Dazel, the truth

[sampvt]

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

[smeagol]

nice list and all very true. i dont think we should judge anyway its not our business.
our business is the show and how they get on with eachother. not if one is single cheating etc .

[Gillian-73]

Daley talked about his girlfriend as his girlfriend until people started warning him he was crossing a line with Hazel and then convieniently he started to say they were not really together. The clip on BOTS last night of him in the Diary room, he talked of his girlfriend saying he would do nothing to jeopordise his relationship with her.
How do we know he cheated on his ex? Except from a post on bbspy (which anyone could have posted) were is the proof?
The interview with Katie was uncomfortable viewing and should have ended when she got upset. I believe she was genuinely upset.

[CaudleHalbard]

Hazel will almost certainly be evicted day after tomorrow, so she and Katy can have a good old chat about Da Man! ;)

[Gillian-73]

Unfortunately she will be evicted. Damn that Wolfy surviving!

[sampvt]

Daley talked about his girlfriend as his girlfriend until people started warning him he was crossing a line with Hazel and then convieniently he started to say they were not really together. The clip on BOTS last night of him in the Diary room, he talked of his girlfriend saying he would do nothing to jeopordise his relationship with her.
How do we know he cheated on his ex? Except from a post on bbspy (which anyone could have posted) were is the proof?
The interview with Katie was uncomfortable viewing and should have ended when she got upset. I believe she was genuinely upset.

Daley also did say at the beginning that his life was all a bit of a mix up and he was in there to find himself and get some direction. How do we know that Katy is right in everything she says or was their relationship on rocky ground before he went in. The simple fact is that nobody bar those 2 know the truth and we are not being fair to act as judge and jury especially since it effects the way the program runs. This will save wolfy for sure and that's not right as her actions are 100% in evidence, not open for interpretation.

[Gillian-73]

Daley also did say at the beginning that his life was all a bit of a mix up and he was in there to find himself and get some direction. How do we know that Katy is right in everything she says or was their relationship on rocky ground before he went in. The simple fact is that nobody bar those 2 know the truth and we are not being fair to act as judge and jury especially since it effects the way the program runs. This will save wolfy for sure and that's not right as her actions are 100% in evidence, not open for interpretation.
1. True, I had forgot about that.
2. Completley agree. I will be very surprised if Wolfy gets evicted now. The only saving grace could be, not every viewer watches BOTS but I do still think Hazel will be out. Two weeks running we're going to lose the chance to evict the disgusting Wolfy. Her spitting makes me sick.

[Niamh.]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

[GiRTh]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one pointWe don't know if katy was his mistress. It pure speculation'; so its a bit premature for this kind of talk :joker:

[Gillian-73]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

There was ONE post on bbspy saying this, which lets face is could have been written by anybody! I've seen nothing to suggest it's true.

[Yayita]

Nice post, certainly opened my eyes about Katy.. She isnt so innocent either. Daleys baby momma must be flipping out after that interview, she should contact BOTS

[Ellen]

We can only speculate that this is the case, we do not know that katie was the one he left his gf for. One message does not make this the truth.

[Niamh.]

We don't know if katy was his mistress. It pure speculation'; so its a bit premature for this kind of talk :joker:

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrr

[sampvt]

As smeagol pointed out, well done smeagol, SHE SAID she stole Daley from his ex...on her twitter page. case closed.

[Josy]

Well even if it's true it's a completely different thing actually having to watch another girl constantly come on to your partner of 8 months on tv tbf, Hazel has been told that Daley is in a relationship but yet continues to lure him in.

[Niamh.]

Well even if it's true it's a completely different thing actually having to watch another girl constantly come on to your partner of 8 months on tv tbf, Hazel has been told that Daley is in a relationship but yet continues to lure him in.

Pfft, it's karma, I did feel sorry for her but not if she did the same to another girl, I doubt that other girl was any less heart broken

[anne666]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

Yes if it is true then Karma can sting a bit.Something fishy about the whole thing to me. The issue of Daley messing with other women was skated over rather clumsily on BOTS. We only got a partial and one-sided story.

[Josy]

Pfft, it's karma, I did feel sorry for her but not if she did the same to another girl, I doubt that other girl was any less heart broken

No Karma would be Daley cheating normally, it's just downright awful for her to have to watch it play out on tv.

[anne666]

Well even if it's true it's a completely different thing actually having to watch another girl constantly come on to your partner of 8 months on tv tbf, Hazel has been told that Daley is in a relationship but yet continues to lure him in.
Daley could always say NO. LOL. They deserve each other and she will crap all over him once the sleazy mags are finished with them. Karma again.

[RichardG]

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrr

He's even the one who started it in the first place with the whole 'I like you' nonsense written on her hands. The whole thing to me is completely dull and I hope they're both evicted soon.

[Niamh.]

He's even the one who started it in the first place with the whole 'I like you' nonsense written on her hands. The whole thing to me is completely dull and I hope they're both evicted soon.

It is dull, It just annoys me that everytime it's the womans fault and we get ***** and slut being thrown around and the poor guy has always been mislead :bored:

[Vicky.]

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrr

I can see this happening for one simple reason. Daley before Hazel was absolutely invisible besides farting and rubbing lotion on himself whilst singing. If Hazel goes, he has no storyline again..and people have short memories. Also there will always be another villain...after this week it will be Wolfy again no doubt, then maybe Dan. If you are quiet, with VTE you sail to the final :(

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As for the Katie being a mistress thing, its only ever brought up by Daley/Hazel fans who are desperately clinging to it to make out that the pair are doing nothing wrong. There has been one post saying this..what other time does one post of a randomer on the internet mean absolute truth? I think its quite disgusting that they are trying to smear this poor girls name when there is nothing whatsoever to say that what they are saying is true. Daleys (alleged) nephew was apologizing to Katie on twitter last night about Daleys behavior so if we are going on the 'anything posted on the internet is utter fact' thing, then his family dont appear to think she did anything wrong ;)

[Niamh.]

No Karma would be Daley cheating normally, it's just downright awful for her to have to watch it play out on tv.

Well he hasn't actually cheated on her but ok

[GiRTh]

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrrYes that man was an idiot.

Someone said on DS that Hazel is a posh Irish girl cuz she lives in Dublin D4. Is that true?

There are natural double standards in this situation, they exist, they're wrong but we have to accept them. For instance, Daley said no at least four times when Hazel tried to hug him - it was a little half hearted but still - yet she still persisted. I don't particularly want to discuss that double standard cuz it'll wake up all the misogynists on the forum complaining that if a man had ignored a no so many times he'd have been thrown out of the house.

All we can say is that this is far too complicated for our speculation. Did Katy steal Daley? Were they in a relationship? Only they know the truth but I think it's a bit early to be criticising Katy without all the facts.

[Niamh.]

I can see this happening for one simple reason. Daley before Hazel was absolutely invisible besides farting and rubbing lotion on himself whilst singing. If Hazel goes, he has no storyline again..and people have short memories. Also there will always be another villain...after this week it will be Wolfy again no doubt, then maybe Dan. If you are quiet, with VTE you sail to the final :(

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As for the Katie being a mistress thing, its only ever brought up by Daley/Hazel fans who are desperately clinging to it to make out that the pair are doing nothing wrong. There has been one post saying this..what other time does one post of a randomer on the internet mean absolute truth? I think its quite disgusting that they are trying to smear this poor girls name when there is nothing whatsoever to say that what they are saying is true. Daleys (alleged) nephew was apologizing to Katie on twitter last night about Daleys behavior so if we are going on the 'anything posted on the internet is utter fact' thing, then his family dont appear to think she did anything wrong ;)

Apparently Katie tweeted it herself

[Vicky.]

Apparently Katie tweeted it herself

Yes, apparently. Funnily enough though, the only people who ever saw this tweet were Hazel/Daley fans, and they cant produce said tweet now..yet still go on about it :joker:

[anne666]

They BOTH have low moral standards and unfortunately for them some viewers and HM's don't. This is nothing to do with love. Its £1 signs for her, nothing more. IMO He seems too dim to ever be able to think with anything other than his penis, so lust for him. More seedy than the usual showmances on there that's all.

[Josy]

There was one post I actually saw about that over at bbspy and it wasn't Katie herself that posted it, but the admin from there removed a lot of posts for being rumours about hm's personal lives.

Why would anyone tweet that they used to be their partners mistress though?

[GiRTh]

They BOTH have low moral standards and unfortunately for them some viewers and HM's don't. This is nothing to do with love. Its £1 signs for her, nothing more. IMO He seems too dim to ever be able to think with anything other than his penis, so lust for him. More seedy than the usual showmances on there that's all.Sad but true :joker:

[Marsh.]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

It's probably the sleep deprivation but this just made me :laugh2:.

[anne666]

There was one post I actually saw about that over at bbspy and it wasn't Katie herself that posted it, but the admin from there removed a lot of posts for being rumours about hm's personal lives.

Why would anyone tweet that they used to be their partners mistress though?

I saw the BB spy posts. They were not from her, but three or four different ?? women. All seemingly? with a grudge to bear. I complained about it as the statements were libelous and pretty vile.They should never have been allowed in the first place. But such is the internet.This is the mildest of the things he was accused of. Not to be believed of course ! Who knows?

[Josy]

I saw the BB spy posts. They were not from her, but three or four different ?? women. All seemingly? with a grudge to bear. I complained about it as the statements were libelous and pretty vile.They should never have been allowed in the first place. But such is the internet.This is the mildest of the things he was accused of. Not to be believed of course ! Who knows?

Yes there was a few things posted, one of them has proven to be a lie already.

[anne666]

Yes there was a few things posted, one of them has proven to be a lie already.

Yes it is all supposition and I am more concerned with the behaviour in the show, which is all we know.

[Razor]

Hazel is going all this just for a showmance to get some magazine deals and work for when she leaves the BB house.

[Vicky.]

Well he hasn't actually cheated on her but ok

With respect Niamh, I dont agree with this at all.

If Gavin had been acting like Daley is with another woman, I would definitely consider it cheating. There is more to cheating than sleeping with someone IMO.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think it really matters if Katie "stole" Daley from his ex & how can she steal him anyway?? Daley was obviously more than willing!

What is happeneing now inside the house is still wrong & Hazel & Daley are both equally as bad as each other. Daley has a girlfriend & Hazel knows he has a girlfriend!

I still feel bad for Katie.

[YodaBB]

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

You go on about, 'what/who to believe' for point one & Ignore that theory for the other points. There is zero proof that Katy cheated with Daley, except one twitter user.Daley also mentioned in the first 2 weeks & still has AFTER he said she wasn't a girlfriend, that Katy is his girlfriend. Therefore you're first, second, third, fourth & seventh points are all invalid

[Niamh.]

With respect Niamh, I dont agree with this at all.

If Gavin had been acting like Daley is with another woman, I would definitely consider it cheating. There is more to cheating than sleeping with someone IMO.

He's crossing a line for sure and I wouldn't be happy about it either if It was my Gav in there but I don't think it's cheating...................yet

[GiRTh]

He's crossing a line for sure and I wouldn't be happy about it either if It was my Gav in there but I don't think it's cheating...................yetDo you both have partners called Gav? What else do you two have in common?

Like I said this is far too complicated for anyone to act like they can be judge and jury. Katy tears on BOTS last night took this to a new level. She seems genuinely hurt so the who's at fault argument is somewhat of a moot one.

[YodaBB]

As smeagol pointed out, well done smeagol, SHE SAID she stole Daley from his ex...on her twitter page. case closed.

No she didn't....

[Beso]

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

Your last paragraph,how the he'll can you say "the truth" in your thread title..how do you expect to be taken seriously:nono:

[YodaBB]

Daley has stated that Katy & he were together in the house for the duration except once when he was practically cheating. Katy has also said they're together, that is the truth.. They've both said it

[Niamh.]

Do you both have partners called Gav? What else do you two have in common?

Like I said this is far too complicated for anyone to act like they can be judge and jury. Katy tears on BOTS last night took this to a new level. She seems genuinely hurt so the who's at fault argument is somewhat of a moot one.

Yeah we do :laugh:

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?

[Johnnyuk123]

I can only believe what Daley has said himself on live tv. He made it crystal clear at the very start that he has a girlfriend and ALL the girls in the house knew about this, now he's moving the goal posts the dirty snake.

[Speedster]

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

You seem to have forgotten 1 truth, which is,that Daley did what he did because HE wanted to. Despite what people seem to think, us men ARE in control of our actions, that is of course, until we choose not to be.

I've yet to read the same amount of venom aimed at Daley for his cheating on his last g/f as there is towards Hazel for liking/fancying him because, as usual, most people just want to hold a woman responsible for men's actions.

If he didn't like the attention/respect his g/f he could/would do something about this, but he hasn't. People should wake up and realise men CHOOSE to do what we do, women DO NOT force us.

[GiRTh]

Yeah we do :laugh:

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?So if Simon Baker was in the house with you asking for hugs you'd be telling him to back off eh? :joker:

I agree that Daley needs to do more but I just cant like what Hazel is doing. Daley has said no on a number of occasions and whether its a man or woman no should mean no; in my mind there is no such thing no means yes.

Also, knowing that hugging someone is making them aroused but still insisting and not taking no for an answer is quite close to harassment. Hazel can do without the occasional hug but she still insists knowing what she's doing to the man. Now its getting more complicated cuz some will argue that she can do what she wants etc and they are right. I'm a believer in behaviour modification. If something is causing a problem then you have to stop doing it. Hazel knows what she's doing Daley could be a bit more assertive and he has a gf; all in all its a complicated situation that turning into compelling viewing.

[Marsh.]

Niamh and Vicky share a guy called Gav? :suspect:

Where do I find these 2 for 1 offers, do you advertise?

[Speedster]

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point


If she WAS his mistress wtf does that say about HIM???? Get this bastard out.:devil:

[anne666]

Yeah we do :laugh:

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?

Exactly. If that was my partner behaving like that I would be over the wall with a good strong scalpel. That would sort out his erection problems :devil:

[Niamh.]

So if Simon Baker was in the house with you asking for hugs you'd be telling him to back off eh? :joker:

I agree that Daley needs to do more but I just cant like what Hazel is doing. Daley has said no on a number of occasions and whether its a man or woman no should mean no; in my mind there is no such thing no means yes.

Also, knowing that hugging someone is making them aroused but still insisting and not taking no for an answer is quite close to harassment. Hazel can do without the occasional hug but she still insists knowing what she's doing to the man. Now its getting more complicated cuz some will argue that she can do what she wants etc and they are right. I'm a believer in behaviour modification. If something is causing a problem then you have to stop doing it. Hazel knows what she's doing Daley could be a bit more assertive and he has a gf; all in all its a complicated situation that turning into compelling viewing.

Listen, Simon Baker is great and all that but he's no Gav :nono:

I'm not saying I like what hazel is doing, I'm saying that she is much less at fault than Daley. Him telling Hazel that she's making him aroused so stop hugging him, is basically him telling her how attractive he finds her, that is not the way to tell someone you don't want their attention.........

[Speedster]

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrr

:flowers: THIS^^^^^ 1OOO% Double standards.

[Speedster]

As smeagol pointed out, well done smeagol, SHE SAID she stole Daley from his ex...on her twitter page. case closed.

He wasn't stolen, he went of hi one FREE WILL:nono:

[Niamh.]

Niamh and Vicky share a guy called Gav? :suspect:

Where do I find these 2 for 1 offers, do you advertise?

:laugh:

I don't share :nono:

Exactly. If that was my partner behaving like that I would be over the wall with a good strong scalpel. That would sort out his erection problems :devil:

haha, yes indeed

:flowers: THIS^^^^^ 1OOO% Double standards.

:love:

Always the way unfortunately

[thesheriff443]

You know what really annoyed me though, was that guy in the audience who said, if Hazel goes this Friday, Daley could go far.............I just couldn't believe the complete double standards and Sexism in that one comment. Now, don't get me wrong, Hazels behavior has been less then admirable but DALEY is the one hurting his g/f, he's the one with the responsibility to behave himself and who is responsible for not hurting his g/f yet that attitude seems to be poor Daley bewitched by the devil woman, boils my blood I swear ggggrrrrrr

poor daley:bawling::joker:

[Vicky.]

:flowers: THIS^^^^^ 1OOO% Double standards.

I dont see that as double standards really..as without Hazel, Daley will go back to being a ghost. The invisible ones always make the final with vote to evict. If it was vote to save, I have no doubt Hazel would outlast Daley.

The double standard thats bothering me is, Daley saying no yet Hazel persisting. If this was the other way round, he would be labelled a sex pest. However because its the woman ignoring the males protests (even if he doesnt seem to mean it, no means no..as men are told) its all hunkydory :bored:

[thesheriff443]

He's crossing a line for sure and I wouldn't be happy about it either if It was my Gav in there but I don't think it's cheating...................yet

if your man is getting an erection over another women then its sexual and that is very close to cheating without full sex

[GiRTh]

Listen, Simon Baker is great and all that but he's no Gav :nono:

I'm not saying I like what hazel is doing, I'm saying that she is much less at fault than Daley. Him telling Hazel that she's making him aroused so stop hugging him, is basically him telling her how attractive he finds her, that is not the way to tell someone you don't want their attention.........
But no means no. I agree he's a walking penis but he has said no and she needs to respect that.

She's a pr*ck tease - I hate that expression but if it was ever apt for one person its her. She's worse the Noirin or Danica. She instigates it, continues it, wont take no for an answer; under different circumstances we'd be calling her a predator. Other girls like Norin and Danica seem incredibly subtle compared to Hazel. He's as much to blame but Hazel is a savvy girl surely she knew how this would be played out and who'd come out of it looking bad.

[Niamh.]

But no means no. I agree he's a walking penis but he has said no and she needs to respect that.

She's a pr*ck tease - I hate that expression but if it was ever apt for one person its her. She's worse the Noirin or Danica. She instigates it, continues it, wont take no for an answer; under different circumstances we'd be calling her a predator. Other girls like Norin and Danica seem incredibly subtle compared to Hazel. He's as much to blame but Hazel is a savvy girl surely she knew how this would be played out and who'd come out of it looking bad.

No means no if all he says is no but he doesn't he tells her she's making him horny basically, that is not saying no. That's just my opinion on it but if he really wanted her to back off he wouldn't be telling her that's his reasoning behind it, he'd be saying no, I don't want to disrespect my g/f, I guarantee she'd have stopped then

[GiRTh]

No means no if all he says is no but he doesn't he tells her she's making him horny basically, that is not saying no. That's just my opinion on it but if he really wanted her to back off he wouldn't be telling her that's his reasoning behind it, he'd be saying no, I don't want to disrespect my g/f, I guarantee she'd have stopped thenAgreed. If he'd have mentioned the gf she'd have stopped but he still said no a number of times.

[anne666]

Why are we now arguing over two skanks??? LOL

[Niamh.]

Just a friendly debate Anne, you devil :laugh:

[anne666]

:devil::devil::devil: Ye sometimes I get caught up in topics and then think what am I doing so that was a thought about myself I suppose !! Iresistible at times though :joker::joker:Just a friendly debate Anne, you devil :laugh:

[DanielLuis]

Even if Katie did the same as Hazel before, it doesn't justify Hazel's actions. Nor Daley's. Their both ridiculous.

[Kyle]

Even if Katie did the same as Hazel before, it doesn't justify Hazel's actions. Nor Daley's. Their both ridiculous.

Exactly.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Daley and Hazel are still out of order but you have to expect this from the type of people who are fully prepared to air their lives on national television.

[armand.kay]

Even if Katie did the same as Hazel before, it doesn't justify Hazel's actions. Nor Daley's. Their both ridiculous.
It's called karma.