What was Dan hoping to achieve by entering BB?

[alex_front2]

Dan quit his high profile police job working on Operation Yewtree to do BB.
He seemed to be very good at his job and promoted fairly early in his career. So why quit? If he found the nature of Yewtree distressing why not just move to a different area of policing or take a sabbatical.

He obviously saw £100K BB prize as a huge incentive, but he's not sat on the fence a la Sam or been an OTT stand out large fan-base HM like Dexter or Gina (even though he's one of the more talkative HM). Dan seems to be someone who spends a lot of time strategising, trying to work things out.
Obviously he doesn't know the twist, but surely he must realise the only people he could stay in over in a nomination battle are Callum and Hazel.

If he doesn't win - which WE know is a strong possibility - will Dan regret leaving the force, or is he trying to forge some sort of showbiz career?

[Nedusa]

I think he wants to promote his Bisexuality.......come out of both closets at the same time

[Vicky.]

Think he (mistakenly) believes that BB still brings fame.

[alex_front2]

I think he wants to promote his Bisexuality.......come out of both closets at the same time

I think Dan is 100% gay but gets a stiffy from Hazel. He's Hazel-sexual.

[Patrick]

He said himself the force wasn't for him and he didn't feel comfortable in it.

[Pronshi]

I think Dan thought he would win no doubt in his mind.
Think that is why he overreacted to being up weeks ago.
I think he thinks he is gonna win.

[smeagol]

he said he wants to be a actor. he is hoping it leads to stuff lol bless him

[Kizzy]

It is a challenge, and dan seem the kind to want to be constantly challenged physically and emotionally.
It is a fabulous experience and one that I think most would love to have as it tests you as a person, if it leads to a career too then that would be a bonus I guess.

[alex_front2]

Think he (mistakenly) believes that BB still brings fame.

The only person who will get legit fame post BB is Hazel.

She will feed off Daley ejection story before hooking up Calum Best and ditching him for a C-list Premier League footballer (probably someone like Yannick Bolasie from Crystal Palace or Nathan Dyer at Swansea FC). Being Irish she comes with additional nation interest (the Daley story made into into several high profile Irish paper and blogs). She will do plenty of lads mags, lingerie shoots and the inevitable 'Hazel's first time topless* shoot in FHM'. She will re-ignite a feud with Georgia Salpa and end up getting into pre-planned Twitter spats with:


Jodie Marsh
Sallie Axl
Orlaith BB6
Tulisa
Anyone brunette from TOWIE
Anyone from Geordie Shore


She will try and fail to hang out with mega star Cara Dehowdidshhebecomefamous and attempt to be linked/ beard for Harry Styles.




*except she's got her boobs out already but this will be conveniently forgotten

[fingers]

Dan sort of hinted that he thinks this will be a springboard to set off a Gay entertainment career and he already mentioned that any money he can get from BB including a PART of the Prize Fund will be needed to fund his (at the moment) non existent, "career".

[Withano]

Half the people on here would probably leave their job to go on BB.

[joeysteele]

Why does anyone go on to BB,for likely several reasons,not just one.He indicated working on the Jimmy Saville case had been distressing for him, even as a Detective.
So BB was maybe a chance to get away from that and then go on for the experience, as a test to himself, the possible hope that it may lead to something else and also the possibility you might win and gain some security.
As well as meeting some new people.

He probably isn't that different to most that have gone on if they are all truthful about it..

[CaudleHalbard]

He said himself the force wasn't for him and he didn't feel comfortable in it.

But took over 10 years to realise it!

I have a feeling his career was going nowhere in the force. He may have had aspirations for promotion to Detective Sergeant, but could have been told he wasn't up to it........ too paranoid! ;)

[alex_front2]

But took over 10 years to realise it!

I have a feeling his career was going nowhere in the force. He may have had aspirations for promotion to Detective Sergeant, but could have been told he wasn't up to it........ too paranoid! ;)

But his career was doing well in relation to his age. Loads of 33 police folk are still officers etc.

[Josy]

I'm sure he said he never actually left his job to go on BB he had already left before that.

[joeysteele]

But took over 10 years to realise it!

I have a feeling his career was going nowhere in the force. He may have had aspirations for promotion to Detective Sergeant, but could have been told he wasn't up to it........ too paranoid! ;)

Well to have got to DC in 10 years is pretty good going for someone not up to the job and still only 33 now.
I know loads of Police officers who can never get past uniform.
Just to set the record straight a bit more fairly.

Many people in jobs get sick of them after a good while, he didn't say he was sick of the job, he indicated that he had found this case he had been working on, the Jimmy Saville case,too distressing.

There are some things that draw a line for people no matter what jobs they may be doing.

[fingers]

I'm sure he said he never actually left his job to go on BB he had already left before that.

Well he may also have said that, but he definitely said he left to go on the show, can't remember when he said that, though.

[joeysteele]

We would need to hear from Dan as to his personal reasons for leaving anyway, however my guess is he was distressed as he said, I have no reason to doubt that, I would have liekly been too,with the Jimmy Saville enquiry.
It is likely he wanted a good break from the force, he wanted to go on BB, the fuss from the Police when he went in was likely because he was given a choice leave the force or go on BB, not have both.
Or something along those lines.
The prize money of £100,000 max, if no money splits occur, is not that much really,as a Detective he would earn pretty good money in fact.

He chose to leave and go on BB clearly though.

[rusticgal]

Crimewatch presenter...

[alex_front2]

Crimewatch presenter...

Would not be surprised if goes the Rav root

[fingers]

Would not be surprised if goes the Rav root

He'd better change his hairdresser!

[alex_front2]

route!

[CaudleHalbard]

If he had been told at an annual appraisal that there was little prospect in the foreseeable future of making DS, I would think that could have an impact.

But for someone to give up a job paying (with his seniority) about £40k a year is a big deal, especially if you have no alternative career path planned.

It's not as if all he was losing was JSA - as with a lot of HMs past and present. Lol! ;)

[kistar]

Maybe he just wanted to be liked and accepted for being gorgeous and gay .

[CaudleHalbard]

Maybe he just wanted to be liked and accepted for being gorgeous and gay .

Shouldn't have gone into the police then! :D

[erinp5]

He has a childrens range he wants to promote he called it Sookie.

[fingers]

He has a childrens range he wants to promote he called it Sookie.

Where? When?

[jet]

A woman guest on BOTS a few nights ago(can't remember who) said Dan would make a great actor in a detective film or drama - that he had the good looks and persona for that. The funny thing was I'd been thinking the same thing earlier.
I'd love to see him on screen in a gritty detective drama! :cool:

Dan obviously wanted a career change which happens a lot in the early 30's age group and this probably coincided with him always having wanted to do BB, so it was good timing for him.
Why did the other dozen HM's want to do BB? No one is asking that, so I don't know why it would be asked of Dan specifically.

[erinp5]

Where? When?

He spoke about it to the twins on night .

[fingers]

A woman guest on BOTS a few nights ago(can't remember who) said Dan would make a great actor in a detective film or drama - that he had the good looks and persona for that. The funny thing was I'd been thinking the same thing earlier.
I'd love to see him on screen in a gritty detective drama! :cool:

Dan obviously wanted a career change which happens a lot in the early 30's age group and this probably coincided with him always having wanted to do BB, so it was good timing for him.
Why did the other dozen HM's want to do BB? No one is asking that, so I don't know why it would be asked of Dan specifically.

They didn't give up a well paying career, maybe?

[fingers]

He spoke about it to the twins on night .

OK, thanks, missed it!

[jet]

They didn't give up a well paying career, maybe?

Dan was giving up his career anyway, for reasons already discussed here, so whether he did BB or not is irrelevant.

[fingers]

Dan was giving up his career anyway, for reasons already discussed here, so whether he did BB or not is irrelevant.

Your non-answer is the irrelevance.

[cfromhx02]

To have people captive so he could interrogate them till they agreed with his point of view.

[cfromhx02]

He has a childrens range he wants to promote he called it Sookie.

Tell me; "Does she put a kettle on ?". I wouldn't bother Dan. It's been done before.

[jet]

Your non-answer is the irrelevance.

If you can't understand a direct and to the point answer without a long winded explanation, that's your problem, not mine.

[joeysteele]

Shouldn't have gone into the police then! :D

Why, if no one joined the Police we would be in a right mess in this Country.

There are, like anywhere else,good and bad in the Police force, many people in the police force are well repected and greatly liked too.

Are you saying everyone that goes into the Police is not going to be liked so if they are likely decent people that want to be liked they should never join the Police.

I concede to join the Police you would need a sharp and cutting edge to yourself but that doesn't mean all people in the Police force are unlikeable and indeed not liked by others.

Dan clearly had got stressed out by a particular case that involved children being sexually abused.
It actually shows him a decent human being, that even in that position and with his intense training he could feel distress and be affected by what was unearthed in that investigation.

[MTVN]

Well he did say he mainly joined the police because he suddenly found himself confronted with having a son and a lot of big responsibilities and needed a career to support that, it so happened he went into the police and did well out of it but he's likely wanting to go down a different path now, and while BB won't offer him instant fame it can still open up a lot of opportunities in the entertainment industry

[CaudleHalbard]

Dan clearly had got stressed out by a particular case that involved children being sexually abused.


Heaven help us if he had to investigate a gory murder - or a series of them.

(But I don't think he would be allowed to do that as a DC.)

He could have asked to be reassigned. OK it might not have looked to good if he did but surely better than what he has now which is....

Jobseekers Allowance!

[joeysteele]

Heaven help us if he had to investigate a gory murder - or a series of them.

(But I don't think he would be allowed to do that as a DC.)

He could have asked to be reassigned. OK it might not have looked to good if he did but surely better than what he has now which is....

Jobseekers Allowance!

Many Police and Detectives have had to have counselling after investigating gory murders and the like.
They are human you know. You are missing the point that quite a few have said on here that he likely also already wanted to do something different anyway as well as being affected in some way by the investigation he had been working on.

I am not in any way anti Police so I am really sorry but I cannot grasp where you are coming from.
Clearly for 10 years he did his job good and that is obvious because he rose to DC and is still only 33, I give him great credit for that.
As I do his courage to move on.

Maybe going into BB is also helping him think as to what he likely intends to try to do after he comes out with space away from normal life and the usual influences.

[CaudleHalbard]

My father was a policeman and rose to Sergeant in a lot less time than Dan has been in the force. He left because, years ago, pay was not as good as now and he had major expenses....... e.g. me! :D

But he lined up a well-paid job in the private sector berfore he left.

Dan's hasty departure from the police has more to it than meets the eye. I don't buy the Savile investigation excuse.

[joeysteele]

My father was a policeman and rose to Sergeant in a lot less time than Dan has been in the force. He left because, years ago, pay was not as good as now and he had major expenses....... e.g. me! :D

But he lined up a well-paid job in the private sector berfore he left.

Dan's hasty departure from the police has more to it than meets the eye. I don't buy the Savile investigation excuse.

Well there you are your Dad had also reasons to want to leave the Police but ones that had no bearing at all as to how good he was as to his job.
It is to his credit too that he was a member of the Police force.

Dan maybe should have had something lined up and maybe he has,we don't know.
he couldn't however have something lined up to start if he was also going into BB for a possible 2 and a half months.

Neither you or I can know for sure if the Saville element to him leaving the Police is right or not, he has stated that however and his word is good enough for me.
There is nothing anywhere, even from his former bosses in the Police to indicate he is not saying what was so as to that.
I can then accept his account of things very easily in that case.

[jet]

My father was a policeman and rose to Sergeant in a lot less time than Dan has been in the force. He left because, years ago, pay was not as good as now and he had major expenses....... e.g. me! :D

But he lined up a well-paid job in the private sector berfore he left.

Dan's hasty departure from the police has more to it than meets the eye. I don't buy the Savile investigation excuse.

I'm sure Dan can live with you not buying it.

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm sure Dan can live with you not buying it.

Let's hope he can live with his own decision!

He seems to be someone who expects to command respect. Some of that must come from his position as a police officer.

He will get precious little as a benefits claimant - his current position!

[CaudleHalbard]

Dan maybe should have had something lined up and maybe he has,we don't know.
he couldn't however have something lined up to start if he was also going into BB for a possible 2 and a half months.



Dan made it clear he had no idea what he would do once he left the house,

Joey, you are one of the members on here whose views I greatly respect but I cannot agree that what Dan has has done is it any way comparable to what my father did, and why he did it.

So in this case we will have to agree to disagree. :)

[joeysteele]

Let's hope he can live with his own decision!

He seems to be someone who expects to command respect. Some of that must come from his position as a police officer.

He will get precious little as a benefits claimant - his current position!

I have no idea what it will be but I really doubt Dan will need to be a benefit claimant, there are many jobs available that he could do from his training and knowledge gained in the Police force and I would dare bet there will be offers from other sources waiting when he comes out too.

I doubt he will have much to really worry about as to an income in the future.

hey, despite disagreeing with you, I have loved this debate with you though and thank you very much for sharing that your Father was a policeman too.
We just look at Dan differently clearly,I believe him, you have doubts.
All my best to you anyway.

[jet]

Let's hope he can live with his own decision!

He seems to be someone who expects to command respect. Some of that must come from his position as a police officer.

He will get precious little as a benefits claimant - his current position!

I'm sure he'll manage.
You don't give up, do you? :hugesmile: Why do you care what Dan does as a career anyway?

[CaudleHalbard]

Why do you care what Dan does as a career anyway?

I don't care one iota. :D

I just think there's more to it than meets the eye.

Secrets & Lies, Secrets & Lies! Lol! ;)

[cookiemonster]

i think he just wanted a change. his son's getting older so he doesn't need to rely on his dad for every little thing. does his son live with him all the time?

[joeysteele]

Dan made it clear he had no idea what he would do once he left the house,

Joey, you are one of the members on here whose views I greatly respect but I cannot agree that what Dan has has done is it any way comparable to what my father did, and why he did it.

So in this case we will have to agree to disagree. :)

Surprised at your comment I thought I had been as friendly as possible during it, however you made the first comparison of your Father leaving the Police force not me.
I never compared your Father leaving the police force with Dan's decision either,so please dont twist what I say.

YOU had said why would someone leave the Police after so many years.
Dan left for his own reasons,which really are nothing to do with you or me anyway.
All I said was that clearly there are reasons why people leave jobs they do after a fair amount of time of doing it.

I added after you said, not me,that your Father leaving for his reasons bore no bearing at all as to how good he was at his job.
You were implying that Dan mustn't have been that good at his job, but to me it is the same, him leaving the force for whatever his reasons are also has no bearings as to how good he was as to his job.

Fair enough though, you brought your Father in to the conversation not me and I felt quite privileged you had shared that with me as well.
However I can see that I would have been better to ignore your comment as to your Father.

I thought we had a constructive and decent conversation, well clearly I was wrong, I will most certainly not, make that mistake again.