What Sexuality Do You Identify As?

[Munchkins]

Just wondering..
At the moment i currently identify as Asexual, though this could definitely change! i experience attraction as in i find males very attractive etc, but no sexual attraction at all, the thought of sex and an actual relationship i find very offputting and just repulsive :p, so i just cant see myself in a long term relationship or anything, but i realise this could change as i get older, and i am a bit cautious to identiy myself.
My feelings are very messed up though and confusing argh
*polls up in a second*

[reece(:]

I think it's called Pansexual... I dunno, I just class love as love and I'm attracted to someone as a person if you get what I mean. I'm yet to find myself though as I've never had a proper relationship. :shrug:

[Apple202]

oh yes deffo asexual

[Amy Jade]

Hetro.

I've never had sexual feelings for girls.

[Jenn-CityIVLyfe]

Can I change my vote to Jennsexual?

[Jake.]

I think it's called Pansexual... I dunno, I just class love as love and I'm attracted to someone as a person if you get what I mean. I'm yet to find myself though as I've never had a proper relationship. :shrug:

Yeah that is a pansexual :)

[Jake.]

Can I change my vote to Jennsexual?

No, although Triciasexual is available

[Saph]

Is hetero, straight? because I chose that one

[reece(:]

Can I change my vote to Jennsexual?
:amazed:
Yeah that is a pansexual :)
Ah thanks, I've never exactly been that bothered to go and google what is this. :joker:

[Jenn-CityIVLyfe]

No, although Triciasexual is available

Deal

[Raph]

I voted asexual and here's why - I'm attracted to both boys and girls. Perhaps boys even more than girls. But i've always not been that keen on sex. Sure, i'm attracted to people but the thought of sex really doesn't appeal to me too much. Which is why I could never have a one-night stand for example. I can have sex with someone I love but that's because I love them and want to do it for them, and not necessarily that I really want to have sex with them, if that makes sense.

So yeah I classify myself as asexual if I had to pick an option!

[reece(:]

No, although Triciasexual is available

Thought that said Trisexual at first!

[Jake.]

Thought that said Trisexual at first!

:joker:

[Jack_]

Erm, bisexual is the easiest label but it's a lot more complex than that.

I find girls more sexually attractive than guys, but I find a lot of guys hot (especially certain male celebrities for some reason, I only get obsessions with them as opposed to female ones). I'd definitely try sex with a guy (I see it as don't knock it until you've tried it) but when the time is right. And then I've always just thought if you love someone you love someone, doesn't matter what gender they are. I don't know, I've reached a stage in my head now where I just prefer to not bother with labels (but will say bi if someone asks; that's only online - which makes it even more complicated) and just think I'm open about the whole thing. Some people are hot, some people I want to ****, simple.

I think it's called Pansexual... I dunno, I just class love as love and I'm attracted to someone as a person if you get what I mean. I'm yet to find myself though as I've never had a proper relationship. :shrug:

Yeah that's pansexual. I went through a stage as identifying myself as that.

[Saph]

I'm not sexually attracted to other girls, but I can appreciate the beauty in them

[Jarrod]

I'm going to be totally honest. At this point in time - I'm not happy to shout it from the rooftops. I've told few people about myself... I'll come back and answer this soon.

[Ninastar]

Bi because I'd do both guys and girls. I prefer how girls look though and I prefer their personalities.

[Jake.]

Is there an option for being sexually attracted to farmyard animals? Or do I just go with other/unidentified?

[Raph]

Jarrod :hug:

[Amy Jade]

Is there an option for being sexually attracted to farmyard animals? Or do I just go with other/unidentified?
Triciasexual.

[Jarrod]

Jarrod :hug:
:)


sent you a skype message 20 minutes ago bitch.

[reece(:]

Triciasexual.
:laugh2:

[Jake.]

Na, was just kidding :laugh:

[Jake.]

Triciasexual.

How dare you!

[Jack_]

Is there an option for being sexually attracted to farmyard animals? Or do I just go with other/unidentified?

You dirty ****ing zoophile

[Holly Christmas]

Is there an option for being sexually attracted to farmyard animals? Or do I just go with other/unidentified?

:joker: Vodkasexual.

[Amy Jade]

http://www.heatworld.com/images/114723_615x2000_STD/2013/1/Images/Gallery/cbb1.jpg

[Jake.]

You dirty ****ing zoophile

Bingo!

[Raph]

Tricia Penrose :worship:

[Jake.]

:love:

[Jake.]

Really wish I hadn't have put that post now :laugh: -vile-

[Munchkins]

smh at this thread being killed

[reece(:]

Better than Necrophilia I suppose.

[Jack_]

Bingo!

I've just Googled it actually and this thread on some other forum came up

http://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic88172.html

Puts mine and other people's struggles with sexuality on here into perspective :o

[LemonJam]

I'm not fussy with my genitals.

[Jake.]

I've just Googled it actually and this thread on some other forum came up

http://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic88172.html

Puts mine and other people's struggles with sexuality on here into perspective :o

Jesus christ, that first post!

[reece(:]

Jesus christ [2]

[Munchkins]

Jesus Christ [3]

[Jesus.]

Leave me the ***** out of it. I ain't getting licked out by no dog n sh*t.

[LemonJam]

There's actually a man where I live who got arrested for ****ing a horse... allegedly in the nose.

~island life~

[Amy Jade]

How can a person be sexually interested in an animal??

[Jack_]

Sexuality really does fascinate me. I long for the day when as a society we are open and fluid about it. We're getting there but there's a lot of work to be done.

[Jesus.]

http://www.charlieandpeggy.com/Palm_Cockatoo1.jpg

[Jake.]

Sexuality really does fascinate me. I long for the day when as a society we are open and fluid about it. We're getting there but there's a lot of work to be done.

:worship:

Although it's fantastic that the majority on here are such an accepting group of people

[Jack_]

Yeah, we're quite a diverse bunch on here, and very open-minded (on the whole). I like that, people can be themselves more.

[Jack_]

That thread has given me an idea for another thread :suspect:

[reece(:]

That thread has given me an idea for another thread :suspect:
gogogo

[Jake.]

That thread has given me an idea for another thread :suspect:

The thread about having sex with dogs? I'm scared...

[Roy Mars III]

I've just Googled it actually and this thread on some other forum came up

http://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic88172.html

Puts mine and other people's struggles with sexuality on here into perspective :o

this is the first time i have ever heard that someone is sexually attracted to dolphins

[bbfan1991]

Straight.

[Maia]

Aromantic asexual tbh

[Novo]

Aerodynamic Heterosexual tbh

[The Human Santapede]

Apparently I'm the only gay on TiBB...

[Black Dagger]

Apparently I'm the only gay on TiBB...

Oh ello xoxo

[Maia]

Aerodynamic Heterosexual tbh

:joker::joker:

[Brother Leon]

Horny Hetro.

[Tom4784]

Not completely straight but not gay enough to be considered truly bisexual either. My attraction towards men tends to be fleeting while any feelings I have for women tend to be stronger and a whole lot more consistent.

[Niall]

I'm only attracted to men sexually really. When I look at a woman I just.. I feel no attraction at all. Like I can appreciate the beauty of a woman, but there's nothing beyond that. I couldn't feel a physical attraction even if I tried to, it just does absolutely nothing for me.

But with men it's the complete opposite. When I see a hot guy my thoughts enter the gutter so fast usually and I'm just going to stop talking about that because I think you guys get the picture; I'm pretty much exclusively gay.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I've never been in a relationship but right now I identify myself as straight as I'm sexually attracted to women but don't feel a thing towards men

[Marcus.]

Heterosexual

i like ladies

[Josy]

Heterosexual

[Ross]

110% Homosexual ;)

[thesheriff443]

hetrosexual, but i like the look of some lesbian's:joker:

[Jarrod]

Came out today... voted.

[LemonJam]

Good for you Jarrod. :bigsmile:

[Lee.]

There's actually a man where I live who got arrested for ****ing a horse... allegedly in the nose.

~island life~

:conf: he gave it to the horse in the nose?? Surely horses have easier accesible orrifices than their nostrils?

[Lee.]

Came out today... voted.

Good on you Jarrod :)

[Jesus.]

Stop being frigid Lee. Nose sex is the best sex, and everyone knows that.

[LemonJam]

:conf: he gave it to the horse in the nose?? Surely horses have easier accesible orrifices than their nostrils?

allegedly :P maybe he thought it'd kick him if he took it from behi-... I can't continue this discussion I'm sorry.

[Lee.]

allegedly :P maybe he thought it'd kick him if he took it from behi-... I can't continue this discussion I'm sorry.
:joker:

[Ammi]

Came out today... voted.



....:love:...well done Jarrod..I hope you feel ok about it...

[Candy Annie Cane]

Came out today... voted.

Good for you Jarrod :hugesmile:

Hope it went well!

[Jarrod]

....:love:...well done Jarrod..I hope you feel ok about it...

Thanks Ammi and Lee :) I'm totally fine about it. Never felt more open haha.

[Jarrod]

Good for you Jarrod :hugesmile:

Hope it went well!

Thank you :D It did.

[Black Dagger]

Aww, congrats Jarrod <3.

[Jarrod]

Aww, congrats Jarrod <3.

:amazed: Thank You :love:

[DigitalSid]

Straight.

[Ammi]

Thanks Ammi and Lee :) I'm totally fine about it. Never felt more open haha.

...aww, the relief of being open must be so liberating Jarrod...it's so sad that you have to go through that though, heterosexuals never do...I'm glad that you're feeling great right now..you're finally being you and that's how it should be.....:hug:

[Jack_]

Well done Jarrod! Just embrace it mate :amazed:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I still don't get the difference between Pansexual and Bisexual :suspect:

[Jarrod]

...aww, the relief of being open must be so liberating Jarrod...it's so sad that you have to go through that though, heterosexuals never do...I'm glad that you're feeling great right now..you're finally being you and that's how it should be.....:hug:

:hug: Thank you Ammi! Means a lot.

Well done Jarrod! Just embrace it mate :amazed:
:amazed: Thanks Jack!

[LemonJam]

I still don't get the difference between Pansexual and Bisexual :suspect:

[2].

[Conzors]

Well done Jarrod - after you do it you realize its not such a big deal as you make it out to be before you do it.

Im homosexual sexually. If i would choose a gender to have sex with it would be a male, however saying that I do believe that anyone could fall in love in anyone.

Most people fall in love with personality, i could really really love a woman, due to their personality - having sex with them would be hard because im not sexually attracted to them, so therefore i would class myself as gay.

[Jarrod]

Well done Jarrod - after you do it you realize its not such a big deal as you make it out to be before you do it.

Im homosexual sexually. If i would choose a gender to have sex with it would be a male, however saying that I do believe that anyone could fall in love in anyone.

Most people fall in love with personality, i could really really love a woman, due to their personality - having sex with them would be hard because im not sexually attracted to them, so therefore i would class myself as gay.

That's basically how I feel too.

[Jesus.]

I still don't get the difference between Pansexual and Bisexual :suspect:

Isn't pansexual that you're open to multiple species? Read that other forum thread that Jack posted earlier in this thread. They talk about it there. A lot.

[Jamie.]

Bisexual, but not "open" about it, I've only told a few people

[ChristmasNeeve]

Isn't pansexual that you're open to multiple species? Read that other forum thread that Jack posted earlier in this thread. They talk about it there. A lot.

Species? like as in animals and s**t? wut?

[Cherry Christmas]

:conf: he gave it to the horse in the nose?? Surely horses have easier accesible orrifices than their nostrils?

would you stand behind a horse.:joker: oops there you are in the next field.

[Kazanne]

hetro,I just love men.
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/katfilan/Gifs/tumblr_lpryd27J331qkfdipo1_500.gif

[Jamie.]

hetro,I just love men.
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/katfilan/Gifs/tumblr_lpryd27J331qkfdipo1_500.gif

Yep... we know...
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqbcJVkpwNJEgEBL74bvIUbIxffjJpm CYCy6xtbEIjJsmzYQ6v_A

[Me. I Am Salman]

I think pansexuals have person-orientated attractions and it can be whatever gender

[Good King Glennceslas]

I'd have to say Bisexual even though I sway more to men.

And Jarrod :amazed:

Congratulations :love:

[Jamie.]

"Pansexuality, or omnisexuality,[1] is sexual attraction, sexual desire, romantic love, or emotional attraction toward persons of all gender identities and biological sexes.[2][3] Self-identified pansexuals may consider pansexuality a sexual orientation,[3] and refer to themselves as gender-blind, asserting that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.[4] The Oxford English Dictionary defines pansexuality as, "not limited or inhibited in sexual choice with regard to gender or activity".[5]"

[ChristmasNeeve]

I think pansexuals have person-orientated attractions and it can be whatever gender

That's pretty much the same as Bi though, they like both sexes..

[Jarrod]

I'd have to say Bisexual even though I sway more to men.

And Jarrod :amazed:

Congratulations :love:

Thanks Glenn! :amazed:

[Maia]

Jarrod :love:

[Me. I Am Salman]

That's pretty much the same as Bi though, they like both sexes..

Bisexuals are sexually attracted to both genders, pansexuals aren't sexually attracted to any gender and can fall in love with anyone based on their personality

I think

[Marcus.]

well done jarad

[ChristmasNeeve]

Bisexuals are sexually attracted to both genders, pansexuals aren't sexually attracted to any gender and can fall in love with anyone based on their personality

I think

If they're not sexually attracted to either gender wouldn't that make them asexual?

[Jarrod]

Guys seriously thank you so much :love: You're all amazing.

[Good King Glennceslas]

OMG I just looked at the poll results and I didn't know LemonJam was bi :amazed:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Wait. I think

Bisexuals - sexually attracted to men and women
Pansexuals - sexually attracted to whoever, not based on their gender, so this includes transgender people
Asexual - not being sexually attracted to anybody

[Apple202]

omg well done jarrod :amazed:

[Kazanne]

Yep... we know...
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqbcJVkpwNJEgEBL74bvIUbIxffjJpm CYCy6xtbEIjJsmzYQ6v_A

:joker:You say that as though it's wrong:xyxwave::hugesmile:

[thesheriff443]

:joker:You say that as though it's wrong:xyxwave::hugesmile:

i see no wrong

[Me. I Am Salman]

Oh and congratulations Jarrod :)

[Jesus.]

Species? like as in animals and s**t? wut?

http://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic88172.html

[Jarrod]

omg well done jarrod :amazed:

Oh and congratulations Jarrod :)

Thanks you two :)

[thesheriff443]

Oh and congratulations Jarrod :)

this^

[Jarrod]

Thank You Sire.

[Jesus.]

Was it to friends and family, or did friends already know?

Glad it went well for you. As a heterosexual male, with absolutely no hang ups, I sometimes forget how difficult it must be to have that conversation. I don't care what sexuality people are, so I often forget that things aren't always that simple the other way round.

[Jarrod]

Was it to friends and family, or did friends already know?

Glad it went well for you. As a heterosexual male, with absolutely no hang ups, I sometimes forget how difficult it must be to have that conversation. I don't care what sexuality people are, so I often forget that things aren't always that simple the other way round.

Assuming this is aimed at me... It was to my mum and then close friends. It was extremely awkward and I ended up telling her through Whatsapp. But...

[Jesus.]

Sorry - yeah, it was aimed at you. I should have made that clear. Well at least you got it out there.

[Jarrod]

Yep and i've never been happier.

[Annie]

Hetro. Love boys!!

[Sam:)]

Straight, dont find males sexually attractive at all.

Btw congratulations Jarrod! I'd say it took some strength to come out to your mam:)

[Jarrod]

Straight, dont find males sexually attractive at all.

Btw congratulations Jarrod! I'd say it took some strength to come out to your mam:)

Thank you Sam! :)

[Jake.]

Aw congratulations Jarrod! I have the up-most respect for people like yourself that have the courage to do it, good on you! :hug:

[lostalex]

6 people are asexual. wtf, that's a lot more than i expected. And i don't know if asexuality is even a sexuality, is it? that's like saying that atheism is a religion.

[lostalex]

I think it's called Pansexual... I dunno, I just class love as love and I'm attracted to someone as a person if you get what I mean. I'm yet to find myself though as I've never had a proper relationship. :shrug:

How is that different than bisexual?

[Cherry Christmas]

:joker:You say that as though it's wrong:xyxwave::hugesmile:

As said earlier on the thread, we are an extremely open minded bunch on the whole..pats on the back all round....as long as we don't hear that women over 30 like sex...then it's put it away, tmi etc etc..:joker:


Well done Jarrod, now just get on and enjoy your life.

[SharkAttack]

And congrats again, Jarrod, things will be a little easier with not having to withhold secrets. :)

[Jarrod]

Aw congratulations Jarrod! I have the up-most respect for people like yourself that have the courage to do it, good on you! :hug:

Thank you! Everyone it means a lot :) really. You're all amazing! :love:

[Marc]

I'm a lesbian

[Ninastar]

I'm a lesbian

i think u & i should get it on

[Cherry Christmas]

I'm a lesbian

You can get back in the closet the world is not ready for you yet.

[Jessica.]

Heterosexual.

[reece(:]

How is that different than bisexual?
Because I don't think of the gender really, Bi sexual is set in stone - both ways. I don't know yet.

[Merry Mockmas]

I'm Heterosexual.

[GypsyGoth]

Bisexuals are attracted to females & males.

Pansexuals are attracted to females & males plus people who are transgendered. So for example a bisexual might not find a pre op female to male desirable, but a pansexual would.

[King Gizzard]

it's like a hipster way of saying bisexual

[GypsyGoth]

Those damn hipsters http://i.imgur.com/Xk4kmuv.gif

[Ninastar]

it's like a hipster way of saying bisexual

Pretty much

[King Gizzard]

judging by google i'm not the first person to say it

[reece(:]

None of you are in my shoes, so I can't see how you can say otherwise...

[Ninastar]

But I could fancy anyone, I don't understand how it's anything other than bi.

[Jack_]

Criticising somebody for the way they feel about their sexuality, preferences, how they feel about themselves and any such labels they wish to give to it as means of an identity seems just as bad as any other form of sexuality based prejudice to me, and for those who may be struggling to understand and discover themselves I find it quite worrying and disgusting that people can throw around insensitive accusations and 'evaluations' of something they have absolutely no understanding of. I don't think it'd be acceptable if it were directed at asexuals, so why is this any different?

[Urban Cragou]

But I could fancy anyone, I don't understand how it's anything other than bi.

As Claudia alluded, although bisexuals do fancy both males and females (to differing degrees, of course), pansexuals are pretty much the same, exact that the meaning is a bit more literal and they genuinely see people as people, regardless of gender.

It's like being a transexual. Bisexual people generally wouldn't do that, but pansexual people would.

It's practically the same thing, just a little more extreme.

[Ninastar]

Meh I just see it as another way to be 'different'

[reece(:]

Why would I want to be "different", all I've ever wanted to do is try and fit in somewhere, how I feel is natural unfortunately. So much for no stereotyping.

[Brother Leon]

This whole time, I Always thought Pansexual meant you like both genders but not in a sexual way. Shows how much I know.

[Munchkins]

I don't understand the term but id genuinely like to know, but a transgender person is still a male or female?? do you mean that pansexual people can fancy genderqueer people and adrogynous people, who dont exactly want to be either gender

[Novo]

Simpsexual

[Ninastar]

As Claudia alluded, although bisexuals do fancy both males and females (to differing degrees, of course), pansexuals are pretty much the same, exact that the meaning is a bit more literal and they genuinely see people as people, regardless of gender.

It's like being a transexual. Bisexual people generally wouldn't do that, but pansexual people would.

It's practically the same thing, just a little more extreme.

I genuinely wouldn't care though and I'd still classify myself as bi... Fair enough if you don't think you're bi, I just really don't see much difference

[Jack_]

Meh I just see it as another way to be 'different'

And I see bisexuality as 'greedy', homosexuality as 'unnatural' and asexuality as 'impossible'.

Would these type of comments be allowed? No, I don't think they would...so why do you think yours are? Don't comment on things you have absolutely no understanding of, it's ignorant and in such an insulting manner, rude. Who are you to comment on other people's feelings and preferences and the way they feel about love, sex and attraction? Unless you were lucky, then I'd imagine you'd have some understanding about how it must feel to question yourself, discover yourself and learn to accept yourself as bisexual. Well it's no different for someone who wishes to identify themselves as pansexual. Stop being so insensitive.

There's nothing wrong with enquiring or taking an interest in something. I find sexuality fascinating, but I don't go around with such a narrow-minded, predetermined view and then go and make insulting remarks on things I don't understand. I keep an open-mind. These are people's feelings, have a bit of respect.

[Munchkins]

Plus Heterosexuals/homosexuals could still fancy a transgender person.. for instance a hetero person with a preference to girls could still fancy a trans post op girl idk

Anyway Pansexuality
"pansexual people may be sexually attracted to individuals who identify as male or female; however, they may also be attracted to those who identify as intersex, third-gender, androgynous"

[Niall]

I've always understood pansexuality to be a thing where the individual is more about the emotional connection to the other person rather than the physical (although they enjoy the physical side too)? I remember looking it up on Wikipedia a while ago and it said pansexuals are 'gender blind' in a sense. I suppose it's difficult to separate from bisexuality at first because of the similarities but they really are two different things.

[Urban Cragou]

I don't understand the term but id genuinely like to know, but a transgender person is still a male or female?? do you mean that pansexual people can fancy genderqueer people and adrogynous people, who dont exactly want to be either gender

It's very difficult defining the term but that's basically it. I suppose the clue would be derived from the other term/synonym, omnisexuals. Male, female, androgynous, intersex, male to female transsexual/transgendered, female to male transsexual/transgendered, hermaphrodite, etc.

They're basically gender-blind in that sense. Bisexual people would probably draw a line somewhere.

[Firewire]

i thought pansexuality was when you were sexually attracted to pans :shrug:

[Niall]

And I see bisexuality as 'greedy', homosexuality as 'unnatural' and asexuality as 'impossible'.

Would these type of comments be allowed? No, I don't think they would...so why do you think yours are? Don't comment on things you have absolutely no understanding of, it's ignorant and in such an insulting manner, rude. Who are you to comment on other people's feelings and preferences and the way they feel about love, sex and attraction? Unless you were lucky, then I'd imagine you'd have some understanding about how it must feel to question yourself, discover yourself and learn to accept yourself as bisexual. Well it's no different for someone who wishes to identify themselves as pansexual. Stop being so insensitive.

There's nothing wrong with enquiring or taking an interest in something. I find sexuality fascinating, but I don't go around with such a narrow-minded, predetermined view and then go and make insulting remarks on things I don't understand. I keep an open-mind. These are people's feelings, have a bit of respect.

Exactly how I feel on the matter too. :worship:

[King Gizzard]

And I see bisexuality as 'greedy', homosexuality as 'unnatural' and asexuality as 'impossible'.

Would these type of comments be allowed? No, I don't think they would...so why do you think yours are? Don't comment on things you have absolutely no understanding of, it's ignorant and in such an insulting manner, rude. Who are you to comment on other people's feelings and preferences and the way they feel about love, sex and attraction? Unless you were lucky, then I'd imagine you'd have some understanding about how it must feel to question yourself, discover yourself and learn to accept yourself as bisexual. Well it's no different for someone who wishes to identify themselves as pansexual. Stop being so insensitive.

There's nothing wrong with enquiring or taking an interest in something. I find sexuality fascinating, but I don't go around with such a narrow-minded, predetermined view and then go and make insulting remarks on things I don't understand. I keep an open-mind. These are people's feelings, have a bit of respect.

Bit of an overreaction, she's bisexual herself, really don't think Caitlin is one for sexuality discriminating

[Ninastar]

It's very difficult defining the term but that's basically it. I suppose the clue would be derived from the other term/synonym, omnisexuals. Male, female, androgynous, intersex, male to female transsexual/transgendered, female to male transsexual/transgendered, hermaphrodite, etc.

They're basically gender-blind in that sense. Bisexual people would probably draw a line somewhere.

But I'm bisexual and I wouldn't? I just don't see a difference. If that makes small minded/selfish/judgemental (lol) then so be it

[Munchkins]

Asexual Pride Guys :love:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Asexual_flag.svg/200px-Asexual_flag.svg.png

[Urban Cragou]

I genuinely wouldn't care though and I'd still classify myself as bi... Fair enough if you don't think you're bi, I just really don't see much difference
Well, the easiest way to look at it is to ask yourself whether your sexual preferences extend to relatively androgynous people, so would you have sex with a transexual, for instance? If the answer is no, you're most likely only bisexual. If your answer is closer to yes, you're probably a pansexual.
I've always understood pansexuality to be a thing where the individual is more about the emotional connection to the other person rather than the physical (although they enjoy the physical side too)? I remember looking it up on Wikipedia a while ago and it said pansexuals are 'gender blind' in a sense. I suppose it's difficult to separate from bisexuality at first because of the similarities but they really are two different things.

Yeah, they're known to be attracted to the soul rather than the body (as one person put it).

[Munchkins]

Well, the easiest way to look at it is to ask yourself whether your sexual preferences extend to relatively androgynous people, so would you have sex with a transexual, for instance? If the answer is no, you're most likely only bisexual. If your answer is closer to yes, you're probably a pansexual.


Yeah, they're known to be attracted to the soul rather than the body (as one person put it).

Transexual people are still genders though most desire to be male or female, which would just be bi?.. i understand Andryogonous though, as they dont want to be either gender, and are inbetween
so confused

[Jake.]

I've always understood pansexuality to be a thing where the individual is more about the emotional connection to the other person rather than the physical (although they enjoy the physical side too)? I remember looking it up on Wikipedia a while ago and it said pansexuals are 'gender blind' in a sense. I suppose it's difficult to separate from bisexuality at first because of the similarities but they really are two different things.

That's what I've personally understood it as as well

[Niall]

But I'm bisexual and I wouldn't? I just don't see a difference. If that makes small minded/selfish/judgemental (lol) then so be it

Well it is judgemental. You're basically saying that their feelings are invalid? :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

What does trisexual mean?

[Urban Cragou]

Transexual people are still genders though.. i understand Andryogonous though, as they dont want to be either gender, and are inbetween
so confused

Exactly. Bisexual people only identify themselves as having sexual feelings for the two prominent genders, i.e. male and female. Pansexuals would be attracted to not only the two prominent genders but everyone else in between.

I understand that using the term "in between" may cause controversy, but if it isn't 100% one gender or the other, that's the category under which they'd fit.

[Brother Leon]

Simpsexual
:joker:

Post of the thread.
What does trisexual mean?
Willing to engage in Vaginal,Anal and Mouth ****ing

[Munchkins]

Asexual
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Asexual_flag.svg/200px-Asexual_flag.svg.png

Heterosexual
http://www.asexualnews.com/images/150px-heterosexual-flag-idea.svg.png

Bisexual
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Bi_flag.svg/250px-Bi_flag.svg.png

Pansexual
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lus5i45moD1qmpjy7.gif

Homosexual
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Gay_flag.svg/128px-Gay_flag.svg.png


The flags are so pretty :lovedup:

[Ninastar]

I'm not defending myself for my views.... People can't say anything these days without getting offended

[Amy Jade]

I like the hetro flag, because it has a heart in it.

[Jack_]

Bit of an overreaction, she's bisexual herself, really don't think Caitlin is one for sexuality discriminating

Yeah and there's black people that are racist, I don't see your point.

Do you think it's acceptable to call somebody's sexual orientation a way of being 'different' and a 'hipster' label? Oh yeah guyz I'm gunna call maself pansexual cause it's so cool! I'm gonna get so much attention because it's so different and edgy! Never mind how I actually feel...I'm just putting it on! Hahahaahahahaaha!!!

No, these are people's feelings and nobody has the right to question them in such a derogatory manner. Nobody understands anyone's sexuality but their own, and to pass insulting judgements on other people's sexual preferences, identity and feelings about love and attraction, is ignorance personified. I'd expect someone who has, I'd imagine, had struggles with sexuality themselves, to empathise with somebody else in a similar situation, but alas it's not always as simple as that is it. Double standards alert.

[Amy Jade]

Willing to engage in Vaginal,Anal and Mouth ****s.
So like they're kinda in to anything and everything?

[Urban Cragou]

What does trisexual mean?

Those people are considerably more extreme than pansexuals and will "try anything" - so alive or dead, inanimate or whatever.

[Drew.]

Those people are considerably more extreme than pansexuals and will "try anything" - so alive or dead, inanimate or whatever.

oh my

[Jake.]

Willing to engage in Vaginal,Anal and Mouth ****ing

So a good wife?

[Urban Cragou]

oh my
It's pretty much paraphilia. So those supposed sexual abnormalities, as most people would describe it, are pretty much nothing for trisexual people.
So a good wife?
:joker:

[Jack_]

I'm not defending myself for my views.... People can't say anything these days without getting offended

Yeah, because you can't. I wouldn't wander into a discussion about wars in the Middle East because I have little understanding of the issue. And in this instance as I alluded to, nobody understands anyone's sexuality but their own, and so to make insulting and insensitive comments about somebody's feelings (feelings they may be struggling with...hello, does that not ring any personal bells?) just makes you look ignorant.

It's not nice when people say bisexuals are greedy or closeted gays, can't make their mind up etc, it can be hurtful to some people. Just think. Doesn't take a lot...

[Amy Jade]

Those people are considerably more extreme than pansexuals and will "try anything" - so alive or dead, inanimate or whatever.
Sex with a dead body?

wtf!

[Brother Leon]

So like they're kinda in to anything and everything?
Bless you :p

I was ****ing about ;)

So a good wife?

:joker: omdz

[GypsyGoth]

I think of bisexual as a not having a preference when it comes to gender.

The first time I ever heard of pansexual was on this forum. And it seems to me that it hints that bisexuals are in some way discriminating. Pansexuals seem to say that they are the ones who are truly not caring when it comes to gender and that the bisexuals have prejudices.

[reece(:]

The first time I ever heard of pansexual was on this forum. And it seems to me that it hints that bisexuals are in some way discriminating. Pansexuals seem to say that they are the ones who are truly not caring when it comes to gender and that the bisexuals have prejudices.

I've no idea where this assumption of a pansexual vs bisexual war has arisen from as it's nothing like that, "pansexuals" have a right to defend there feelings - that no one else possesses, but themselves. No one's hinting any discrimination from all bisexuals (again stereotyping).

[Urban Cragou]

Sex with a dead body?

wtf!

It's paraphilia though, so it sort of leads back to the whole psychological argument.

[GypsyGoth]

I've no idea where this assumption of a pansexual vs bisexual war has arisen from as it's nothing like that, "pansexuals" have a right to defend there feelings - that no one else possesses, but themselves. No one's hinting any discrimination from all bisexuals (again stereotyping).

Pansexuals are not under attack, and never have been, as far as I'm aware there never has been a struggle by pansexuals in society. And no one is saying that people who identify themselves as pansexuals shouldn't feel a certain way or should.

[LemonJam]

-throws eggs at the pansexual's houses-

[Patrick]

I'm Straight, but I find some guys hot - and have no problem saying that. Weird thing is, although I find them hot - the thought of even touching a lad would make me vomit.

[lostalex]

I know a lot of people who label themselves as pansexual/bisexual/genderqueer/ asexual that actually are just gay. they just don't want to be called gay because of all the negative stereotypes about gay people, so they think it sounds better to call themselves anything other than gay.

I'm not saying all people who use those other terms are doing that, but a lot of them are. Almost every gay person i've ever met went through a phase of telling people they were bisexual before they came out as gay.

Personally I don't care what people want to label themselves as. Whatever makes you happy.

[Jack_]

I know a lot of people who label themselves as pansexual/bisexual/genderqueer/ asexual that actually are just gay. they just don't want to be called gay because of all the negative stereotypes about gay people, so they think it sounds better to call themselves anything other than gay.

I'm not saying all people who use those other terms are doing that, but a lot of them are. Almost every gay person i've ever met went through a phase of telling people they were bisexual before they came out as gay.

There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

[lostalex]

There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

Actually they are just as representative as anyone else. Obviously everyone is an individual, so no one can represent any large group of people more than anyone else.

[Merry Mockmas]

There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

Tbf I think Lostalex made a fair and reasonable post, as he does have a point that some people do lie about their sexuality, but obviously not all of them.

[Jack_]

Personally I don't care what people want to label themselves as. Whatever makes you happy.

Just noticed this. Kudos to you for respecting and being sensitive towards other people's feelings, that's all people need to be :love:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

[Urban Cragou]

Actually they are just as representative as anyone else.

You make some good points and I would generally agree with the gist of your post, just that I'm slightly with Jack_ on this one. Personal experience isn't really a valid barometer on which to form nationally representative statements, but you're definitely right in saying that some people do substitute their homosexuality for other terms.

[reece(:]

Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality
Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

[Merry Mockmas]

Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

Agreed, it's only this thread that's helped me out to distinguish Bisexuality and Pansexuality.

[Urban Cragou]

Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

Don't think anyone was being deliberately disrespectful or anything, the posts in this thread alone show how difficult a term it is to define though and one that not everyone will agree on

[Jack_]

Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing confusion, enquiring, taking an interest in an issue, it's healthy. As I've already said, I find sexuality as a whole fascinating and in particular asexuality. But that doesn't give people the right to pass insulting judgements about other people's preferences and identity choices, let's not forget these are deep-rooted personal feelings people are experiencing, it's hard enough as it is already without people with no understanding whatsoever making insulting remarks. It's just ignorant.

[reece(:]

I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.
Yes but stereotyping as a hipster or wanting to be different can be taken the wrong way as well as all the jokey posts, I've for ages struggled with my feelings (still do) and it just doesn't help. And I'm not looking for sympathy, just a little respect.

[Jack_]

Don't think anyone was being deliberately disrespectful or anything, the posts in this thread alone show how difficult a term it is to define though and one that not everyone will agree on

Accusing somebody's sexuality of being a way of being 'different' or 'hipster' as if it's some kind of attention seeking joke is really belittling, insensitive and disrespectful.

[Ninastar]

I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.

Thank you.

[Urban Cragou]

Yes but stereotyping as a hipster or wanting to be different can be taken the wrong way as well as all the jokey posts, I've for ages struggled with my feelings (still do) and it just doesn't help. And I'm not looking for sympathy, just a little respect.
Wasn't it someone else who made that 'hipster' comment?

[Jack_]

I couldn't give a **** how anybody tries to spin it, 'meh I just see it as a way of being 'different' is so patronising and disregards any feelings the person on the receiving end of it may have.

[reece(:]

Wasn't it someone else who made that 'hipster' comment?
Does it really matter who it was though?

[GypsyGoth]

I couldn't give a **** how anybody tries to spin it, 'meh I just see it as a way of being 'different' is so patronising and disregards any feelings the person on the receiving end of it may have.

For someone who is meant to like every gender on the planet, you don't seem all that tolerant or understanding.

[Black Dagger]

Y'all like dick or vagina or both or you don't care and would rather have a cheese sandwich.

[GypsyGoth]

Does it really matter who it was though?

Yep, it does matter.

[lostalex]

Is there a way to see how people voted in the poll?

[Black Dagger]

Is there a way to see how people voted in the poll?

Yes, just click on any of the numbers.

[Urban Cragou]

Does it really matter who it was though?

If you're gonna criticise Caitlin's attitude (which is fine), you may as well address the person who actually made that 'hipster' comment. I agree that it was uncalled for and insensitive, but you shouldn't take things so seriously.

[reece(:]

Yep, it does matter.
How so... the only people I could see it mattering to is the one's that could take offense.

[Urban Cragou]

Is there a way to see how people voted in the poll?

59 so far.

[lostalex]

Yes, just click on any of the numbers.

ahh, muchos gracias.

[reece(:]

If you're gonna criticise Caitlin's attitude (which is fine), you may as well address the person who actually made that 'hipster' comment. I agree that it was uncalled for and insensitive, but you shouldn't take things so seriously.
Sorry that I take my sexuality so seriously, to some it may be a bit of a laugh or a joke but it's a really serious matter to me. Shouldn't of even bothered posting here.

[Jack_]

For someone who is meant to like every gender on the planet, you don't seem all that tolerant or understanding.

First of all I've never actually claimed to be pansexual at present, I did in the past but as I outlined earlier in the thread, I find my situation complex and prefer not to label myself except as bisexual if needs be to make things easier.

Yeah, I'm not at all tolerant of ignorance and insensitivity when it comes to an issue like sexuality that requires so much respect and understanding. Again, there is nothing wrong with people taking an interest and wanting to understand more, that's a good thing - but passing other people's feelings off with derogatory comments is out of order. Forgive me for not respecting such ignorance.

[lostalex]

is being called hipster really derogatory? Now you are offending all the hipsters. It's like a never ending cycle of offense.

[Jack_]

I'm actually quite appalled this is even being debated.

If someone called a bisexual member of this forum a closeted gay, greedy and the like, I'm pretty sure they'd be infracted. Just because another sexual orientation isn't as well known, that doesn't give people the right to lambast users who may possess that identity. Is it one rule for some and another rule for others or are we allowed to be prejudiced towards other members now?

[GypsyGoth]

First of all I've never actually claimed to be pansexual at present, I did in the past but as I outlined earlier in the thread, I find my situation complex and prefer not to label myself except as bisexual if needs be to make things easier.

Yeah, I'm not at all tolerant of ignorance and insensitivity when it comes to an issue like sexuality that requires so much respect and understanding. Again, there is nothing wrong with people taking an interest and wanting to understand more, that's a good thing - but passing other people's feelings off with derogatory comments is out of order. Forgive me for not respecting such ignorance.

I think it's fine not labelling yourself, but you seem to be speaking out in defence of pansexuality, and it was never under attack by the way.

Caitlin different see a difference between pansexuality and bisexuality. It almost seems that in order to be pansexual, you'd have to think that bisexuals aren't attracted to transgendered people.

And what derogatory comments were made?

[Jack_]

I think it's fine not labelling yourself, but you seem to be speaking out in defence of pansexuality, and it was never under attack by the way.

Caitlin different see a difference between pansexuality and bisexuality. It almost seems that in order to be pansexual, you'd have to think that bisexuals aren't attracted to transgendered people.

And what derogatory comments were made?

I'm speaking out in defence of pansexuality because that's the issue that has been raised in the last few pages, and I do believe a few comments were attacking it. Actually no, not believe, they were attacking it. I'd speak out in defence of homosexuality if that was criticised (I have done many times before both on here, elsewhere online and in real life) and other sexual orientations because again, sexuality is an issue I feel passionate about and I think people should be open minded, accepting, respectful and non-judgemental about it no matter what a person's preference or identity is. This is not an isolated defence from me, I cannot abide ignorance and disrespect for this issue.

Well I've certainly never thought that, but how I'd explain pansexuality is another separate issue.

And referring to someone's sexual orientation and as such their personal feelings as a way of being 'different' and 'hipster' devalues and demonises it. It is belittling and disrespectful to those who may be struggling with it themselves. That is derogatory. People can try and spin it any way they want, but it is.

[GypsyGoth]

I'm speaking out in defence of pansexuality because that's the issue that has been raised in the last few pages, and I do believe a few comments were attacking it. Actually no, not believe, they were attacking it. I'd speak out in defence of homosexuality if that was criticised (I have done many times before both on here, elsewhere online and in real life) and other sexual orientations because again, sexuality is an issue I feel passionate about and I think people should be open minded, accepting, respectful and non-judgemental about it no matter what a person's preference or identity is. This is not an isolated defence from me, I cannot abide ignorance and disrespect for this issue.

Well I've certainly never thought that, but how I'd explain pansexuality is another separate issue.

And referring to someone's sexual orientation and as such their personal feelings as a way of being 'different' and 'hipster' devalues and demonises it. It is belittling and disrespectful to those who may be struggling with it themselves. That is derogatory. People can try and spin it any way they want, but it is.

Choosing to get upset over words like "hipster" and "different" seems like a waste of energy to me. As lostalex mentioned, are they really such bad labels.

And I am sorry that you felt belittled and disrespected by Caitlin, Nate & me chatting about sexuality, but I guarantee you, that was not our intent.

To me you're a bit of an expect on pansexuality, you're the first person I ever encountered who called themselves it. And I would really like to hear you define it, but maybe another time as this debate is in danger of going around in circles.

Anyway I'll just finish by saying once again that no offence was meant, and I apologise.

[Tom4784]

*looks into thread*

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m44br8FkT11qcr9e3.gif

[Jack_]

Choosing to get upset over words like "hipster" and "different" seems like a waste of energy to me. As lostalex mentioned, are they really such bad labels.

And I am sorry that you felt belittled and disrespected by Caitlin, Nate & me chatting about sexuality, but I guarantee you, that was not our intent.

To me you're a bit of an expect on pansexuality, you're the first person I ever encountered who called themselves it. And I would really like to hear you define it, but maybe another time as this debate is in danger of going around in circles.

Anyway I'll just finish by saying once again that no offence was meant, and I apologise.

In the context they were used they were quite insulting. It was the way in which they were said. 'Meh, it just seems a way of being 'different'' is to forget that actually the people who have identified themselves as that have real feelings and it's not just some silly little choice to draw attention to themselves or to look cool or unique, as was also implied by the 'hipster' remark. This is how people actually feel, it's not a fashionable surface lifestyle choice, this is deep-rooted within a person.

I didn't feel insulted by you but I do much appreciate your apology, thank you :)

And that's quite kind of you to put it like that, and I would be more than happy to explain how I see it at some other point as well. I enjoy discussing things like this, you learn a lot, all people have to do is remain respectful and sensitive to people's feelings and experiences, an issue like this really requires it.

Apology accepted and appreciated :hug:

[Ammi]

I'm speaking out in defence of pansexuality because that's the issue that has been raised in the last few pages, and I do believe a few comments were attacking it. Actually no, not believe, they were attacking it. I'd speak out in defence of homosexuality if that was criticised (I have done many times before both on here, elsewhere online and in real life) and other sexual orientations because again, sexuality is an issue I feel passionate about and I think people should be open minded, accepting, respectful and non-judgemental about it no matter what a person's preference or identity is. This is not an isolated defence from me, I cannot abide ignorance and disrespect for this issue.

Well I've certainly never thought that, but how I'd explain pansexuality is another separate issue.

And referring to someone's sexual orientation and as such their personal feelings as a way of being 'different' and 'hipster' devalues and demonises it. It is belittling and disrespectful to those who may be struggling with it themselves. That is derogatory. People can try and spin it any way they want, but it is.

Choosing to get upset over words like "hipster" and "different" seems like a waste of energy to me. As lostalex mentioned, are they really such bad labels.

And I am sorry that you felt belittled and disrespected by Caitlin, Nate & me chatting about sexuality, but I guarantee you, that was not our intent.

To me you're a bit of an expect on pansexuality, you're the first person I ever encountered who called themselves it. And I would really like to hear you define it, but maybe another time as this debate is in danger of going around in circles.

Anyway I'll just finish by saying once again that no offence was meant, and I apologise.




..I don’t see anything insulting or discriminating in this thread though...I think there are a lot of people who don’t understand about every type of sexuality and that’s the good thing about having these sort of discussions etc..to learn things that you probably really should know, but don’t always...but I also think that you can lighten a thread or whatever by making a throwaway comment that means nothing at all and doesn’t reflect any views or discriminations, without being accused of such...I understand exactly what Ninastar said, whether it was the right understanding of pan sexuality or not, it was her understanding and also said with respect and not discrimination..I also feel that Nathan’s comment didn’t in anyway discriminate but just reaffirmed etc what other ‘personal views/understandings’ on the internet were..which really I suppose just confirms that we should talk about these things more so we actually understand properly...I actually thought pan sexuality was more about an ‘emotional romantic’ love for either sex, rather than a physical thing..but that isn’t accurate, so it’s good for me and others to learn but I don’t think that telling people that their comments are derogatory, ignorant or that they’re not showing empathy etc , when they haven’t said anything to merit those sort of offensive remarks is a very good way of explaining differences etc in sexualities...


..and sexuality is such a personal thing and should never be disrespected and in an ideal world, always be accepted as well..but from reading this thread, Ninastar didn’t disrespect anything, neither did Nathan..but your posts are quite disrespectful and derogatory to them..and if their understanding or anyone else’s is incorrect, then for everyone who is interested in knowing more about different sexualities, then attacking them for their misunderstanding isn’t ever going to keep these discussions open...if it’s felt that people are ‘ignorant’..then educate them..with civility and respectfully...don’t accuse them of something which none of their posts indicate that they are...


...the 'hipster' remark in my opinion was nothing..a throwaway comment..maybe a 'lightener' to the thread/topic..not offensive/derogatory/dierespectful etc in any way..unless chosen to take it that way..but as has been debated on this forum several times before, when it comes to humour and 'controversial' or sensitive topics and specific comedians etc...humour is kind of needed as well..and doesn't reflect discriminations at all..people will always be passionate and sensitive in certain areas of their lives, we can't not be really....but let's say for instance.. if 'lighteners' or even jokes in the case of say Frankie Boyle/Ricky Gervais etc are taken too seriously to reflect their actual views and they're attacked for them then understanding and points are completely often lost..... of course, these are just my opinions....I hope this makes sense, I'm rushing for work....


EDIT:..with an opportunity to educate..you don't need to insult..in fact, it's probably a reasonably sure way for that persons understanding never to change...and humour is needed for balance as well..no matter how personal a subject or how passionate you are..that's the very time you may need it most.....

[Ammi]

..oh, I should have said that the reason I quoted GGs post as well was because in my opinion no apologies were needed from her or anyone else as nothing disrespectful was said..except (and also my opinion) things that were said to them and not by them...as you yourself have said Jack on several occasions and you know I respect you for it as well..humour, lightheartedness etc is needed as well..balance...people have 'their way' of saying things and I guess that is also an individual thing like sexuality, you could say..but it's about realising when something is said in a derogatory way and when it's not at all...and no discrimination is there...Ninastar, Nathan, GG have never in my opinion showed any indication of being discriminating on sexuality...I would say that the reason why they're very well liked and popular on this forum as well is because they're not discriminating/judgemental of anything or anyone and are very open to individuality in every area, including sexuality...the posts that they make indicate that to me anyway...it's like the 'who quoted what' thread and learning the ways people say things etc....

...oh and also lol..the reason I mentioned Frankie Boyle etc is because whenever a topic is sensitive then offence will be taken, that's inevitable..if you have a disabled child etc for example or feel passionately about that subject only being spoken of in the most serious of ways..then you will take offence and be sensitive..that's only natural..it doesn't mean that those comments were meant how you yourself percieved them though or that person shows any 'ignorance'...it just means it's your own 'personal area' of a boundary you have about that topic....what you personally feel is offensive and what isn't...


..(and I really have to go to work now..will get sacked..can you start a collection for me please Jack...as always, your posts distract me from doing what I should be doing)....

[Niall]

Caitlin different see a difference between pansexuality and bisexuality. It almost seems that in order to be pansexual, you'd have to think that bisexuals aren't attracted to transgendered people.


I don't think that's necessarily true. It's my understanding that pansexuals are more about the emotional connection to the over person over the physical connection, so maybe that's the differing aspect it has with bisexuality.

[lostalex]

I don't think that's necessarily true. It's my understanding that pansexuals are more about the emotional connection to the over person over the physical connection, so maybe that's the differing aspect it has with bisexuality.

I still don't see how that's different. That's implying that other sexualities are not also attracted to people emotionally. Obviously gays and str8s and bisexuals also have an emotional connection, so it's kind of offensive for pansexuals to say that they are more connected emotionally than other sexualities.

I'm gay, but that doesn't mean im just attracted to dicks, or my attractions are just based on the physical body. Having an emotional connection is just as (if not more) important than immediate sexual attraction. I've definitely been attracted to some men emotionally that i wouldn't be attracted to just based on their physical body. And i've also been very attracted to some physical bodies, that because of their personality or lack of emotional connection makes them ugly to me. That's true for all gay and str8 people. That doesn't make me "pansexual" though.

I'm still not understanding the definition of pansexual.

[Niall]

I still don't see how that's different. That's implying that other sexualities are not also attracted to people emotionally. Obviously gays and str8s and bisexuals also have an emotional connection, so it's kind of offensive for pansexuals to say that they are more connected emotionally than other sexualities.

I'm gay, but that doesn't mean im just attracted to dicks, or my attractions are just based on the physical body. Having an emotional connection is just as (if not more) important than immediate sexual attraction. I've definitely been attracted to some men emotionally that i wouldn't be attracted to just based on their physical body. And i've also been very attracted to some physical bodies, that because of their personality or lack of emotional connection makes them ugly to me. That's true for all gay and str8 people. That doesn't make me "pansexual" though.

I'm still not understanding the definition of pansexual.

It might sound like that but I think the difference with pansexuals is that it's more purely about the notional connection for them, whereas with other sexualities its more reliant on both emotional and physical attraction to the other person? That's how I understand it anyway.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I've always understood pansexuality to be a thing where the individual is more about the emotional connection to the other person rather than the physical (although they enjoy the physical side too)? I remember looking it up on Wikipedia a while ago and it said pansexuals are 'gender blind' in a sense. I suppose it's difficult to separate from bisexuality at first because of the similarities but they really are two different things.

What so Homosexual, Bi sexual and Hetro sexual people don't have emotional connections with people, only physical???? wut?

[ChristmasNeeve]

It might sound like that but I think the difference with pansexuals is that it's more purely about the notional connection for them, whereas with other sexualities its more reliant on both emotional and physical attraction to the other person? That's how I understand it anyway.

So do they have a physical relationship with these people they are emotionally attracted to?

[Roy Mars III]

Bisexuals are attracted to male or females. Hence the 'bi' part meaning two

Pansexuals are attracted to male, female, transgender.

[Kizzy]

Are sexualities fashionable? my daughter says that she feels some suggest they are bisexual to be cool... Is pan the new bi?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Bisexuals are attracted to male or females. Hence the 'bi' part meaning two

Pansexuals are attracted to male, female, transgender.

Then you're suggesting that Transgenders are a different sexuality to male or female, isn't that discriminatory in itself?

[Roy Mars III]

Then you're suggesting that Transgenders are a different sexuality to male or female, isn't that discriminatory in itself?

a good point, I don't know, it's the definition that I've always heard.

[ChristmasNeeve]

a good point, I don't know, it's the definition that I've always heard.

Yeah I mean I sort of understand what you're saying but I'm sure there are plenty of "straight" or "bi" people who are in relationships with transgender people, do they then have to say they're actually Pansexual because they fell for a transgendered person and if that's the case isn't that insulting to their transgender partner?

[Jack_]

Are sexualities fashionable? my daughter says that she feels some suggest they are bisexual to be cool... Is pan the new bi?

Don't you start as well.

[Josy]

Don't you start as well.

I think Ammi has a point with the posts she made over the page jack, you are the only person I see in this thread being rude and insulting.

[lostalex]

Bisexuals are attracted to male or females. Hence the 'bi' part meaning two

Pansexuals are attracted to male, female, transgender.

but there are gay people and str8 people who are also attracted to some transexuals, so that doesn't work as a definition. There are a lot of str8 guys who are attracted to trans women. Havn't you seen The Crying Game?

[Ninastar]

Bisexuals are attracted to male or females. Hence the 'bi' part meaning two

Pansexuals are attracted to male, female, transgender.

Yes but I consider myself bi and I genuinely wouldn't care. And I'm willing to bet a pay check that more than half of bisexual people would too

[Niall]

What so Homosexual, Bi sexual and Hetro sexual people don't have emotional connections with people, only physical???? wut?

I never said that. I'm just saying that from the way I understand it or how it's been explained to me, the physical relationship isn't something that's a big deal to them.

So do they have a physical relationship with these people they are emotionally attracted to?

Well I guess so, I'm just saying how I understand the term. I think they still would have a physical relationship but it's something that matters a lot less to them.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I never said that. I'm just saying that from the way I understand it or how it's been explained to me, the physical relationship isn't something that's a big deal to them.



Well I guess so, I'm just saying how I understand the term. I think they still would have a physical relationship but it's something that matters a lot less to them.

there's lots of straight, gay and Bi people who don't have sex as high on their list of priorities as well though

[Niall]

Pansexuality, or omnisexuality, is sexual attraction, sexual desire, romantic love, or emotional attraction toward persons of all gender identities and biological sexes. Self-identified pansexuals may consider pansexuality a sexual orientation, and refer to themselves as gender-blind, asserting that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others. The Oxford English Dictionary defines pansexuality as, "not limited or inhibited in sexual choice with regard to gender or activity".

The concept of pansexuality deliberately rejects the gender binary, the "notion of two genders and indeed of specific sexual orientations", as pansexual people are open to relationships with people who do not identify as strictly men or women.

That's the Wikipedia definition for pansexuality. In short, it says it's more about the person rather than their body which attracts them.

[ChristmasNeeve]

That's the Wikipedia definition for pansexuality. In short, it says it's more about the person rather than their body which attracts them.

But that's true for a whole lot of people, straight, gay or Bi imo. I wouldn't be with someone just for their body, it's completely about the person.

[Tom4784]

It's just a different way to say bisexual tbh.

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[Niall]

there's lots of straight, gay and Bi people who don't have sex as high on their list of priorities as well though

I know. It's a hard thing to get your head around at first but it makes sense once you do. There is a difference really.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I know. It's a hard thing to get your head around at first but it makes sense nice you do. There is a difference really.

I can't see it and tbh it's kind of insulting to straight, gay and Bi people to say that we don't "see the person" and are only attracted physically to people.

[Niall]

But that's true for a whole lot of people, straight, gay or Bi imo. I wouldn't be with someone just for their body, it's completely about the person.

Me too, but I still think pansexuality is somehow different from that. :shrug: It's just how I see it in my head. It's a separate thing. It might be very similar to others but it's just slightly different to my mind.

[GypsyGoth]

I didn't realise before that not only are Asexuals not attracted to either gender but they also don't even have a desire to masturbate. And approximately 1% are Asexual.

Also there is something called Demisexual, it's called that because it is between sexual and asexual and describes people who can only have sexual desire for someone if there is an emotional connection. So I guess they're unable to have casual sex.

And Pansexual does seem almost like a political correct way of saying Bisexual. But also I could see where Pansexuality might been seen as something that discriminates, by the way it suggests that trans people are of neither gender, when in fact trans people do belong to one of the genders.

So in a way I do find it tough to see it as a separate sexuality, because to me Bisexuality perfectly describes people who label themselves Pansexual. Being gender-blind is being Bisexual.

There is also a term called Polysexuality and it's the attraction to multiple genders and/or sexes :shrug: "may be attracted to transgender people, third gender people, two-spirit people, genderqueer people, plus people who are intersex," (from wiki). However once again that is what Bisexuality means to me, it's an umbrella term that mean you're attracted to all genders.

I don't think Demisexual, Pansexual and Polysexual are actually separate Sexualities along side Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Asexuality and Heterosexuality. I think they're more a sub clarification of how you label yourself.

[ChristmasNeeve]

That's how I would see it too Claudia. Great post btw.

[GypsyGoth]

Thank you :love:

[Kizzy]

My head hurts.... haha. I'm demisexual... I hate on hetrosexuals, sooo mainstream :idc:

[ChristmasNeeve]

My head hurts.... haha. I'm demisexual... I hate on hetrosexuals, sooo mainstream :idc:

lol, Demisexual :laugh: I mean fgs, plenty of people don't have casual sex, that does not make them of different sexual orientation to a straight person (if they're straight) who does have casual sex, that just getting ridiculous

[Jack_]

I think Ammi has a point with the posts she made over the page jack, you are the only person I see in this thread being rude and insulting.

Well forgive me for finding insulting remarks about somebody's feelings offensive, I'm terribly sorry, how awful of me.

As for the posts Ammi made, I can see the possibility that the 'hipster' comments were just jokes, but this post:

Meh I just see it as another way to be 'different'

Is not in anyway intended to be humorous. It is a serious post belittling those it is directed at and devalues their personal feelings and experiences, implying that actually no, these aren't the ways some people feel about themselves and wish to identity themselves, instead it's just a fashionable lifestyle choice to make them look cool, unique and edgy. That is insulting and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. This forum is riddled with double standards at the best of times but this is taking the piss, had that comment been directed at bisexuals, or any other sexual orientation for that matter, the reaction would've been remarkably different and the comment would have been dealt with. It's only acceptable because it's not a commonly known, used or understood label or preference so it's as if it's open to be insulted. There is nothing wrong with being inquisitive, but passing somebody's feelings (which they may be struggling with or have struggled with) off as a way of being 'different' is quite offensive to those it is aimed at.

lostalex got it right, people are free to label themselves and define their sexuality in any way they wish. People have the right to take an interest if they want, but not to pass critical judgements upon them. It's completely out of order. Nobody understands somebody else's true feelings, only the person experiencing them does.

[ChristmasNeeve]

The problem is Jack that no one seems to be able to give a proper explanation as to how Pansexuals are any different to Bisexuals. If there was a clear difference there would be no confusion, how can you expect people to respect this "different" sexual orientation when as far as I can see there is no difference at all

[Kizzy]

Theres that word again, stop being so offended by everything then peoples views won't sound so offensive jack.

[Jack_]

The problem is Jack that no one seems to be able to give a proper explanation as to how Pansexuals are any different to Bisexuals. If there was a clear difference there would be no confusion, how can you expect people to respect this "different" sexual orientation when as far as I can see there is no difference at all

I will later, I'd be quite happy to. Again though I'm not totally clued up on it either but will try my best to explain.

But just because there's confusion and people are struggling to understand the difference that gives nobody the right to disrespect the way somebody wishes to view themselves, I'm sorry but it doesn't. Question all you like in a polite manner, passing things off as ways of being 'different' just insinuates it's some easy little choice for attention, which is quite hurtful.

People can label and define themselves how they wish, it's nobody else's places to criticise them for doing so. There may be no difference to you but if there is to other people then you need to respect that and treat them as you would treat anybody else.

[Jack_]

Saw your post Jess, not surprised it's been deleted. But thank you for understanding anyway, it's boosted my confidence a little that some people can remain respectful. I was beginning to feel disheartened that it's just me and Reece who are seeing this the same way. Appreciate it a lot :love:

It's funny because in the early stages of this thread I praised this forum for being diverse and largely open-minded, funny how things change eh. It's a shame.

[GypsyGoth]

Jack you are choosing to take offence, and then being rude on the back of that.

If a Bisexual is someone who doesn't care what gender someone is, then how is Pansexual any different?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Being open minded is trying to understand things, which is what we are trying to do, I'm not going to blindly agree with something that makes no sense. You've just said yourself Jack that you can't even explain to me what the difference is but you're still saying that there definitely is a difference.........

Oh and btw, you're calling Jessica respectful for calling half the people posting in here idiots but Caitlin is disrespectful for saying Pansexuals are trying to be different.....ok then