Hazel is not Innocent - Encouraging Daley & Supporting him even after the Incident!!!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

She clearly played with fire..Hazel was teasing him along and he had a moment of madness.. no excuse for Daley's actions but Hazel shouldn't get the sympathy vote for getting slapped on the ass or pinned on the bed by the lunatic.

Hazel didn't let him sleep and teased him on purpose....
Hazel was the one who took daley's cover.....
Hazel was the one who poked her ass out of her dress to show daley directly to his face when he went to take back his cover......
After the incident happened and Daley returned she hugged him and said he did nothing wrong?

Hazel is just as bad as Daley so she should have been kicked out as well !!!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

what's you're views?

[GiRTh]

Change the record.

[Jake.]

She really isn't just as bad, didn't hear of her clenching his throat or wacking his backside or threatening to nut him one

[kistar]

I agree entirely.

[reece(:]

Hazel is completely innocent and acted right in the situation, it would have looked worse on her part if she went crying assault. She's a strong woman and obviously knew they'd intervene if he was going to kill her or something.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Change the record.

Why? just because it's your fave hazel? she is just as bad as daley they should be kicked out together !!!:wavey:

[Vicky.]

She was just pissed and made a bad call and thought he was flirting back rather than getting annoyed.

No way will I agree she was anywhere near as bad as him in this. She was harmless. He was an aggressive wanker who couldnt control his irrational anger at losing his blankie(and previously, his anger that his woman didnt jump when he clicked his fingers) :bored:

[fingers]

She thought that she could generate another erection that she could laugh at, but what she got was a drunken madman trying to get his duvet back!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Hazel is completely innocent and acted right in the situation, it would have looked worse on her part if she went crying assault. She's a strong woman and obviously knew they'd intervene if he was going to kill her or something.

haha what?

did you watch live feed? hazel was smiling and giving daley a hug after he came out of the diary room telling him everything is fine nad he had nothing to worry about... hardly a women that is scared more of a cockteaser enjoying her nights work.... :joker:

[smudgie]

Whatever. at least you are not gloating in this post.

[GiRTh]

Why? just because it's your fave hazel? she is just as bad as daley they should be kicked out together !!!:wavey:She isnt a fave any more. I simply think she still has a part to play in the programme.

You post threads claiming Daleys innocence all the time. There not way he can try to strangle a girl and yet be lead on. This thread is absurd.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

She isnt a fave any more. I simply think she still has a part to play in the programme.

You post threads claiming Daleys innocence all the time. There not way he can try to strangle a girl and yet be lead on. This thread is absurd.

my thread clearly states in no way is daley right and in no way do i support his behaviour hence it says he is a lunatic and amadman and quite rightly removed fromt he house.... This thread is more about hazels part in this.... please get the facts right.... :xyxwave: :nono:

[Beso]

haha what?

did you watch live feed? hazel was smiling and giving daley a hug after he came out of the diary room telling him everything is fine nad he had nothing to worry about... hardly a women that is scared more of a cockteaser enjoying her nights work.... :joker:

So why should she be kicked out Einstein?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

So why should she be kicked out Einstein?

Well because this would never have even got to that stage if she just went to sleep without taking daleys covers..... so therefore when she took it she bated him and with her ass out and telling him to go for it obviousely the madman is in no way right but the person who provoked is no way innocent as well.... she is no angel and should face the consequences .... :devil:

[Pink Pegasus]

She was just pissed and made a bad call and thought he was flirting back rather than getting annoyed.

No way will I agree she was anywhere near as bad as him in this. She was harmless. He was an aggressive wanker who couldnt control his irrational anger at losing his blankie(and previously, his anger that his woman didnt jump when he clicked his fingers) :bored:

This. :thumbs:

[Beso]

Well because this would never have even got to that stage if she just went to sleep without taking daleys covers..... so therefore when she took it she bated him and with her ass out and telling him to go for it obviousely the madman is in no way right but the person who provoked is no way innocent as well.... she is no angel and should face the consequences .... :devil:

Do not ever get in a relationship please.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Do not ever get in a relationship please.

Don't worry my personal relationship status won't be displayed on this forum ...... :joker:

[Beso]

Don't worry my personal relationship status won't be displayed on this forum ...... :joker:

You might change your mind by the time they drop.:xyxwave:

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

You might change your mind by the time they drop.:xyxwave:

Nope mate i got it sorted don't worry about it :devil:

[Scream]

So that deserves a slap on the arse and getting strangled, right?

[Jake.]

Well because this would never have even got to that stage if she just went to sleep without taking daleys covers..... so therefore when she took it she bated him and with her ass out and telling him to go for it obviousely the madman is in no way right but the person who provoked is no way innocent as well.... she is no angel and should face the consequences .... :devil:

Daley's a maniac.. if it didn't come out last night, it would have eventually.. the fact you are justifying his behaviour because of Hazel taking his bed sheet as a joke is absurb.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

hazel is no angel lets get that straight.... and on daley no one supports his action the madman clearly lost it but hazel is no angel in this situation. Even after the incident happened she has seen nothing wrong it and gave him a hug. She enjoyed the cock trease and what effect she had on daley by her actions after the incident that is very clear from live feed.

[Beso]

Nope mate i got it sorted don't worry about it :devil:

You sound like a 1970's high court Judge summing up a rape case.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

She clearly played with fire..Hazel was teasing him along and he had a moment of madness.. no excuse for Daley's actions but Hazel shouldn't get the sympathy vote for getting slapped on the ass or pinned on the bed by the lunatic.

Hazel didn't let him sleep and teased him on purpose....
Hazel was the one who took daley's cover.....
Hazel was the one who poked her ass out of her dress to show daley directly to his face when he went to take back his cover......
After the incident happened and Daley returned she hugged him and said he did nothing wrong?

Hazel is just as bad as Daley so she should have been kicked out as well !!!

@Bold please read it....:cat:

[Jake.]

It's not clear from live feed at all given how it was cut off.. completely moronic trying to stick her in the same boat as Daley

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

You sound like a 1970's high court Judge summing up a rape case.

it aint 1970's its called the real world when we use facts as well as video evidence to back up what we have seen.... :elephant:

[CaudleHalbard]

I think they should both have been thrown out.

The whole incident was alcohol-fuelled and completely unnecessary.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

It's not clear from live feed at all given how it was cut off.. completely moronic trying to stick her in the same boat as Daley

what are you trying to say that hazel has done nothing in the safe house to increase daley's sexual tension? please lets get real she is no mother Teresa in their... :joker: granted daley is a madman and no amount of teasing can warrant a man threatening a women but she is not innocent she needs to be held responsible for her cock teasing as well..... :nono:

[smudgie]

hazel is no angel lets get that straight.... and on daley no one supports his action the madman clearly lost it but hazel is no angel in this situation. Even after the incident happened she has seen nothing wrong it and gave him a hug. She enjoyed the cock trease and what effect she had on daley by her actions after the incident that is very clear from live feed.

Is this the live feed that you saw...the one where "she poked her ass out her dress to show Daley where to take aim".Only the live feed I saw she kept her dress intact down to below her knees. I suggest you go and take another look , the vid is on here and shows it quite clearly.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I think they should both have been thrown out.

The whole incident was alcohol-fuelled and completely unnecessary.

^^^^ This, thank you very much totally agree 100 %

[Jake.]

No, she isn't innocent.. but if you believe that being a 'cock tease' condones abuse then I'm done

[smudgie]

it aint 1970's its called the real world when we use facts as well as video evidence to back up what we have seen.... :elephant:

Only you seemed to see a different video evidence to us m'lord.

[Jake.]

I think they should both have been thrown out.

The whole incident was alcohol-fuelled and completely unnecessary.

That's pretty contradictory.. kicking them both out even though you believe it was all down to alcohol and completely unnecessary?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Is this the live feed that you saw...the one where "she poked her ass out her dress to show Daley where to take aim".Only the live feed I saw she kept her dress intact down to below her knees. I suggest you go and take another look , the vid is on here and shows it quite clearly.

oh please i have seen the live feed she was in full flight and cock teasing him by lifting her ass in bed and pushing her ass out... furthermore why did she feel the need to take his covers in the first place? :conf:

[Jake.]

oh please i have seen the live feed she was in full flight and cock teasing him by lifting her ass in bed and pushing her ass out... furthermore why did she feel the need to take his covers in the first place? :conf:

Taking somebody's covers as a joke = acceptable to be smacked hard on the backside, spoken down to and threatened.. okay

[Johnnyuk123]

Callum will be Hazel's next victim.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

No, she isn't innocent.. but if you believe that being a 'cock tease' condones abuse then I'm done

well that's the point of this thread she is not innocent..... as i said earlier no one condones daly's actions but to blame everything on him would be unfair as hazel instigated him and egged him on by saying to him go and do it whatever you want to do.... :cat:

[Beso]

it aint 1970's its called the real world when we use facts as well as video evidence to back up what we have seen.... :elephant:

So what you saw was a woman talking to her pal,then a man basically telling her to shut it and come inside..then the same woman jokingly hide his duvet whilst laying in bed fully clothed with no bare arse in sight...and this deserves being verbally and physically threatened!

[Bridget51]

Whatever. at least you are not gloating in this post.

Exactly. It was obvious ages ago that Daley had some problems - did no one notice the way he stared at her? I abhor any form of abuse and hopefully this will be a lesson to Hazel to desist from cock teasing. Hope she does not get the sympathy vote and is evicted asap. Also hope the house mates are shown exactly what went on in the safe house or Hazel will claim the victim and will not be nominated. The HM's need to see her under the quilt with him etc

[Jake.]

well that's the point of this thread she is not innocent..... as i said earlier no one condones daly's actions but to blame everything on him would be unfair as hazel instigated him and egged him on by saying to him go and do it whatever you want to do.... :cat:

I meant as a person she isn't innocent.. but during the last events, I'm 100% with her as are most.. how can you justify being threatening, whacking somebody, clenching their throat and being speaking down to as a normal reaction to having a bed sheet taken? Because it really isn't, a normal person wouldn't have reacted in that way which is why Daley has been thrown out.

[smudgie]

oh please i have seen the live feed she was in full flight and cock teasing him by lifting her ass in bed and pushing her ass out... furthermore why did she feel the need to take his covers in the first place? :conf:

Oh please as you say, you lied about the live feed in your op.

Taking someone's covers in a play fight does not normally lead to someone slapping your backside and putting their hands around your neck.

Hazel may not be perfect, but she did nothing to warrant her expulsion.

[Livia]

it aint 1970's its called the real world when we use facts as well as video evidence to back up what we have seen.... :elephant:

If you were a High Court Judge, you'd know that you cannot claim verbal provocation as an excuse for laying your hands on someone.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

So what you saw was a woman talking to her pal,then a man basically telling her to shut it and come inside..then the same woman jokingly hide his duvet whilst laying in bed fully clothed with no bare arse in sight...and this deserves being verbally and physically threatened!

No what i saw was a women getting under covers with a man who has a gf and kissing him and then the next night cock teasing him and bating him by taking the bed covers and telling himt o do whatever he wants to take the covers back. Now a lunatic like daley will see this as the green light to do whatever he wishes because she told him yes.... granted what he did was wrong but even after the incident occured the lady in question told him she FOUND NOTHING WRONG in what he did to her and not t worry about it !!! :joker:

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

If you were a High Court Judge, you'd know that you cannot claim verbal provocation as an excuse for laying your hands on someone.

in a court of law daley can claim hazel took his property which were the bed sheets..... its illegal to steal :devil:

[smudgie]

in a court of law daley can claim hazel took his property which were the bed sheets..... its illegal to steal :devil:

:joker::joker::joker::joker:thank goodness, now I know your post was all a joke.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:thank goodness, now I know your post was all a joke.

you're saying Hazel is a joke..... :joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

And still... the woman is criticised more than the man regardless of the actual circumstances.

I'm no fan of Hazel and her actions, but this is about Daley who completely crossed the line.

[Livia]

in a court of law daley can claim hazel took his property which were the bed sheets..... its illegal to steal :devil:

I was right. You're definitely NOT a High Court, or any other kind of judge.

Incidentally, the smileys make your posts looks kind of frantic. Just sayin'...

[Johnnyuk123]

I hope they play adels skyfall tune when showing Dazel tonight. Change the words to... When the guy falls... when he crumbles, if i'm strangled.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I was right. You're definitely NOT a High Court, or any other kind of judge.

Incidentally, the smileys make your posts looks kind of frantic. Just sayin'...

smileys are good don't worry it makes it look unique.... :dance:

[Beso]

No what i saw was a women getting under covers with a man who has a gf and kissing him and then the next night cock teasing him and bating him by taking the bed covers and telling himt o do whatever he wants to take the covers back. Now a lunatic like daley will see this as the green light to do whatever he wishes because she told him yes.... granted what he did was wrong but even after the incident occured the lady in question told him she FOUND NOTHING WRONG in what he did to her and not t worry about it !!! :joker:

So to go back to my original question.....Why should hazel be evicted as well?........ps,you do know that no means no and can be said at any point.

[Videostar]

Hazel clearly didn't deserve any of the nastiness Daley showed her last night, but if she becomes popular over this then theres something truly wrong with the British public.

[Livia]

smileys are good don't worry it makes it look unique.... :dance:

No.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

So to go back to my original question.....Why should hazel be evicted as well?........ps,you do know that no means no and can be said at any point.

she never said no she told daley yes he can do wahtever he wants.....I think you need to read over all posts again cause you're saying he same thing 10 times. My opinion is hazel is as bad as daley for taking the bed sheets and instigating the attack... my views you can't change that.... :wavey:

[smudgie]

you're saying Hazel is a joke..... :joker::joker::joker:

Unless your name is really Hazel........:xyxwave:

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Hazel clearly didn't deserve any of the nastiness Daley showed her last night, but if she becomes popular over this then theres something truly wrong with the British public.

If the public can vote them in the safe house which showed no morals then the public will give her sympathy as well no doubt when she was the cock tease that started it all in the first place.... :nono:

[Jake.]

I hope they play adels skyfall tune when showing Dazel tonight. Change the words to... When the guys fall... when they crumble, if i'm strangled.

Hilarious

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Unless your name is really Hazel........:xyxwave:

Whats the problem Hazelnut you going mad? :devil:

[Beso]

she never said no she told daley yes he can do wahtever he wants.....I think you need to read over all posts again cause you're saying he same thing 10 times. My opinion is hazel is as bad as daley for taking the bed sheets and instigating the attack... my views you can't change that.... :wavey:

You don't know what was said you utter flange,as the sound was cut for fifteen minutes.:nono:

[Jake.]

she never said no she told daley yes he can do wahtever he wants.....I think you need to read over all posts again cause you're saying he same thing 10 times. My opinion is hazel is as bad as daley for taking the bed sheets and instigating the attack... my views you can't change that.... :wavey:

Likewise.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Hazel should just walk out of the house now. she should, to show support for daley. after all she didnt find it so bad....

[Videostar]

If the public can vote them in the safe house which showed no morals then the public will give her sympathy as well no doubt when she was the cock tease that started it all in the first place.... :nono:

Good point, the british public does have a strange sense of morals and logic.

If Josie can win anything can happen.

But Hazel winning? :shocked:

[the truth]

Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle

[Livia]

This thread contains some of the most brainless comments I've seen for... well, ever.

[Jake.]

This thread contains some of the most brainless comments I've seen for... well, ever.

:laugh:

[Johnnyuk123]

Twins are now furious that Dazel have all the air time and are now discussing ideas on how to get the cameras back on them and their massive game plan.

[Jesus.]

OP hits the nail on the head. It's actually all Hazels fault, and any women out there in abusive relationships, you'll be pleased to know it's your fault too.

It's about time people started standing up to these bullying women. Thank you OP.

[Beso]

Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle

He'll get a job with the BBC.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Twins are now furious that Dazel have all the air time and are now discussing ideas on how to get the cameras back on them and their massive game plan.

dumb and dumber make me sick..... :yuk:

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

OP hits the nail on the head. It's actually all Hazels fault, and any women out there in abusive relationships, you'll be pleased to know it's your fault too.

It's about time people started standing up to these bullying women. Thank you OP.

Thank you Jesus, i knew i could count on the Almighty's support..... :spin:

[CaudleHalbard]

Ok sensible hat on! ;)

None of us have actually seen the "strangling" incident and are making assumptions.

If Hazel and Daley were both laughing and joking as it happened, would that make a difference? What if BB panicked?

The fact that Hazel felt Daley had done nothing wrong must also be taken into account otherwise you are disrespecting her view.

[anne666]

she never said no she told daley yes he can do wahtever he wants.....I think you need to read over all posts again cause you're saying he same thing 10 times. My opinion is hazel is as bad as daley for taking the bed sheets and instigating the attack... my views you can't change that.... :wavey:
WHAT?? Stock in trade excuse of many a woman beater.

[the truth]

so why did denise get away with it last year?

[CaudleHalbard]

WHAT?? Stock in trade excuse of many a woman beater.

You have not seen the incident in context and are making assumptions.

[anne666]

This thread contains some of the most brainless comments I've seen for... well, ever.

I agree OMG !!!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Ok sensible hat on! ;)

None of us have actually seen the "strangling" incident and are making assumptions.

If Hazel and Daley were both laughing and joking as it happened, would that make a difference? What if BB panicked?

The fact that Hazel felt Daley had done nothing wrong must also be taken into account otherwise you are disrespecting her view.

if they found it kinky then that would be really strange... let's watch thonights video to see what really happened.... :shocked:

[anne666]

You have not seen the incident in context and are making assumptions.

AND you are stupid if you think that any situation warrants violence.

[Beso]

You have not seen the incident in context and are making assumptions.

As is the opposite go and jump on it.

[anne666]

so why did denise get away with it last year?

So to wrongs do make a right then.

[CaudleHalbard]

AND you are stupid if you think that any situation warrants violence.

Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!

[anne666]

Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!

Sorry not worth bothering OMG

[CaudleHalbard]

Sorry not worth bothering OMG

Probably not - if you are going to take a blinkered view! ;)

[Benjamin]

He's a bit of a lunatic for this and not for a second do I condone it, but she has played countless mind games with him many times, even when he has asked her to leave him alone. She is bad in another sense, let's not let her off the hook entirely.

[the truth]

agreed just because he is awful doesn't make her good by comparison ....shes been despicable too, in a lesser way than him, but still despicable. she played him like a violin though. what a clown.

[Marsh.]

Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle

Wow, a really balanced post. I expected you to pile all blame on Hazel.

But, yes, whilst I don't quite agree with "evil inside" she is not innocent. I don't think anyone would say she is. She has her own questionable behaviour, but Daley needs to take responsibility for his own actions.

I don't agree with all the Hazel led him on and did this and did that, well maybe she did but Daley has his own mind and should accept responsibility for his own behaviour.

In the end, his actions warranted removal and no matter what anyone says Hazel's didn't.

[Jake.]

Wow, a really balanced post. I expected you to pile all blame on Hazel.

But, yes, whilst I don't quite agree with "evil inside" she is not innocent. I don't think anyone would say she is. She has her own questionable behaviour, but Daley needs to take responsibility for his own actions.

I don't agree with all the Hazel led him on and did this and did that, well maybe she did but Daley has his own mind and should accept responsibility for his own behaviour.

In the end, his actions warranted removal and no matter what anyone says Hazel's didn't.

[2]

[Marsh.]

Yeah, whilst Hazel has done wrong, it bugs me how Daley's actions are explained as being mostly Hazel's fault but her actions aren't Daley's fault. They're both responsible. Just to lesser degrees.

[Benjamin]

Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle

Very well put indeed!

[Livia]

Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!

Daley struck her. That is assault.

[anne666]

Daley struck her. That is assault.
Why can some people not grasp that very simple fact?? Who are they defending here? As well as his threatening behaviour !

[CaudleHalbard]

Daley struck her. That is assault.

I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

This ^^^^ :spin:

[anne666]

Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle

This,will she have learned anything from it, I hope so.

[Marsh.]

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

Are you watching the same TV show the rest of the forum are?

Kicking Hazel and Daley out and claiming moral high ground (when what's actually happened between them is questionable) would be highly hypocritical.

If this is where Big Brother draws the line then about 6 years worth of the show would never have made it to air. The show and its producers love controversy, and this current one is tame compared to previous series.

[Livia]

I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

It's a black and white issue: if you strike someone, you are assaulting them. They cannot goad you or provoke you into hitting them. He struck her. That isn't common assault, it's assault. There is no grey area. I am not "conveniently disregarding" anything, I'm telling you the legal interpretation of what happened.

[the truth]

It's a black and white issue: if you strike someone, you are assaulting them. They cannot goad you or provoke you into hitting them. He struck her. That isn't common assault, it's assault. There is no grey area. I am not "conveniently disregarding" anything, I'm telling you the legal interpretation of what happened.

yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?

[Jake.]

yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?

Why would Livia know lol?

[Livia]

yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?

Why indeed.

I think I said at the time I thought she should have been thrown out.

[Livia]

Why would Livia know lol?

My crystal ball is a little cloudy tonight, unfortunately LOL...

[Jake.]

LOL

[the truth]

Why indeed.

I think I said at the time I thought she should have been thrown out.

good girl. were in agreement.

[smeagol]

hazel is dissapointing. thought she was tougher and wiser than she has been.

she was just playing. as you do . but she was playing with fire. he isn't right in the head.
she should of realized that during and backed of. but i guess its different at the time.

im sure they were fine next day

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

hazel is dissapointing. thought she was tougher and wiser than she has been.

she was just playing. as you do . but she was playing with fire. he isn't right in the head.
she should of realized that during and backed of. but i guess its different at the time.

im sure they were fine next day

Hazel knows exactly how to milk this situation in her favour just wait for her act in the next coming days.... :nono:

[hijaxers]

AND you are stupid if you think that any situation warrants violence.

Well what was hazel doing beating daley over the head with a pillow and then holding it over his face ?
Prob is hazel so desp for air time and cash she'll do anything . Gawd only knows why she kept pushing it cos she certainly got a reaction . Not a nice girl

[kistar]

I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

I have to agree , also as a woman you cannot expect to do do anything you fancy without repercussions, smacking her on the arse is not violence and if we start screaming at the top of our voices that it might be then the real incidences surely lose their significance. Sometimes I think Woman have to take ownership of their part in situations. Respect to all people though it is an opinion I am not saying it is right for everyone.

[Videostar]

Twins are now furious that Dazel have all the air time and are now discussing ideas on how to get the cameras back on them and their massive game plan.

Joe should hit Jack, and Jack should hit Joe...repeatedly. :devil:

[Johnnyuk123]

It was Daley who wandered into the witches lair. It was Daley who chased Hazel knowing full well that he has a GF on the outside (he confessed his love for Kate on week 1 in the diary room) It was Daley who poured countless beers down his neck last night. It was Daley who pinned her to the bed, grabbed her by the throat and we all know what he said leading up to that. No sympathy for him here.

[Johnnyuk123]

Joe should hit Jack, and Jack should hit Joe...repeatedly. :devil:

Then bb calls them to the diary room and evicts them both! result! :joker:

[Videostar]

Then bb calls them to the diary room and evicts them both! result! :joker:

Great entertainment for us all and they get evicted, it's a win/win situation. :elephant:

[Amy Jade]

Really? I view her actions as totally innocent opposed to Daley's in this situation.

He slapped her and gripped her around the throat, that's seriously horrible and yeah she did flirt with him and tell him it was ok afterwards but that never makes it ok, that's like saying it's ok for a person to beat up their other half if the person is fine with it afterwards.

[anne666]

Probably not - if you are going to take a blinkered view! ;)
Do you not understand the legal definition of assault ???

[Pink Pegasus]

It was Daley who wandered into the witches lair. It was Daley who chased Hazel knowing full well that he has a GF on the outside (he confessed his love for Kate on week 1 in the diary room) It was Daley who poured countless beers down his neck last night. It was Daley who pinned her to the bed, grabbed her by the throat and we all know what he said leading up to that. No sympathy for him here.

I agree with everything except the countless beers things.
Hazel said to him last night that he shouldn't be so drunk on:

"2 glasses of champagne and a mojito".

He didn't say that he had anything more than that. He certainly looked drunk to me but I can't understand how he could be so drunk on so little. He seemed sober going to the diary room. Maybe he wasn't as drunk as he was making out to be?

[Johnnyuk123]

I agree with everything except the countless beers things.
Hazel said to him last night that he shouldn't be so drunk on:

"2 glasses of champagne and a mojito".

He didn't say that he had anything more than that. He certainly looked drunk to me but I can't understand how he could be so drunk on so little. He seemed sober going to the diary room. Maybe he wasn't as drunk as he was making out to be?

Point taken, i did read on another thread he was drunk, and drunk is more than a few glasses of champers, not to worry he's out now.

[Niamh.]

She was just pissed and made a bad call and thought he was flirting back rather than getting annoyed.

No way will I agree she was anywhere near as bad as him in this. She was harmless. He was an aggressive wanker who couldnt control his irrational anger at losing his blankie(and previously, his anger that his woman didnt jump when he clicked his fingers) :bored:

Yeah this ^ It seems like she thought they were both playing when he was actually really turning a bit psycho......

[Pink Pegasus]

Point taken, i did read on another thread he was drunk, and drunk is more than a few glasses of champers, not to worry he's out now.

Yeah everyone seems to think he was really really drunk, I thought so too myself by watching them that they both seemed very drunk until he went to diary room. Maybe Hazel just got the amount he drank wrong.
I'm glad he's gone too. :-)

[Livia]

I have to agree , also as a woman you cannot expect to do do anything you fancy without repercussions, smacking her on the arse is not violence and if we start screaming at the top of our voices that it might be then the real incidences surely lose their significance. Sometimes I think Woman have to take ownership of their part in situations. Respect to all people though it is an opinion I am not saying it is right for everyone.

Again... it is assault. If you're going to let that slip, where exactly are you going to draw the line?

Whatever Hazel did, it does not justify her being struck.

[Amy Jade]

Again... it is assault. If you're going to let that slip, where exactly are you going to draw the line?

Whatever Hazel did, it does not justify her being struck.
This so much tbh.

[the truth]

Really? I view her actions as totally innocent opposed to Daley's in this situation.

He slapped her and gripped her around the throat, that's seriously horrible and yeah she did flirt with him and tell him it was ok afterwards but that never makes it ok, that's like saying it's ok for a person to beat up their other half if the person is fine with it afterwards.

why compare them? everyone agrees hes a tw*t who deserves to be booted
but she has to be judged too in her own right
she went after a man who has a steady girlfriend and child by her, on national tv just to earn herself media coverage and make easy money, she is a lowlife.

[Johnnyuk123]

Hazel could walk around starkers and give him the old come to bed eyes 24/7. He still does not have the right to do what he did.

[the truth]

Hazel could walk around starkers and give him the old come to bed eyes 24/7. He still does not have the right to do what he did.

I agree, everyone agrees, so why are you still saying that? were talking about the fact hazel has still behaved badly in all this. also this proves her taste in men is awful. ps how do we know if she has a boyfriend or not?

[hijaxers]

I agree, everyone agrees, so why are you still saying that? were talking about the fact hazel has still behaved badly in all this. also this proves her taste in men is awful. ps how do we know if she has a boyfriend or not?

I thought we were all aware on day 1 that Hazels previous BF committed suicide :conf:

[Niamh.]

why compare them? everyone agrees hes a tw*t who deserves to be booted
but she has to be judged too in her own right
she went after a man who has a steady girlfriend and child by her, on national tv just to earn herself media coverage and make easy money, she is a lowlife.

He doesn't have a child with Katie, his child is with a previous g/f

[letmein]

She clearly played with fire..Hazel was teasing him along and he had a moment of madness.. no excuse for Daley's actions but Hazel shouldn't get the sympathy vote for getting slapped on the ass or pinned on the bed by the lunatic.

Hazel didn't let him sleep and teased him on purpose....
Hazel was the one who took daley's cover.....
Hazel was the one who poked her ass out of her dress to show daley directly to his face when he went to take back his cover......
After the incident happened and Daley returned she hugged him and said he did nothing wrong?

Hazel is just as bad as Daley so she should have been kicked out as well !!!

Spoken like every rapist and wife beater.

[armand.kay]

Lord they can't kick them all out ****ing hell D: I can't and won't deal with 2 replacements

[Marsh.]

I have to agree , also as a woman you cannot expect to do do anything you fancy without repercussions, smacking her on the arse is not violence and if we start screaming at the top of our voices that it might be then the real incidences surely lose their significance. Sometimes I think Woman have to take ownership of their part in situations. Respect to all people though it is an opinion I am not saying it is right for everyone.

But then when someone is slapped in the face and they are punished for it do you not enter a grey area?

How is slapping someone hard on the arse, hurting them, different to slapping them in the face or any other body part? It's assault.

Also, it's not just that incident, but pinning her down, grabbing her by the throat and using threatening language with the way he warned her he "would get scary".

[kistar]

Because it isn't slapping her in the face is it and if she sensationalised the slap on the arse when she complains about him punching her on the nose will she taken as seriously?Especially when she was playing around with him in the minutes before it all happened, I just find it really uncomfortable when women start throwing words like assault into the mix in this kind of situation. It's all about perception.

[Livia]

Because it isn't slapping her in the face is it and if she sensationalised the slap on the arse when she complains about him punching her on the nose will she taken as seriously?Especially when she was playing around with him in the minutes before it all happened, I just find it really uncomfortable when women start throwing words like assault into the mix in this kind of situation. It's all about perception.

The reason people are throwing around the word 'assault' is that in the eyes of the law, what happened WAS assault. He struck her. I don't know how many more times I have to say this. It is a plain, simple and very clear cut case of assault. There are no mitigating circumstances, you can't do anything to anyone that will justify them striking you. The only time you can strike another person is in self-defence. That is what the law says and it doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not. There is no need for perception in this case, the whole incident was caught on camera.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Just watching highlights show and i can clearly see they are having kinky fun according to the precap... and it seems hazel spanked daleys ass first...... well well well

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

hazel was loving it she was egging him on for sure !!! she should be evicted as well why she got no warning?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Yes Thank you big brother for the formal warning !!!! but you should have removed her as well !!!

[kistar]

So she says she feels threatened and cornered by him and afterwards she cuddles him and laughs about it, the "law"says it's assault , Hazel thinks it's funny.

[CaudleHalbard]

Technically Hazel and Daley assaulted each other. In fact Hazel would be regarded as having indecently assaulted Daley.

Both should have been booted.

[RodHull]

For the record I cant stand Hazel, I think shes a pricktease and totally calculating in the way she manipulates people... BUT

What he did to her on tonights HLs was totally unacceptable. What was worse was how he didnt even see where his actions crossed from being rowdy playfighting into full on threatening psycho s**t.

Up until he got the duvet back it was just about on the right side of acceptable, it was borderline but he could have survived that. After that it went very wrong very quickly. When he called her 'little girl' put his hand round her throat and pinned her to the bed even without the threat it was beyond acceptable. You could tell she was scared as well, her behaviour totally changed when he was looming over her she was pretty much frozen probably desperate for BB to intervene.

Only thing she was guilty of in it all was misreading a situation. She thought it was all in jest and she went a little far with the shorts thing but it does not excuse his reaction. Or his failure to see how it wasnt right.

A couple of questions remain... first why did she sort of defend him afterward when she was clearly scared. Secondly what the hell did he mean when he suddenly launched into a tirade about her being devious when he got the boot??

[Marsh.]

Because it isn't slapping her in the face is it and if she sensationalised the slap on the arse when she complains about him punching her on the nose will she taken as seriously?Especially when she was playing around with him in the minutes before it all happened, I just find it really uncomfortable when women start throwing words like assault into the mix in this kind of situation. It's all about perception.

Hazel never said she was assaulted. I used that word because technically that's what it was.

I never said it was "slapping her in the face". I said if Big Brother has rules about housemates physically "assaulting" each other and one housemate was reprimanded when he strikes another in the face, but someone isn't reprimanded for striking another on the arse then it creates a double standard.

You can't say a slap on the arse is different to one in the face because where do you draw the line? What about a slap on the leg, the arm?

If BB has rules, they have to stick to them and not pick and choose which body part it applies to.

[sedecrem]

Hazel played him like a fiddle, she had her game plan from DAY ONE and Gina knew it!!! When Daley said "I'll finish you!" Hazel said, "I'll finish you quicker" she knew exactly what she was doing and which buttons to press to trigger a response. Like she said herself she is EVIL INSIDE!!!!

[Johnnyuk123]

On the plus side Daley can now see to his erection in his hotel room away from the cameras.

[Supermum]

Hazel played him like a fiddle, she had her game plan from DAY ONE and Gina knew it!!! When Daley said "I'll finish you!" Hazel said, "I'll finish you quicker" she knew exactly what she was doing and which buttons to press to trigger a response. Like she said herself she is EVIL INSIDE!!!!

CORRECT!!!

[smeagol]

they were having fun she wanted him he was in bad mood. then he got serious and took it to far he crossed the line from fun to psycho.. there is no reason for that or excuse
blaming her is just silly, all he had to do was play or be nice not go psycho.
thats the last thing she wanted or expected.

[RodHull]

Sorry this is disgusting, yeah shes an evil manipulative witch but what he did is totally bang out of order. People defending him need to have a word with themselves imo

[Beso]

I just want to say the only reason hazel said that he had done nothing wrong when he asked her was because she was **** scared..carry on,cause you people are seriously flawed.

[Niamh.]

For the record I cant stand Hazel, I think shes a pricktease and totally calculating in the way she manipulates people... BUT

What he did to her on tonights HLs was totally unacceptable. What was worse was how he didnt even see where his actions crossed from being rowdy playfighting into full on threatening psycho s**t.

Up until he got the duvet back it was just about on the right side of acceptable, it was borderline but he could have survived that. After that it went very wrong very quickly. When he called her 'little girl' put his hand round her throat and pinned her to the bed even without the threat it was beyond acceptable. You could tell she was scared as well, her behaviour totally changed when he was looming over her she was pretty much frozen probably desperate for BB to intervene.

Only thing she was guilty of in it all was misreading a situation. She thought it was all in jest and she went a little far with the shorts thing but it does not excuse his reaction. Or his failure to see how it wasnt right.

A couple of questions remain... first why did she sort of defend him afterward when she was clearly scared. Secondly what the hell did he mean when he suddenly launched into a tirade about her being devious when he got the boot??

Spot on.

[Livia]

Some of the archaic, misogynistic comments on this thread remind me why trial by jury is not ideal. Because people can be sooooo stupid.

[reece(:]

Some of the archaic, misogynistic comments on this thread remind me while trial by jury is not ideal. Because people can be sooooo stupid.
Some people have really shown themselves up in this thread.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Hazel played him like a fiddle, she had her game plan from DAY ONE and Gina knew it!!! When Daley said "I'll finish you!" Hazel said, "I'll finish you quicker" she knew exactly what she was doing and which buttons to press to trigger a response. Like she said herself she is EVIL INSIDE!!!!

Pure Evil i agree.

[anne666]

Some of the archaic, misogynistic comments on this thread remind me why trial by jury is not ideal. Because people can be sooooo stupid.

I couldn't agree more.I will add . Incapable of any objectivity and awareness.Well yes stupid covers that.

[anne666]

Pure Evil i agree.

Lets get out the ducking stool and prove it. What century are we living in?

[Vicky.]

Hazel played him like a fiddle, she had her game plan from DAY ONE and Gina knew it!!! When Daley said "I'll finish you!" Hazel said, "I'll finish you quicker" she knew exactly what she was doing and which buttons to press to trigger a response. Like she said herself she is EVIL INSIDE!!!!

I think the response she was after at that point..was for him to kiss her and so on.

Not for him to turn like that.

[Niamh.]

I think the response she was after at that point..was for him to kiss her and so on.

Not for him to turn like that.

Yeah, it looked like she meant finish him in a sexual sense to me

[anne666]

Yeah, it looked like she meant finish him in a sexual sense to me
Yes I thought that too. I am laughing at some of the anti Hazel comments on here. So many suggesting that men or Daley in particular have no sexual control whatsoever and are putty, or rather NOT, in the hands of women, hilarious !!!

[Niamh.]

Yes I thought that too. I am laughing at some of the anti Hazel comments on here. So many suggesting that men or Daley in particular have no sexual control whatsoever and are putty, or rather NOT, in the hands of women, hilarious !!!

Yeah, God help us all if no man can control himself around a beautiful woman, we'd all be with cheaters

[Novo]

you are all with Cheaters.. it's just that some of you are with the ones that haven't been honest yet :pipe:

[GiRTh]

you are all with Cheaters.. it's just that some of you are with the ones that haven't been honest yet :pipe::joker:

[Niamh.]

you are all with Cheaters.. it's just that some of you are with the ones that haven't been honest yet :pipe:

My Gav is perfect, excuse your cheek :nono:

[Cherie]

My Gav is perfect, excuse your cheek :nono:

All this going out for a run, perfect excuse to return red and sweaty.:joker:

[Niamh.]

All this going out for a run, perfect excuse to return red and sweaty.:joker:

Cherie :nono:

[Cherie]

Sorry Niamh couldn't resist. :laugh:

[amu]

I really dislike Hazel and I agree, she should have been kicked out for her psychological terrorism.