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lostalex
16-04-2013, 09:44 PM
whoever did this attack murdered that little boy. justice for him and his family is all that matters.

I feel stupid now for arguing over anything else.

Z
16-04-2013, 09:45 PM
It's just as heartbreaking for their little girl to have lost a leg at such a young age, her whole life has been changed forever... how awful :(!

Brother Leon
16-04-2013, 09:46 PM
Yu do realize you sound like one of those people that says i Don't mind GAY people as long as they don't ACT gay. I don't like gay people that act TOO GAY or too flamboyant . or I don't hate black People, I just don't like black people that act GHETTO. I don't hate BLACK people, i just don't like N-Words. That's basically your logic. You are so transparent.


Nothing alike...whatsoever.

Stop now.

lostalex
16-04-2013, 09:47 PM
Nothing alike...whatsoever.

Stop now.

stop now.

Brother Leon
16-04-2013, 09:48 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130416115722-martin-richard-peace-sign-c1-main.jpg

lostalex
16-04-2013, 09:51 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130416115722-martin-richard-peace-sign-c1-main.jpg

i concur.

GypsyGoth
16-04-2013, 10:08 PM
Aww :(

Kazanne
16-04-2013, 10:12 PM
This is heartbreaking.

Beautiful boy,so very very sad.

Ammi
17-04-2013, 06:37 AM
'Nails In Bombs'

The FBI has said it will go to the "ends of the Earth" to find those who used pressure cooker bombs to kill three and injure more than 170 people at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

The pressure cooker bombs were hidden in duffel bags packed with nails, shards of metal and ball bearings and placed on the ground, around 100m apart along the finishing stretch of the Boston Marathon route, a source close to the investigation has disclosed.

They said that law enforcement officials had some of the bomb components but did not yet know what had been used to set off the explosives.

A 2010 Department of Homeland Security statement warns that terrorists could use pressure cookers to make bombs, saying that at least one of the three devices used in the May 2010 Times Square attack comprised a pressure cooker.

The second of the three victims killed in the attack has been named as 29-year-old restaurant manager Krystle Campbell, of Medford, who had been in Boston to take a picture of her boyfriend crossing the finish line.

Her father, William Campbell, says his daughter was "very caring, very loving person, and was daddy's little girl." He says the loss has devastated the family.

President Barack Obama, who has announced he will visit the city on Thursday, labelled the twin-bombing an "act of terror".

Speaking at a news conference, he said: "What we don't yet know, however, is who carried out this attack or why, whether it was planned and executed by a terrorist organisation, foreign or domestic, or was the act of a malevolent individual."

He added: "What I have indicated to you is what we now know. We know it was bombs that were set off. We know that obviously they did some severe damage. We do not know who did them.

"We don't have a sense of motive yet. So everything else at this point is speculation."

The FBI said it was following a number of leads in the wake of the attacks but special agent Richard DesLauriers declined to say whether anyone was in custody.

Mr DesLauriers said: "We will go to the ends of the Earth to identify the subject or subjects who are responsible for this despicable crime, and we will do everything we can to bring them to justice."

Doctors have revealed the extent of the injuries suffered by those caught in the blasts, including details of a nine-year-old girl who had lost her leg and a 10-year-old boy who suffered deep shrapnel wounds.

Several people have had to have limbs amputated and others are at risk of losing legs following the blasts that ripped through crowds during the city's marathon.

Doctors at Massachusetts General Hospital, one of several hospitals where victims were taken, told reporters eight people were in a "severe" condition.

Alisdair Conn, chief of emergency services, said: "This is something I've never seen in my 25 years here ... this amount of carnage in the civilian population. This is what we expect from war."

A total of 17 people remain in a critical condition.

The first victim killed in the blasts in the heart of the city to be named was eight-year-old Martin Richard , who lived in Boston.

Martin had been waiting with his brother, sister and mother at the finish line for his father, who was running the race.

The bombs went off within seconds of each other and about 100m (330ft) apart on the same street, blowing out windows and sending smoke and debris into the air.

The explosions happened four hours into the race and about two hours after the men's winner had crossed the line, as amateur runners were reaching the finish.

More than 17,000 competitors had completed the race by the time the blasts struck.

Police commissioner Ed Davis said the area around the blast areas is the most complex crime scene in history of the department.

Authorities are now looking for amateur video and photographs that can give clues to who set off the bombs.

Security has been stepped up in Washington and New York, and Boston itself is a city on high alert, with armoured vehicles seen on the streets on Tuesday and random checks of backpacks on public transport.

Earlier, a plane was grounded at the city's Logan Airport over security concerns.

There have been no immediate claims of responsibility for the attack, the most serious in the US since the 9/11 World Trade Centre atrocity. Al Qaeda-linked groups and militant white extremists have attacked targets in America in the past.

The Pakistani Taliban, who have previously threatened attacks in the US, have denied any involvement.

Police are said to have questioned a 20-year-old Saudi Arabian man who is being treated for injuries at a hospital in Boston. Officers have searched his apartment in Revere, according to his flatmate.

More than 25,000 people were registered as taking part in the race, 374 of whom were British. There were also 108 Irish athletes.

The British Foreign Office has said it is not aware of any British nationals who have been injured but that it will continue to monitor the situation.

Police in London have reviewed security plans for Sunday's London Marathon. London's Met Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe said authorities were sharing information with colleagues in America.

Speaking at a news conference today, he said there would be greater security checks and more police officers on the streets for the event.

The London race's chief executive, Nick Bitel, said it was "a very sad day for athletics and for our friends in marathon running".

There will be a 30-second silence ahead of the start to honour the victims of the Boston bombings. Runners will also be encouraged to wear black ribbons

arista
17-04-2013, 07:08 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310200-19555EFA000005DC-577_470x423.jpg
The trigger mechanism of the Boston
marathon bombs were indeed
battery powered - with experts claiming
that they showed a high level of sophistication

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310200-19555FFA000005DC-327_964x641.jpg
Destroyed electronic board parts lie on
the ground around the scene of the
detonation of the first Boston marathon bomb

The 2nd Bomb was in a Street Bin.

Benjamin
17-04-2013, 07:12 AM
The third victim was a university student by the sounds of it. :(

Marc
17-04-2013, 07:21 AM
I really hope that guy from that, now infamous, picture survives and we get to see him fully recovered and with prosthetic legs. He'd almost be the poster boy for the survivors if you know what I mean

Benjamin
17-04-2013, 07:24 AM
http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/krystle.jpg?w=620

The second of three people killed in Monday’s bomb attack at the Boston Marathon was identified on Tuesday as Krystle Campbell, said the mayor of Medford, Massachusetts, the city where the 29-year-old woman had grown up.

William Campbell said his daughter was “very caring, very loving person, and was Daddy’s little girl.”

Campbell told Yahoo News that ”She helped everybody, and I’m just so shocked right now. We’re just devastated. She was a wonderful, wonderful girl. Always willing to lend a hand.”

The restaurant manager had gone with a friend, Karen Rand, to take a picture of the Rand’s boyfriend crossing the finish line. According to Yahoo News, Rand survived, but was undergoing surgery for “serious injuries.” Cheryl Rand Engelhardt, reportedly the friend’s sister-in-law, wrote on Facebook that Rand was carrying Campbell’s ID, and was believed to be Krystle until she came out of surgery.

Rand Engelhardt went on: ”No words can describe how much [Krystle] meant to all of us. She was an incredible woman, always full of energy and hard at work, but never too tired to share her love and a smile with everyone. She was an inspiration to all of us. Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers. We are continuing to remain positive for Karen and ask that you keep her in your prayers as well.”

Medford Mayor Michael McGlynn said he had spoken with Campbell’s father.

“Mr. Campbell said that she certainly was a dream daughter, the daughter that every father dreams to have and friends of hers said that she was eager about life. She had a great sense of humor and freckles and red hair that brought her right to her Irish roots. She was someone who worked hard at everything she did,” McGlynn said. “Another friend said she may have been a little loud at times but it was a loudness you loved.”

Earlier, the family of 8-year-old Martin Richard confirmed their son’s death in the incident.



:(

How awful especially with the ID confusion, one family who thought their daughter was dead find their's survived, but the other family who thought their daughter was alive find that she died.

Benjamin
17-04-2013, 07:37 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310148-1954C5EB000005DC-310_306x423.jpg
Friend, Zhou Danling, now in a coma.

“Shenyang girl… was killed in the Boston bomb blast,” the city’s Liaoshen Evening News wrote on its Twitter-like Weibo account.

The student’s name was widely cited on social media and in some Chinese news outlets but state news agency Xinhua said the victim’s family did not want her name made public.

The 23-year-old, who was studying at Boston University, was reportedly waiting near the marathon’s finishing line with two friends when two explosions threw the event into chaos.

One of those friends, Zhou Danling, was in a “stable condition” on Tuesday night after undergoing two operations at the Boston Medical Center, according to Xinhua. The other friend was unharmed.

The announcement of the student’s death came after a number of concerned friends and classmates had taken to social media to report she was “missing”. One friend posted a telephone number on Twitter with the message: “Help us find her! We can’t find her!”

The student’s father also expressed his fears to a local newspaper on Tuesday. “We haven't been able to contact her. Why didn't she make a call to tell us she's safe?” he told the Shenyang Evening News.

The Chinese victim was raised in the northeastern province of Liaoning and studied at Shenyang’s Northeast Yucai Middle School.

She left that school in 2008, according to the Liaoshen Evening News, and secured a place at the prestigious Beijing Institute of Technology where she studied international trade.

In 2010, she spent 2 months doing work experience at the Bank of China in her home province, according an entry on her LinkedIn page. She also spent four months working in Beijing for Deloitte Consulting between 2011 and 2012.

Late last year, after graduating in Beijing, she moved to the United States to study for a Master’s degree at Boston University.

“New Hampshire is such a great place!” the victim wrote on her Facebook page on October 7 last year.

Towards the start of her time in the United States, the student travelled to the Toah Nipi Retreat, a countryside retreat for Christians around 90 minutes drive from Boston. The retreat’s website describes it as “a place to come away, meet God, and be renewed”.

The student also appears to have been a fan of classical music – her Facebook page contains a link to the site of the Boston Symphony Orchestra.

By Wednesday morning, friends and micro-bloggers had posted over 5,000 messages on the student’s Weibo account, underneath a photograph she posted just hours before being killed in Boston. The photograph, of that day’s breakfast, carried the caption: “My wonderful breakfast.”

“An innocent victim of terrorist attack,” wrote one micro-blogger under the name Zhakutahetu_Dazhi. “There is no evil in paradise. I wish you a good journey!”

“I don't want to believe it is true,” wrote another.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9999510/Boston-Marathon-bombs-third-victim-identified-as-Chinese-student.html


Third victim announced.

Marc
17-04-2013, 07:38 AM
I like what Lee shared on Facebook yesterday about how there are only a few individuals behind this which make up the evil in the world but good outweighs all that evil. All of those people running towards the blast to help people affected.

arista
17-04-2013, 12:39 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310200-19550381000005DC-414_472x572.jpg

A kitchen tool
turned into a bomb.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/16/article-2309545-1950E679000005DC-125_964x577.jpg

GiRTh
17-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Az0V4qiFVuQ

Rush Limbaugh is a ******. No one has admitted responsibility for this but Limbaughs talking about Muslims being protected by the media.

Marc
17-04-2013, 12:51 PM
They just showed a picture on the news of what might have been the device from a photo taken. Looks really obvious as well

arista
17-04-2013, 01:22 PM
Az0V4qiFVuQ

Rush Limbaugh is a ******. No one has admitted responsibility for this but Limbaughs talking about Muslims being protected by the media.


But he is just a Shock Jock Radio - not CBS, for example.

He talks about anything he wants
its USA Radio
Thats the freedom they have

Z
17-04-2013, 01:27 PM
This is so heart breaking. The fact nobody's claimed responsibility for this yet suggests that it's a homegrown terrorist, if it were an international organisation they'd have doubtless claimed it.

GiRTh
17-04-2013, 01:29 PM
But he is just a Shock Jock Radio - not CBS, for example.

He talks about anything he wants
its USA Radio
Thats the freedom they have

Limbaugh has influence. Some say he is one of the most respected conservatives in the country. He's a complete loon but a lot of people listen to him. Also, the point the the host makes - If this was a Christian conservative then Limbaugh would trying play down any link to right wing nuts like himself.

Sticks
17-04-2013, 02:46 PM
What I have read elsewhere is that during the troubles in Northern Ireland a lot of the money for the IRA was raised in Boston by the organisation NORAID.

Was there not a young boy killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington, possibly paid for by those in Boston.

Compared with what we had over this side of the pond, this was small beer

arista
17-04-2013, 02:50 PM
This is so heart breaking. The fact nobody's claimed responsibility for this yet suggests that it's a homegrown terrorist, if it were an international organisation they'd have doubtless claimed it.


Maybe he is wounded in Hospital

Cherie
17-04-2013, 03:06 PM
What I have read elsewhere is that during the troubles in Northern Ireland a lot of the money for the IRA was raised in Boston by the organisation NORAID.

Was there not a young boy killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington, possibly paid for by those in Boston.

Compared with what we had over this side of the pond, this was small beer


Not sure what point you are trying to make?

arista
17-04-2013, 05:54 PM
They have now Arrested a Suspect.


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live

Marc
17-04-2013, 05:58 PM
Suspect identified?

Sticks
17-04-2013, 06:01 PM
They have now Arrested a Suspect.


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live

Link to BBC story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22190353)

arista
17-04-2013, 06:01 PM
Suspect identified?

One network has
not sure which one


"A suspect is set to be brought to court as video reportedly shows a man carrying a black bag where the second blast took place."

http://news.sky.com/story/1079493/boston-marathon-explosions-arrest-made

A Store Camera picked up a man dropping a bag and running off.


Its on CNN Now
its got the USA CNN Live

arista
17-04-2013, 06:16 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310200-1954E0EE000005DC-204_964x578.jpg

arista
17-04-2013, 06:17 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/17/article-2310596-1954D91E000005DC-235_470x423.jpg
This "could" be the man
Or it may not be.


On Ch4 News Live now

Vicky.
17-04-2013, 06:23 PM
4chan had that on a blog post earlier today

Scarlett.
17-04-2013, 06:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/J57yXU2h.jpg

See more pictures that have been analysed http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

Vicky.
17-04-2013, 06:26 PM
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

http://i.imgur.com/l5aJzYF.gif

AnnieK
17-04-2013, 06:27 PM
What I have read elsewhere is that during the troubles in Northern Ireland a lot of the money for the IRA was raised in Boston by the organisation NORAID.

Was there not a young boy killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington, possibly paid for by those in Boston.

Compared with what we had over this side of the pond, this was small beer

There were two young boys killed at Warrington but that has no bearing really on this. This is another innocent life taken by terrorists of whatever sort.

Drew.
17-04-2013, 06:29 PM
that bag looks identical, and the bloke doesn't look like much of a runner to me

http://i.imgur.com/SxEK5lS.jpg

Jake.
17-04-2013, 06:33 PM
Ah, bloody hell

MTVN
17-04-2013, 06:36 PM
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

http://i.imgur.com/l5aJzYF.gif

Hmm there's a couple of other people running away there too mind, could even say it's the smart thing to do to run off from a blast

Vicky.
17-04-2013, 06:37 PM
Hmm there's a couple of other people running away there too mind, could even say it's the smart thing to do to run off from a blast

Yes I know :joker:

I thought the pic arista posted was actually the suspect. was just saying that 4chan were onto him before the FBI it seems:laugh:

arista
17-04-2013, 06:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8VF5oh0.jpg

From Vickys Link

Sticks
17-04-2013, 06:47 PM
Not sure what point you are trying to make?

If what I read elsewhere is true, that NORAID raised funds in Boston to pay for IRA terrorist atrocities over here, could this be Karma catching up with that city? What that person wrote on another forum did make me wonder.

Another point is that here in the UK we have had to suffer worse atrocities, like the Birmingham pub bombings (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/21/newsid_2549000/2549953.stm), Enniskillen (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/8/newsid_2515000/2515113.stm), Warrington (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/20/newsid_2544000/2544121.stm) to name a few. Boston got of lightly compared to what we have suffered in the UK.

Getting back to the first point, some of the funds to carry out these attacks were raised in the US, am not sure if Boston was the main culprit, that other poster seemed to think so. Meanwhile the news of these atrocities went unreported as the owners of the main TV stations blocking such news, while giving air time to those, like Sien Fein /(IRA) saying that Ireland was under forced and illegal occupation by the British Army who were allegedly carrying out random searches of people's homes in the middle of the night. Obviously this obviously still rankles with some today

I am not sure where that other poster lives, but from the tone of what he wrote, it still caused immense resentment towards to US, and Boston in particular.

Meanwhile I am aware that this could be considered a thread hijack, so Nuff said and we return you to your regular programme...

arista
17-04-2013, 07:05 PM
Boston Police has Now Said No Arrest



CNN Live


http://news.sky.com/story/1079493/boston-marathon-bombs-cops-deny-arrest-made

http://news.sky.com/story/1079493/boston-marathon-bombs-possible-suspect

lostalex
18-04-2013, 06:00 AM
If what I read elsewhere is true, that NORAID raised funds in Boston to pay for IRA terrorist atrocities over here, could this be Karma catching up with that city? What that person wrote on another forum did make me wonder.

Another point is that here in the UK we have had to suffer worse atrocities, like the Birmingham pub bombings (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/21/newsid_2549000/2549953.stm), Enniskillen (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/8/newsid_2515000/2515113.stm), Warrington (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/20/newsid_2544000/2544121.stm) to name a few. Boston got of lightly compared to what we have suffered in the UK.

Getting back to the first point, some of the funds to carry out these attacks were raised in the US, am not sure if Boston was the main culprit, that other poster seemed to think so. Meanwhile the news of these atrocities went unreported as the owners of the main TV stations blocking such news, while giving air time to those, like Sien Fein /(IRA) saying that Ireland was under forced and illegal occupation by the British Army who were allegedly carrying out random searches of people's homes in the middle of the night. Obviously this obviously still rankles with some today

I am not sure where that other poster lives, but from the tone of what he wrote, it still caused immense resentment towards to US, and Boston in particular.

Meanwhile I am aware that this could be considered a thread hijack, so Nuff said and we return you to your regular programme...


So you're saying you think it's a British person that did this then? Some anti-Irish Independence nut attacks Boston? But why don't they just attack Ireland then?

I don't think you're right, but it's an interesting theory.

Cherie
18-04-2013, 08:09 AM
Thanks for clarifying Sticks, don't really want to get into this theory too deeply on this thread, but to my mind there are some gaping holes in it.

SharkAttack
18-04-2013, 08:36 AM
My bet is still on the guy with the white hat and the guy next to him in the blue running kit.
And if nothing comes of it, and these are perfectly innocent people being suspected, I still admire the people who are trying to work it out with angles and video shots. Mostly though, we're all working from publicly filmed events while the FBI has a whole lot more, including these. I'd expect they'll find the proper suspects and have them shortly.

arista
18-04-2013, 10:07 AM
My bet is still on the guy with the white hat and the guy next to him in the blue running kit.
And if nothing comes of it, and these are perfectly innocent people being suspected, I still admire the people who are trying to work it out with angles and video shots. Mostly though, we're all working from publicly filmed events while the FBI has a whole lot more, including these. I'd expect they'll find the proper suspects and have them shortly.


Yes
American looking Terrorists

lostalex
18-04-2013, 10:22 AM
Yes
American looking Terrorists

American looking? What do American's look like? I thought you Brits thought Americans looked like Matt Lucas in a cowboy hat. lol

arista
18-04-2013, 10:35 AM
American looking? What do American's look like? I thought you Brits thought Americans looked like Matt Lucas in a cowboy hat. lol


Not muslim

lostalex
18-04-2013, 10:43 AM
Not muslim

well there have been some white "american looking" Americans that have taken up the Jihad, but i agree this doesn't seem associated with "jihad".

Brother Leon
18-04-2013, 11:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8VF5oh0.jpg

From Vickys Link

That was confirmed to be after the explosion.

Nedusa
18-04-2013, 11:25 AM
I hope this man makes himself known to Police/FBI so he can be ruled out of the investigation otherwise a manhunt will ensue for this man.

Looking at this picture I can only speculate as to whether he was involved or not, as I say for his own peace of mind he should come forward asap so he can be eliminated from this investigation (assuming of course he is innocent !!)

BBfanUSA
18-04-2013, 01:16 PM
At least the news channels have opted to not show photos. All I'm seeing this on is the Alex Jones Truther thing and 4Chan

lostalex
18-04-2013, 01:29 PM
I saw a pic of a guy with his legs blown off and a guy holding his artery in his hand to keep him from bleeding to death.

That was intense.

Brother Leon
18-04-2013, 01:38 PM
The great Carlos Arrendendo

arista
18-04-2013, 02:24 PM
I hope this man makes himself known to Police/FBI so he can be ruled out of the investigation otherwise a manhunt will ensue for this man.

Looking at this picture I can only speculate as to whether he was involved or not, as I say for his own peace of mind he should come forward asap so he can be eliminated from this investigation (assuming of course he is innocent !!)


Yes go to the FBI
let them check him fully.


I agree

Sticks
18-04-2013, 03:01 PM
So you're saying you think it's a British person that did this then? Some anti-Irish Independence nut attacks Boston? But why don't they just attack Ireland then?

I don't think you're right, but it's an interesting theory.

I was not saying that, but observing that a poster on another sight popped up in a similar discussion and declared that they had no sympathy whatsoever for the people of Boston because they allegedly funded the IRA and their atrocities over here, through NORAID and reading between the lines the subtext of what the poster was saying was "What goes around comes around".

My guess for what has happened remains an al-Qa'ida inspired home grown group, just like the 7/7 bombers

lostalex
18-04-2013, 03:04 PM
I was not saying that, but observing that a poster on another sight popped up in a similar discussion and declared that they had no sympathy whatsoever for the people of Boston because they allegedly funded the IRA and their atrocities over here, through NORAID and reading between the lines the subtext of what the poster was saying was "What goes around comes around".

My guess for what has happened remains an al-Qa'ida inspired home grown group, just like the 7/7 bombers

then why did you bring it up unless you thought it might be someone that used that as a justification for carrying out the attack? i'm confused.

Brother Leon
18-04-2013, 03:51 PM
then why did you bring it up unless you thought it might be someone that used that as a justification for carrying out the attack? i'm confused.

He's implying the people of Boston deserved that due to **** that happened not involving them in the slightest. Load of **** and ****ed up.

arista
18-04-2013, 04:11 PM
This could be a American who is Angry
at The Presidents Gun Law changes

Jesus.
18-04-2013, 04:16 PM
This could be a American who is Angry
at The Presidents Gun Law changes

There aren't any gun law changes. The senate voted them down yesterday. Despite the fact that 90% of Americans, and nearly 80& of republicans wanted these changes, the cowardly senators are too scared of upsetting the gun lobby, because they'll be primaried out of office in the 2014 mid terms.

Even the majority of NRA members agreed with the presidents proposal, but it's not about gun rights, it's about protecting gun sales for the companies.

Sticks
18-04-2013, 04:56 PM
then why did you bring it up unless you thought it might be someone that used that as a justification for carrying out the attack? i'm confused.

Others are reporting on reactions to this event, this was a reaction I came across. If what that poster said was accurate then there was a sort of Karmic irony about what happened.

arista
18-04-2013, 05:02 PM
There aren't any gun law changes. The senate voted them down yesterday. Despite the fact that 90% of Americans, and nearly 80& of republicans wanted these changes, the cowardly senators are too scared of upsetting the gun lobby, because they'll be primaried out of office in the 2014 mid terms.

Even the majority of NRA members agreed with the presidents proposal, but it's not about gun rights, it's about protecting gun sales for the companies.



Yes but this Confused Angry American
could be looking way ahead?

lostalex
18-04-2013, 05:06 PM
Others are reporting on reactions to this event, this was a reaction I came across. If what that poster said was accurate then there was a sort of Karmic irony about what happened.

wait, are you blaming God? is that what you are saying? that God is punishing Boston now for something to do with the IRA 40 years ago?

Seriously?

You're actually saying that GOD made these attacks happen, killing an 8 year old boy, because of some idiots funding the Irish Independence movement 40 years ago?

If that's what you are saying, then that's ****ing stupid.

Sticks
18-04-2013, 05:15 PM
Actually Karma is not a Jewish, Christian or Muslim concept, it belongs to eastern religions which I do not subscribe to. I was using the term as used in colloquial modern parlance.

A city that allegedly once gave money to a group which carried out atrocities in other cities, it self becomes a victim of a terrorist atrocity.

Jesus.
18-04-2013, 05:18 PM
Yes but this Confused Angry American
could be looking way ahead?

When you say angry, you should have said stupid, because such a stupid minority of people think these gun proposals are actually a bad thing.

lostalex
18-04-2013, 05:21 PM
Actually Karma is not a Jewish, Christian or Muslim concept, it belongs to eastern religions which I do not subscribe to. I was using the term as used in colloquial modern parlance.

A city that allegedly once gave money to a group which carried out atrocities in other cities, it self becomes a victim of a terrorist atrocity.

So karma killed an 8 y/o boy who wasn't even born when the IRA bombings were happening, and a Chinese university student who has no ties to Boston at all were killed, because of Karma?

well then karma is ****ing stupid.

Sticks
18-04-2013, 05:44 PM
So karma killed an 8 y/o boy who wasn't even born when the IRA bombings were happening, and a Chinese university student who has no ties to Boston at all were killed, because of Karma?

well then karma is ****ing stupid.

And yet others still try and give it credence?

With the hat of science on, it has no validity either, things just happen for no reason sometimes, although in this case there was a "reason" i.e the motive of the perpetrator.

Going back to Old Testament times, there was a belief that if something bad happened to you then you must have done something wrong, the book of Job is a refutation of that belief. Moving forward into Jesus' time, this belief persisted, if you did something wrong, you would be visited by calamity. Jesus also refuted this belief which you can read in the first five verses of Luke 13

To be even more precise Karma is intrinsic in Hinduism and so called New Age religions where it is intertwined with the doctrine of reincarnation and the wheel of Samsara.

It seems in modern usage Karma has developed into something more akin to the belief in a cosmic "Just Deserts", something that Woody Allen rubbished in his hit film Crimes and Misdemeanour's

Perhaps it behoves us to actually look to the origins of some popular terms that are utilised in modern parlance to avoid possible misunderstandings.

Vicky.
18-04-2013, 09:31 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/photos

Photos of the two suspects on here.

SharkAttack
18-04-2013, 09:36 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/photos

Photos of the two suspects on here.

Look like kids in their 20s. Very pixellated, hopefully someone can identify them.

Vicky.
18-04-2013, 09:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80DXI932OE&feature=youtu.be

FBI video. Apparently this is on their site too but theirs keeps crashing for me. I guess its getting loads of hits right now.

Brother Leon
18-04-2013, 09:41 PM
M80DXI932OE

http://i.imgur.com/KW43e6A.jpg

BBfanUSA
18-04-2013, 09:42 PM
Huh, Odd I think they got it wrong. Niether look like the bag that's been posted on 4Chan. But stuff can burn like wildfire through the internet so fast I don't anything anymore.

Pressure Bombs should be a bit heavy right? then why isn't the second guy carrying his on both shoulders?

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 12:12 AM
Suspect leaving the scene.

http://i.imgur.com/NFPlOCI.jpg

Could be a misleading photo, but he does look the least fussed.

Z
19-04-2013, 12:15 AM
Wow

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:22 AM
that guy doesn't really have a shock look on his face like everyone else

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:23 AM
cant tell from that photo if hes carrying the bag tho.. if it was a clear photo it would be the best bit of evidence yet

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 12:29 AM
http://politix.topix.com/img/5VVMRJQ0LAUSAHGO-rszw514
One of the most haunting images to come out of the Boston bombings is of a young man in a wheelchair, his legs blown off, being rushed to help by three people, including a man in a cowboy hat.

The young man's name is Jeff Bauman, and he is in a stable condition in hospital.

The cowboy-hat wearing good samaritan is Carlos Arredondo. When the first blast went off Arredondo immediately ran to the site of the blast across the street and vaulted the security fence to get to victims. Video footage shows him among first responders in his distinctive cowboy hat, bending to help the wounded.

Arredondo saw severed limbs, a pool of blood, and a young man in a gray sweatshirt trying to stand. "He had no legs," Arredondo said in a later interview.

A second bomb went off nearby, but Arredondo stayed focused on the young man. "I told him, my name's Carlos, you're going to be OK, help is on the way,'" Arredondo said.

He applied tourniquets which he made by ripping up a sweater. With his friend John Mixon, a Vietnam Veteren, Arredondo put the young man in a wheelchair brought by EMS staff, then started moving as fast as he could while apparently holding shut an artery. "I kept talking to him. I kept saying, 'Stay with me, stay with me,' " Arredondo said. A young woman and police officer joined him pushing the wheelchair close to the ambulances.

The young man was still conscious when he was taken to hospital. "I told him,' You're going to be fine,'" Arredondo says.

Bauman's father told the NY Times that Arredondo had saved his son's life.

Arredondo is known nationally as a peace activist himself after his son, US Marine Corporal Alexander Arredondo, was killed in combat in Iraq in 2004. Arredondo was at the marathon supporting a group running in memory of fallen veterans, including his son.

This is just one of many stories of bravery and compassion that will emerge from the marathon.
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/5605-carlos-arredondo-boston-hero-saved-young-man-who-lost-both-legs

Z
19-04-2013, 12:34 AM
I can't even begin to imagine losing my legs.

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:36 AM
"and a young man in a gray sweatshirt trying to stand. "He had no legs,"

the poor guy had no idea about his legs at the time

Z
19-04-2013, 12:39 AM
The guy's skin is grey in that picture, he must have been in shock :(

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:41 AM
Yeah.. if thats his right hand on his lap it is insanely white/grey

Z
19-04-2013, 12:42 AM
You know, looking at photos like that, it makes you really detest the paparazzi. This man has just lost his legs, his life has been changed forever, a catastrophe has just affected hundreds of innocent people and there's some bloody person with a camera taking pictures of what is likely to be the worst day of your life. I'm a bit disgusted. On the other hand, this photo could go on to become very famous, possibly benefiting the guy who's lost his legs... but he didn't choose to have his photo taken...

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 12:44 AM
http://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-marathon-explosion-norden-legs-lead2.jpg?w=600

Liz Norden, a mom-of-five, got a phone call from one of her sons on April 15, saying that he had been injured in the Boston bombings. She had no idea that both of her sons would end up having one of their legs amputated.

Liz Norden‘s sons had gone to watch a friend run in the Boston Marathon on April 15, and their lives completely changed in an instant.
Two Brothers Each Lose A Leg In Boston Bombings

Liz says that her 31-year-old son called her and said he was in an ambulance on his way to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.

“Ma, I’m hurt real bad,” Liz recounts to the Boston Globe. Her sons, which she didn’t want to name, were standing right next to each other during the blast.

Liz tells the Boston Globe that each of her sons lost a leg, from the knee down.

“I’d never imagined in my wildest dreams this would ever happen,” she said. “I feel sick. I think I could pass out.”

She said that she hadn’t seen her sons yet because the authorities weren’t letting visitors in. Liz said they had both been recently laid off from their jobs as roofers.

Their friend Mike Jefferson, who they went to watch run in the marathon, was at the hospital waiting to see his friends.

“I was a quarter-mile away from the finish line [when the bombings happened],” he said.

It turns out the brothers were standing next to the eight-year-old boy, Martin Richard, who was killed in the blast. Keep coming back to HollywoodLife.com for the latest updated on the bombings.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/16/massachusetts-brothers-lose-leg-boston-bombings/

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:47 AM
You know, looking at photos like that, it makes you really detest the paparazzi. This man has just lost his legs, his life has been changed forever, a catastrophe has just affected hundreds of innocent people and there's some bloody person with a camera taking pictures of what is likely to be the worst day of your life. I'm a bit disgusted. On the other hand, this photo could go on to become very famous, possibly benefiting the guy who's lost his legs... but he didn't choose to have his photo taken...

i think the real benefit from the photos is the hope that at least one of them will give evidence into catching whoever did this

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 12:47 AM
http://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-bombing-innocent-lead-12.jpg?w=600
Salah Barhoun was forced to deny that he was connected with the Boston bombing after photos were released of him carrying a bag near the finish line of the famous marathon on April 15. The 17-year-old used his Facebook account to declare his innocence!
UPDATE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Photos Released In FBI Press Conference

The picture of the 17-year-old Moroccan high school student, Salah Barhoun, was revealed on April 18, three days after the April 15 Boston explosions that killed three and injured at least 183. It was reported that the man in blue was being sought by the FBI. Since then, he has used his Facebook account to deny any wrongdoing.

Salah Barhoun: Suspect No More?

The brother of the track athlete told ABC News that Salah went to the police on April 17 to clear his name. Their mother was “sick and upset” that Salah had been connected to the horrifying attack.

“It made her think he had done something wrong,” Salah’s brother said. “My brother is not the bomber.”

Salah told ABC News, “It’s the worst feeling that I can possibly feel… I’m only 17.”

Salah reportedly wanted to run in the marathon, but when he couldn’t for unknown reasons, he went to watch the race instead.

After realizing his photo was making the rounds in the media, Salah used Facebook to try and clear his name.

“Going to the court right now!! S*** is real. But u will see guys I’m did not do anything.” Hours later, he wrote, “back home! everything is fake but god is with me.”
FBI Will Release Photos Of Individuals They Want To Question

Later today, the FBI will allegedly release images of individuals they hope to question in connection with the bombings.

There were two explosions at 2:50 pm on April 15, near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. About 183 people were injured and three were killed.

Keep coming back to HollywoodLife.com for the latest in the Boston bombings.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/18/salah-barhoun-suspect-boston-marathon-bombing-high-school-student/

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:49 AM
Okay now there's no doubt in my mind those two did it, he doesn't looked fussed at all in the pic (The White capped guy is walking away from the blast on the left.)

Z
19-04-2013, 12:52 AM
i think the real benefit from the photos is the hope that at least one of them will give evidence into catching whoever did this

But they would have done that without the photo too. I think photos like that one just feed our desire to see and know everything, even if it's a bit morbid in this instance. It's nothing new, ever since photography was invented, people have been taking photos of things that perhaps the world didn't need to see. There's no doubt that photos like that one make things more 'real' to the rest of the world... you're not going to forget seeing a photo like that one in a hurry - hearing about a guy who ran over to help another guy is one thing, but to see him holding this man's artery shut is on a whole different emotional level.

It's nothing against this specific photo per se, it's more the paparazzi in general. It's kinda grotesque, but having said that, I'm happily looking at these kinds of images too so I guess that's why they're published. People want to see these things, even if they don't think they want to. That's the media's motto.

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:59 AM
its a strange one.. my instincts in this situation would be to help and the last thing id want to do is start taking photos.. but like you said we're sitting here looking at the photos. I wonder how they feel at the time walking around with people in need of help whilst they are taking pictures. I appreciate the photos in some ways because its given me an idea of what happened and its made me think a lot about things.. you cant really win if your one of the people that took photos at the time.

Drew.
19-04-2013, 01:02 AM
i used the word pictures and photos a lot just then.

Z
19-04-2013, 01:04 AM
:laugh: I hate when I think I've used a word too much, like if I use the word 'but' more than once in a sentence, makes me feel dumb. Yeah, like at the end of the day, photographers are employed to do this stuff and they've got to earn their living by doing it, but it just seems a bit sick when you take a step back and think about the context. Carnage going on all around them and they're... taking photos of it.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 06:35 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/boston-area-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

crazy as hell

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 06:36 AM
2 suspects firing at cops, and one reportedly threw a bomb. Caught one guy, but the other is on the run

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 06:39 AM
might not be related, but it is a possibility

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 06:44 AM
the person they have in custody seems to be the one of the guys in the marathon surveillance video

arista
19-04-2013, 07:03 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311341-1960B38B000005DC-735_964x578.jpg

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:08 AM
Sunil Tripathi and Mike Mulugeta are the two suspects according to police scanners

Reddit guessed Sunil was one of the suspects six hours or so ago before this. He has been on a missing person site for a week or so

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 07:30 AM
Hard to believe two homemade bombs carried in rucksacks could cause this much carnage...!!!

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 07:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/t7zv3i2.png

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 07:33 AM
https://twitter.com/mikemulugeta/status/323271098051477504

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:34 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/31/article-0-1904450F000005DC-834_634x476.jpg


pretty sure that is both of them

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:37 AM
http://i.imgur.com/t7zv3i2.png

t12tfTJ10bU

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 07:38 AM
I'm just imagining their smiling faces as the executioner pulls the lever to allow the final lethal injection fluid to flow.... !!!!

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 07:39 AM
his dad's a big CEO or something

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:41 AM
They had one of the guys on the run, but I think they lost him

the other is in custody was shot and is almost dead or dead already

not who is what though

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:43 AM
They had one of the guys on the run, but I think they lost him

the other is in custody was shot and is almost dead or dead already

not who is what though

Mike is the one reportedly dead and Sinul is still on the run

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 07:46 AM
I'm just imagining their smiling faces as the executioner pulls the lever to allow the final lethal injection fluid to flow.... !!!!

Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty (thank God)

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:47 AM
Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty (thank God)

The FBI are involved. It will go to a Federal court, if they live long enough to go to court they will get the death penalty, no question (not saying I agree)

Jesus.
19-04-2013, 07:48 AM
I'm just imagining their smiling faces as the executioner pulls the lever to allow the final lethal injection fluid to flow.... !!!!

An eye for an eye turns the whole world blind.

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 07:52 AM
Thank goodness that they were tracked down.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:53 AM
These guys knew they would be caught, death is too easy, let the pricks rot in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 07:53 AM
Thank goodness that they were tracked down.

Sunil is still at large and they have called off tracking him on foot till daylight

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 07:55 AM
Sunil is still at large and they have called down tracking him on foot till daylight

I'd imagine there's no escape for him unless he takes his own life.


Is it known if they were jihadists?

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:01 AM
I'd imagine there's no escape for him unless he takes his own life.


Is it known if they were jihadists?

nothing is really known about their motives besides Sunil was said to be really depressed by his family. They thought he had just run away. He has been missing since March.

I would guess that they are not though judging from all the personal stuff I have seen about them

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 08:05 AM
Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty (thank God)

I don't think the parents of that young boy or the families of the other two young people that were blown to pieces would agree with you. I think you would have trouble convincing all the 30 or more people whose lives have been tragically changed forever due to losing limbs caused by these madmen...!!!

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 08:05 AM
nothing is really known about their motives besides Sunil was said to be really depressed by his family. They thought he had just run away. He has been missing since March.

I would guess that they are not though judging from all the personal stuff I have seen about them

It's strange how if they were it would have made it all seem somewhat more easy to understand.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:06 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5SnySRE.jpg?1

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:20 AM
http://i.imgur.com/81l6txi.png

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 08:21 AM
I just read here http://www.browndailyherald.com/2013/03/19/search-for-missing-undergrad-continues/ that Sunil studied philosophy.

Macie Lightfoot
19-04-2013, 08:23 AM
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

I don't know if it's geoblocked but this is what I'm watching if anyone's interested

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:24 AM
https://www.facebook.com/sunil.tripathi0

billy123
19-04-2013, 08:31 AM
Boston police radio.
http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/boston-radar

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 08:32 AM
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

I don't know if it's geoblocked but this is what I'm watching if anyone's interested

Thanks Troy that works.

https://www.facebook.com/sunil.tripathi0

I just looked up the plot of that book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, it seems to be a regular philosophical story.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:38 AM
I just looked up the plot of that book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, it seems to be a regular philosophical story.

I've read it before but it was a while ago. (I could be wrong here) but what I remember is that it is basically a story about the problems of society and the path humans are going down

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:49 AM
injured officer

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 08:54 AM
It could be hours before they find the other guy.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 08:55 AM
t12tfTJ10bU


the guy from this video. same guy??

http://i.imgur.com/Bht8aCn.jpg

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 08:58 AM
I hope it's not the same guy and just a coincidence that they look similar. If it is the same guy it would mean there is a whole cult of these crazies.

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 09:01 AM
It's a different guy, "Uncle David" in the video seems to be of a smaller build.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 09:08 AM
https://twitter.com/patmuldowney/status/325167660293844992

patrick muldowney ‏@patmuldowney

They're literally loading Watertown residents onto busses and moving them out of the neighborhood. This is unprecedented to my knowledge.

SharkAttack
19-04-2013, 09:08 AM
Don't expect "suspect #2" to go without death in mind. Stopped listening to scanners a half hour ago, you guys are up. :)

Doubt they'll take him in alive, but it would be nice to get some answers. Zzz... http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/sharkattack_torrential/smilies/tobed-1.gif

SharkAttack
19-04-2013, 09:10 AM
https://twitter.com/patmuldowney/status/325167660293844992

patrick muldowney ‏@patmuldowney

They're literally loading Watertown residents onto busses and moving them out of the neighborhood. This is unprecedented to my knowledge.

This is so they can check out the bombs in the area, just safe precautions for civilians; they ordered the bus(or buses) an hour ago.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 09:17 AM
http://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_835w/Boston/2011-2020/2013/04/19/BostonGlobe.com/Metro/Images/988843e4d1d84660a7adeaecc0294c7c-988843e4d1d84660a7adeaecc0294c7c-02.jpg

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 09:20 AM
The MIT thing and this are linked - confirmed

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 09:46 AM
Woah, the two cases are linked?

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 09:47 AM
yes.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-mit-shooting-explosion-suspect-watertown-064355149.html

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 09:51 AM
Well, and this may sound horrid, but at least it confirms that these two were the bombers. I just hope they get this other guy alive to give answers as to why they did it.

arista
19-04-2013, 09:57 AM
Well, and this may sound horrid, but at least it confirms that these two were the bombers. I just hope they get this other guy alive to give answers as to why they did it.



Yes or will the other one want to be Killed?

Benjamin
19-04-2013, 10:05 AM
Well I hope he isn't. It would be nice to get some answers about the bombings, not much for the people and families effected, but at least some form of closure.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8onVyOm.jpg

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 10:27 AM
"white male trying to hitch a ride near beacon road. black hair, black jacket, some sort of bag"

:joker:

arista
19-04-2013, 10:35 AM
Yes Roy the Lady posted on twitter
as the Swat get ready to Kill

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:47 AM
Sunil Tripathi and Mike Mulugeta are the two suspects according to police scanners

Reddit guessed Sunil was one of the suspects six hours or so ago before this. He has been on a missing person site for a week or so

apparently not these two guys, lol oops.

Nigel delete last three pages of thread

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:47 AM
The Associated Press ‏@AP 2m

BREAKING: AP: Surviving Boston bomb suspect identified as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, Mass. -SS
Expand
The Associated Press The Associated Press ‏@AP 8m

BREAKING: AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year. -SS

MTVN
19-04-2013, 10:49 AM
Good work Roy feeding us all rubbish for the last 4 hours

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:50 AM
Sunil's family is about to get tons of money from suing all the news sites for using his name as the bomber the whole night

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:51 AM
Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik 3m
Boston suspect are brothers. (NBC)

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:52 AM
NBC won this whole thing, they were saying it wasn't those two guys for the past three hours while everyone was ignoring them

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 10:52 AM
Kevin In-N-Out Brenan will catch them. Don't worry.

arista
19-04-2013, 10:53 AM
The suspects are believed to have moved to the US a year ago from a Russian region near Chechnya, according to AP news agency.

arista
19-04-2013, 10:55 AM
Putin is behind this, I swear to god


No Putin is against Chech.



http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/4/19/233254/default/v2/bimy1gtcuaak7f4.jpg-large-1-522x293.jpg
The marathon bombing suspect who is on the
run and being hunted by police


http://news.sky.com/story/1080236/boston-marathon-bombings-one-suspect-dead

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:57 AM
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Jahar Tsarnaev

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 10:57 AM
The Associated Press ‏@AP 2m

BREAKING: AP: Surviving Boston bomb suspect identified as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, Mass. -SS
Expand
The Associated Press The Associated Press ‏@AP 8m

BREAKING: AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year. -SS

If these two suspects are indeed from Chechnya then you would have to wonder why they would think bombing innocent americans could help their cause of Chechnyan independence from Russia...!!!!

arista
19-04-2013, 11:04 AM
If these two suspects are indeed from Chechnya then you would have to wonder why they would think bombing innocent americans could help their cause of Chechnyan independence from Russia...!!!!


No America does like the Terrorism
Chech., Groups have done on Russia,

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 11:15 AM
The Associated Press ‏@AP 2m

BREAKING: AP: Surviving Boston bomb suspect identified as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, Mass. -SS
Expand
The Associated Press The Associated Press ‏@AP 8m

BREAKING: AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year. -SS

If these two suspects are indeed from Chechnya then you would have to wonder what they thought they could possibly achieve by killing innocent Americans, how that is going to help further their cause of Chechnyan independence from Russia....???

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 11:15 AM
No Putin is against Chech.


set up by Putin so that the United States goes to war with Chechenia

MTVN
19-04-2013, 11:19 AM
http://vk.com/id160300242

Some social network page for this guy, says his world view is Islam and that his priorities are career and money

letmein
19-04-2013, 11:31 AM
If these two suspects are indeed from Chechnya then you would have to wonder why they would think bombing innocent americans could help their cause of Chechnyan independence from Russia...!!!!


90 countries were in attendance.

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 11:42 AM
Youtube.com/user/muazseyfullah
--

Oh dear.

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 11:43 AM
I'm a bit confused if I read this story straight, apparently these college aged kids are the perps. One suspect dead. They had weapons and pipe bombs, etc. the video of these two at the marathon were carrying a grey and black book bag respectively. Yet the bag placed next to the mailbox is white and beige.

Furthermore it is being said they are from Chechnya or possibly Turkey. Turkey = Ally .....hmm, reminds me of all those Saudi's on 911. What beefs do Chechnya have against us? Don't they have enough issues with Russia? These kids ("terrorists") were walking around oblivious there would be cameras at the marathon yet ave been living in the area for a couple years.

That doesn't sound like well trained terrorists more like home grown wannabe terrorists who managed without blowing themselves up to make these homemade bombs and sadly got "lucky" in their deployment of these devices.

Maybe the Chechnyan story is a cover story to take the pressure off the other guy so he will break his cover thinking the authorities are looking for someone else...!!!!

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 11:47 AM
Youtube.com/user/muazseyfullah
--

Oh dear.

?

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 11:50 AM
?

His youtube channel. He even has a August just for extremism vids..

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 11:56 AM
Apparently the deceased terrorist had left videos of himself explaining how religious he was, he said he had given up smoking and drinking........looks like now he has given up breathing as well !!!!!

Livia
19-04-2013, 11:58 AM
Apparently the deceased terrorist had left videos of himself explaining how religious he was, he said he had given up smoking and drinking........looks like now he has given up breathing as well !!!!!

LOL...

Doctors described his condition as "satisfactory".

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 11:58 AM
Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 16m

Email of Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- the bother who died in shootout -- was THE_PROFESSOR@REAL-HIPHOP.COM, according to records

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 12:10 PM
I'm hearing he is on the run now heavily armed with explosives strapped to him, not sure how far he can get but I have to say if this attack was planned and bearing in mind it was not a suicide attack then one would have thought thay would have plans in place to leave the Boston area perhaps with help from others.............either way not someone you would want to run up against...!!!

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:12 PM
Has to be either Islamic Terrorists, KGB or Russian Sleeper Cell Members, or the Russian Mob.

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 12:16 PM
They have warned all of Boston stay indoors as they dunno where he is. Jesus Christ. Some GTA remove Stars cheat code inserted.

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:18 PM
I have a friend from High School going to Tufts Uni in Boston, Classes been cancelled. Told her to be safe.

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 12:19 PM
I hear now the whole of Boston is now under lockdown, all transport hubs,stations are closed, all businesses and shops are closed.

The only place allowed to be open is Dunkin Donuts.......!!!!!

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 12:20 PM
I hear now the whole of Boston is now under lockdown, all transport hubs,stations are closed, all businesses and shops are closed.

The only place allowed to be open is Dunkin Donuts.......!!!!!

Cops need to eat

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:21 PM
LOL, Badump dump chish

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:39 PM
I think CNN has found out that the police has found the other guy

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 12:40 PM
NBC's Pete Williams: "Apparently there is a third person, a relative, that they are worried about."

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 12:41 PM
its going down right now, house surrounded

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 12:50 PM
News channels have switched to delayed footage. Yeah **** is going down.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 12:52 PM
don't want the guy to know their movements

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 12:53 PM
Do you think he may have hostages ?? , if so then given he is heavily armed and has explosives I imagine it will be a long siege....!!!!!

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 12:54 PM
don't want the guy to know their movements

They should turn the power off in the house in any event...!!!!

Drew.
19-04-2013, 12:55 PM
His youtube channel. He even has a August just for extremism vids..

"terrorists" is on his playlists

arista
19-04-2013, 12:56 PM
set up by Putin so that the United States goes to war with Chechenia



No Way

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 12:56 PM
That could be a possibility Nedusa

I don't think they should turn the power off. I think it'll flush him out but he'll take anyone else with him.

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 01:01 PM
That could be a possibility Nedusa

I don't think they should turn the power off. I think it'll flush him out but he'll take anyone else with him.

good point........I guess its a waiting game at present, bring in the "Negotiator"...!!!!

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 01:01 PM
#Watertown: Officer on scanner: "Suspect is posting online: 'I will kill all of you. You killed my brother'"'

arista
19-04-2013, 01:03 PM
They should turn the power off in the house in any event...!!!!



Yes and Fire Loads
of Smoke bangers in


Get this Done

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 01:05 PM
Yes and Fire Loads
of Smoke bangers in


Get this Done

No, He could of strapped himself to a bomb

arista
19-04-2013, 01:06 PM
No, He could of strapped himself to a bomb

Send in Robot camera units.

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 01:09 PM
Send in Robot camera units.

how far would they get before being destroyed...???

arista
19-04-2013, 01:11 PM
how far would they get before being destroyed...???

They send it more
all vision gives the shooters a better idea .


He think they will kill him

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 01:14 PM
#Watertown: Officer on scanner: "Suspect is posting online: 'I will kill all of you. You killed my brother'"'

fake, i guess

whoever made that twitter account is going to be in some deep ****. cops actually thought it was him at first

arista
19-04-2013, 01:17 PM
Its a Ghost Town
until they Kill Him


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311443-1962F8D0000005DC-928_964x338.jpg

arista
19-04-2013, 01:23 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311597-19630BA9000005DC-739_964x697.jpg
They lost a Man

They want him dead

arista
19-04-2013, 01:24 PM
They are Jihads

From data FoxNewsHD have


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 01:37 PM
The police in Boston are now closing down their Police scanner stations as they fear the suspect may be listening in and gaining some advantage, looks like the suspect is not trapped in a house, otherwise lockdown would have been lifted.

No they still are unable to locate this guy. I suspect he must be receiving help from other or have planned his moves very carefully although I'm not sure why a terrorist would need to hold up a seven 11.

Many things about this story are odd, the age and back story of these suspects, are they sleeper terrorists if so are there others, is this current situation a pre-cursor to more larger preplanned attacks, is it a smokescreen or a diversionary tactic to throw the authorities off the "real" event ?

Just the sheer number or Police (over 9,000),State Police, Fed Police, FBI and special Forces to capture 1 guy is this overkill or is there more to this story than the authorities will disclose....

Its a bit strange and more than a bit worrying...!!!!

Drew.
19-04-2013, 01:39 PM
https://twitter.com/Dzhokhar_

he's a Man U fan and doesn't like Liverpool.

Brother Leon lost

someones basically just changed their name and photo to him.. thats definitely not him

Scarlett.
19-04-2013, 01:41 PM
someones basically just changed their name and photo to him.. thats definitely not him

Yeah, if you check replies to earlier posts, it appears that the profile is "Footytube"

arista
19-04-2013, 01:43 PM
The police in Boston are now closing down their Police scanner stations as they fear the suspect may be listening in and gaining some advantage, looks like the suspect is not trapped in a house, otherwise lockdown would have been lifted.

No they still are unable to locate this guy. I suspect he must be receiving help from other or have planned his moves very carefully although I'm not sure why a terrorist would need to hold up a seven 11.

Many things about this story are odd, the age and back story of these suspects, are they sleeper terrorists if so are there others, is this current situation a pre-cursor to more larger preplanned attacks, is it a smokescreen or a diversionary tactic to throw the authorities off the "real" event ?

Just the sheer number or Police (over 9,000),State Police, Fed Police, FBI and special Forces to capture 1 guy is this overkill or is there more to this story than the authorities will disclose....

Its a bit strange and more than a bit worrying...!!!!



They were found trying to Car Jack in the University grounds
so after the bombs I do not think they had a Plan.
The older Dead one was the Leader
so this 19 year old has nothing to live for

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 01:43 PM
someones basically just changed their name and photo to him.. thats definitely not him

yea, I know

hence the deletion of my post before you had to go and quote it

arista
19-04-2013, 01:52 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/4/19/233284/default/v1/tsarnaev-wanted-poster-1-252x337.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311443-1962F89B000005DC-947_964x672.jpg
They are ready to Kill

Scarlett.
19-04-2013, 02:01 PM
It appears the suspect might not be in the house after all, BBC says Connteticut have put out an alert

"Police in the neighbouring state of Connecticut have put out a alert for a vehicle that could "possibly be occupied by a wanted suspect"."

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 02:04 PM
The car has been posted along with a Mass. License Plate on CNN.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:04 PM
they think there are three suspects.

One is dead, one in Boston, one took a train to Conn.

Nedusa
19-04-2013, 02:14 PM
Are you referring to the blonde haired girlfriend of one of the other two suspects...??

arista
19-04-2013, 02:27 PM
On RT News
Live in Moscow
they are saying that those brothers are against Russia and America.

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:28 PM
don't know. just read they are looking at a 3rd suspect

arista
19-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Maybe the one who took the Train
may get away.

As the other Brother will be killed once they find him

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:31 PM
Father of Dzhokhar says "hell will break loose" if his son is killed.

Scarlett.
19-04-2013, 02:35 PM
Father of Dzhokhar says "hell will break loose" if his son is killed.

Someone should inform him that his son is a killer

arista
19-04-2013, 02:41 PM
Father of Dzhokhar says "hell will break loose" if his son is killed.


His Son will be Killed
he wants to take officers with him
Bombs

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:51 PM
NBC's Richard Engel: "Counterterrorism officials say that a group-dynamic has emerged." (via @DylanByers)

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:53 PM
the police have surrounded a 60-70 year old guy who looks like he has some sort of device

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 02:57 PM
John Kerry press conference:

son and grandfather planned bombing with help of others

arista
19-04-2013, 03:13 PM
John Kerry press conference:

son and grandfather planned bombing with help of others



Evil Grandad
is he in America?

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 03:21 PM
Evil Grandad
is he in America?

think so.

the police have a old man wearing some sort of device surrounded. They are trying to remove using a robot. It might be him

arista
19-04-2013, 03:21 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02541/Dzokhar-Tsarnaev-w_2541188c.jpg
a Top wrestler

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02541/Dzokhar-Tsarnaev-g_2541222c.jpg


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02540/boston-4-way-2_2540993d.jpg

Scarlett.
19-04-2013, 03:26 PM
Is there any news sources about this old man with a device?

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 03:31 PM
Not that I heard of,

MSNBC is showing their Uncle,

He's ashamed and embarassed, claims that his nephew should turn himself in and ask for forgiveness. Also the uncle says that they have brought shame to the family and ethinicity.

Sticks
19-04-2013, 03:39 PM
As I suspected al-Qa'ida inspired cell

MTVN
19-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Least his Uncle is being sensible, his dad is insisting that his sons being framed because he's a Muslim

Jake.
19-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Least his Uncle is being sensible, his dad is insisting that his sons being framed because he's a Muslim

:bored:

arista
19-04-2013, 03:44 PM
As I suspected al-Qa'ida inspired cell


Yes Prof. Sticks

Bang On Right

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 03:46 PM
Least his Uncle is being sensible, his dad is insisting that his sons being framed because he's a Muslim

Reporters: What lead your nephews to doing this?

Uncle: Them being losers.

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 04:02 PM
By the way Uncle Ruslan is a badass

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 04:12 PM
so everyone can see the GOAT

zyo2qrEQ7y0&feature=player_embedded

Marc
19-04-2013, 04:13 PM
Kyrgyzstan.. random

Drew.
19-04-2013, 04:22 PM
the 19 year olds twitter

https://twitter.com/J_tsar

arista
19-04-2013, 04:22 PM
so everyone can see the GOAT

zyo2qrEQ7y0&feature=player_embedded


Yes the Uncle
kept away from them
he must have picked up bad vibes

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 04:29 PM
the 19 year olds twitter

https://twitter.com/J_tsar

https://twitter.com/J_tsar/status/324268440082841600

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 04:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rrcy1Ge.png

Drew.
19-04-2013, 04:34 PM
hes been using his twitter since the bombings

arista
19-04-2013, 04:39 PM
hes been using his twitter since the bombings


Yes he Told the Police he will kill more
which is why when they find him
the Swat will kill Him.




He is former mates said he was a Angel
just goes to show someone can change fast


The bombs they made for a few 100 dollars.

arista
19-04-2013, 04:50 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311443-1963CA8C000005DC-776_964x340.jpg

Ninastar
19-04-2013, 05:52 PM
The one on the right is incredibly good looking... I always imagine terrorists to be hairy, dirty and scary looking. This is a bit of a wake up call.

Still, don't care if dead or alive, I hope they find him.

bbfan1991
19-04-2013, 05:54 PM
OMG at the latest developments. I am glad that the evil suspects were named and that one has been shot dead by the police.

I hope that the other one on the run soon is found by them.

arista
19-04-2013, 05:56 PM
OMG at the latest developments. I am glad that the evil suspects were named and that one has been shot dead by the police.

I hope that the other one on the run soon is found by them.


But that 19year old wants that,
then he can click the switch and Kill
10 or 20 Armed Officers at the same time of his Death


CNN Live
The Aunt (in Canada)

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 06:27 PM
Is that really his twitter? No real signs at all he was going to do anything

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 06:37 PM
the 19 year olds twitter

https://twitter.com/J_tsar

His tweets are so normal. Would not of expected. His whip game too>>

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 06:58 PM
The US Gov't probably wants him alive.

So they can get some answers and the conspiracy theorists can ****.

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 07:00 PM
Just saw the pic of the older bro dead. That hole in his chest...wow.

Brother Leon
19-04-2013, 07:25 PM
"Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin to say but nothin comes out when they move their lips; just a bunch of gibberish
3:29am - 17 Apr 13"

InB4EminemBlamed

arista
19-04-2013, 08:48 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02541/spalsh-boston-4_2541637d.jpg


Will they Catch him?

Or will the punk 19 year old Kill more?

King Gizzard
19-04-2013, 09:01 PM
Just saw the pic of the older bro dead. That hole in his chest...wow.
The person had a cut in his side in that pic I thought

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 09:03 PM
Is that really his twitter? No real signs at all he was going to do anything

he mentions his last name in one of the tweets

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 09:20 PM
Unless relatives want to talk to the press please leave them alone

Also the MIT campus officer that died had a brother who's a mechanic for the NASCAR racing team Hendrick Motorsports (In NASCAR they're the Manchester United of Stock Car Racing. All 4 drivers are very successful racers.). The 4 racing teams in NASCAR's top series will be paying respect to Boston and the victims with a special decal.

GypsyGoth
19-04-2013, 09:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/t7zv3i2.png

I just spent the last few hour beating up Sunny trying to extract a confession :bored:

Drew.
19-04-2013, 10:01 PM
this is odd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIPvdYVCEAANWwo.jpg:large

Josy
19-04-2013, 10:04 PM
Where is that from Drew?

Roy Mars III
19-04-2013, 10:05 PM
fake.

Drew.
19-04-2013, 10:06 PM
Where is that from Drew?

the always reliable twitter

Ramsay
19-04-2013, 10:07 PM
4Chan Josy

edit: oh right twitter lol

BBfanUSA
19-04-2013, 10:08 PM
Troll, Just spells it.

All that would happen is a civil war within the US if the Gov't did that.

Josy
19-04-2013, 10:09 PM
Oh right