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smeagol
17-07-2013, 07:44 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/17/big-brother-daley-interview-emma-willis_n_3609796.html

Im_Juz_ChiLLin
17-07-2013, 07:48 PM
No - there's two sides to every story

smudgie
17-07-2013, 07:48 PM
Nearly 70% voted yes.

I would say not so much soft as diabolical.

smeagol
17-07-2013, 07:49 PM
if scroll down theres some good best of bb videos actually if you fancy a trip down memory lane

GiRTh
17-07-2013, 07:50 PM
Yes. Now I;ve seen the lead up to the incident, Daley was out of control long before Hazel even came into the bedroom. The show cannot condone Daley behavior given the footage.

Withano
17-07-2013, 07:58 PM
Absolutely. Trying to shift blame on to Hazel as well as if she wanted to be grabbed round the neck and as if she wanted to be told that she would get "nutted one" and she'll get "finished"

He barely deserved an interview, let alone respect, let alone the truck load of remorse.

steviebhoy
17-07-2013, 08:05 PM
No she wasn't, she was emphasising there is two sides to a story,

Daley apologised for his actions, which i don't condone, but Emma like most sane minded people seen it for what it was and imo was allowing Daley his right to reply without demonising him!!

kefln
17-07-2013, 08:07 PM
The interview made it sound like he had been kicked out of the house for cheating.

His "apology" was so general as to be meaningless. And his only mention of hazel, the person he was kicked out for threatening, was a picture of pure hate.

A total white wash. Just a vehicle for getting some daley sympathy and hazel blame.

kefln
17-07-2013, 08:10 PM
No she wasn't, she was emphasising there is two sides to a story,

Daley apologised for his actions, which i don't condone, but Emma like most sane minded people seen it for what it was and imo was allowing Daley his right to reply without demonising him!!

But he didnt apologise for his actions. He apologised for causing offence. Then got angry at the mention of hazels name.

Major difference there

user104658
17-07-2013, 08:25 PM
Rewatching it, it really is awful. The worst part isn't even the "two to tango" comment which has (pathetically) been backtracked on, with them now claiming she meant with the flirting. Which is utter nonsense. She quite clearly meant that they were both responsible for the situation getting out of hand in the safe house.

No, the worst part for me is this: "Hazel was willing to flirt till her heart was content". That comment is really loaded with blame... she might as well have said "She was being a slag so she was asking for it". Which is what a lot of people seem to think. I think Emma really revealed her own thoughts with that comment... most of the interview was clearly lead / staged but the exact phrasing won't have been scripted for her, and the way she's said it reveals a lot, I think she showed blatant bias. She didn't need to rip into him and vilify him, she just needed to be balanced, and she wasn't... she outright gave 50/50 "blame" to Hazel and allowed him to blame her and practically spit out her name without even commenting on the look on his face.

It's a shame because I really liked her as a presenter up until now... and there's a massive question mark over her now, for me. And that aside she showed her inexperience by not even asking the right questions - even if she WANTED to show him in a "redeeming" light she should have asked things like "Was it just that you were still playing and took the game to another level, but possibly she didn't realise your intentions and got scared?". He'd probably have been like "Hmm yeah... maybe it is that" because I personally think that's exactly what happened. Doesn't excuse him because you don't engage in that sort of "rough play" without being 100% sure that the other person knows the score and is OK with it / enjoys it. He didn't know, she wasn't OK, and he scared her. Completely his fault. The lead up to it / other flirting that went on is totally irrelevant.

kate2013
17-07-2013, 08:31 PM
Yes the interview was to soft. Daley apologised for if he caused an offense, there is no if about it, is is completely unacceptable to grab a woman by her throat, pin her to the bed and threaten to nut her, Do you understand this Daley? Is what should have been said. I think the conversation went the way it did because Daley had been advised by his PR as what to say, he was emotionally upset and his partner was in the vicinity, and BB were feeing responsible for the fall out because they had set the scene for where the incident took place, making Daley and Hazel an option for the safe house after interviewing Katie.. With no one willing to be honest about where they went wrong and the impact it had you was never going to get a worthwhile interview. Theres too much money to be made in spin off's and tabloids to care about "right and wrong."

user104658
17-07-2013, 08:32 PM
But he didnt apologise for his actions. He apologised for causing offence. Then got angry at the mention of hazels name.

Major difference there

This is true, he was very clearly NOT saying sorry to Hazel. He doesn't even believe that he actually scared her. I think he might start to believe it if he watches yesterdays' Highlights show because, actually, she was pretty balanced about the whole thing and didn't make him out to be a monster at all, even saying that he didn't deserve to be kicked out like that.

I think at the point of the Emma Willis interview, all he was going on was Big Brother telling him that Hazel had said she felt threatened, and he got completely the wrong end of the stick there - he thought they were saying she specifically went and complained about him to get him kicked out, so he was pissed off about that. When in reality, they called her and ASKED if she had felt intimidated, and she was honest and said "yes". I don't think she expected him to be kicked out or wanted him to be kicked out, just that saying "no" would have been an outright lie.

Plus he was clearly blaming her for "tempting him away" and ruining his relationship with his girlfriend... regardless of the safehouse incident. Which I do think is utterly pathetic. Only a very weak person would blame someone else for their own unfaithfulness. It's not that difficult. All you have to say is "no, I have someone who I love, I'm not interested". It's frankly insulting to other men to suggest that we're somehow "powerless" against the advances of women.

CaudleHalbard
17-07-2013, 08:34 PM
I said before I even saw the interview that Emma wasn't the right person for the job.

If this has an impact on her career, I'll bet Rylan and AJ are salivating at the thought of becoming main presenter! ;)

user104658
17-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Yes the interview was to soft. Daley apologised for if he caused an offense, there is no if about it, is is completely unacceptable to grab a woman by her throat, pin her to the bed and threaten to nut her, Do you understand this Daley?

He clearly doesn't; "If I'm in the wrong, I'm sorry"

That was his "apology". But it isn't an actual apology, if you look at it. What he's really saying is "I don't think I'm in the wrong, but I'm sorry that OTHERS took it the WRONG way". He's not only passing the blame onto Hazel, but also onto anyone who viewed it and thought it wasn't acceptable. He's not apologising, he's just stating "you are wrong about me".

rionablue
17-07-2013, 08:39 PM
I always thought Emma was great at her job and was delighted she got the job this year even though Brian was good also. Last night I sat there totally and utterly dumbfounded when Emma was saying it takes two they shouldnt be biased there was another person Hazel to blame for things spiralling out of control. Presenters should be totally unbiased and her job was to interview a guy who had threatened a woman. She should have kept her mouth shut about her opinions and let the people decide. Daley could NOT even bring himself to speak about Hazel and his look showed that he thought she was clearly to blame for everything. What a creep and I sincerely hope Emma has read some of the comments the general public made about her absolutely disgraceful interview. Shame on you Emma. Even bloody AJ is better !!!!!!!

Patrick
17-07-2013, 08:39 PM
If Daley had of been a **** in the interview, then she would of been harsher in the questions.

But he wasn't. He took it on the chin and apologized. What the hell do you people want her to do?

user104658
17-07-2013, 08:40 PM
I said before I even saw the interview that Emma wasn't the right person for the job.

If this has an impact on her career, I'll bet Rylan and AJ are salivating at the thought of becoming main presenter! ;)

Neither can carry the main show, Rylan makes a quite good Bots presenter, he's a good choice I think, but he's played it for laughs for his whole career so far so that's the sort of show he belongs on. If it does mean she's out (I don't think it will, but if it does) they'd do well to get someone with much more experience. Emma Willis was very much thrown in at the deep end, to be honest. Although their budget probably wouldn't allow them to get a good, experienced presenter.

Even good ol' Davina would have handled the interview much more skillfully, and she's not the greatest interviewer in the world. Can you imagine Daley in a proper interview with a big name interviewer? He'd crumble like wet tissue paper.

rionablue
17-07-2013, 08:42 PM
He soooooooooo didnt take it on the bloody chin. It was all a bloody act and what the HELL was his girfriend thinking of coming alont to SUPPORT him. I believe she has a young child. If I were her I would run a mile from that arrogant violent man and keep her little child safe. She came across so well in her interview a few weeks ago and I felt so sorry for her at what had happened in the house. She said she was probably going to move away with her child. Surely surely she cant condone what that pig did!!!!!!

CaudleHalbard
17-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Daley and Emma had both been prepared by their respective "sides".

Emma was in a no win situation really.

Linto99
17-07-2013, 08:47 PM
Rewatching it, it really is awful. The worst part isn't even the "two to tango" comment which has (pathetically) been backtracked on, with them now claiming she meant with the flirting. Which is utter nonsense. She quite clearly meant that they were both responsible for the situation getting out of hand in the safe house.

No, the worst part for me is this: "Hazel was willing to flirt till her heart was content". That comment is really loaded with blame... she might as well have said "She was being a slag so she was asking for it". Which is what a lot of people seem to think. I think Emma really revealed her own thoughts with that comment... most of the interview was clearly lead / staged but the exact phrasing won't have been scripted for her, and the way she's said it reveals a lot, I think she showed blatant bias. She didn't need to rip into him and vilify him, she just needed to be balanced, and she wasn't... she outright gave 50/50 "blame" to Hazel and allowed him to blame her and practically spit out her name without even commenting on the look on his face.

It's a shame because I really liked her as a presenter up until now... and there's a massive question mark over her now, for me. And that aside she showed her inexperience by not even asking the right questions - even if she WANTED to show him in a "redeeming" light she should have asked things like "Was it just that you were still playing and took the game to another level, but possibly she didn't realise your intentions and got scared?". He'd probably have been like "Hmm yeah... maybe it is that" because I personally think that's exactly what happened. Doesn't excuse him because you don't engage in that sort of "rough play" without being 100% sure that the other person knows the score and is OK with it / enjoys it. He didn't know, she wasn't OK, and he scared her. Completely his fault. The lead up to it / other flirting that went on is totally irrelevant.

Great post, 100% agree!!!

GypsyGoth
17-07-2013, 09:00 PM
I used to really admire Emma, I don't any more.

EddieF
17-07-2013, 09:01 PM
Who that?

Livia
17-07-2013, 09:03 PM
I don't think he should have been given an interview at all. He's said all he wanted to say in the newspaper. I say "newspaper"... you know what I mean.

smudgie
17-07-2013, 10:17 PM
I don't think he should have been given an interview at all. He's said all he wanted to say in the newspaper. I say "newspaper"... you know what I mean.

Well, if I ran out of loo roll I would not use that paper to wipe my ass.

CaudleHalbard
17-07-2013, 10:33 PM
Well Emma certainly dismissed the criticism of her on BOTS.

smudgie
17-07-2013, 10:35 PM
Well Emma certainly dismissed the criticism of her on BOTS.

Yeah, in her own mind. It will not do anything to change people opinions of the interview in general.
Such a shame. Emma made BOTS worth watching.

CaudleHalbard
17-07-2013, 10:46 PM
I expect her bosses are happy enough. They will have approved what she had to say today before she said it.

From her point of view that's what matters rather than random comments from anonymous folk on the internet.

smudgie
17-07-2013, 10:51 PM
I expect her bosses are happy enough. They will have approved what she had to say today before she said it.

From her point of view that's what matters rather than random comments from anonymous folk on the internet.

Very true. Then again, it mattered enough for her to feel the need to mention it.

kefln
17-07-2013, 11:03 PM
I expect her bosses are happy enough. They will have approved what she had to say today before she said it.

From her point of view that's what matters rather than random comments from anonymous folk on the internet.

Those random anonymous folk are the fans. And without them the show would cease to exist.

Its true that the daley fans would have a huge percentage of teenage girls, and they have to be appleased. But there are alot of BB fans, like myself, who have watched the show since week 1, series 1. They should be looking out for them too.

In truth all they care about is the ratings. Scandal means viewers. Hazel hate means more hate voting. Sad but true.

Jack_
17-07-2013, 11:26 PM
If Daley had of been a **** in the interview, then she would of been harsher in the questions.

But he wasn't. He took it on the chin and apologized. What the hell do you people want her to do?

Some people seem to think it's Newsnight and she's Jeremy Paxman

I keep reiterating something I feared before the interview had even been confirmed...can you imagine how much of a car crash it would've been had AJ and Rylan done it? I mean seriously...

MTVN
17-07-2013, 11:29 PM
Until I read that article I'd forgotten about her saying ""Hazel was willing to flirt till her heart was content. This is in no way a 'This is all your fault'"; that really is a pretty bad thing to say. Maybe it's just her wording of things, because I'm sure she doesn't condone Daley's actions at all and to some extent she was guided on what to ask, but she really should have put him under greater scrutiny imo

smeagol
18-07-2013, 07:42 AM
Until I read that article I'd forgotten about her saying ""Hazel was willing to flirt till her heart was content. This is in no way a 'This is all your fault'"; that really is a pretty bad thing to say. Maybe it's just her wording of things, because I'm sure she doesn't condone Daley's actions at all and to some extent she was guided on what to ask, but she really should have put him under greater scrutiny imo

yeah that first part is the main thing that was wrong. not really the two to tango for me. she knows it she just wont say on national tv.

arista
18-07-2013, 07:58 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1248097/thumbs/o-DALEY-BIG-BROTHER-570.jpg?10


She was gentle as Daley was about to start crying.