Man plays the police at their own game

[Jack_]

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:worship: :worship: :worship:

*applauds*

[Niamh.]

I can't watch the whole thing, but it's basically a chavvy idiot abusing the Police? or am I picking it up wrong?

[Ammi]

..I watched the vid until he called the police officers 'bacon breath' and then stopped...the guy is an idiot imo and the police have a hard enough job already...

[Jack_]

I can't watch the whole thing, but it's basically a chavvy idiot abusing the Police? or am I picking it up wrong?

He's not the politest of people admittedly when the video picks up but he's making a point and standing for his rights, why should he have to get out of the car and why exactly did the police officer call for 'backup'? It's intimidation.

Also

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chavs-Demonization-Working-Owen-Jones/dp/1844678644

:nono:

[LemonJam]

Complete bell end.

[Jack_]

This is the description on the video (which is the original copy uploaded by the man it seems):

Another officer who thinks he's above the law. He thinks he can stop me under the Road Traffic Act, and then try and open my car door, which he isn't entitled to do. He causes me to feel harassed, distressed and alarmed, and should be arrested under the Public Order Act. He tells me I am not being detained and that I am free to go, then when I start to drive away he says over his radio that I am making off. He requests assistance and another 7 cuntstubbles turn up in 3 vehicles , then he tries to open my car door again.
I'd like to know why he was trying to open my door, and what his intentions were if the door had opened. He tells me to turn the camera off so he can speak to me properly..Why wouldn't a law abiding cuntstubble be able to speak to me properly on camera ? I might set up a website expose-corrupt-police.org, where people can upload their videoed evidence of police behaving inappropriately. I'm getting sick of them.. It's not just the odd one, every time I get stopped they try and open my door or order me out of the car, because the power goes to their head and they think they're above the law. And they wonder why there are Dale Cregans and Raoul Moats out there. 2 cunstubbles were ran over recently in Manchester after stopping a vehicle. It wouldn't surprise me if they were abusing their authority too. I've been persecuted by the police since being a child, I've been assaulted, verbally abused and had them lie in order to get an arrest. I'm sure there are millions of people out there who have suffered similar experiences too. How long do they think people will put up with it for ? I'm sure that there are nice coppers out there, that do things by the book. And I love any copper that stops an old lady getting mugged, or catches a rapist hiding in the bushes, or a kiddy fiddler outside a school, but in my experience the majority of them have let their power go to their head and think that they can behave exactly how they want, breaking laws whilst enforcing them on other people. Imagine what they're doing when they are not being filmed.

[Brother Leon]

Top work.


JMEs versions though>>. Collects the slips you get when they stop you just to show them :joker:

[Niamh.]

He's not the politest of people admittedly when the video picks up but he's making a point and standing for his rights, why should he have to get out of the car and why exactly did the police officer call for 'backup'? It's intimidation.

Also

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chavs-Demonization-Working-Owen-Jones/dp/1844678644

:nono:

Standing up for his rights or acting like a complete idiot hhhmmm let me think... I've been stopped by the Police in my car before, doesn't bother me in the slightest, I have nothing to be afraid of and they're just trying to do their job. He sounds like exactly the type of person a Chav would be tbqh, are you suggesting I have something against working class people? I am a working class person and I'm certainly not labeling all working class people as Chavs, just complete tools like that guy.

[Kizzy]

Bit jumpy that guy.... :suspect:

[Jack_]

Standing up for his rights or acting like a complete idiot hhhmmm let me think... I've been stopped by the Police in my car before, doesn't bother me in the slightest, I have nothing to be afraid of and they're just trying to do their job. He sounds like exactly the type of person a Chav would be tbqh, are you suggesting I have something against working class people? I am a working class person and I'm certainly not labeling all working class people as Chavs, just complete tools like that guy.

No, that word has been become part of the mainstream culture and is used to generalise a lot of working class people and ignore the vast inequality prevalent in society which causes a lot of social problems that are attributed to these so-called 'chavs'. It's turning working class people on their own kind, really.

In modern Britain, the working class has become an object of fear and ridicule. From Little Britain's Vicky Pollard to the demonization of Jade Goody, media and politicians alike dismiss as feckless, criminalized and ignorant a vast, underprivileged swathe of society whose members have become stereotyped by one, hate-filled word: chavs. In this acclaimed investigation, Owen Jones explores how the working class has gone from 'salt of the earth' to 'scum of the earth.' Exposing the ignorance and prejudice at the heart of the chav caricature, he portrays a far more complex reality. The chav stereotype, he argues, is used by governments as a convenient figleaf to avoid genuine engagement with social and economic problems and to justify widening inequality.

I really don't think your stereotypical, so-called 'chav' would have a car or a basic understanding of acts of law or police and citizen's rights either.

[Brother Leon]

If he's been stopped many times then it's not surprising. I've only been stopped 4 times, but I'm already fed up of the bs they spout and the fact a large majority generally think they can chat to you with zero respect just because of their uniform.

[Niamh.]

No, that word has been become part of the mainstream culture and is used to generalise a lot of working class people and ignore the vast inequality prevalent in society which causes a lot of social problems that are attributed to these so-called 'chavs'. It's turning working class people on their own kind, really.



I really don't think your stereotypical, so-called 'chav' would have a car or a basic understanding of acts of law or police and citizen's rights either.

He came across as rude, obnoxious and insulting, the Police did not.

[Jack_]

He came across as rude, obnoxious and insulting, the Police did not.

But that makes him a 'chav'? One day a 'chav' is someone wearing a tracksuit and a hoody, the next it's someone that drinks Stella, and now it's anyone that's 'rude', 'obnoxious' and 'insulting'?

I'm not denying the insults were unnecessary, but that doesn't make him a 'chav' or mean the police are in the right.

[Niamh.]

But that makes him a 'chav'? One day a 'chav' is someone wearing a tracksuit and a hoody, the next it's someone that drinks Stella, and now it's anyone that's 'rude', 'obnoxious' and 'insulting'?

I'm not denying the insults were unnecessary, but that doesn't make him a 'chav' or mean the police are in the right.

omg it's just a bloody word Jack, how about I change the word "chav" to arsehole then in my first post, would that make you feel better?

[Kizzy]

Bacon breath? ... not in anyway stereotyping the police at all there.

[arista]

He is a trouble maker ... Jack


He has been posted in another Police set up

[arista]

Bacon breath? ... not in anyway stereotyping the police at all there.


He Hates Bacon

[Jack_]

Bacon breath? ... not in anyway stereotyping the police at all there.

How many more times am I going to have to say I thought the insults were uncalled for?

[Niamh.]

Bacon breath? ... not in anyway stereotyping the police at all there.

haha, yes exactly

[Jack_]

omg it's just a bloody word Jack, how about I change the word "chav" to arsehole then in my first post, would that make you feel better?

Yes, because people need to understand that perpetuating this stereotype is damaging for the people it is supposed to characterise and the rest of society. It's a smokescreen for the real social issues and is just a way to push a certain section of society further down the pile and cause more problems. This isn't me trying to accuse you of anything btw so please don't take it that way because I wouldn't want to cause offence, this is a word that's part of the mainstream culture so I'm not surprised you used it (many other people have in the comments section of the video), I'm just trying to point out the problems it creates or indeed covers up.

I would recommend to anyone reading a bit of this, it's the actual opening chapter of the book and it works better than me trying to condense it down and explain it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/interactive/2011/sep/01/extract-chavs-owen-jones

[Tom4784]

Nothing to see here, just a chavvy twat.

[GiRTh]

That was hilarious. The driver is perfectly within his rights tbh. Why are there four police officers for one road traffic offence? Despite what you may think of the drivers behavior and demeanor he is in the right. There is no need for 4 police to apprehend this one driver. They are taking the piss what ever way you look at it.

The end where the police drive off sums it up. They know there's no offense taking place here.

[arista]

That was hilarious. The driver is perfectly within his rights tbh. Why are there four police officers for one road traffic offence? Despite what you may think of the drivers behavior and demeanor he is in the right. There is no need for 4 police to apprehend this one driver. They are taking the piss what ever way you look at it.

The end where the police drive off sums it up. They know there's no offense taking place here.


Yes and bacon breath is on YouTube

[GiRTh]

Yes and bacon breath is on YouTubeThey harassed him so he insulted them. Which one is worse?

[Ammi]

....I don't think a lot of members of the public would put up with what the police have to with certain people..the guy was so obnoxious and offensive and they just have to stand there and accept it...

[Apple202]

chavvy arsehole

[Smithy]

I think this thread might have backfired jack :idc:

[Tom4784]

The fact he was a **** overrides any point he might have had.

[Jack_]

chavvy arsehole

'If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.' :)

I think this thread might have backfired jack :idc:

I knew there'd only be one or two who was on his side :joker: that's being taught not to question authority and rules for you

[Patrick]

Watched it last night on Facebook, started out good and I had respect for him - but as the video went on he just became an attention seeking ****.

[Niamh.]

'If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.' :)



I knew there'd only be one or two who was on his side :joker: that's being taught not to question authority and rules for you

If he'd actually just "questioned" the authority rather than hurl insults then maybe peoples opinions would be different Jack

[Ammi]

..it's not about not questioning rules Jack..they wanted to talk to him about handbrake turns, which would have been 'breaking rules' if that's what he was doing...but he didn't give them much of a chance before he started abusing them.. he was completely unecessarily defensive and abusive and to me it was almost as if he was breaking the law, hoping the police would stop him..as if he had it all planned..but whether he did or not, his behaviour was completely provocotive ..and the only reason why 'backup' was called was because of that...he was basically an idiot, Jack...

[Ammi]

..or what Niamh said..

[Apple202]

You're saying I'm not thinking because I have more respect for the police than a yobbish chav? oh that's cool

[Jack_]

'In my view, one of the key effects of greater inequality is to increase feelings of superiority and inferiority in society'

Richard Wilkinson, author of The Spirit Level

If he'd actually just "questioned" the authority rather than hurl insults then maybe people opinions would be different Jack

Oh come on, I've said I don't condone the insults and it ruined his point a little but he said the bacon breath thing about three times in a nine minute video, I'd hardly say that's 'hurling insults'. The rest of the points he raised were fair ones.

[Niamh.]

'In my view, one of the key effects of greater inequality is to increase feelings of superiority and inferiority in society'

Richard Wilkinson, author of The Spirit Level



Oh come on, I've said I don't condone the insults and it ruined his point a little but he said the bacon breath thing about three times in a nine minute video, I'd hardly say that's 'hurling insults'. The rest of the points he raised were fair ones.

It wasn't just the insults it was his tone, he came across as rude and aggressive

[Jack_]

You're saying I'm not thinking because I have more respect for the police than a yobbish chav? oh that's cool

The quote was actually in reference to the chav remark which was an attempt at baiting, I'm not really bothered if people disagree with the man's conduct, that can easily be debated, there's now two separate issues going on in this thread. It's become the norm for people to throw that term about and perpetuate its smokescreen stereotype without really thinking about its implications even when presented with opportunities to, that's what I was referring to. As is the other quote I've just posted.

[Ammi]

..but you can't say that you don't condone the insults and his attitude or behaviour and approve of anything else because that was the cause of it all...the police did nothing offensive or out of order with him...the whole thing was him and his attitude...

[Kizzy]

I didn't mind his tone that was fine, it was just the insults there was no need, he was doing totally fine without them.
He was as he said within his rights so if they had no reason to detain him that is all he need say.

[Jack_]

It wasn't just the insults it was his tone, he came across as rude and aggressive

And on a similar note, you don't think trying to open somebody's car door with no real reason to warrant it isn't intimidating? Not to mention calling for another seven or so police officers to stand around his car? So basically what you're saying is, you agree with his points but he shouldn't have put them across in that manner?

[armand.kay]

Lmaoo are people really insulted by 'Bacon breath' :joker:

[Jack_]

..but you can't say that you don't condone the insults and his attitude or behaviour and approve of anything else because that was the cause of it all...the police did nothing offensive or out of order with him...the whole thing was him and his attitude...

Asking him to step out of the car when he has no obligation to do so, and them attempting to imply that he does (without specifically saying so you'll notice) is out of order IMO. As he said, he can talk to them through the window, why does he need to step out of the car? He was well within his rights to not comply.

[Niamh.]

And on a similar note, you don't think trying to open somebody's car door with no real reason to warrant it isn't intimidating? Not to mention calling for another seven or so police officers to stand around his car? So basically what you're saying is, you agree with his points but he shouldn't have put them across in that manner?

Not really, I don't know the full story tbh. Why did the Police pull him over in the first place?

[Ammi]

Asking him to step out of the car when he has no obligation to do so, and them attempting to imply that he does (without specifically saying so you'll notice) is out of order IMO. As he said, he can talk to them through the window, why does he need to step out of the car? He was well within his rights to not comply.

..yeah, but if he wasn't obliged to then he could have spoken to them with much less agression and abuse and you can't say, that part wasn't ok Jack because that's what escalated the whole thing...and he did break the law with his handbrake turns in the first place, so they did have a right to stop him and talk to him....

[Kizzy]

But jack you can't have it both ways you posted this with laughing faces and he is perpetuating a stereotype, therefore you can't be cross when others do...
I do understand where you are coming from though, chav is the new yob that was the new hooligan...there will always be a derogatory label for nonconformists.
However something tells me this guy is not so lillywhite, call me columbo but I have a hunch ;)

[Vicky.]

Bit of a dick. But I can understand his frustration tbh.

[Jack_]

But jack you can't have it both ways you posted this with laughing faces and he is perpetuating a stereotype, therefore you can't be cross when others do...
I do understand where you are coming from though, chav is the new yob that was the new hooligan...there will always be a derogatory label for nonconformists.
However something tells me this guy is not so lillywhite, call me columbo but I have a hunch ;)

I don't agree that he's perpetuating a stereotype at all, it's people's preconceptions of what a 'chav' supposedly is that has led to people giving him this label, I mean we've not even seen his face or what he's wearing...which is supposed to make up what a 'chav' is. So people are going off the things he's said...does his strong Mancunian accent make him a 'chav'? Or as I said earlier, does insulting people make you a 'chav'? It seems to change every day.

Also I never posted a laughing smiley with the video, it was the worship smiley which was actually towards the points he was making, I never agreed with his use of the insults and felt he let himself down there, but that doesn't detract from the points he is making.

[Ammi]

I don't agree that he's perpetuating a stereotype at all, it's people's preconceptions of what a 'chav' supposedly is that has led to people giving him this label, I mean we've not even seen his face or what he's wearing...which is supposed to make up what a 'chav' is. So people are going off the things he's said...does his strong Mancunian accent make him a 'chav'? Or as I said earlier, does insulting people make you a 'chav'? It seems to change every day.

Also I never posted a laughing smiley with the video, it was the worship smiley which was actually towards the points he was making, I never agreed with his use of the insults and felt he let himself down there, but that doesn't detract from the points he is making.

..yes, it does Jack..it completely detracts from any points he tried to make because he did break the law in that they were questioning him about handbrake turns, and if he had lost control of that car and hit someone..and hurt them..would you still think his attitude was valid...?..it could have been valid Jack, if he had done it right and spoken to them properly but he didn't and his attitude/insults etc were the whole thing...that's why they called for back up...but everytime they did anything, he just continued to insult them....

[Me. I Am Salman]

Don't see why he doesn't just co-operate

[Brother Leon]

****ing Pigs and their Bacon Breathe smh.

[GiRTh]

I'm surprised by the bias in this thread. Yes the guy acts like a tw*t but the police are supposedly trained to 'deal' with the public. In whatever form that takes.

There was no kind of threatening behavior from the man. There was certainly no sign of any kind of weapon so the police had absolutely no right to ask him to leave his car or call for back up. They were right to drive off when they did cus they knew there was no crime being committed and they no doubt saw he was filming. If they had done anything other than drive away they would have looked heavy handed.

He was within his right with his actions but he could have been a bit more polite. I'd have liked to have seen what would have happened if he wasn't filming tbh.

[InOne]

His accent was really annoying. Stopped watching at the bacon breath bit as it just seemed to be going on and on. Saying that though police can be proper twats, they just have an air of smugness about them that I hate.

Here's a similar sort of video:

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[Withano]

Hes a gobby ****e with no respect. He wasn't harassed or alarmed, we know this by the way he giggles to himself when the police can't hear.

I hope if a man breaks into his house, he'd remind the police that they do not have a permit.

Such a dick

[Josy]

The guys a complete tosser, had to start with the insults too as soon as he saw he had an audience, Then instead of just driving off he's goes on and on..Twat.

[Brother Leon]

This is how you handle the situation tbh. Also an actual legit case of Police harassment

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"Barnet is a Nice area with lots of Burglaries so we are stopping you"

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"Barnet being a bad area and you having a nice car means we stopped you.."

wait..what:joker:

"Im in heated seats, I didnt pay for this car to stand by it" Epic :joker:

[Ammi]

..I only watched the first one BL..I'll watch the second one later..but their whole attitude was different..they questioned the police but weren't insulting or offensive..and yes, they were right to question the police, it was completely legitimate as they hadn't done anything..and all through it they were respectful in making their points...for me, that was completely different from the guy in the OP vid, because he actually excalated the situation by his attitude and abusive stance....

[Kizzy]

I don't agree that he's perpetuating a stereotype at all, it's people's preconceptions of what a 'chav' supposedly is that has led to people giving him this label, I mean we've not even seen his face or what he's wearing...which is supposed to make up what a 'chav' is. So people are going off the things he's said...does his strong Mancunian accent make him a 'chav'? Or as I said earlier, does insulting people make you a 'chav'? It seems to change every day.

Also I never posted a laughing smiley with the video, it was the worship smiley which was actually towards the points he was making, I never agreed with his use of the insults and felt he let himself down there, but that doesn't detract from the points he is making.

I was referring to him perpetuating a stereotype due to his own misconceptions of the police.
I have not suggested this man is a 'chav'.
The insults do detract from the point he is making jack, they make a huge difference as it changes the whole connotation of the conversation.

[Redway]

That video was actually painful to watch..the police have more than enough to deal this without vile twats like these.

[Roy Mars III]

Don't get me wrong there are a lot of asshole police out there, but the guy in the video in nothing but an annoying cock. He had a legitimate grievance against them, but ruined it when he opened his mouth.

[Ryan57]

Some funny moments. 'You're a punk and your breath smells of bacon'.

However, the chav is a total tw@t.

Has anyone noticed this new VHS mode on Youtube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWlH_tvexsM&feature=player_detailpage&vhs=1

Recommend watching that HD video with it enabled. Shows it off better than the chav abusing a cop video. Brings back the memories.

[GypsyGoth]

They should have shot him and smashed his camera.

[Withano]

They should have shot him and smashed his camera.

Marry me?

[GypsyGoth]

:laugh: :love:

[Z]

They should have shot him and smashed his camera.

Omg I'm crying HAHA