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arista
04-05-2013, 07:40 AM
Israeli planes bomb suspected chemical weapons site in Syria

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319311/BREAKING-NEWS-Israeli-planes-bomb-suspected-chemical-weapons-site-Syria.html#ixzz2SJ7OfBbC



"Israel launched an airstrike into Syria,
apparently targeting a suspected weapons site,
U.S. officials said Friday night.
The strike occurred overnight Thursday into Friday,
the officials told The Associated Press.
It did not appear that a chemical weapons site
was targeted, they said, and one official said
the strike appeared to have hit a warehouse."

lostalex
04-05-2013, 07:51 AM
Israel finally pulling it's weight in the region? sounds good to me.

billy123
04-05-2013, 07:58 AM
Israel finally pulling it's weight in the region? sounds good to me.I wonder which sponsor told them to :whistle:

Nedusa
04-05-2013, 08:30 AM
How dare Syria acquire these weapons they have no business amassing these weapons of mass destruction ...!!!!

There's only one country in that region that can hold vast arsenals of weapons of mass destruction......

Nedusa
04-05-2013, 08:45 AM
Israel will keep up these unprovoked attacks trying to get a response from Syria, at which point they'll play the victim card as always and scream for the "international community" to step in and save them. After all, why should Israel pay with cash and blood to do the job, when Nato/US forces will be made to do it for them!

The Highly trained and most moral force in the world, the IDF, only excels in the face of zero opposition and no return fire, so it makes sense for the cowards to stay safe at home, taking pot shots at Palestinian farmers and children, while the rest of us get to go and bomb, then invade, their neighbours for them.
The constant overflights of Lebanon by Israeli warplanes are a ridiculous provocation on an almost weekly basis, yet you can be sure that if the Lebanese forces actually shot one of those aircraft down, Israel would again scream that they are the good guys and in the right, even though international law says otherwise.

Clearly this is the latest attempt by Israel to widen the conflict in Syria and drag Iran into the mix. Clearly this is their real target and they are desparate to create the circumstances for air strikes on Iran.

This whole situation is poised to get much worse very quickly as the Russians and Chinese will not sit idly by and watch the western powers redraw the political/ military landscape. They will probably start selling/ supplying the S300 & S400 Anti Aircraft systems which would make it very dangerous for NATO to enforce a no fly zone.

A worrying situation for all....!!!!

Shaun
04-05-2013, 10:05 AM
Israeli foreign policy almost makes you forgive Ahmedinejad's cartographical comments about them, really.

Novo
05-05-2013, 12:20 AM
NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 12m
BREAKING VIDEO: Purports to show aftermath of Damascus explosions; #Syria says #Israel is behind it

f_j8ID-m1pU

Novo
05-05-2013, 12:23 AM
Abdulrahman Takriti ‏@3bed_takriti 54m
The biggest explosion Damascus ever witnessed has just happened behind Qasioun .. This is #Damascus at 1 am !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJdU8ShCcAA5mP5.jpg:large

Shaun
05-05-2013, 12:28 AM
welp, here comes WW3.

Novo
05-05-2013, 12:32 AM
think we best ask Zee to bring Most Loved forward a few weeks

Omah
05-05-2013, 02:39 AM
In the dark, it's difficult to assess scale, but that "big" explosion liked 'kin enormous to me :eek:

arista
05-05-2013, 05:52 AM
welp, here comes WW3.


My Bunker is ready

Shaun
05-05-2013, 06:47 AM
room for one more? :laugh:

arista
05-05-2013, 04:54 PM
Syria says Israeli air strikes against three targets near Damascus "open the door to all possibilities".


Yes Fire back
tit for tat



On ITV1NewsHD
Syria just said Israel wil Suffer again

Livia
05-05-2013, 06:57 PM
Syria says Israeli air strikes against three targets near Damascus "open the door to all possibilities".


Yes Fire back
tit for tat



On ITV1NewsHD
Syria just said Israel wil Suffer again

This is Syria we're talking about here. I suppose you've read about Syria in the news recently? You know, about the genocide and stuff?

arista
05-05-2013, 07:39 PM
"genocide "


Its more of a civil war.
if it was genocide
America would Invade

lostalex
06-05-2013, 01:30 AM
"genocide "


Its more of a civil war.
if it was genocide
America would Invade

you mean like we did in Rwanda?...hmmmm.

MTVN
06-05-2013, 04:43 PM
Yeah the Syrian war shouldn't be looked as at a case of the good rebels taking on the evil regime, the news today is actually that there is strong evidence of the rebels using chemical weapons: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188. That's to add to the numerous other atrocities that the Rebels have committed

This is another case of reckless aggression on Isreal's part, they seem to think they have the right to just arbitrarily use military force on very flimsy justification whenever they feel like it

arista
06-05-2013, 05:58 PM
Yeah the Syrian war shouldn't be looked as at a case of the good rebels taking on the evil regime, the news today is actually that there is strong evidence of the rebels using chemical weapons: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188. That's to add to the numerous other atrocities that the Rebels have committed

This is another case of reckless aggression on Isreal's part, they seem to think they have the right to just arbitrarily use military force on very flimsy justification whenever they feel like it


And Fecking America
as the President lets them do what they want.

arista
06-05-2013, 06:04 PM
Ch4News Live also says
it was the Rebals that used the nerve gas
United Nations say.

MTVN
06-05-2013, 06:07 PM
That is the story I posted a link to an hour ago, keep up arista

MTVN
06-05-2013, 06:15 PM
Sorry I did not see the 'also'

lostalex
06-05-2013, 10:19 PM
There are no good guys to support in Syria. The rebels are Islamic extremists that would probably want to run the government like the Taliban did in Afghanistan pre-9/11, and the Assad government is a brutal dictatorship.

You've got millions of civilians in between them. What do you do?

It's a lose/lose situation. There's really no one to support in this mess. It's gonna turn out bad for everyone whether Assad stays in power, or if the rebels win and instal an islamist government.

I think Israel blowing up a chemical weapons plant is good though, because at least it will keep people from using those chemical weapons which would be distastrous for civilians because chemical weapons would hurt civilians more than just normal gun/rocket warfare.

Nedusa
18-05-2013, 07:44 AM
Heard on News today Russia has now confirmed sale of advanced Air defence missile systems including S300 and possibly upgrade to lethal S400 in near future.

Either way this a game changer and the Western powers & Israel would not be able to make incursions into Syrian airspace or invoke no fly zones without the very real possibility of losing their aircraft.

Looks like Russia has decided to help keep Assad in power in the short term at least...!!!

Livia
18-05-2013, 10:17 AM
Then surely it's the Russians that are the bad guys? What possible idiotic reason could they have for supporting Syria? I mean, usually, the Russians are usually so level-headed and peace-loving. Aren't they.

arista
18-05-2013, 05:09 PM
Meanwhile

al-Assad: 'We can't negotiate with fragmented rebels'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/18/bashar-assad-exclusive-interview-syria

arista
28-05-2013, 03:11 PM
Now the Fools of France and UK will soon Arm the nameless Rebals


Russia will supply Syria's army with more weapons

Crazy

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/5/27/1369694793199/Steve-Bell-28.5.2013-013.jpg


Russia to give Syria anti-aircraft missiles to deter 'hotheads' – live updates
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/may/28/eu-lifts-arms-embargo-on-syrian-rebels-live-updates

joeysteele
28-05-2013, 03:58 PM
Now the Fools of France and UK will soon Arm the nameless Rebals


Russia will supply Syria's army with more weapons

Crazy

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/5/27/1369694793199/Steve-Bell-28.5.2013-013.jpg


Russia to give Syria anti-aircraft missiles to deter 'hotheads' – live updates
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/may/28/eu-lifts-arms-embargo-on-syrian-rebels-live-updates

I have to agree with you arista,this would be a crazy move,not one I would support.

BBfanUSA
28-05-2013, 04:05 PM
Even though this is bad. I don't see a world war coming out of this mess

arista
28-05-2013, 04:14 PM
Even though this is bad. I don't see a world war coming out of this mess


Sure but those weapons could return
into the wrong people hands
to Attack Americans, French and British, later.


Also this is like going to War with Russia
who will supply arms to the Leader of Syria.

That is Crazy.

arista
28-05-2013, 04:14 PM
I have to agree with you arista,this would be a crazy move,not one I would support.


Yes Like that great Steve Bell Cartoon
it can backfire.

arista
14-06-2013, 06:27 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/13/syria-chemical-weapons-us-confirm

"The US has said it will provide military support
to the Syrian rebels after confirming it believes
there is concrete evidence of nerve gas attacks
by government forces against rebel groups."



So the American will give small guns & rifles to the Rebals
and that includes Al-Qaeda.


They Never Ever Learn.


Its to little to Late.

Nedusa
14-06-2013, 06:42 AM
President Obama has agreed to send small arms to the rebels in Syria, just small arms nothing else so this is really not much of anything. Just more rhetoric which will do nothing on the ground. The west are worried if the situation on the ground doesn't shift their way then any peace conference in the future will be so one sided for Assad that it will be a waste of time.

The West have lost control of this situation and are heavily on the back foot in Syria. With Russia arming Assad and Iran directing Hezbollah the current regime is slowly pushing these rebels out of Syria.

I have to say this situation is probably the scariest conflict I have seen for many years as all the major players are involved and this has the potential to escalate into a major international crises the like the world has not seen for many years...!!!

SharkAttack
14-06-2013, 07:30 AM
Maybe our countries' top people think they can help the rebels take control, and the rebels will be easier to control after? What is Russia's endgame? And Iran's? I don't like any of this.

Nedusa
14-06-2013, 07:39 AM
I heard that in Iran's elections today the Ayatollahs are pinning their support on a hard line contender that would make Ahmadinejad look like a liberal reformer.

arista
14-06-2013, 09:07 AM
I heard that in Iran's elections today the Ayatollahs are pinning their support on a hard line contender that would make Ahmadinejad look like a liberal reformer.


Yes Predicted to be worse ,more hardline.


Ch4News Jon Snow Live from Tehran
tonight again

arista
14-06-2013, 10:14 AM
Maybe our countries' top people think they can help the rebels take control, and the rebels will be easier to control after? What is Russia's endgame? And Iran's? I don't like any of this.


2 Tribes (Sunni Vs Shia)
They support only the Leader of Syria

Not scatty rebal groups like your President does

MTVN
14-06-2013, 11:25 AM
Yesterday the Syrian rebels were reported to have carried out a sectarian massacre, today the US declares it's arming them

Crazy..

Novo
14-06-2013, 11:26 AM
I think President Putin is the real peacekeeper in all of this, the quicker those anti aircraft missles get to Syria the better.

arista
14-06-2013, 11:32 AM
Yesterday the Syrian rebels were reported to have carried out a sectarian massacre, today the US declares it's arming them

Crazy..



Yes Fecking President Obama
is Crazy

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aDL2hf0tHj4/SklzYMRYFXI/AAAAAAAAD_E/Eo2Lzi_XklY/s1600/Obama_I%27m_with_Stupid.jpg

Nedusa
14-06-2013, 03:35 PM
I think President Putin is the real peacekeeper in all of this, the quicker those anti aircraft missles get to Syria the better.

Trust me, they're already there....!!!!

the truth
14-06-2013, 05:10 PM
INSANITY

why are we world police again? why cant we be back seat drivers? why not let the united nations take charge? as they did in lybia to get rid of ghadaffi?
Imagine there are 1000 people in your town centre smashing each other to bits, then you walked into the middle of it and handed out a load of grenades and bazookas to half of them? will that make the situation better or worse?

why is hague so obsessed with hyping up this situation and why does he seem hell bent on arming the rebels? especially in Syria? where is the negotiation? discussion with the political leaders? exactly when do we actually start to learn from our endless disastrous interventions in incredibly complex situations we can barely understand and have no chance of controlling

The only beginning to this solution is for all parties to get around a table asap....perhaps even some kind of power sharing government can be formed.

arista
14-06-2013, 06:20 PM
"why not let the united nations take charge?"


Because they are to small now
and stuck in the Congo.



Its USA Vs Russia


Russia wins

lostalex
14-06-2013, 10:57 PM
Russia wins? lol. Your even dumber than you look if you believe that Arista. Russia lost 30 years ago and they haven't made any progress since.

Let's also remember that's it's been EUROPE not the USA that has been pressing for support for the Syrian rebels.

If anyone deserves credit for this announcement it's Europe, and France and the UK in specific. If anyone is the poodle in this situation, it's the USA, because France and the UK are too pathetic to even be capable of doing any military operations on their own, they are totally reliant on the USA to do anything militarily and they have been pressing the USA to get involved in Syria for months now. Just like they did with Libya.

If it were up to me, we';d tell Europe to go **** themselves, especially france and UK, and be done with the middle east. The middle east is Europes back yard, it's their responsibility. ****ing TYPICAL that they are dragging us into ANOTHER one of their wars.

arista
15-06-2013, 06:30 AM
Russia will win as they
Supply Air support massive weapons to Syria

America can not stop that

lostalex
15-06-2013, 07:22 AM
As far as i'm concerned, I wish america would just say **** the middle east, pull all the troops out from every country in the middle east, and let them kill each other all they like. I want nothing to do with it.

I'm so ****ing sick of it all.

Let Russia and China and Iran run the middle east. **** them. It's Europe and China that get most of the oil from the middle east anyway, America needs to let Europe finally start fighting it's own wars. We've been protecting Europe since WW2, it's time they started standing on their own 2 feet.

joeysteele
15-06-2013, 07:26 AM
Hate to say it but I agreed with George Galloway on QT as to this that the so called rebel forces should not get armed by the UK particularly.
I am surprised to say the least at the USA now getting involved at all,it seemed President Obama was very reluctant to do so.

I am against any UK involvement and I do feel our Foreign Secretary William Hague has followd the wrong path as to this all along.
We have hardly any idea as to the real make up of these so called rebel forces anyway and we should keep firmly out of this one.
As should Europe too in my view.

lostalex
15-06-2013, 07:53 AM
The EU should create it's own defense force, so they stop relying on the US. we all know the French and British have been pressuring America to get involved for MONTHS now.

lostalex
15-06-2013, 07:54 AM
Hate to say it but I agreed with George Galloway on QT as to this that the so called rebel forces should not get armed by the UK particularly.
I am surprised to say the least at the USA now getting involved at all,it seemed President Obama was very reluctant to do so.

I am against any UK involvement and I do feel our Foreign Secretary William Hague has followd the wrong path as to this all along.
We have hardly any idea as to the real make up of these so called rebel forces anyway and we should keep firmly out of this one.
As should Europe too in my view.

George Galloway? the same george galloway who said having sex with an unconscious woman isn't RAPE, it's just "bad sexual etiquette"

George Galloway is a pathetic old bigot.

"bad sexual etiquette" what a pathetic old piece of **** he is.

arista
15-06-2013, 09:12 AM
As far as i'm concerned, I wish america would just say **** the middle east, pull all the troops out from every country in the middle east, and let them kill each other all they like. I want nothing to do with it.

I'm so ****ing sick of it all.

Let Russia and China and Iran run the middle east. **** them. It's Europe and China that get most of the oil from the middle east anyway, America needs to let Europe finally start fighting it's own wars. We've been protecting Europe since WW2, it's time they started standing on their own 2 feet.

Yes millions Agree



And America only came Late to Europe after Japan
woke you feckers up.

arista
15-06-2013, 09:13 AM
The EU should create it's own defense force, so they stop relying on the US. we all know the French and British have been pressuring America to get involved for MONTHS now.


Not this is Small Arms
from USA
its the President Alone doing it

arista
16-06-2013, 04:35 PM
PM Cameron and Russian Leader Putin
Live on News Ch's.

Putin just said he said the blood is on both sides
and the one that eats their organs - why supply him?

(thats the rebal leader who cut the heart out of one he killed)



Very Valid Putin

Tom4784
16-06-2013, 04:49 PM
The problem with these rebellions is that they often swap one dictator for another. I don't think we should be favouring any side.

arista
17-06-2013, 08:34 AM
The problem with these rebellions is that they often swap one dictator for another. I don't think we should be favouring any side.


Yes we in The UK get MP's to Vote No to that.



So Let American Stupid give Small Arms to Rebals

And Russia to carry on giving better arms & Air Support
to the President of Syria.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/6/17/243313/default/v1/i-1-329x437.jpg

lostalex
17-06-2013, 09:01 AM
Yes millions Agree



And America only came Late to Europe after Japan
woke you feckers up.

Late to Europe? It wasn't our war. We shouldn't have had to get involved at all. It was your problem you should have solved it yourselves.

lostalex
17-06-2013, 09:08 AM
PM Cameron and Russian Leader Putin
Live on News Ch's.

Putin just said he said the blood is on both sides
and the one that eats their organs - why supply him?

(thats the rebal leader who cut the heart out of one he killed)



Very Valid Putin

cause using chemical weapons on children is any less vile than cutting someone's chest open? not really.

arista
17-06-2013, 09:11 AM
cause using chemical weapons on children is any less vile than cutting someone's chest open? not really.


But Rebals have used it as well
Fact

lostalex
17-06-2013, 09:16 AM
But Rebals have used it as well
Fact

my point is both sides are as vile as each other, but Putin is only selling weapons to 1 side, so he's a hypocrite. He has no right to sell weapons to the syrian government and then criticize the the US if we give weapons to the rebels.

Obviously i'm against arming any of these evil fookers. I think we should stay as far away from the entire thing as possible and let the UN sort it out. But the arms industry is large. Both the US and Russia make billions of dollars a year selling weapons.

arista
17-06-2013, 09:38 AM
" Putin is only selling weapons to 1 side"


Yes the President of Syria
thats his choice.



Better than 5 or 6 rebal groups
that end up killing Americans , French and British

lostalex
17-06-2013, 09:43 AM
" Putin is only selling weapons to 1 side"


Yes the President of Syria
thats his choice.



Better than 5 or 6 rebal groups
that end up killing Americans , French and British

OIC, it's fine if Russia's weapons are used to kill people fighting against a tyrannical dictatorship, but heaven forbid any americans or brits get killed.

What would you do if Assad was YOUR president Arista? would you fight him? or would you stay a silent slave? And how would you feel about Russia arming him?

billy123
27-06-2013, 06:30 AM
These are the people obama aka America wants to give weapons to make your own mind up.

WARNING THIS LINK SHOWS SYRIAN REBELS THAT OBAMA SUPPORTS AND SHOWS THE PEOPLE HE LIKES EXECUTING PEOPLE DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU LIKE OBAMA.
http://www.syriantube.net/5047.html