unusual concept, can't see that happening here.

Only in France. The tax rate in the us is still under 40%, and benefits will also be cut too. Capital gains tax is still under 15%, so wall street wealth will be unaffected.

[Omah]

Only in France. The tax rate in the us is still under 40%, and benefits will also be cut too. Capital gains tax is still under 15%, so wall street wealth will be unaffected.

Quelle surprise ..... :rolleyes:

[BBfanUSA]

Dow Jones already up 200 points since it got passed. Ha.

[the truth]

Only in France. The tax rate in the us is still under 40%, and benefits will also be cut too. Capital gains tax is still under 15%, so wall street wealth will be unaffected.

do you care?

[Jesus.]

do you care?

Yes, I do.

I take it you don'?

[the truth]

Yes, I do.

I take it you don'?

I do yes, Im amazed you claim to care about poor people. wow.

[Jesus.]

I do yes, Im amazed you claim to care about poor people. wow.

Really? Why?

[the truth]

Really? Why?

Because of your posts.

[Jesus.]

Because of your posts.

Again, really?

I think anyone that actually knows who I am on here would disagree with you. But your posts are normally spot on, so of course I'd be happy to accept your findings.

Did you enjoy my birthday?

[the truth]

Again, really?

I think anyone that actually knows who I am on here would disagree with you. But your posts are normally spot on, so of course I'd be happy to accept your findings.

Did you enjoy my birthday?

I think your response sums up perfectly why I am amazed you claim to care about anyone

[Jesus.]

I think your response sums up perfectly why I am amazed you claim to care about anyone

And why is that, my good man?

Shouldn't you just turn the other cheek and forgive me?

Pray for me.

[the truth]

And why is that, my good man?

Shouldn't you just turn the other cheek and forgive me?

Pray for me.

Ok attention seeker,glad to hear you repent, Ill include you in my prayers for your sins.

[Jesus.]

Ok attention seeker,glad to hear you repent, Ill include you in my prayers for your sins.

There's no such thing as sin. How can you call me an attention seeker when you come in here baiting and looking for an argument?

[the truth]

There's no such thing as sin. How can you call me an attention seeker when you come in here baiting and looking for an argument?

and you dont? lol:joker:

[Jesus.]

and you dont? lol:joker:

I suggest you re-read this thread.

[the truth]

I suggest you re-read this thread.

I dont need to thanks. Glad you have asked for me to pray for you though.

[Jesus.]

I dont need to thanks. Glad you have asked for me to pray for you though.

A genuinely serious question - Do you believe in the Adam and Eve story?

[the truth]

A genuinely serious question - Do you believe in the Adam and Eve story?

genuinely serious questions, 1)do you think youve made best use of your education (and supposed intelligence) by posting anti christian rhetoric on a big brother website 365 days a year? 2) of all the thouands of butchers, murderers, despots, dictators and murderers in history , do you think attacking the most beloved pacificist in history was really the best person to target? why do you hate the fact he gives inspiration love and hope to billions of the poor people you claim to care about? 3) being as you hate religion and wish to tear it down, why dont you attack all other religions and mock them equallly? would you for example wear slogans mocking the prophet mohammad on websites and perhaps in person too? if not why not? or is hypocrissy and cowardice added to your long list of sins?

[Jesus.]

genuinely serious questions, 1)do you think youve made best use of your education (and supposed intelligence) by posting anti christian rhetoric on a big brother website 365 days a year? 2) of all the thouands of butchers, murderers, despots, dictators and murderers in history , do you think attacking the most beloved pacificist in history was really the best person to target? why do you hate the fact he gives inspiration love and hope to billions of the poor people you claim to care about? 3) being as you hate religion and wish to tear it down, why dont you attack all other religions and mock them equallly? would you for example wear slogans mocking the prophet mohammad on websites and perhaps in person too? if not why not? or is hypocrissy and cowardice added to your long list of sins?

Well I asked the first question, so I really would have expected a response.

1) Depends what you define as "best". I've found a path through life that seems to suit me, and I'm happy with my education.

2) Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

I don't hate Jesus, or anyone.

3) I'm not really interested in the false hope he offers others. All I do is critique the ideas. If I believed in some crazy stuff, I'd expect people to point out the holes in my arguments.

The problem you have, is that you don't really offer anything back. You call me names and make desperate appeals, such as "Why oh why do you want to stop poor people from finding Jesus?" etc. Well, if these women were allowed control of their own reproductive systems, then we'd all be better off. It's not atheists that prevent this.

Let me state this clearly for you. Again.

Mohammed was a paedophile who had sex with a 9yr old girl.

What does that change? I've stated clearly for you on numerous times that I don't go on to atheist websites or Christian websites, so why would I go on Islamic ones?

[the truth]

Well I asked the first question, so I really would have expected a response.

1) Depends what you define as "best". I've found a path through life that seems to suit me, and I'm happy with my education.

- AVOIDED THE QUESTION. ALSO ANSWERING A QUESTION THAT WASNT EVEN ASKED. SO TYPICAL.

2) Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

METAPHORICAL AS YOU NOW. JESUS DIDNT PICK UP A SWORD NOR DID HE KILL A MAN. YOU OF COURSE TAKE QUOTES OUT OF CONTEXT, USING 21ST CENTURY INTERPRETATION OF WORDS YOUCHOOSE TO PICKI OUT. THE WORD WAS NOT A WEAPON HERE , NOR DID JESUS EVER ASK PEOPLE TO LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE WITH SWORDS, THE SWORD WAS A METAPHOR FOR DIVIDING PEOPLE AS YOUPROBABLY KNOW. STARNGE HOW YOU IGNORE HIS ENDLESS DIVINE MESSAGES OF HOPE CHARITY, TRUTH, HONOUR COURAGE AND LOVE. CLEARLY THESE GREAT MESSAGES AND HIGH IDEALS ARE SOMETHING YOU WISH TO DESTROY. WHY?

Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

STILL PLAYING DUMB AND TWISTING THE MEANING OF HIS WORDS. AS YOU KNOW JESUS MEANT IF YOU LOVE ANYONE MORE THAN HIM OR GOD YOU CANNOT BE HIS DISCIPLE.

I don't hate Jesus, or anyone.

3) I'm not really interested in the false hope he offers others. All I do is critique the ideas. If I believed in some crazy stuff, I'd expect people to point out the holes in my arguments.

YOU MAY CALL IT FALSE HOPE, BILLIONS DISAGREE. THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO ALL OF THESEPEOPLE. HOW IS HONOURING YOUR PARENTS, LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOURS, FORGIVING, HOW HIS SEEKING TRUTH AND HONOUR AND LOVE FALSE HOPE? ITS NOT AN ARGUMENT? WHY DO YOU FEEL EVERYTHING IS JUST A SHALLOW MATTER OF EGO AND PROVING EACH OTHER RIGHT OR WRONG...THIS IS A MATTER OF MORAL CHOICE.

The problem you have, is that you don't really offer anything back. You call me names and make desperate appeals, such as "Why oh why do you want to stop poor people from finding Jesus?" etc. Well, if these women were allowed control of their own reproductive systems, then we'd all be better off. It's not atheists that prevent this.

WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TLAKINGABOUT HERE? TOTALLY INCOHERENT RAMBLING.

Let me state this clearly for you. Again.

Mohammed was a paedophile who had sex with a 9yr old girl.

DONT STATE IT TO ME, GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST WEARING YOUR ANTI RELIGION T-SHIRTS AND OTHER WESBSITES TO PROVE YOURE NOT A COWARDLY HYPOCRITE. OH I FORGOT YOU ONLY DO IT HERE BECAUSE CHRISTIANS ARE SO FORGIVING. THAT DOESNT MAKE YOURE ANTI-CHRITSIAN HATRED ANY MORE WORTHY.

What does that change? I've stated clearly for you on numerous times that I don't go on to atheist websites or Christian websites, so why would I go on Islamic ones?
TO SHOW FAIRNESS AND BALANCE


I do not take every sentence of the Bible literally like you. I find your over literal interpetation unintelligent and lacking and spiritual enlightenment. Some are symboliic parables, whether they are all meant to be taken so literal is not even the most important aspect. You wasted years studying a book but fail totally to appreciate the meanings and the wisdom we can take from the Bible. A child could appreciate and learn more, its really desperately sad how youve wasted your education.

still if youre happy to spend every day of your short life preaching hatred agsainst the worlds greatest pacifist, the most beloved and insspiring man in history, thats your choice. You just ignore all the warmongers, thehitlers and stalins and all the worlds enromous problems to destroy the one man who gave everyone hope. Thats your choice as I say and words cannot even describe how pitiful a choice it truly is.I think Ill join the people on the other side of the street, the ones who appreciate his teachings and divine lessons on life love, and everlasting truth. we will pray for you as you asked.

[BBfanUSA]

Uh guys this isn't about religion :P This is about financial systems.

[the truth]

Uh guys this isn't about religion :P This is about financial systems.

its also about the rich and the poor and the moral issues surrounding tax and benefits

[Jesus.]

Truth - I have no desire to hijack another thread. BBFanUSA is correct, our discussion isn't about the poor, as your CAPS LOCK insanity proves. Please either pm me, or better still, post me a wall message so anyone who wants to can read it, and I'll be happy to go through it with you step by step, so you don't feel I've avoided any of your little questions.

You could start a thread if you wanted, and I'd also be happy to do it there.

[the truth]

Truth - I have no desire to hijack another thread. BBFanUSA is correct, our discussion isn't about the poor, as your CAPS LOCK insanity proves. Please either pm me, or better still, post me a wall message so anyone who wants to can read it, and I'll be happy to go through it with you step by step, so you don't feel I've avoided any of your little questions.

You could start a thread if you wanted, and I'd also be happy to do it there.

There is zero point when youre being so abusive. Take your anti religious hatred to islamic sites if you truly believe in it

[Jesus.]

There is zero point when youre being so abusive. Take your anti religious hatred to Islamic sites if you truly believe in it

Why is it, that the followers of Yeshua are often the least Yeshua-like?

I'm not the one who went on a caps lock tirade. I think anyone reading our exchange in this thread wouldn't pick me out as the one who has been abusive.

I'll make the first move. I'll post a question on your wall and we can go from there. 1 question each, and we take it in turns to ask one? And if the other person isn't happy, then we get the chance to cross examine each other till we get the answer that satisfies the questioner?

I think that's fair.

[the truth]

Why is it, that the followers of Yeshua are often the least Yeshua-like?

I'm not the one who went on a caps lock tirade. I think anyone reading our exchange in this thread wouldn't pick me out as the one who has been abusive.

I'll make the first move. I'll post a question on your wall and we can go from there. 1 question each, and we take it in turns to ask one? And if the other person isn't happy, then we get the chance to cross examine each other till we get the answer that satisfies the questioner?

I think that's fair.

What a profoundly shallow response
were discussing the rich and the poor, the teachings of Christ, the moral issues of our time , 1000s of years of history and all you can point to is caps lock. if you used the intelligence you claimed to have, the capitals in that reply were merely used to make it easier to seperate your comments with my replies. I was in fact doing you a favour and thats how you react to a a favour? Incidentally what religion or ethicity were you born into? i assume you werent born the anti-christ

[Jesus.]

What a profoundly shallow response
were discussing the rich and the poor, the teachings of Christ, the moral issues of our time , 1000s of years of history and all you can point to is caps lock. if you used the intelligence you claimed to have, the capitals in that reply were merely used to make it easier to seperate your comments with my replies. I was in fact doing you a favour and thats how you react to a a favour? Incidentally what religion or ethicity were you born into? i assume you werent born the anti-christ

I've posted a message on your wall. I'll be happy to engage you in conversation there.