Ben Frow- Live Feed every night on 5*

[*mazedsalv**]

A poster on DS emailed him (Jeff Ford's replacement) what will happen, and he stated that there will be Live Feed on 5* every night. I hope that's true, but depends how long for. Probably only for an hour. If it was from 11pm until the morning, and then a couple of hours in the afternoon, it would be as close as we can go I guess!

At least it's a step in the right direction :)

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=65241764&posted=1#post65241764

[Black Dagger]

If it's true, I'm happyish, going in the right direction, would I like more? Obviously.

[InOne]

Still not enough. All or nothing I say. The live feed they've given us so far feels manipulated and it's always when an 'event' is going on.

[Jack_]

If we get 8 hours overnight I will worship this man forever :love: this is a step in the right direction

One hour would be alright, but teasing.

[Jack_]

Hang on though, I think we should take this with a pinch of salt for now because that poster has two posts and there's no screenshot of this email.

[*mazedsalv**]

Still not enough. All or nothing I say. The live feed they've given us so far feels manipulated and it's always when an 'event' is going on.

Guess it's something. I would LOVE for them to do it online. I would buy that. They would get a lot of money for it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Hang on though, I think we should take this with a pinch of salt for now because that poster has two posts and there's no screenshot of this email.

One thing to do; one of us should email Ben Frow and see what he replies. But ask politely I would say :p My email doesn't work at the moment :(

[InOne]

Guess it's something. I would LOVE for them to do it online. I would buy that. They would get a lot of money for it.

Yeah the online one was good, I got quite addicted to it LOL made a terrible series better.

I just hate all we get is bits and bats of live feed and they make out it's a big deal. Like when Brian used to pull a stupid face and go "It's back", it should just be a part of BB.

[Sawyer]

What is this dudes email?

[*mazedsalv**]

What is this dudes email?

ben.frow@channel5.com

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I suppose if true, it's a step in the right direction.

[emmetmcl]

Overnight feed would be great, but Id like to see a screenshot first.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Overnight feed would be great, but Id like to see a screenshot first.

Me too

[Petershaw1984]

Was just gunna post this. As said its a start and a step in the right direction. Hopefully woth emma at the helm we could go back to the glory days of davina esque live feed big brother

[lukee]

emailed

[*mazedsalv**]

This was the email that the poster got...

There will be a live feed each night on 5*…


Ben Frow

Director of Programming


The Northern & Shell Building

Number 10 Lower Thames Street, London EC3R 6EN



www.five.tv

[Marcus.]

well it better the noughting

[Patrick]

Still not enough. All or nothing I say. The live feed they've given us so far feels manipulated and it's always when an 'event' is going on.

This. Especially with CBB11.

[Patrick]

TBH guys I would urge you all to email him - I just did, unfortunately I didn't emphasize the importance of LONG Live Feed, as I didn't see this thread.

If anyone would like to see my email, here it is:


Hello there,

I would just like to express my views to you on the upcoming series of Big Brother this Summer, firstly I'm personally delighted that you have replaced Jeff Ford as director of programming on Channel 5 - as a long term Big Brother fan, I felt that he didn't connect with the core fan base the show has and lead to very poor leadership and production when it came to overseeing the franchise as a whole since it's move to the channel in 2011.

I'm eager to express my interest to you, on behalf of thousands upon thousands of Big Brother fans across the country - to seriously consider taking the show back to it's roots. I understand wholeheartedly that you (along with the production team of Big Brother) need to ensure that shows stay modern and up to date - but stripping it of vital components such as, the live streaming, isn't the right way to go about achieving high viewing figures when it comes to television ratings.

There is nothing more disappointing for us fans, than to see our favourite show perform poorly in the ratings, and this could simply change with the re-installation of live streaming. (Whether that be through online feeds or a red button option)

Jeff Ford had previously made the statement numerous times that live feed for Big Brother was 'unnecessary' in these times, as fans are more interested in the 'social media' aspect of the show.
I can tell you from a fan's perspective, and a long standing member of several Big Brother fan groups from the show begun, this is not the case - people are more interested in watching the housemates, rather than reading what they are doing on Twitter or Facebook.

Statistics prove everything aswell. The 10th series of Big Brother on Channel 4, pulled in a series average of 2.5m viewers, which at the time was the lowest in the show's history.
Without a doubt, the one and only factor to the ratings falling in 2009, was because Channel 4 decided to axe the live streaming, by 2010 - they had realised their vital mistake, and reinstalled the live streaming, and by the end of that Summer, the 11th series of Big Brother averaged at 3.2m viewers, this is no coincidence.

If you want to create a successful Big Brother series, there are alot of different factors that must be addressed - however, the most important, is the live feed.

So I ask you, once again on behalf of all Big Brother fans - please reconsider the importance of a live streaming for the 14th series of Big Brother.

Thanks for your time, hopefully I hear back from you in due course.


- Patrick


Still though, the more people flood this guys inbox with messages like that - only speaking about 24hr Live Feed, the better. Because I don't want them thinking they can shut us up by giving us 45 minutes of live streaming a night, that's pathetic. Plus I hate 5*, the quality is just horrendous. ew.

I'm getting abit picky now :laugh: But still.

[Tregard]

Have we ever had 24 hour feed on a channel? I don't even think Channel 5 has red button capabilities :/

[Patrick]

Have we ever had 24 hour feed on a channel? I don't even think Channel 5 has red button capabilities :/

We had 24 Hour live feed on E4 I believe - through red button, and they can have the red button capabilities if they got it set up I suppose.

They could easily do it online though, I mean we see it in the BOTS Studio - all it would take is for them to literally put a wire in the right place, and bang. Online Live Feed.

[Tregard]

We had 24 Hour live feed on E4 I believe - through red button, and they can have the red button capabilities if they got it set up I suppose.

They could easily do it online though, I mean we see it in the BOTS Studio - all it would take is for them to literally put a wire in the right place, and bang. Online Live Feed.

True, although Channel 5 aren't the best with their online services.

[JohnnyBB]

This was the email that the poster got...

M 07711055573



Has Anyone Rang His Mobile.

[Headie]

Has Anyone Rang His Mobile.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Glenn.]

Has Anyone Rang His Mobile.

:laugh2:

[JohnnyBB]

well it didint sound like an oldish guy when i rang it then the guy sounded like a young packistan kid? i rang it again it went to 02 answer phone hahah.

[reece(:]

:joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

I just deleted the number :laugh2:

Forgot it was on there. :p

[michael21]

A poster on DS emailed him (Jeff Ford's replacement) what will happen, and he stated that there will be Live Feed on 5* every night. I hope that's true, but depends how long for. Probably only for an hour. If it was from 11pm until the morning, and then a couple of hours in the afternoon, it would be as close as we can go I guess!

At least it's a step in the right direction :)

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=65241764&posted=1#post65241764

5* close at midnight so don't expect to much :bawling::bawling::bawling:

[Headie]

I just deleted the number :laugh2:

Forgot it was on there. :p

It's still in JohnnyBB's post quoting you :laugh:

[oathbreaker]

I have no idea what's going on had a reply from the chap 4 days ago asked me to keep its contents quiet until C5 informed the press and I know a few others had the same reply.

how this is going to work no idea because Jeff ford said last year one of the key issues with no overnight feed was the fact C5 was in contract with the Casino people and 5* was under lease with overnight adverts.5* was the channel mentioned in the email

[newsbb]

id love this tbh.

[oathbreaker]

5* is such an underused Channel I doubt a 24hr feed will ever return. But giving people enough to at least see the various sides of HM's not just from a selective h/l show or very short vids via the website will help restore a connection between HM's and supporters and should Generate a lot more debate on the forums about houselife and interactions.

[JohnnyBB]

5* is such an underused Channel I doubt a 24hr feed will ever return. But giving people enough to at least see the various sides of HM's not just from a selective h/l show or very short vids via the website will help restore a connection between HM's and supporters and should Generate a lot more debate on the forums about houselife and interactions.

oath can you show us the email? i dont think ben.frow@channel5.com is even a real email.

[DigitalSid]

Try not to spam guys, he's a busy man, if we annoy him, he'll be less inclined to listen. happybbfan on DS emailed him a few days ago and I emailed him this afternoon, there's more chance of a reply if you leave it at a slow, steady stream of requests than if we forum lobby. Send any further e-mails to channel 5, not Ben.

[JohnnyBB]

Try not to spam guys, he's a busy man, if we annoy him, he'll be less inclined to listen. happybbfan on DS emailed him a few days ago and I emailed him this afternoon, there's more chance of a reply if you leave it at a slow, steady stream of requests than if we forum lobby. Send any further e-mails to channel 5, not Ben.

sid the person who picked the phone up was a kid, somones takeing the piss.

[DigitalSid]

sid the person who picked the phone up was a kid, somones takeing the piss.

I'm referring to the requests for Ben's email address since. TIBB has a habbit of not thinking these through and bombarding people till their fed up of hearing about it and in no mood to sympathise with us. Jeff Ford used to reply personally to our questions about it, people cottoned on here and within weeks we were all being forwarded to some C5 bod because of people here all jumping on the band wagon, we've given him our opinion, now let's wait and see what he says.

[Patrick]

Would the email be fact though? I mean why would anyone go to the effort of obtaining a Channel 5 styled email - just to take our complaints?

[Tregard]

What is this fellow's job anyway, is he head of all programming?

[oathbreaker]

Try not to spam guys, he's a busy man, if we annoy him, he'll be less inclined to listen. happybbfan on DS emailed him a few days ago and I emailed him this afternoon, there's more chance of a reply if you leave it at a slow, steady stream of requests than if we forum lobby. Send any further e-mails to channel 5, not Ben.

Agree totally.
only 1 email I sent off got the reply and wont trouble the guy again.
He does seem very nice and replied quickly.

I just wonder if the person who posted on DS had the same message about keeping quiet until they inform the press of the setup?

its the main reason I didn't publish his email on Twitter because he did ask not to publish the email or its content and I didn't want to piss him off.

[armand.kay]

Even the producers/endemol of bb want live feed so I'm sure if this change will cause them to push the idea.

[emmetmcl]

http://imageshack.us/f/42/letterqw.jpg/

A link to the image of an email received from Ben Frow

[Tregard]

http://imageshack.us/f/42/letterqw.jpg/

A link to the image of an email received from Ben Frow

"Keep it to yourself"

You've blown his cover man!

[Sawyer]

'but keep it to yourself for now!'

not sure if I believe this.

[oathbreaker]

that link is off my twitter page.Im totally confused why he said that because then others started to get emails and print what they had been told.

[Sawyer]

no, others just jumped on the bandwagon and fake emails from Frow.

[Vanessa]

Omg! Live feed! :amazed:

[oathbreaker]

no, others just jumped on the bandwagon and fake emails from Frow.

well if that is the case they are very sad people :(
I removed the image to be on the safe side.

[Samm]

Bring back live feed

[DigitalSid]

that link is off my twitter page.Im totally confused why he said that because then others started to get emails and print what they had been told.

Number of reasons
1. The dodgy legal ground around making public private communications without (proper) public interest
2. Wanting to have a press release out rather than leave everyone to speculate
3. He was telling those who cared enough to ask in confidence

[oathbreaker]

Bring back live feed

its go to be back in some shape or form.
from fords comments earlier its clear the revenue needs to be raised.
that's the most crazy thing if they just have faith in the format and maybe more importantly faith in the fans it will work good for them.

remember just before bb11 ? they gave away those free passes the blooming website crashed with people trying to get one.

If its being offered free I think the best we will get is either some late night feed or few hours dotted through the day and some in the night.

[reece(:]

I remember just missing short on one of those BB11 free passes. :bawling:

[oathbreaker]

I remember just missing short on one of those BB11 free passes. :bawling:

aye they went in like 3 mins flat..

[DigitalSid]

I remember just missing short on one of those BB11 free passes. :bawling:

Was late getting online, while I was and am more than willing to pay, I was gutted. I gave up hope a month or two too early to be one of the dirty LF thirty.

[Sawyer]

Desperate for more news!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Desperate for more news!

Me too, I'm getting really excited now about the new series.

[Patrick]

The feeling of getting a free BB11 Live Pass :lovedup: Kicked off Summer 2010 in style.

[Jarrod]

I really do have a slightly more positive feeling about the Live Feed this year.

[Marcus.]

will let hope
*touch wood*
that we do

[jackc1806]

So these emails confirm LF? If they're not false?

[@bbuk_fans]

I don't understand the emails, i'm a little suspicious with these alleged "confirmation" of live feed on email. WHY would Ben, (who has been with Channel 5 in his new job as head of programming less than 2 or 3 months) potentially risk his job in telling a viewer about a decision that hasn't made to press yet?! Obviously there's customer/audience service, but to tell someone to keep it quiet is just plain stupid...That's almost like ITV head of programming saying "yes its true, X factor is getting the axe after this year, but keep it quiet" when obviously it'll be all over twitter in 5 minutes , it's totally unprofessional. Usually in media, nothing is official until it's confirmed in a press release etc, so don't take the word of it coming back just yet people.

[oathbreaker]

I don't understand the emails, i'm a little suspicious with these alleged "confirmation" of live feed on email. WHY would Ben, (who has been with Channel 5 in his new job as head of programming less than 2 or 3 months) potentially risk his job in telling a viewer about a decision that hasn't made to press yet?! Obviously there's customer/audience service, but to tell someone to keep it quiet is just plain stupid...That's almost like ITV head of programming saying "yes its true, X factor is getting the axe after this year, but keep it quiet" when obviously it'll be all over twitter in 5 minutes , it's totally unprofessional. Usually in media, nothing is official until it's confirmed in a press release etc, so don't take the word of it coming back just yet people.


all I can say it was 100% off Ben frow
im confused to be honest as I told people on twitter I didn't want to share the email as he did say keep it quiet then when others started posting I thought maybe the situation had changed.

I saw one reply that was the same contact numbers as I saw so assumed it must be legit.I think as happyfan said on Twitter its just best to hangfire now until C5 want to confirm.

I do know some others have had replies and different again on some details but saying the same thing.So that might suggest there's a very fluid situation going on at the moment.

cut a very long story short I sent C5 a huge folder at the end of last year even though I left Digital spy I keep just poking C5 about a livefeed coming back.Jeff ford wrote me a letter about some of the issues I raised in that and some of the guys at DS wrote stuff which I printed off and sent back to him.

when I got in touch with Ben Frow I asked him did he still have the Folder etc and it went from there basically.

bit pissed off really if some people on another site thought it was funny trying to suggest they had emails I assumed that meant it was okay to show but when someone here pointed out its more than likely false emails I removed it asap.

[oathbreaker]

Well one thing its done is get people talking and posting and just as confused as the first year C5 took it over...lol

[*mazedsalv**]

I hope there is some truth in it Oathy :)

[oathbreaker]

I hope there is some truth in it Oathy :)

aye it just hasn't been the same without it.

[lukee]

loved getting the free pass for bb11 feeds <3

[oathbreaker]

loved getting the free pass for bb11 feeds <3

I just hope any coverage that comes back shocks them with the numbers it creates, and with luck make them realise like the show a feed is far from dead.
Think not having one for the last 2 years has made a lot of people realise how good it was.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah surely by looking at the 5* and Ch5 ratings will make them realize how many people are willing to watch. Throughout some CBB series, the 1 hr of LF has almost got exactly the same ratings as the actual show.

[Me. I Am Salman]

why don't you just screenshot the email for **** sake

[oathbreaker]

why don't you just screenshot the email for **** sake

I did was under the impression others had replies back meaning all was okay.
but there's doubt those posts on DS were legit when they failed to show the screenshots even though they posted copy/paste with his contact numbers at the bottom.

the last thing I want to do is piss him off so I deleted to be on the safe side.
with luck C5 are going to confirm shortly because the email does seem vague on detail apart from the fact its going to be 5* showing.