What ruined Big Brother?

[NiallMcCarthy]

what made it lose its viewers?

jade goody, more contact with the outside world, the move to ch5, tackiness?

[King Gizzard]

People just generally getting bored of the concept, and the Jade thing was the final nail in the coffin of it getting mainstream appeal

Shame, cause I really liked Hijack

[Drew.]

i dont personally think its ruined.. lack of promotion lost its viewers

[Rob!]

It's an unpopular opinion and RIP and all that, but I believe it was Jade.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Jade
Channel 5, since there's clearly less viewers compared to C4

[King Gizzard]

^ and that

[Jack_]

The gross exaggeration and moral panic of the 'race row' (that was actually class based bullying, not race) created by the media and commented on unnecessarily by politicians. Sadly it could have been prevented had Big Brother done the right thing and stepped in earlier.

[thesheriff443]

bigbrother is only as good as the people they put in! add to that a production team that where lazy and uncreative, then jade and others brought racism then shelf life and here we are!

[Novo]

I would have loved another Hijack series, every episode was just fresh with a new famous face coming in each day and making them do tasks rather then the housemates sitting around doing nothing, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to think about doing another hijack next year

[zakman440]

2 words. Brian Dowling.

[Jack_]

After Jade, Ofcom drove the show into the ground by ensuring it had to be toned down and I think C4 just gave up. I'd also put a lot of the blame on so-called 'fans' who also saw fit to consistently complain about irrelevant issues which supposedly 'offended' them.

And also...vote to evict and moronic voting patterns that destroyed series after series early definitely played a small part too.

[thesheriff443]

2 words. Brian Dowling.

channel four dropped bb before brian!

[King Gizzard]

I would have loved another Hijack series, every episode was just fresh with a new famous face coming in each day and making them do tasks rather then the housemates sitting around doing nothing, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to think about doing another hijack next year

and because it was just youngsters and they all had a different profession there were loads of different personalities and it just worked, wish they had put it on CH4

[Me. I Am Salman]

I don't get the love for hijack on here. It was SO boring, more or less a C4 version of BB12

[Jack_]

I would have loved another Hijack series, every episode was just fresh with a new famous face coming in each day and making them do tasks rather then the housemates sitting around doing nothing, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to think about doing another hijack next year

I'd like another Hijack, in all honesty if they're going to continue with a summer CBB I'd prefer it to become a Hijack series.

January - CBB
Summer - BB
Autumn - Hijack (you'd have to move it 6 weeks or so later I reckon cause otherwise you'd have two bunches of civilian housemates one after the other)

[Novo]

and because it was just youngsters and they all had a different profession there were loads of different personalities and it just worked, wish they had put it on CH4

the celebrities were all actually pretty well known and talented as well.. i suppose nowadays they'd probably just put half the cast of towie/MIC in to be the Hijackers

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I don't get the love for hijack on here. It was SO boring, more or less a C4 version of BB12

.

[Ramsay]

It's just been on for a long time. After 14 years it's not surprising that people have moved on to other things

[Novo]

Salman you were probably in Nappies when BBCH was on, i don't expect you to remember it's greatness

[BringItOn]

Jade didn't affect how good BB9 was but the rest of the options all made BB as classy as it is to this day... if I still call it Big Brother? I loved hijack

[Moviefan]

I would have add BB Fight night to list as well,

I do think it was Jade bullying , which did hurt the show a lot!

[smeagol]

i dont think its ruined but it became a joke amongst most people cause of the live feed of watching people sleep , it became a joke when people turned in to see people sleeping all the time.
and the endless amount of freaks.
i was hoping they were returning to normal people but alas we got more models twins and freaks

[Dash Darington]

The wild overreaction to two women fighting, and Britain's bizarre love of censorship in general. Bad casting as well.

[Marc]

i dont personally think its ruined.. lack of promotion lost its viewers

This person ^ ruined BB

[Lostie!]

For me, the revamp that C5 did to it lessened my enjoyment. Didn't ruin it exactly, otherwise I wouldn't watch altogether, but I don't particularly like elements such as music accompanying the housemates arriving, Marcus being overused and over-the-top, montages, etc. I also want the nostalgic look back at the series during the finale to return, C5's take on those have been crap. :(

[Tony1111]

A mix of three things. It started with Jade's comments. They started to ease off controversy after that and nudity got scarce too and they played it safe. The tackiness introduced in BB11 and built upon on the move to Channel 5, I dislike those montages and music, the names on screen I can live with and Marcus I can live with. The fundamental rule of the outside world was also broke which I hated it defeats the social experiment aspect of the show. :p

[Jamesy]

Other > The show being brought back to our screens too soon.

If the format was left for 5-10 years and then brought back with a fresh new look it could kick off in a great way again. As you have a massive change in audience. C5 brought it back when the television audience that stopped watching the show was the same. If they gave it a 10 year break there would be a massive shift and pretty much a clean slate for new viewers to be introduced to the format.

One almost good example would be Doctor Who. BBC cancel it. They bring it back 15 years later and it's now one of the most popular shows on telly again. Big Brother really should have gone that way.

[Samm]

Other > The show being brought back to our screens too soon.

If the format was left for 5-10 years and then brought back with a fresh new look it could kick off in a great way again. As you have a massive change in audience. C5 brought it back when the television audience that stopped watching the show was the same. If they gave it a 10 year break there would be a massive shift and pretty much a clean slate for new viewers to be introduced to the format.

One almost good example would be Doctor Who. BBC cancel it. They bring it back 15 years later and it's now one of the most popular shows on telly again. Big Brother really should have gone that way.

Should have been brought back this year

[Me. I Am Salman]

Salman you were probably in Nappies when BBCH was on, i don't expect you to remember it's greatness

I'm thankful

[james130]

Was never quite the same after the race-row. :(

[Tony1111]

The thing that gets me the most is that the new Director of Channel 5 wanted a more serious approach but all he did was change the presenters BOTS was exactly the same and even less up market with the two new presenters who are awful and I doubt that the editing has changed at all by the looks of it I am sure the task team, Jamie , Alice and Jamie, Helen and a Brian are all gutted. :p

[karezza]

Move to Channel 5.
Big Brother should have been allowed to die for a few years before it was resurrected.

[ruiphillips]

Moving to Channel 5 was the worst blow to the series ever. Desmond basically bought the show so he could fill his papers and magazines with the fake wannabe housemates. Also, having Brian as a host, the tacky music and editing.

Big Brother. A parody of it's former self since 2011.

[Alf]

How can you put the Jade + Shilpa situation in that list

The Jade + Shilpa situation put the show on the all the major national news programmes

That did more for the publicity and promotion of the show than anything else

[Colbert-Bump]

The Jade incident changed the way the media treated Big Brother, they all turned their backs on the show.

[Omah]

The repulsive Goody and her repellent "fambly" ..... :yuk:

I've just had a horrible flashback of Tweedy spurting on one of Goody's haunches ..... :eek:

[Omah]

It's just been on for a long time. After 14 years it's not surprising that people have moved on to other things

Yeah, it's just well past its' use-by day date ..... :bored:

[Marsh.]

The race row affected its popularity and also made the show start to play it safe.

But after 13 years, the show is pretty much spent. With or without the race row, people grow tired of a format. The X Factor is beginning (or already begun) its decline now and gets a lot of bad press compared to the early years.

It's a shame though. If the show had been left to rest after channel 4 had the last UBB to end on a high then it could have had quite a big comeback in 3-4 years. Channel 5 not only picking it up but bleeding it dry has only killed it more tbh.

[Shaun]

It's just overegged and we've seen every possible twist. It's now purely down to the strength of the housemates and the tasks, and thankfully they're still succeeding in that regard. It's just no longer the hot new thing to talk about (other reality shows, talent shows and scripted-reality shows have stolen its thunder in that regard).

[Kizzy]

The original format appealed to certain people, these wannabees don't really appeal to anyone.
If you've seen one model drinking herself clever and a bloke with an ego the size of a small principality you've seen them all.....

[Alf]

It's just overegged and we've seen every possible twist. It's now purely down to the strength of the housemates and the tasks, and thankfully they're still succeeding in that regard. It's just no longer the hot new thing to talk about (other reality shows, talent shows and scripted-reality shows have stolen its thunder in that regard).
Never mind that Shaun, what i wanna know is, what's happening with the top ten's in the music section?

What's the Damon Albarn result? and who's next? the suspense is killing me.

[Josy]

Hira

[Ammi]

..I don't think that it is ruined, I just think that Channel 5 are trying to make it into a completely different show and maybe if they had done that and changed the name etc, it would have been better because otherwise it'll always be compared in a way of losing certain things..I['m enjoying it much more now that I'm not comparing it to Channel 4 anymore...

[Maneki-neko]

I think it was just kinda a perfect storm. After the Jade scandal things came down from the show's climax of BB5 and BB6 and entered kind of a downward slope. Channel 4 knew when to kill it off. The Channel 5 move only made things worse. I'm happy its still on in a way I guess, but maybe its not for the better.

[billy123]

I voted other.
Some of the arrogant nobwipes that follow the show that think they have a right to tell them how to run the show and do their jobs and if they dont get everything their own way cry like babies and post hateful threads are a pet hate of mine.

These type of "fans" are too stupid to realise the harm the do to the show they already caused channel 4 to scarper and seem set to see off channel 5 as well and leave us without any big brother.

Chavtastic.
At least these little brats that ruined it were too young to watch the first 5-6 series of the show and we have that to remember how great it once was.

[BeloTheBelt]

I dont think its ruined. As someone else said, its been going 14 years now and people get bored despite how much they tweak it.
Theres also, i think, a sense of snobbery regarding BB.
Admit in general conversation that you watch it and people look down their noses at you as if you're saying you're a Sun reader.

[Johnnyuk123]

Putting the same wannabeez/stereotypes in year after year whilst telling the public that they won't.

[thesheriff443]

I voted other.
Some of the arrogant nobwipes that follow the show that think they have a right to tell them how to run the show and do their jobs and if they dont get everything their own way cry like babies and post hateful threads are a pet hate of mine.

These type of "fans" are too stupid to realise the harm the do to the show they already caused channel 4 to scarper and seem set to see off channel 5 as well and leave us without any big brother.

Chavtastic.
At least these little brats that ruined it were too young to watch the first 5-6 series of the show and we have that to remember how great it once was.

I like your way of thinking!:xyxwave:

[waterhog]

the focus on the younger viewers and what the producers think they want to see. but this series looks like they are changing this.

[Kizzy]

About time, no true fans want to see people go in as mad a box of frogs... We want that to be a slow drawn out occurrence over the course of the series :devil:
My pet hate are those who focus heavily on the presenters and furniture.. That is not for me what BB is about it's purely human interest,

[Kazanne]

I think the format has changed too much it doesn't seem the same show that we first saw,too many housemates the same and it's based on 'looks' too much.think this might be my last one ,if I even stay the distance.