No Housemates of Color?

[Maneki-neko]

Even though there is still 6 housemates to go is anybody a little bit surprised the house is so white?

Sad about the hints they gave us for the next housemates, I was hoping so hard that Annette Edwards & Miss Ticia the african queen with a french accent would be included

[karezza]

Who cares what colour/gender/sexuality the housemates are?

[Jords]

We have a housemate of black entering tomorrow.

[Stankleberry]

I hope there is an Indian. Sree was so awesome.

[Marsh.]

I'd rather they chose housemates based on personality rather than "Oh, they're black, stick them in to conform to some PC quota".

[Patrick]

Who the **** cares?

This is a rare occasion I'm going to agree with 08marsh.

[Monkey Slut]

I never noticed to be honest.

[Tregard]

Maybe the best 14 applicants were just white and Asian?

[Kizzy]

There are 6 more people going in tomorrow, dexter is Korean?

[ThisIsNickkk]

I hope there is an Indian. Sree was so awesome.

Sree gave me the creeps!

But what the hell has it got to do with colour anyway? If we have a decent set of housemates who the hell cares what colour the are?

#Pointless

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why does it matter? LOL

Funny how no one even noticed.

Its all about personality not sexuality/race.

[Jordan.]

We have a housemate of black entering tomorrow.

This. I saw some black feet in the bots teaser.

[Marsh.]

Who the **** cares?

This is a rare occasion I'm going to agree with 08marsh.

:worship:

[Maneki-neko]

I'd rather they chose housemates based on personality rather than "Oh, they're black, stick them in to conform to some PC quota".

I agree. Wasn't saying "Oh channel 5 is so racist!" just a bit surprised.

[GiRTh]

Its a legitimate question to ask why there are no HM's of colour but immediately the denial starts. Sad. :bored:

[Robertocarlo]

I'd rather they chose housemates based on personality rather than "Oh, they're black, stick them in to conform to some PC quota".

I totally agree with you. I detest tokenism just to keep up the quotas.

[Brother Leon]

"Colour" is such a stupid word to use. There usually is just the token black person anyway and that girl is going in tomorrow I think.

[Jords]

Nobody got my Scott impression LOL :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Wasn't saying people of "color" phased out in the late 1950's?

Theres only 16 people out of thousands so why should they put someone in based on the colour of their skin just to look like they are being accepting lol.

[lostalex]

Wasn't saying people of "color" phased out in the late 1950's?


No. You're thinking of "colored people". It's not the same thing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No. You're thinking of "colored people". It's not the same thing.

OP saysno housemates of color aka colored people.

Housemates = people.

[Marsh.]

Its a legitimate question to ask why there are no HM's of colour but immediately the denial starts. Sad. :bored:

And the legitimate answer is Britain is a predominantly white country. So odds are when you stick 10 people in a house out of 60+ million they're most likely to be white.

[emmetmcl]

Who cares what colour they are?

[GiRTh]

And the legitimate answer is Britain is a predominantly white country. So odds are when you stick 10 people in a house out of 60+ million they're most likely to be white.My problem is that we cant have a sensible discussion about this issue on this forum.

There's also a thread on this on Ds and if you ignore the jokes there are some sensible comments. There certainly isnt the defensive stance that many on here take. Sad. :bored:

[Marsh.]

My problem is that we cant have a sensible discussion about this issue on this forum.

There's also a thread on this on Ds and if you ignore the jokes there are some sensible comments. There certainly isnt the defensive stance that many on here take. Sad. :bored:

Then start a sensible discussion on the topic and forum members will oblige.

But members starting threads saying viewers are racist or questioning why there aren't black people in the house as though it's a requirement will get a defensive response.

If all you want is people saying "yes, I agree with you. Never mind my own opinion" then I'm not interested. :)

[Me. I Am Salman]

Mixed ethnicity is as important as mixed age, weight, interests, etc. I want variety because it makes for a more interesting show

[Marsh.]

Mixed ethnicity is great when you have housemates who have come from different parts of the world but someone who is English and born, bred and lives in London does it matter whether they're black or white?

[Me. I Am Salman]

It's not a huge problem but it would be nice, idk

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I just don't think BB should throw in someone from Indian, Nigerian, Chinese or any other culture just to make it on the surface look diverse.

BB is about personality not the colour of your skin.

Its quite offensive actually that people think white people cant be diverse or are all the same.

[Marsh.]

It's also known as positive discrimination to want a black person purely for the sake of having a black person.

[GiRTh]

Then start a sensible discussion on the topic and forum members will oblige.

But members starting threads saying viewers are racist or questioning why there aren't black people in the house as though it's a requirement will get a defensive response.

If all you want is people saying "yes, I agree with you. Never mind my own opinion" then I'm not interested. :)There have been sensible discussion that have all turned to sh*t . During BB8 when a contestant called another the n word this place went into meltdown. There were about half a dozen people perm banned over a couple of days. The comments were disgusting and I dont intend to go thru that again. I dont think there can be a sensible discussion on this subject on this forum.

I do however think its legitimate question that given the 100's of thousands of applicants no black applicant made the final cut.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Its quite offensive actually that people think white people cant be diverse or are all the same.

What a stupid thing to say, it's not because they are white it's because the majority of housemates are white. If they were all black, or Chinese, I'd say the same thing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

There have been sensible discussion that have all turned to sh*t . During BB8 when a contestant called another the n word this place went into meltdown. There were about half a dozen people perm banned over a couple of days. The comments were disgusting and I dont intend to go thru that again. I dont think there can be a sensible discussion on this subject on this forum.

I do however think its legitimate question that given the 100's of thousands of applicants no black applicant made the final cut.

Erm don't know where you got that figure from.

I believe there were about 20 thousand people applying for BB this year...If that.

It was all done via youtube and sending applications via the internet.

[GiRTh]

It's also known as positive discrimination to want a black person purely for the sake of having a black person.Who said they wanted a black person just for the sake of having one?

[GiRTh]

Erm don't know where you got that figure from.

I believe there were about 20 thousand people applying for BB this year...If that.

It was all done via youtube and sending applications via the internet.OK tens of thousands of applicants. Dont make any difference to me its still seems strange.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What a stupid thing to say, it's not because they are white it's because the majority of housemates are white. If they were all black, or Chinese, I'd say the same thing.

So why are people complaining theres no black people?

I don't give a **** either but when people are complaining its all white people sholdnt that be as offensive as someone complaining if only black people went into the house?

Think about it.

[Me. I Am Salman]

So why are people complaining theres no black people?

I don't give a **** either but when people are complaining its all white people sholdnt that be as offensive as someone complaining if only black people went into the house?

Think about it.

all I said was mixed ethnicity would be nice

[GiRTh]

So why are people complaining theres no black people?

I don't give a **** either but when people are complaining its all white people sholdnt that be as offensive as someone complaining if only black people went into the house?

Think about it.:conf:

[Marsh.]

Who said they wanted a black person just for the sake of having one?

Salman may not have intended but it was implied...

It's not a huge problem but it would be nice, idk

Anyway, I don't think the forum 6 years ago fully reflects much of the forum now.

And discussing a relevant topic of racism when it's taken place in the show such as the incident in BB8 is one thing, trying to find racism where there is none is another.

As I said Britain is a predominantly white country so when you put 9 or 10 strangers in a house, the odds are they'll be white (although one of them is Asian IIRC). If we were 13 years in and there'd been no black housemates you'd have a point, as it is 8 white people out of 60+ million people living in Britain isn't strange at all.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

OK tens of thousands of applicants. Dont make any difference to me its still seems strange.

Maybe they just didn't receive enough interesting ethnic applicants?

Last year had Adam, Shivonne and Deana so its just based on personality not race.

Noone complains about the lack of lesbians over the years but when its race everyone goes into overdrive its pathetic.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

all I said was mixed ethnicity would be nice

Read your post back.

You said my comment was "stupid".

[GiRTh]

Maybe they just didn't receive enough interesting ethnic applicants?

Last year had Adam, Shivonne and Deana so its just based on personality not race.

Noone complains about the lack of lesbians over the years but when its race everyone goes into overdrive its pathetic.Maybe, if ,but and all that. You;'re not making a valid point, you're speculating.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:conf:

FFS lol.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Read your post back.

You said my comment was "stupid".

I think you need a good night's sleep dear

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Maybe, if ,but and all that. You;'re not making a valid point, you're speculating.

And so are you.

[GiRTh]

FFS lol.Again, you dont make a point in the comment I query. you make up an unlikely scenario.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think you need a good night's sleep dear

I think you need to read back through your comments DEAR.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Again, you dont make a point in the comment I query. you make up an unlikely scenario.

Screw this im off to play with my willy.

Night peeps.

[Me. I Am Salman]

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[GiRTh]

Maybe they just didn't receive enough interesting ethnic applicants?

Last year had Adam, Shivonne and Deana so its just based on personality not race.

Noone complains about the lack of lesbians over the years but when its race everyone goes into overdrive its pathetic.Its comments like this that make me think we still cannot have a sensible discussion on this forum..

[GiRTh]

Screw this im off to play with my willy.

Night peeps.You going ? So much for the sensible discussion.

[lostalex]

OP saysno housemates of color aka colored people.

Housemates = people.

no, the OP said "people of color" which is a politically correct term used mostly BY people of color to describe anyone who isn't white.

"colored people" is a derogatory term used by whites to describe blacks back in the 50's, as you said.

It's not the same.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Are LostAlex and Daniel-Lewis the same thing or

[lostalex]

Are LostAlex and Daniel-Lewis the same thing or

Who are you talking to?

[Marsh.]

Well when you ignore people's responses how can you expect a discussion? :hmph:

[Kizzy]

I think it best to carry this on when they are all in the house?

[Me. I Am Salman]

Who are you talking to?

I'm sorry but you too are so similar it's hilarious

[Marsh.]

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[Jords]

http://i.imgur.com/MEeFJpL.gif

[lostalex]

I'm sorry but you too are so similar it's hilarious

Um, well considering I was disagreeing with him, you make no ****ing sense. DOn't ****ing address me or talk about me unless you have something sensible to say. kthnx.

[GiRTh]

Well when you ignore people's responses how can you expect a discussion? :hmph:IS that aimed at me? Please be specific which comment did I ignore?

[Withano]

A little over 3% of the UK are black, there would need to be at least 30 housemates until it would be statistically likely to have one there..

[lostalex]

We've got a load of baiting bullsheet going on in this thread. what the serious fook. :bored:

[Marsh.]

IS that aimed at me? Please be specific which comment did I ignore?

Recap the thread.

[GiRTh]

Salman may not have intended but it was implied...



Anyway, I don't think the forum 6 years ago fully reflects much of the forum now.

And discussing a relevant topic of racism when it's taken place in the show such as the incident in BB8 is one thing, trying to find racism where there is none is another.

As I said Britain is a predominantly white country so when you put 9 or 10 strangers in a house, the odds are they'll be white (although one of them is Asian IIRC). If we were 13 years in and there'd been no black housemates you'd have a point, as it is 8 white people out of 60+ million people living in Britain isn't strange at all.
I think you must mean this comment. sorry I must remember to answer every single thing you post even if you're repeating yourself.

The forum is worse now that it was 6 years ago. Theres no chance of any kind of discussion on this topic and tonight has emphasised that.

[Nemo123]

A little over 3% of the UK are black, there would need to be at least 30 housemates until it would be statistically likely to have one there..
How do you define "black"?

[Marsh.]

I think you must mean this comment. sorry I must remember to answer every single thing you post even if you're repeating yourself.

The forum is worse now that it was 6 years ago. Theres no chance of any kind of discussion on this topic and tonight has emphasised that.

You're whinging about not being able to have a sensible discussion and when I offer one you're rude and condescending?

Nothing I have said is unreasonable, instead of staying on topic and discussing it further with what I am suggesting you continue to suggest that this forum is incapable of discussion. How about elaborate on your own slant instead of dismissing others without even saying why.

Maybe this forum can't have a decent discussion with you because you don't want to listen?

[ruiphillips]

I'd rather they chose housemates based on personality rather than "Oh, they're black, stick them in to conform to some PC quota".

This TBH

[GiRTh]

You're whinging about not being able to have a sensible discussion and when I offer one you're rude and condescending?

Nothing I have said is unreasonable, instead of staying on topic and discussing it further with what I am suggesting you continue to suggest that this forum is incapable of discussion. How about elaborate on your own slant instead of dismissing others without even saying why. I dont think you have offered a sensible discussion. You've been defensive and dismissive from the off. You always are on this subject hence why I dont think we can have this discussion.

[Marsh.]

I dont think you have offered a sensible discussion. You've been defensive and dismissive from the off. You always are on this subject hence why I dont think we can have this discussion.

I'm suggesting reasons as to why there are no black people currently residing in the BBUK house.

Are you going to give a counter argument or comment on mine? That's how discussion works.

Without for and against there is no forum for debate. Do you want a "Yes girth, I agree" and call that a discussion?

[Nemo123]

How many are going in tomorrow? There's always people wanting an argument about race.

[GiRTh]

I'm suggesting reasons as to why there are no black people currently residing in the BBUK house.

Are you going to give a counter argument or comment on mine? That's how discussion works.

Without for and against there is no forum for debate. Do you want a "Yes girth, I agree" and call that a discussion?Its your outrage that speaks volumes.

[lostalex]

Can't we just agree that we all want a very diverse house?

There's no Scots in yet eigther.

I want some Scots, i want some Americans, i want some black people, i want some athiests.

[Marsh.]

Its your outrage that speaks volumes.

Elaboration? I'm not outraged I'm baffled as to how 8 people being white = raised concerns about no black people? You've still failed to follow up on what your point actually is.

Speaks volumes for what? You're still not actually saying anything.

If you're reading my posts as outraged then there's some miscommunication, my posts are coming across as frustrated in the last few because I'm finding your method of discussion quite baffling.

[Marsh.]

Can't we just agree that we all want a very diverse house?

There's no Scots in yet eigther.

I want some Scots, i want some Americans, i want some black people, i want some athiests.

Your showing the producers up to be more prejudiced than we ever thought possible. :eek:

[GiRTh]

Elaboration? I'm not outraged I'm baffled as to how 8 people being white = raised concerns about no black people? You've still failed to follow up on what your point actually is.

Speaks volumes for what? You're still not actually saying anything.My initial point in this thread was that this thread had already become defensive. I didnt post until a number of people had gone off and made comments like 'Who the ****** cares' and you made your comment about PC quotas. You were quite dismissive from the start.

[Marsh.]

My initial point in this thread was that this thread had already become defensive. I didnt post until a number of people had gone off and made comments like 'Who the ****** cares' and you made your comment about PC quotas. You were quite dismissive from the start.

Defensive of the fact that there is some ulterior motive for the house being "so white" as the OP put it. It's "sad" he called it.

I dismissed it because, as this is the UK, it is not strange at all that a group of 8 strangers would be white.

I made a comment on PC quotas because I don't feel the need in adding a black person just because everyone else happens to be white.

[Nemo123]

Isn't this debate moot until the next 4 or 5 housemates are put in?

[Marsh.]

It's not much of a debate tbh.

[Nemo123]

It's not much of a debate tbh.
No. Dadaism comes to mind.

[GypsyGoth]

*runs off to google Dadaism*

[Elrond Hubbard]

No. You're thinking of "colored people". It's not the same thing.

My nan still calls them "fuzzy wuzzies".

[854]

lol I know why I quit coming here.

yeah I've noticed the whitewashed cast so far and so what.

half of the final consisted of all minorities last year so why are people complaining?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

the chinese looking one is yellow

[Vicky.]

I'd rather they chose housemates based on personality rather than "Oh, they're black, stick them in to conform to some PC quota".

Yup this is my opinion too.

I dont see why they should have a virtual checklist box of minorities..

EVERYTHING about the selection process should be about personality and how good a housemate the person would be. To select some on personality then say 'oh well X was ok, but Y was better, however X is a minority of some kind, lets pick them to be diverse' is ridiculous

Anyway, more housemates to go in tomorrow.

[mizzy25]

Quite a lot of them seem to be cockneys or @ least from down South. im hoping for a Geordie tonight.

[GiRTh]

Defensive of the fact that there is some ulterior motive for the house being "so white" as the OP put it. It's "sad" he called it.

I dismissed it because, as this is the UK, it is not strange at all that a group of 8 strangers would be white.

I made a comment on PC quotas because I don't feel the need in adding a black person just because everyone else happens to be white.You saw an ulterior motive in the OP's sadness and surprise ? You always respond in an ultra defensive way to all topics like this am I to presume you always see an ulterior motive? Personally, I see a relevant point that deserves comment.

[Vicky.]

Quite a lot of them seem to be cockneys or @ least from down South. im hoping for a Geordie tonight.

God no :bored:

The geordies they have put in so far have been utterly horrendous. I hate going out and everyone saying they love X because he/she is from here..when they are actually a total twat (happily though, there wasnt much support for Jay in his year, that I came across anyway)

[Marsh.]

You saw an ulterior motive in the OP's sadness and surprise ? You always respond in an ultra defensive way to all topics like this am I to presume you always see an ulterior motive? Personally, I see a relevant point that deserves comment.

I feel like I'm talking to myself.

I'll say it one last time. I never said the OP has an ulterior motive, I said the OP thinks there's an ulterior motive for BB not having any black people in the house.

But considering the way you dance around the topic and don't actually address anything I'll guess you already know that and just like being difficult.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Um, well considering I was disagreeing with him, you make no ****ing sense. DOn't ****ing address me or talk about me unless you have something sensible to say. kthnx.

but you're both really loud and argumentative and chavvy

[Headie]

I watched the BOTS sneak peeks/teasers of the housemates going in tonight, and I think there's 1 black girl and 1 black guy going in tonight.

[reece(:]

I only saw a half cast black man.

[Johnnyuk123]

There is no one orange going in this year. I am furious!

[Redway]

What others have said. Forget about whether housemates are black or Polish and focus on personality. Nine-tenths of people couldn't care less. :bored:

[cyberwar]

Even though there is still 6 housemates to go is anybody a little bit surprised the house is so white?

Sad about the hints they gave us for the next housemates, I was hoping so hard that Annette Edwards & Miss Ticia the african queen with a french accent would be included

I guess they are not catering for us black viewers this year, or even for people who are not bleached blonde or jack the lad types.

BB has deliberately chosen so far bleach blonde women over every other type of woman. Its not because they are the most entertaining. Its becos thats the look they are looking for.

[Headie]

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@ 0:10 and 0:11 there is a black guy and a black girl.

[lostalex]

but you're both really loud and argumentative and chavvy

chavvy? I'm not even British. did the American flag in my ava not tip you off? stop talking ****.

and now i'm argumentative, because i respond to posts? this is a forum, that's what you do, you respond to posts. That's not being argumentative, that's PARTICIPATING..

[reece(:]

Everyone can calm down now, Gina Rio has been confirmed to go in.
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