Jackie's obsession with Callum's VT

[Josy]

Why is Jackie so obsessed with Callum's VT?

Everyone stopped talking about the VT's ages ago yet she's still obsessed and going on and on about it...

[Jemal]

She just doesnt want Charlie to like him, which is stupid.

[Daffodil]

I think it's probably because the shagging 'mother and daughter' thing was a bit too close to home. He had singled Charlie out for attention and maybe Jackie thinks he had a plan to repeat his claims. Just a thought. Whether he was telling the truth or not, it was a very strange thing to choose to say on his VT.:mad:

[GypsyGoth]

She just doesnt want Charlie to like him, which is stupid.

I agree. Her motivation for continually picking on Callum is so Charlie won't think of getting close to him again.

[Jemal]

Who just saw the exclusive on bots?

[Josy]

Who just saw the exclusive on bots?

Nah what was it?

[Marsh.]

I think it was fair when she brought it up again yesterday.

Callum admitted he bites his tongue and is minding himself because he doesn't want to jeopardise his chances of becoming a teacher.

But then, why would he create such a VT that will be shown on TV if he's so worried about developing a reputation that will hinder his career. It was a fair mention.

[Jemal]

Nah what was it?

Basically Callum n Charlie were talking about their relationship in the garden. And then jackie came and sat beside them, then Charlie said "mum are you sitting here to make sure i dont talk to callum?"
Jackie then replied by criticising Charlie saying she over analyize all the time. Which made callum who was in between them awkward. Lmao but yea they continued their convo with jackie there anyways.

[Josy]

I think it was fair when she brought it up again yesterday.

Callum admitted he bites his tongue and is minding himself because he doesn't want to jeopardise his chances of becoming a teacher.

But then, why would he create such a VT that will be shown on TV if he's so worried about developing a reputation that will hinder his career. It was a fair mention.

She brings it up a lot though plus she's now using it as an excuse to nominate him when if it bothered her so much she would have nominated him because of it the week she first watched it.

Basically Callum n Charlie were talking about their relationship in the garden. And then jackie came and sat beside them, then Charlie said "mum are you sitting here to make sure i dont talk to callum?"
Jackie then replied by criticising Charlie saying she over analyize all the time. Which made callum who was in between them awkward. Lmao but yea they continued their convo with jackie there anyways.

Oh god she's so annoying, I honestly think Callum and Charlie would still be really close if Jackie wasn't in there.

[cookiemonster]

because she's trying to protect her daughter. she believes that vt is true. and if it is you wouldn't want your daughter becoming another notch on his bedpost would you

[actor99]

Yes Jackie is a bit overpowering. not over the moon on her. cant see her going fri. because the to favourites H+W. Callum should be ok. unless its 2

[CaudleHalbard]

Zero chance of Jackie leaving on Friday. I would guess about 60% will vote to evict Hazel (after that interview with Katy) 35% Wolfy and the other 5% Callum and Jackie combined.

[Indy]

Jackie is delusional enough to think Callum would try the mother daughter thing with her. She must have a magic mirror.

[Jemal]

Jackie is delusional enough to think Callum would try the mother daughter thing with her. She must have a magic mirror.

Lmfao *dies*

[00Jamie00]

Yeah she still thinks his VT was true, he's actually been a PE teacher up until quite recently and is a nice guy

[Kizzy]

What was she on about 'a teacher thats slept with 200 people'?...
Teachers have sex woman!
Fgs don't tell her what Mr Garretts extra curricular activities are :laugh:

[CaudleHalbard]

Callum is a bit teacher-like in some ways: instructing Daley, Wolfy etc on how they should behave.

[Vanessa]

I'm not too keen on Callum, but he's harmless. Jackie is a cow. Her true colous are showing. :nono:

[michael21]

I agree. Her motivation for continually picking on Callum is so Charlie won't think of getting close to him again.

i want to get close to Charlie :evilgrin:

[Josy]

i want to get close to Charlie :evilgrin:

Very good.

So do you have anything worth reading regarding the OP of this thread?

[Jords]

Very good.

So do you have anything worth reading regarding the OP of this thread?

:joker:

[michael21]

Very good.

So do you have anything worth reading regarding the OP of this thread?

not at this time i will review the tonight show and get back to you :hmph:

[Jemal]

Very good.

So do you have anything worth reading regarding the OP of this thread?

LOL *dies*

[Videostar]

And of course now that Jackie has seen his VT she thinks she knows the real Callum.

Shes even more immature than her daughter if she really believes that.

[the truth]

she wants callum ...she wants to school in bedroom gymnastics

[GiRTh]

Very good.

So do you have anything worth reading regarding the OP of this thread?:joker:

Jackie is doing herself no favours with her little petty squabbles in the house. I think Charlie may be more mature in terms of her attitude toward the experience.

[vortex]

Jackie does have to go soon, I don't really like her to be honest but the main reason I want her evicted is to get Charlie alone, she's not enjoying the experience or being herself.

[Spoon]

Jackie can really be a harpy sometimes, and she doesn't just give Charlie a sharp, unnecessary retort once. She'll say something stinging about four times with only slightly different, self-centered wording.

Charlie deserves to have an experience that's just about her and not be made to feel guilty about everything she's doing. Jackie's had enough time there to get TV dancing gigs and endless Bit on the Side appearances; she can go soon (but after Wolfy!)

[Nedusa]

Maybe she's hopeful of getting a bit from Callum.... !!!

[thesheriff443]

I think Jackie has trust issues, and callum hit a nerve with his lies.
as a parent you would not want your daughter to be with a liar.
callum is a liar and smug at times with his act!,

[JTM45]

Really cannot stand Jackie now. It's been explained to the senile bint that people exaggerate their vt's or even make them up completely yet she still harps on like he's a danger to children and should never teach again!
She really gets on my *****ing last nerve!!!:yuk:

[OOTF]

What I don't understand is her banging on about it. What was all that about 200 women and being a teacher? She said it would jeaporadise his career? Poppycock! What does it matter what he does in his own time.

What she doesn't seem to have realised it is was an AUDITION TAPE. In other words something only meant for the production team to see in order to make a selection of housemates.

Only her keeping on and on and on about it like it has any relevance or importance is bringing it into people's consciousness constantly so not his VT but actually Jackie is making problems for him. (Should anyone give a hoot what he does in his own time. Not the best thing to brag about but hardly something to effect his chosen career.)

Why is she so hung up on a few minutes of VT. Let it go already.

[Jemal]

Lmao at poppycock
*dies*

[smeagol]

Why is Jackie so obsessed with Callum's VT?

Everyone stopped talking about the VT's ages ago yet she's still obsessed and going on and on about it...

she doesn't like him. if you remember ages ago in th tree house when he came in while charlie and jacky were trying to talk ( totally creepy n rude). she gave him the look of death lol
she dont trust him cause the way he acts. the vt just confirms her suspicions.
cant blame her . he is trying to pull her daughter. this is a guy who brags about banging loads of women. which he obviously has.
i doubt any mother would be different.

[OOTF]

'Poppycock' is a great word isn't it!

I don't know about Callum 'clearly' has slept with a lot of women. Don't know how you are verifying that.

Charlie is what 28 though? Doesn't mean Jacky will stop being that irritating brand of mother who interferes but I don't believe all mothers would belittle their own daughters like that. Charlie was never interested in Callum anyway, quickest way to get her interested - disapprove obviously. Charlie has a bit of a rebel background, rebels usually need something to rebel against. Anyway Jackie's like or dislike is her own and not her place to put it on her daughter.

[Stankleberry]

Jackie wants Callum to bend her over and put it in. She is jealous that he likes Charlie.

[Jemal]

I actually think their was a slim chance of Charlie and callum if jackie didnt talk about the VT.
But I know they would of remained close either way.

[anne666]

She simply cannot lay off proving what a BAD judge of character Charlie really is. Just one of her demeaning savage put downs of her daughter. Remember the Jeremiah dead child thing. She was pointing out to the nation that Charlie is not just a tactless woman but an immature tactless woman. She had to convince everyone of that fact by revealing some of her daughters private details of course. Horrible point scoring creature.

[Ellen]

I dont think there would have been a romance between Callum & Charlie, Callum fancies her but Charlie doesnt him but i do think they could have got on really well if Jackie had not have interfered.
When Callum tried to talk to Charlie about getting the friendship back, Jackie was straight in there ensuring they could not have a proper conversation.
Jackie & Charlie have not been true to their vt either.

[CaudleHalbard]

Jackie wants Callum to bend her over and put it in. She is jealous that he likes Charlie.

Ever she heard about Callum allegedly doing a mother and daughter, she so wants to be done by Callum! Can't get it out of her mind! :D

[Videostar]

Jackie wants Callum to bend her over and put it in. She is jealous that he likes Charlie.

At her age bending over might be a problem. :devil:

[Vanessa]

Jackie wants Callum to bend her over and put it in. She is jealous that he likes Charlie.

:laugh2:

[Marsh.]

She simply cannot lay off proving what a BAD judge of character Charlie really is. Just one of her demeaning savage put downs of her daughter. Remember the Jeremiah dead child thing. She was pointing out to the nation that Charlie is not just a tactless woman but an immature tactless woman. She had to convince everyone of that fact by revealing some of her daughters private details of course. Horrible point scoring creature.

To be fair, the purpose of that was to show that Charlie wasn't conniving or bitchy with her comments. She was just naive.

Gina, Jemima and the others still weren't sure about Charlie and were wary of her, Jackie tried to persuade them that she's made genuine mistakes and is naive and isn't purposely offensive.

[anne666]

To be fair, the purpose of that was to show that Charlie wasn't conniving or bitchy with her comments. She was just naive.

Gina, Jemima and the others still weren't sure about Charlie and were wary of her, Jackie tried to persuade them that she's made genuine mistakes and is naive and isn't purposely offensive.

AS a mother there is no way I would have demeaned my daughter in such a way. It was not her place to disclose anything about Charlie either. I don't like either of them much to be fair LOL. I think that far too much was made of Charlie's supposed tactless remarks by bitchy people wanting to put her down.Nothing more.

[Vicky.]

Jackie is delusional enough to think Callum would try the mother daughter thing with her. She must have a magic mirror.

I think she's pissed off that he hasn't

But seriously, who cares how many people a teacher has slept with? He said he had only slept with 8(?) people anyway and made up the 200 thing to get in the house. But even if he had done 200 people, including mother and daughter, than has no bearing on his teaching abilities. Its as if she thinks teachers have no life outside of teaching and are completely celibate.

[CaudleHalbard]

I find Jackie far more annoying than her daughter.

The two of them clearly don't get on.

[Marsh.]

AS a mother there is no way I would have demeaned my daughter in such a way. It was not her place to disclose anything about Charlie either. I don't like either of them much to be fair LOL. I think that far too much was made of Charlie's supposed tactless remarks by bitchy people wanting to put her down.Nothing more.

Oh I agree, discussing such personal information in unrelated conversations was low of both Jackie and Jemima.

But Charlie is quite immature and childish so it's only fair pointing it out IMO.
Better to be oblivious to your actions than a calculating **** stirrer.

[Marsh.]

I think she's pissed off that he hasn't

But seriously, who cares how many people a teacher has slept with? He said he had only slept with 8(?) people anyway and made up the 200 thing to get in the house. But even if he had done 200 people, including mother and daughter, than has no bearing on his teaching abilities. Its as if she thinks teachers have no life outside of teaching and are completely celibate.

I don't think that was her point.

It was more that not many teachers have themselves and their private life splashed on the TV for all to see.

For teachers they'll find all kinds of roadblocks for that kind of thing, makes me wonder why Callum went on a show like BB where anything could happen and he could jeopardise his career ambitions.

Penny from BB2 faced a backlash for flashing her boobs in the house. I can't recall if she was fired or not but it's bound to cause problems with her job when kids can google the teachers tits. There's a kind of respect barrier some of the kids will lose.

Jackie wasn't suggesting that what he said in the VT makes her question his teaching abilities but she's at a loss as to why he'd make the VT but then try to hold himself back in the house for fear of ruining his chances.

[Vicky.]

I don't think that was her point.

It was more that not many teachers have themselves and their private life splashed on the TV for all to see.

For teachers they'll find all kinds of roadblocks for that kind of thing, makes me wonder why Callum went on a show like BB where anything could happen and he could jeopardise his career ambitions.

Penny from BB2 faced a backlash for flashing her boobs in the house. I can't recall if she was fired or not but it's bound to cause problems with her job when kids can google the teachers tits. There's a kind of respect barrier some of the kids will lose.

Jackie wasn't suggesting that what he said in the VT makes her question his teaching abilities but she's at a loss as to why he'd make the VT but then try to hold himself back in the house for fear of ruining his chances.
Never did Rachel Rice any harm..

If you arent planning on going on and making a fool of yourself I dont think it matters really. Also the media interest in the show is slim to none..its not like BB ruins lives anymore, even for the really horrible HMs.

[Marsh.]

Never did Rachel Rice any harm..

If you arent planning on going on and making a fool of yourself I dont think it matters really. Also the media interest in the show is slim to none..its not like BB ruins lives anymore, even for the really horrible HMs.

:conf: Did Rachel Rice boast about her sexual conquests? But she didn't worry about it ruining her career whereas Callum is obviously wary of it.

I know what you're saying, Callum will be fine teaching wise for all those reasons.

But my point was that it was Callum himself who said he's holding himself back because he doesn't want anything to come back and bite him on the arse when teaching. Jackie just pointed out if he felt that way why would he make a VT the way he did? It's a contradiction of his intentions.

[Vicky.]

:conf: Did Rachel Rice boast about her sexual conquests? But she didn't worry about it ruining her career whereas Callum is obviously wary of it.

I know what you're saying, Callum will be fine teaching wise for all those reasons.

But my point was that it was Callum himself who said he's holding himself back because he doesn't want anything to come back and bite him on the arse when teaching. Jackie just pointed out if he felt that way why would he make a VT the way he did? It's a contradiction of his intentions.

Sorry I thought you were on about going on BB in general :laugh:

Did Callum say anything about being worried about his career prospects before Jackie started going down his neck about it?

[Roy Mars III]

It is odd. Callum said that after the show he would have to go away for a year or so because all the press that came with the show did not befit someone who wanted to be a teacher. Yet he makes that VT to get into the house

[anne666]

Sorry I thought you were on about going on BB in general :laugh:

Did Callum say anything about being worried about his career prospects before Jackie started going down his neck about it?

No he started that conversation talking about his plans for teaching, where he was going etc. Then the viper stepped in with her ridiculous comment( confidence draining as usual) and as usual the daft sap backed down and agreed with her. He needs assertiveness training and fast.

[Ellen]

Perhaps at the time when he made the vt he wasnt sure he was going to be a teacher? I dont know.
We can all look back in hindsight.
I do think it is a bit hypocritical calling some one on their vt when you yourself are not been genuine to your own vt. Both Charlie & Jackie are not true to their vt's either.

He should just tell her to sod off, he's explained his reasons, she can believe or not believe thats up to her.

[CaudleHalbard]

Maybe he thought his VT would just get him on the show and would never be seen - other than by the production team.

[Marsh.]

Sorry I thought you were on about going on BB in general :laugh:

:laugh: No, just the people who jeopardised their jobs by their behaviour.


Did Callum say anything about being worried about his career prospects before Jackie started going down his neck about it?

Nope, that was my point. Callum mentioned the reason he comes across so reserved is because he doesn't want to do anything to wreck his career. Prompting Jackie to, quite rightly, ask why he'd make a VT like that if he was so concerned about it.

[Marsh.]

Maybe he thought his VT would just get him on the show and would never be seen - other than by the production team.

No, they film the actual VT's specially for the launch show. And any idiot knows that they film your early auditions as well to use as clips.

If he thought they'd never be shown he's a bigger fool than he looks especially given that BOTS and the other spin offs always take the p out of these things.

[Indy]

Ultimately, Charlie is the product of Jackie's parenting. The best thing Jackie could do for her is cut ties and keep her venom to herself. Over time it's actually becoming more and more uncomfortable to watch a mother who has obviously spent 28 years emotionally blackmailing and manipulating her offspring continue to do so for a global audience.

[Marsh.]

Ultimately, Charlie is the product of Jackie's parenting. The best thing Jackie could do for her is cut ties and keep her venom to herself. Over time it's actually becoming more and more uncomfortable to watch a mother who has obviously spent 28 years emotionally blackmailing and manipulating her offspring continue to do so for a global audience.

And you got all this psychobabble from them being locked in a confined space, filmed 24/7 and only edited highlights shown? :rolleyes:

[BJ2]

"clutching at straws" springs to mind.

[Indy]

And you got all this psychobabble from them being locked in a confined space, filmed 24/7 and only edited highlights shown? :rolleyes:

It's hardly psychobabble. No reasonable adult parent speaks to their 28 year old like that. Control freaks do. How many HEALTHY adult families do you know where the 50 something mother still treats the 20 something child like a 12 year old? It's not like they're rare or anything. They line up in droves to do trashy talk shows.

[Jemal]

She started on Callum today aswell

[Jemal]

“@BBUKLive: 4:41pm: Callum asked Jackie what her issue with his VT was, and a mini fracas has arisen between Charlie & Jackie! #bbuklive #TotalTraversty”
“@BBUKLive: 4:44pm: "I'm not sure about the real you...you're Mr Too Nice, why are you being like you are?" says Jackie to Callum. #bbuklive”
“@BBUKLive: 4:48pm: So Jackie thinks that Callum doing the washing up too much is evidence of his being a martyr. Maybe he just likes it? #bbuklive”

With eviction coming up she thinks shes being so entertaining, when shes just being annoying and being a prick. Even people that like her on twitter are starting to get pissed.

[sampvt]

Maybe Jackie thinks that acting like a teenage muppet on crack will give her a video deal or a chance on Strictly. Who the hell wants to listen to a geriatric energiser bunny with more cellulite than my gran. She needs to learn a lesson from this show....when kids grow up....LET THEM GO FFS.

[chuff me dizzy]

Shes a good Mother ,trying to prevent her daughter being used, ALL good Mums would do the same

[Marsh.]

It's hardly psychobabble. No reasonable adult parent speaks to their 28 year old like that. Control freaks do. How many HEALTHY adult families do you know where the 50 something mother still treats the 20 something child like a 12 year old? It's not like they're rare or anything. They line up in droves to do trashy talk shows.

I just don't think you can take enough from a television reality show where a mother is looking out for her daughter to deduce she is a control freak or make your wild accusations about how Charlie was raised. It's such a completely false and heightened environment that it's impossible.

We can form judgements/opinions on the housemates behaviour in the house from what we see of course but to form these wild presumptions about their entire lives outside of the show is uncalled for to be honest.

[fingers]

Having a wank on TV didn't stop Glynn from pursuing a teaching career.

[Indy]

I just don't think you can take enough from a television reality show where a mother is looking out for her daughter to deduce she is a control freak or make your wild accusations about how Charlie was raised. It's such a completely false and heightened environment that it's impossible.

We can form judgements/opinions on the housemates behaviour in the house from what we see of course but to form these wild presumptions about their entire lives outside of the show is uncalled for to be honest.

Are you suggesting that only in the house is Jackie rude and condescending towards her grown daughter, overreacting to everything she says, and trying to cower her into silence when she speaks? When Jackie makes comments about "you always (insert negative criticism here)" she's only said those over the past 3 weeks? It's not rocket science, nor is it psychology, it's basic common sense.

[Jemal]

Having a wank on TV didn't stop Glynn from pursuing a teaching career.

Or benedict.

[Marsh.]

Are you suggesting that only in the house is Jackie rude and condescending towards her grown daughter, overreacting to everything she says, and trying to cower her into silence when she speaks? When Jackie makes comments about "you always (insert negative criticism here)" she's only said those over the past 3 weeks? It's not rocket science, nor is it psychology, it's basic common sense.

I never said that. I said this is a unique situation where everybody's personalities are magnified x1000. They don't live under each other 24/7 in the real world, so they're regular lives would not be like this. Nor do they live with a bunch of strangers that they have to deal with whilst being filmed.

So taking the exaggerated and 45 minutes of highlights to judge how Charlie was raised or how their relationship functions outside is misinformed IMO. She's going to be more protective of her daughter when they're in this kind of environment.