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In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 09:46 AM
Feels to me that how everyone seems to be considering Sallie atm is a bit unfair; going on about what a vile person she is, no redeeming qualities, one dimensional etc. I don't think this is the case at all. It's true she can be quite immature and a too self centred at times, but fundamentally she does seem like a well intentioned and honest person who's perfectly capable of getting along with other people, her main problem is that she lashes out when she feels wronged or threatened instead of dealing with it in a calmer manner.

Last night her reaction to being nommed was over the top but understandable; it's been seen at various times that she's got along well with Michael, and then one day he's in the DR having a bit of a cheap shot about how she dresses and the next he nominates her over all the others and doesn't seem that bothered about it. Her reaction was more of a defence mechanism to hide that she was quite upset about it, you could see she didn't really know what to do and was quite unsettled by it; not sure whether to stand up or sit down, twice walking over to the kitchen and then back again etc. Dexter said pretty much all the same things about Michael that she said in the garden afterwards but no one has really held it against him, and Sallie even admitted that she was handling the whole thing terribly

Plus I think there's more to her than just her loud and argumentative side, she has interesting friendships with a few of them in there like Wolfy, and also with Hazel even though you wouldn't always expect two young models to get along so well. She's admitted that her initial judgements about some people were wrong with Jemima and even last night showed she was willing to give Gina more of a chance, plus we saw a softer side to her in the DR after that argument with Gina. And she's always pretty lively and energetic, you're not likely to just catch her lying around on her own or sleeping somewhere.

So basically yeah, I'm bored and thought I would share some musings with you all. In short; Sallie is great, everyone evict Gina.

The Human Santapede
19-06-2013, 09:49 AM
I think she has the first week syndrome where her way of dealing with stuff is to be centre of attention. She has already calmed down somewhat since the first night. Also, I get why she is pissed off with Michael, they have been getting on all week and I guess she thought they were friends and he just backstabbed her.

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 09:52 AM
I thought Michael's 'side boob' comment was very nasty, she has every right to be upset but she needs to get a grip and realise that she's on BB and it's not always going to go her way.

GiRTh
19-06-2013, 09:53 AM
I like her, despite her many flaws over bearing personality. I think she is the potential 'journey' HM and not Gina. She needs to remember where she is and calm down a bit.

The Human Santapede
19-06-2013, 09:55 AM
Yeah, I think Sallie could do well if she tones it down a bit.

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 09:57 AM
great OP by the way MTVN

GiRTh
19-06-2013, 09:57 AM
I agree that she doenst know how to react to Michael and thus I feel sorry for her. She needs to cope better though and not lash out so often.

Vicky.
19-06-2013, 10:00 AM
She was my favourite but yesterday I went right off her. She's still in my top 4, but she seriously needs to tone it down a bit. I know Michael is just acting and stuff, but I really did feel sorry for him the way she went on..

She seems to be trying to hard to 'say it like it is' and is just coming across as a nasty bitch to be quite honest. Good entertainment value, but not a very nice person.

However, I think its all a front, as I do with Dexter. Hopefully we see some of the 'nice' side of her soon.

In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 10:04 AM
Served Michael right after banging on about how great it was going to be to nominate those 3 and what amazing choices they were :idc:

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 10:05 AM
One concern I have with Sallie is she was very quick to say how low cut Hazel's tops were when she was trying to defend herself against Michael's insults. If that's how quick she is to turn hate on to her friends it doesn't 'cut' it very well with me personally.

Her comment was in some ways fair enough as Hazel's tops are lower cut but perhaps the problem is that Sallie doesn't realise just how much of her backside is on view when she wears those shorts. Afterall, she can't actually see it whereas we can.

It was kinda strange how she didn't mention the shorts at all and only focused on how low cut her tops were.

Kizzy
19-06-2013, 10:05 AM
Nah, the barrage of abuse hurled at micheal was an eye opener..
Calling him a *******? and saying she's going to make his life a living hell?
Far far too angry and aggressive, her and hazel have formed a little clique and are trying to dominate the house.

Vicky.
19-06-2013, 10:07 AM
Served Michael right after banging on about how great it was going to be to nominate those 3 and what amazing choices they were :idc:

She didnt know about that though. She thinks he just nominated her. Makes a big difference IMO.

Patricia4
19-06-2013, 10:08 AM
Calling him a ******* was out of order I want her to go.

In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 10:09 AM
She didnt know about that though. She thinks he just nominated her. Makes a big difference IMO.

Yeah I know but that's just why I don't think Michael is really deserving of any sympathy, especially after later on as well when he thought it was hilarious that Dexter had been crying about his nomination

The 'real' Michael seems like a bit of a nob to me

In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 10:11 AM
One concern I have with Sallie is she was very quick to say how low cut Hazel's tops were when she was trying to defend herself against Michael's insults. If that's how quick she is to turn hate on to her friends it doesn't 'cut' it very well with me personally.

Her comment was in some ways fair enough as Hazel's tops are lower cut but perhaps the problem is that Sallie doesn't realise just how much of her backside is on view when she wears those shorts. Afterall, she can't actually see it whereas we can.

It was kinda strange how she didn't mention the shorts at all and only focused on how low cut her tops were.

I did sorta think that too but yeah she is right that she doesn't wear that low cut tops all that often, a lot of the time she's got a hoodie on, and like she said last night considering Michael shredded all her clothes on first night she's probably not had a great deal of choice in what she wears lol

Vicky.
19-06-2013, 10:12 AM
Yeah I know but that's just why I don't think Michael is really deserving of any sympathy, especially after later on as well when he thought it was hilarious that Dexter had been crying about his nomination

The 'real' Michael seems like a bit of a nob to me

Hes not deserving of sympathy I agree..which is why I felt daft when I felt sorry for him :laugh:

But if she can be like that with him when she doesnt know what hes like, she would be the same with a genuine nomination I think..she thinks hes this shy retiring bloke who sulks in bed all day for gods sake, and she talks to him like that?! :laugh:

The Human Santapede
19-06-2013, 10:13 AM
One concern I have with Sallie is she was very quick to say how low cut Hazel's tops were when she was trying to defend herself against Michael's insults. If that's how quick she is to turn hate on to her friends it doesn't 'cut' it very well with me personally.

Her comment was in some ways fair enough as Hazel's tops are lower cut but perhaps the problem is that Sallie doesn't realise just how much of her backside is on view when she wears those shorts. Afterall, she can't actually see it whereas we can.

It was kinda strange how she didn't mention the shorts at all and only focused on how low cut her tops were.


I think Sallie was trying to defend why hers are out by saying that Hazels are on show more and that hazel has all her clothes. Sallie pointed out that she doesn;t have much choice as her clothes were shredded.

sampvt
19-06-2013, 10:16 AM
She has a game plan to carve out an Alpha female roll in the house by whatever means she sees fit, the problem is she cant do it all that well and she has reverted to foul means to get to her goal. If she would only just stop talking over people and think before she opens her mouth, she might fit the bill a bit better as she does have qualities that make her interesting. She is acting like a trollop at the moment and her dress sense is certainly contrived for Bb and not what she is actually like in real life.

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 10:16 AM
I did sorta think that too but yeah she is right that she doesn't wear that low cut tops all that often, a lot of the time she's got a hoodie on, and like she said last night considering Michael shredded all her clothes on first night she's probably not had a great deal of choice in what she wears lol

I think Sallie was trying to defend why hers are out by saying that Hazels are on show more and that hazel has all her clothes. Sallie pointed out that she doesn;t have much choice as her clothes were shredded.

all true, but in fairness she was wearing those very same shorts on her entrance to the house, she clearly doesn't have a problem being on show in them, whether she has her suitcase or not. But yeah, she does have a point too.

I'm not really sure who the real Michael is, the 'real' Michael seems as much an act as the 'puppet' Michael

GiRTh
19-06-2013, 10:17 AM
Sallie was trying to defend herself with the Hazel comment. I think its clear she likes Hazel and the comment wasn't meant to be malicious. I think Sallie just doenst know how to defend herself in a confrontation hence her felling that she 'keeps it real' when in truth she completely loses it. I like the fact she acknowledged she was not taking the nominations very well. Finally a bit of self awareness.

In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 10:19 AM
Hes not deserving of sympathy I agree..which is why I felt daft when I felt sorry for him :laugh:

But if she can be like that with him when she doesnt know what hes like, she would be the same with a genuine nomination I think..she thinks hes this shy retiring bloke who sulks in bed all day for gods sake, and she talks to him like that?! :laugh:

I guess, but that makes him seem all the more hypocritical for nominating other people for being 'boring' and rightly or wrongly I think she genuinely believed they got on pretty well in the first few days. I know he was just using the reasons he had to but to the others he must have seemed quite rude as well, normally in live noms they'd probably apologise for it or qualify their choices by saying 'I still think you're a nice person' or whatever, which if even if not genuine at least shows a little bit more sympathy

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 10:24 AM
Sallie was trying to defend herself with the Hazel comment. I think its clear she likes Hazel and the comment wasn't meant to be malicious. I think Sallie just doenst know how to defend herself in a confrontation hence her felling that she 'keeps it real' when in truth she completely loses it. I like the fact she acknowledged she was not taking the nominations very well. Finally a bit of self awareness.

I agree to an extent but even if the Hazel comment wasn't meant to be malicious, I doubt Hazel would see it that way. She'd likely be quite upset by it, especially as Sallie is probably the closest to her in the house so far. It was a bit self centred at least if not malicious. And yeah, clearly lacking in self-awareness.

Kizzy
19-06-2013, 10:32 AM
The hazel comment is interesting in that sallie may be right, hazels boobs might be on show more?...
However it's the personas of the two girls that differ, hazel is just more self assured and comfortable in her own skin and sallie wields her 'assets' and her femininity like a weapon.
Her sexual aggression is what some find uncomfortable, proclaiming you're a tomboy whilst overtly displaying your breasts is somehow a bit primal.
She is challenging the women and the men of the house.

Tom4784
19-06-2013, 10:34 AM
She's just too dominant and annoying.

Nedusa
19-06-2013, 11:33 AM
She was my favourite but yesterday I went right off her. She's still in my top 4, but she seriously needs to tone it down a bit. I know Michael is just acting and stuff, but I really did feel sorry for him the way she went on..

She seems to be trying to hard to 'say it like it is' and is just coming across as a nasty bitch to be quite honest. Good entertainment value, but not a very nice person.

However, I think its all a front, as I do with Dexter. Hopefully we see some of the 'nice' side of her soon.

I don't think Michael cares one bit about what any HM says to him, as for him it's his job to cause conflict,division and subterfuge.He is very happy to be in the position he is in as he is not actually playing any real part in the show.

I think last years CBB with Speidi gave the producers the idea to put into the show someone who the other HM thinks is a complete maverick and use him to create mayhem.Good idea but cannot continue for too long...

Vicky.
19-06-2013, 11:34 AM
I don't think Michael cares one bit about what any HM says to him, as for him it's his job to cause conflict,division and subterfuge.He is very happy to be in the position he is in as he is not actually playing any real part in the show.

I think last years CBB with Speidi gave the producers the idea to put into the show someone who the other HM thinks is a complete maverick and use him to create mayhem.Good idea but cannot continue for too long...

I know..thats why I felt silly for feeling sorry for him :joker:

thesheriff443
19-06-2013, 11:46 AM
sallie is an old dog with a big mouth.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 12:42 PM
I thought Michael's 'side boob' comment was very nasty, she has every right to be upset but she needs to get a grip and realise that she's on BB and it's not always going to go her way.

...um, you do get that it was a comment sent in by viewers for him to say, don't you?

A cat lady probably sent it in :bored:

Yeah I know but that's just why I don't think Michael is really deserving of any sympathy, especially after later on as well when he thought it was hilarious that Dexter had been crying about his nomination

The 'real' Michael seems like a bit of a nob to me

I'm pretty sure everyone on here would've been trying not to laugh in that situation, I felt sorry for him but it's one of those 'this is so bad I'm going to end up laughing because it's totally the wrong moment to', knowing you shouldn't laugh so it makes it worse, I was laughing just looking at him trying to hold it in

I think if he were a genuine housemate he'd have felt bad, the reason it was funny was because it's not really him making the nominations

Jack_
19-06-2013, 12:44 PM
I know..thats why I felt silly for feeling sorry for him :joker:

This is why I think people are being really unnecessarily harsh to him, if he can actually make me feel sorry for him he's not that bad an actor.

I think he's done a decent job, it's the incompetent producers that are ruining it and shoving him in their faces too much.

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 12:50 PM
...um, you do get that it was a comment sent in by viewers for him to say, don't you?

A cat lady probably sent it in :bored:


I don't know where it came from, I saw the clip with BB and Michael, and BB never mentioned the side boob. I understand it would be strange to have come from Michael but I haven't seen any evidence of where the source was, maybe you've seen more than I have.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 12:55 PM
I don't know where it came from, I saw the clip with BB and Michael, and BB never mentioned the side boob. I understand it would be strange to have come from Michael but I haven't seen any evidence of where the source was, maybe you've seen more than I have.

Viewers were asked to send in comments for Michael to read out when the housemates watched him in the diary room for the second time talking about who he might nominate, the sideboob comment was one of the comments sent in

likeafire
19-06-2013, 01:05 PM
Ummmmmmm since when have michael and sallie been best of friends. She stole his chocolates when he told her not to, she bangs on to him that hes fake. Ive barely seen them talking.

P.s. if sallie was such a good friend to michael why did she blast him for two days in front of everyone, even after michael apologised, is that what friends do or was it for airtime.

P.s. a friend i know, her name is brook, shes on twitter, she workd in a club. She said she met sallie when sallie came to her club she works at and she said that sallie was rude and was calling her names just to make her friends laugh.

I suggest you get ur head out of her a**e u might be able to see more clearly then

Livia
19-06-2013, 01:18 PM
She was nominated with the reason that she always fights to be the centre of attention. She dealt with that by... making a scene and becoming the centre of attention. Dreadful woman...

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 01:21 PM
Viewers were asked to send in comments for Michael to read out when the housemates watched him in the diary room for the second time talking about who he might nominate, the sideboob comment was one of the comments sent in

what program was that on? I never saw it

Bluerang1
19-06-2013, 01:22 PM
You defend Sallie but bring Gina down? :conf:

likeafire
19-06-2013, 01:25 PM
what program was that on? I never saw it

Lmao. At least watch the show before youre gonna defend someone like that.....deary deary me

Jack_
19-06-2013, 01:29 PM
what program was that on? I never saw it

One of the Bit On The Side's I believe, and it was mentioned on the website somewhere

The comments were definitely stuff viewers had sent in, Michael didn't just make them up...it was set up and he was told what to say...

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 01:39 PM
Lmao. At least watch the show before youre gonna defend someone like that.....deary deary me

defend someone like who? I'm not sure what you're talking about but you make your point in a very rude manner.

I'm trying to work out something that's fairly important to the thread, what are you doing exactly?

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 01:42 PM
One of the Bit On The Side's I believe, and it was mentioned on the website somewhere

The comments were definitely stuff viewers had sent in, Michael didn't just make them up...it was set up and he was told what to say...

I've seen most of the programs and I don't recall seeing that. I do recall seeing BB tell Michael more or less what Livia has mentioned. Anyway, the side boob
comment seems to me the one that Sallie has found most difficult to deal with.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 01:56 PM
I've seen most of the programs and I don't recall seeing that. I do recall seeing BB tell Michael more or less what Livia has mentioned. Anyway, the side boob
comment seems to me the one that Sallie has found most difficult to deal with.

*facepalm*

dyRBoaausnQ

Skip to 16:00 minutes exactly

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 01:58 PM
*facepalm*

dyRBoaausnQ

Skip to 16:00 minutes exactly

I skipped to 16 minutes...and yet...still no evidence that BB told Michael to say Side Boob. I suspect that they did but like I said there is no evidence, and your video proves nothing at all.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 02:01 PM
Marcus: 'For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates, and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts which he is about to deliver to the house'

Then at 17:05 Michael says 'put your ass and your sideboobs away'

SERIOUSLY?! If you actually listened you'd see that the video proves what I said originally. Deary me

Pink Pegasus
19-06-2013, 02:02 PM
In the episode itself at about 16 mins in the following is said:

"For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts, which he is about to deliver to the house"

(Michael then goes on to make the comments including the sideboob one)

so yeah I think the sideboob was something he was told to say by viewers. Did she not even get nicknamed "Sideboob Sallie" somewhere on opening night? It might have been on this forum, not sure. I think her sideboob has been mentioned on BOTS before but I'm not 100% on that.

Michael probably enjoyed making the comments as he genuinely doesn't seem to like her (even as his real self).

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 02:03 PM
There still is no direct evidence that BB told him to say it...no matter how patronising you get that's the FACT of the matter..deal with it.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 02:04 PM
omg...

VIEWERS WERE ASKED TO SEND IN THEIR OPINIONS

MICHAEL WAS BRIEFED WITH WHAT THEY'D SAID

HE SAID THEIR COMMENTS

All the stuff he said was comments the viewers had made, much like the nomination reasons they were asked to give the other night too. He didn't just make up the sideboob comment, that's something a cat lady on Facebook would've sent in

I mean seriously

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 02:04 PM
In the episode itself at about 16 mins in the following is said:

"For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts, which he is about to deliver to the house"

(Michael then goes on to make the comments including the sideboob one)

so yeah I think the sideboob was something he was told to say by viewers. Did she not even get nicknamed "Sideboob Sallie" somewhere on opening night? It might have been on this forum, not sure. I think her sideboob has been mentioned on BOTS before but I'm not 100% on that.

Michael probably enjoyed making the comments as he genuinely doesn't seem to like her (even as his real self).

I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 02:06 PM
omg...

VIEWERS WERE ASKED TO SEND IN THEIR OPINIONS

MICHAEL WAS BRIEFED WITH WHAT THEY'D SAID

HE SAID THEIR COMMENTS

All the stuff he said was comments the viewers had made, much like the nomination reasons they were asked to give the other night too. He didn't just make up the sideboob comment, that's something a cat lady on Facebook would've sent in

I mean seriously

well you can't prove it, so probably best to give it up.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 02:06 PM
I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..

YES because that was when viewers were asked to send in nomination reasons

The clip I have just provided was when Michael was shown in the diary room discussing who he MIGHT nominate using comments the viewers had also been asked to send in giving their opinions of them

They are two separate instances but on both occasions the viewers comments were used

The sideboob comment was a viewer comment, as was the centre of attention. The former was a general opinion viewers were asked to tweet in, the latter was a nomination reason they were asked to suggest

Jack_
19-06-2013, 02:08 PM
I can't actually believe this conversation is happening

It's like me saying 'well I never saw BB telling him to shred the housemates suitcases on launch night so therefore I just think he's an evil ******'

He is being told what to do and say...he's a puppet...

fruit_cake
19-06-2013, 02:10 PM
I can't actually believe this conversation is happening

It's like me saying 'well I never saw BB telling him to shred the housemates suitcases on launch night so therefore I just think he's an evil ******'

He is being told what to do and say...he's a puppet...

I do accept what you believe you have seen but what I am trying to point out is that it's not completely out of the question that Michael himself may have added in a few words of his own? It's poetic licence as far as I'm aware.

Jack_
19-06-2013, 02:12 PM
I really don't think 'put your sideboobs away' is the kind of comment he would come up with, just look at the jealous cat ladies on the Facebook page, they are all making similar comments, it's not difficult to guess who came up with it

Pink Pegasus
19-06-2013, 02:13 PM
I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..


I saw the bit you are talking about but I think they are two separate things. The first is where Michael gets asked by Big Brother "who you have in mind" for nominations tomorrow because he is the only one nominating. It just gave Big Brother a chance for Michael to say the viewers comments and at at the same time cause tension in the house by showing the other housemates him bitching.

Yesterday he was just told the exact reasons to give for his nominations and to say Sallie was attention seeking, whereas previously he had just been asked "who do you have in mind for nominations" and secretly told to relay comments that the public had tweeted.

That's my take on it anyways, could be wrong though! :)

Pink Pegasus
19-06-2013, 02:19 PM
Just saw your other post and I can't argue with you that there is no concrete proof that Michael might have thrown in another comment, it's just that I have definitely seen that sideboob comment mentioned online and maybe even on BOTS too so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a viewer comment especially seeing as Big Brother said just beforehand that he was relaying viewers tweets.
But you are right that there is no concrete proof of this, it just makes the most sense to me though.

YodaBB
19-06-2013, 02:30 PM
She has a game plan to carve out an Alpha female roll in the house by whatever means she sees fit, the problem is she cant do it all that well and she has reverted to foul means to get to her goal. If she would only just stop talking over people and think before she opens her mouth, she might fit the bill a bit better as she does have qualities that make her interesting. She is acting like a trollop at the moment and her dress sense is certainly contrived for Bb and not what she is actually like in real life.

Shes not been wearing much of her clothes as she doesn't have her suitcase, It's not really fair to judge her clothing sense when the clothes are not even hers

In the Drunk Tank
19-06-2013, 02:38 PM
Ummmmmmm since when have michael and sallie been best of friends. She stole his chocolates when he told her not to, she bangs on to him that hes fake. Ive barely seen them talking.

P.s. if sallie was such a good friend to michael why did she blast him for two days in front of everyone, even after michael apologised, is that what friends do or was it for airtime.

P.s. a friend i know, her name is brook, shes on twitter, she workd in a club. She said she met sallie when sallie came to her club she works at and she said that sallie was rude and was calling her names just to make her friends laugh.

I suggest you get ur head out of her a**e u might be able to see more clearly then

Oh wow Brook who works in the club said that? Well that's me convinced

alex_front2
19-06-2013, 02:54 PM
Yes, despite what I said in the 'Skanky' thread I do think she's good value and watchable. She's got good character traits and as she said she hasn't come into the house to lie in bed all day.

MatthewS
19-06-2013, 03:01 PM
I think she's an okay so far and is actually doing decently well for herself in the house. Yeah, she's been a little controversial and made a few potentially problematic comments, but, compared to some of the other housemates, at least she brings something to the table. What have the twins done? What has Daley done? At least when it comes to Sallie she isn't playing things safe, she has a temper, isn't afraid to express herself, calls it like it is, and I don't think she can be considered to be 'acting' of 'fake'. I would be very surprised if she was evicted and imo she's holding her own in the house.

Kazanne
19-06-2013, 03:03 PM
I thought Michael's 'side boob' comment was very nasty, she has every right to be upset but she needs to get a grip and realise that she's on BB and it's not always going to go her way.

Didn't Michael just convey what the public wanted?I think that is what the public said and he had to pass it on,not 100% but sure that's my take on it.

iRyan
19-06-2013, 03:15 PM
Great post MTVN and I agree with everything you said.

Ammi
19-06-2013, 04:23 PM
Feels to me that how everyone seems to be considering Sallie atm is a bit unfair; going on about what a vile person she is, no redeeming qualities, one dimensional etc. I don't think this is the case at all. It's true she can be quite immature and a too self centred at times, but fundamentally she does seem like a well intentioned and honest person who's perfectly capable of getting along with other people, her main problem is that she lashes out when she feels wronged or threatened instead of dealing with it in a calmer manner.

Last night her reaction to being nommed was over the top but understandable; it's been seen at various times that she's got along well with Michael, and then one day he's in the DR having a bit of a cheap shot about how she dresses and the next he nominates her over all the others and doesn't seem that bothered about it. Her reaction was more of a defence mechanism to hide that she was quite upset about it, you could see she didn't really know what to do and was quite unsettled by it; not sure whether to stand up or sit down, twice walking over to the kitchen and then back again etc. Dexter said pretty much all the same things about Michael that she said in the garden afterwards but no one has really held it against him, and Sallie even admitted that she was handling the whole thing terribly

Plus I think there's more to her than just her loud and argumentative side, she has interesting friendships with a few of them in there like Wolfy, and also with Hazel even though you wouldn't always expect two young models to get along so well. She's admitted that her initial judgements about some people were wrong with Jemima and even last night showed she was willing to give Gina more of a chance, plus we saw a softer side to her in the DR after that argument with Gina. And she's always pretty lively and energetic, you're not likely to just catch her lying around on her own or sleeping somewhere.

So basically yeah, I'm bored and thought I would share some musings with you all. In short; Sallie is great, everyone evict Gina.


..yeah, a good post MTVN..I agree with most of it, I can't understand how anyone can judge someone as having almost no redeemable qualities through just 1 week..(a few hours really..) of seeing someone on the TV and also when Sallie was put in the position of being nominated and hear Michael say what he said about her...anger was a natural reaction, but it wasn't so much the anger for me, it was the remark about hoping she could stay and 'make his life hell' or something like that..?...I thought that was quite spiteful and revealing..which may also make her an interesting and entertaining housemate..but the the same could be said of any unpleasant aspects of Gina's character...they would make her 'equally' deserving to stay in...and maybe she is forming some friendships but it's really easy to be 'nice and pleasant' to people you like or have stuff in common with...for me, it's more interesting how you are with people that you don't like, and I do think she came across as quite spiteful...

..anyway, having said that, I do think 1 week isn't enough to get an opinion anyway and I would like to see more of all three, so I guess it doesn't matter who goes, it's annoying that one of them has to....

Headie
19-06-2013, 04:47 PM
If you're gonna say all this about Sallie, then you have to say the same for Gina.

As for Dexter, he hasn't offered much so far, and even if he has potential, he hasn't showed it yet.

Santa's NaughtiNess
19-06-2013, 04:48 PM
:nono:All three of them have potential. It's a shame none of the bores are up for eviction.