Dan blaming Gina for Hazel being hated.

[Vanessa]

Day 43: Has Gina swayed the public's perception of Hazel?
1 hour ago

Last night Dan aired his concerns about how Gina and Dexter's treatment of Hazel during their time in the Safe House may have affected the public's perception. He reasoned that their decision to choose Hazel for the horrible tasks may have planted a seed in people's mind, especially as, in Dan's opinion, they are popular housemates.

Today Gina decided to challenge this view, feeling that it was unfair to say that she had any hand in tainting Hazel's reputation.

"The public have their own minds. And say if they loved Hazel and then me and Dexter were bitching about her, we could have been hated," she reasoned.

Dan was quick to defend his point of view, stating, "All I was saying is that maybe your thoughts were in the public's mind more because it was over a few days and it wasn't just one day Hazel got bad things to do".

Gina didn't seem too convinced. She argued that for tasks such as the stink bomb challenge, they were forced to choose the most glamorous housemate and unfortunately that was Hazel. She was firm in saying that any public backlash was of her own doing.

"Me and Dexter, we're just normal, average people in this world. We don't have that impact on other's people's decisions".

Not wanting to cause an argument, Dan replied, "I'm just trying to work out why the public dislike Hazel so much, that's all."

Neither party seem convinced with the other's argument, but for now they've decided to agree to disagree on this one.

[Jemal]

Seriously nessa. Dan can soar the **** off tommorow.

[Vanessa]

This is about Dexter and Gina being popular as opposed to Hazel being unpopular. Dan is losing his grasp on reality.

[smeagol]

you backing the twins now vanessa that sig is giving me the creeps lol

dan thinks to much it will be his downfall. so silly he cant be saved if he is going to keep going on and on and on like that

[Jemal]

He's deluded man. One day he jumps on Charlie. The next day its callum. Next day its dexter (even tho the word tragic was quite funny) and now hes questioning Ginas antics in the house. Its pisstake.

[Vanessa]

you backing the twins now vanessa that sig is giving me the creeps lol

dan thinks to much it will be his downfall. so silly he cant be saved if he is going to keep going on and on and on like that

It's the twins reaction after they found out Dexter is not a snake. :joker::joker:

[Niamh.]

This is about Dexter and Gina being popular as opposed to Hazel being unpopular. Dan is losing his grasp on reality.

Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

[Vanessa]

Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

If he knew he was up for eviction he'd keep quiet. :laugh:

[Ellen]

Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

[Vanessa]

Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

he's blaming both gina and dexter. has he forgotten about the whole daley thing ? :joker:

[Spoon]

It's admirable that Dan is loyal, but it's strategically idiotic to upset the HMs who the public clearly likes the most. Plus, Gina has been really nice to him. Why get her back up?

[Suze]

I have no time for Dan, what a pompous idiot he is.

[Vanessa]

It's admirable that Dan is loyal, but it's strategically idiotic to upset the HMs who the public clearly likes the most. Plus, Gina has been really nice to him. Why get her back up?

This won't go down well with Gina and Dexter fans. :laugh:

[Braden]

There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if Gina does.

[Niamh.]

There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if she does.

It wouldn't have helped Hazels case for sure, but she was already hated before they went into the Safe House

[mr rochester]

This is VERY interesting. By saying this Dan is acknowledging that thoughts can be embedded into others (depending on how they are said). That being so, might it be a possibility that just before noms are due Dan goes around 'embedding thoughts' into other HM's for who to nominate?

Answers on a postcard...

[Kizzy]

If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

[Vanessa]

There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if Gina does.

hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

[Ellen]

he's blaming both gina and dexter. has he forgotten about the whole daley thing ? :joker:

Yes and the fact she has been stirring since then.

[Braden]

Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

[Kris]

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.

[Vanessa]

Yes and the fact she has been stirring since then.

If Dan stays i think he'll be up again next week. :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

Maybe, but then Gina and Hazel have always disliked each other.

[bez87]

Well dan wouldn't know about her being 2faced or care because it's Dan she talks with about the other HMs lol Dan is deluded because he only see's that side it's crazy.

[lily.]

hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

I agree. Before Daley assaulted her, the public was against Hazel. She was viewed as a home-wrecker. She broke the girl-code by openly flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, and female viewers do not like that.

After Daley assaulted her, some viewers were sympathetic. I feel bad for her for what happened to her in the safe house, however, I dislike her as a person, and that won't change just because something bad happened to her.

[Benjamin]

Hazel was quite liked until the Daley showmance, that is why she is hated, not because of what Gina and Dexter have said. Dan needs to watch himself or he will be leaving tomorrow for sure.

[Benjamin]

Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

[user104658]

The initial dislike started with the Daley showmance, since then she's just become an easy target for hateful people.

He's not entirely wrong though: Gina has been clear about disliking Hazel and the public, for some reason, think the sun shines out of Gina's arse. In reality, as her reaction to the snake costume in the DR shows, she's just another one of those hateful, immature people who gets her jollies from seeing people upset. No wonder "the public" likes her... like attracts like, I suppose.

[Spoon]

If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

[Niamh.]

I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

That's true enough

[user104658]

I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

I agree, he must know that people being people will be keen to find blame in hazel for what "happened to" hazel. He's been keen not to say so to her face though even when she's thought it. Mainly because it's a really awful, damaging opinion to hold.

But yeah as a policeman hell have seen it many times before. She were askin for it officer! She lead me on! Bloody despicable.

[MrWong]

I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

That's why I dislike her.

I can't stand showmances and was even willing to put up with Wolfy for another week over the Dazel bollocks.

[user104658]

That's why I dislike her.

I can't stand showmances and was even willing to put up with Wolfy for another week over the Dazel bollocks.

I assume you dislike Charlie, callum and dexter equally, then?

[MrWong]

I assume you dislike Charlie, callum and dexter equally, then?

Not quite but the love triangle edits have ruined this weeks viewing pleasure.

Luckily for Dexter he doesn't have to rely so heavily on the love triangle because he's a big character. For Charlie/Callum it's all they have so bare the brunt of my dislike overall.

[DanielLuis]

She's hated since before those two entered the safe house. I don't think the other housemates have any idea of how Daley and Hazel's flirtations were.

[Vanessa]

Not quite but the love triangle edits have ruined this weeks viewing pleasure.

Luckily for Dexter he doesn't have to rely so heavily on the love triangle because he's a big character. For Charlie/Callum it's all they have so bare the brunt of my dislike overall.

I hope Callum and Charlie spend all their time with each other. I prefer Dexter with Gina. At least she's a true friend. Charlie is not.

[Vanessa]

She's hated since before those two entered the safe house. I don't think the other housemates have any idea of how Daley and Hazel's flirtations were.

Dan is annoying me today.

[Kizzy]

I agree, he must know that people being people will be keen to find blame in hazel for what "happened to" hazel. He's been keen not to say so to her face though even when she's thought it. Mainly because it's a really awful, damaging opinion to hold.

But yeah as a policeman hell have seen it many times before. She were askin for it officer! She lead me on! Bloody despicable.

That's probably what daley said to the star in his interview....

[jet]

hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

Yes, but the HM's may not know the full extent of her flirting with Daley. For example, Dan wasn't around a lot of the time that she was doing it, and the others individually weren't always there either. When the other HM's did see it, they wouldn't know what was actually being said between the 2 of them.
We know, because the highlights concentrated on it, and Gina and Dexter know as they watched from the safe house.
I think Dan is just trying to work out why his friend is hated so much, and isn't a big leap for him to think that D&G saw things he and the other HM's didn't and he could well think that they are targeting Hazel for that (which is partly true!)

[user104658]

That's probably what daley said to the star in his interview....

It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.

[Ellen]

Yes, but the HM's may not know the full extent of her flirting with Daley. For example, Dan wasn't around a lot of the time that she was doing it, and the others individually weren't always there either. When the other HM's did see it, they wouldn't know what was actually being said between the 2 of them.
We know, because the highlights concentrated on it, and Gina and Dexter know as they watched from the safe house.
I think Dan is just trying to work out why his friend is hated so much, and isn't a big leap for him to think that D&G saw things he and the other HM's didn't and he could well think that they are targeting Hazel for that (which is partly true!)

Then it shouldnt be hard for him to work out that if D &G saw things he & the other HM's didnt then public will have seen what D&G did.

[Kizzy]

It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.

Sanctimonious ugly fat women :joker:

[Lex]

I have no time for Dan, what a pompous idiot he is.


And don't forget....SMUG! :dance:

[Vanessa]

And don't forget....SMUG! :dance:

He's digging his own grave. Keep going, Dan. :joker:

[Braden]

I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

That wasn't aimed at anybody on the forum.

I'm a Gina fan and I don't dislike Hazel because Gina does. I'm just saying, more of the younger audiences will be impressionable towards the fact that Gina doesn't like Hazel. They will carry this through until she's evicted, even though in recent days she's actually been okay and hasn't done anything to warrant dislike imo.

[CaudleHalbard]

Dan thinks his snuggle bunny Hazel is 100% certain to be booted on Friday and he's lashing out.

........................... little does he know he's up for the chop! :D

[Vanessa]

Dan thinks his snuggle bunny Hazel is 100% certain to be booted on Friday and he's lashing out.

........................... little does he know he's up for the chop! :D

That's true. If only he knew how close he is to being evicted. :joker:

[Lex]

Sanctimonious ugly fat women :joker:

That's gotta be worth a warning, if my saying that Dan was horrible was! :joker:

[Lex]

That's true. If only he knew how close he is to being evicted. :joker:

Fingers crossed!!...hope they tell them tomorrow morning! :hugesmile:

[Vanessa]

Fingers crossed!!...hope they tell them tomorrow morning! :hugesmile:

I think they'll wait until Emma talks to the House. :devil:

[Patricia4]

I hope its tonight.

[CaudleHalbard]

I think they'll wait until Emma talks to the House.

I think you are right. She can say "Big Brother told you a lie".

They will then start speculating what other lies they've been told, eg order of popularity!

[jet]

Then it shouldnt be hard for him to work out that if D &G saw things he & the other HM's didnt then public will have seen what D&G did.

Of course. But he couldn't know the extent of it or whether D&G, being popular with the public, could have swayed outside opinion by their reactions in the safe house.

[joeysteele]

Well I think Dan is on a slightly wrong foot here, first of all BB was really eager for Hazel and Daley to start some romance, that is even borne out by them pairing them together for the public to vote 2 people into the safe house.

When Dexter and Gina,(and being honest Gina particularly does hate Hazel), were in the safe house, most of what we saw on the highlights, edited by BB though ,were in the main Dexter and Gina focussing on Hazel and Daley very negatively.

It's odd yesterday though, Dan was pilloried on here but for seemingly not standing by Hazel now, today when he is trying to work out how she may be disliked and is sort of standing up for her he is pilloried again.
Unbelievable.

As I said, I think he is wrong to say Dexter and Gina are all to blame for Hazel being more disliked but they are partly to blame because in the main, it was Hazel who got the real blacklash from them in the safe house.

On the other side,Hazel has never been that complimentary as to Gina and Dexter so really it is like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
I do know a good few people who really turned on Hazel during that time of Dexter and Gina in the safe house watching them.however to be fair to Dexter and Gina,they had no idea what BB were actually showing from their time in the safe house.
So they are not really to blame and Hazel does have to bear much of the blame herself for not seemingly being liked still.

It is not particularly fair she isn't liked but it can be hard to turn things around on BB,very few housemates are and have been able to.

[Vanessa]

I think you are right. She can say "Big Brother told you a lie".

They will then start speculating what other lies they've been told, eg order of popularity!

True. I just want to see Dan reaction. :laugh:

[Lex]

True. I just want to see Dan reaction. :laugh:

I would rather see the meltdown that he would certainly have on the saturday hl's! :joker::joker:....cruel?..yes I know...but that's just me, I just can't stand the smug sanctimonious pratttt! lol :devil:

[joeysteele]

I would rather see the meltdown that he would certainly have on the saturday hl's! :joker::joker:....cruel?..yes I know...but that's just me, I just can't stand the smug sanctimonious pratttt! lol :devil:

Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

[Indy]

Dan blames Gina, the twins blame BB's edit. You'd think someone in there would wonder what happened in the SH that Daley might be dishing to the tabloids - they all saw that tennis ball. WE know the truth, but shouldn't they at least wonder?

[Vanessa]

Dan blames Gina, the twins blame BB's edit. You'd think someone in there would wonder what happened in the SH that Daley might be dishing to the tabloids - they all saw that tennis ball. WE know the truth, but shouldn't they at least wonder?

Omg! Your sig! I think the twins are going to give me nightmares . :joker::joker:

[Indy]

Omg! Your sig! I think the twins are going to give me nightmares . :joker::joker:

I tried to shrink it but it doesn't look like it updated, sorry bout that :P

[hijaxers]

I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

OK Yes but couldn't Detective Dan also reason that there may be things Hazels not saying ! Surely he didn't take people at face value as a police officer , so why has he just taken Hazel's word ?
He has been over zealous in accusing or not believing other HM's stories so why does he think Hazel has been honest ? :conf::conf:

[alex_front2]

Typical whitr copper
#stopandsearch

[boomoo]

Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

The problem for Dan is he does not know what we know and Hazel is not going to tell him what really happened in the ' not so safe house'.

[boomoo]

Well I think Dan is on a slightly wrong foot here, first of all BB was really eager for Hazel and Daley to start some romance, that is even borne out by them pairing them together for the public to vote 2 people into the safe house.

When Dexter and Gina,(and being honest Gina particularly does hate Hazel), were in the safe house, most of what we saw on the highlights, edited by BB though ,were in the main Dexter and Gina focussing on Hazel and Daley very negatively.

It's odd yesterday though, Dan was pilloried on here but for seemingly not standing by Hazel now, today when he is trying to work out how she may be disliked and is sort of standing up for her he is pilloried again.
Unbelievable.

As I said, I think he is wrong to say Dexter and Gina are all to blame for Hazel being more disliked but they are partly to blame because in the main, it was Hazel who got the real blacklash from them in the safe house.

On the other side,Hazel has never been that complimentary as to Gina and Dexter so really it is like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
I do know a good few people who really turned on Hazel during that time of Dexter and Gina in the safe house watching them.however to be fair to Dexter and Gina,they had no idea what BB were actually showing from their time in the safe house.
So they are not really to blame and Hazel does have to bear much of the blame herself for not seemingly being liked still.

It is not particularly fair she isn't liked but it can be hard to turn things around on BB,very few housemates are and have been able to.

It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

[Indy]

It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?

[CaudleHalbard]

If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?

Or indeed Skidmark Sallie!

[Lex]

Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

[Vanessa]

Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

I change my mind about Dan all the time and i always have. Sometimes i like him, other times i hate him. He's a marmite character. :hugesmile:

[CaudleHalbard]

Lex is right it is all pantomime. We boo and cheer.

The moment we start taking it too seriously, gawd help us! ;)

[joeysteele]

It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

That is very true.

[Vanessa]

Lex is right it is all pantomime. We boo and cheer.

The moment we start taking it too seriously, gawd help us! ;)

True. Like Dexter says, it's all a game. If someone offends me i just put them on ignore. Avoids arguments. :pipe:

[joeysteele]

Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

Didn't mean you at all, I commended you for being consistent.
I take all things seriously and I have had a fair bit to take on here this series in fact.

[CaudleHalbard]

I take all things seriously

So we've noticed! Chill buddy!:)

[Vanessa]

So we've noticed! Chill buddy!:)

It's only a gameshow! It's only a gamshow. :dance:

[Speedster]

Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

Gina spent her time bitching about and punishing Hazel through horrible,humiliating tasks like cleaning the whole house for something like 7hrs while others had fun and got some nice food.

[Speedster]

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.


You have a very high opinion of BB fans, then.:spin:

[Lex]

Didn't mean you at all, I commended you for being consistent.
I take all things seriously and I have had a fair bit to take on here this series in fact.

Life's too short Joey...take it from an old timer! :hugesmile:

I've read tons of your posts over the past couple of years, and have come to respect your dedicated thoughtfulness when posting your views[and our friend The Mockinator too!]...but it really is not worth taking too serious my young friend, :thumbs:...but perhaps only time will reveal this truism. ...I'd better shut up now, because I keep banging on about not liking preachers! :joker:

Cheers buddy.

[Speedster]

I agree. Before Daley assaulted her, the public was against Hazel. She was viewed as a home-wrecker. She broke the girl-code by openly flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, and female viewers do not like that.

After Daley assaulted her, some viewers were sympathetic. I feel bad for her for what happened to her in the safe house, however, I dislike her as a person, and that won't change just because something bad happened to her.



By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?. :shocked:

[Speedster]

The initial dislike started with the Daley showmance, since then she's just become an easy target for hateful people.

He's not entirely wrong though: Gina has been clear about disliking Hazel and the public, for some reason, think the sun shines out of Gina's arse. In reality, as her reaction to the snake costume in the DR shows, she's just another one of those hateful, immature people who gets her jollies from seeing people upset. No wonder "the public" likes her... like attracts like, I suppose.



Absolutely-Gina's horrible and a total hypocrite; the great British public'll get the "winner" it deserves.

[Kazanne]

Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Hey Joey,we sing from the same song sheet,it's hard to wade through the crap sometimes,but it'll be worth it in the end:hugesmile: I don't mind Dan at all there are far worse than him in there.

[user104658]

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?. :shocked:

It's not even that. Charlie pulled dexter into the shower and tried to get her to kiss him. He (at least as far as the housemates are concerned) has a girlfriend. NO ONE CARES. Yet it's exactly the same thing Hazel is demonized for. Allegedly. Verdict: it's an excuse, people just have it in for her and use any "reason" that seems plausible.

[Speedster]

It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.

THIS. Women HATE other woman.:shocked:

[MrWong]

Gina spent her time bitching about and punishing Hazel through horrible,humiliating tasks like cleaning the whole house for something like 7hrs while others had fun and got some nice food.

So what? Hazel was already disliked by then. I noticed the tide turning when she dropped Dan when he was up for eviction then increase when she went for the showmance.

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?. :shocked:

Girl code means don't go after a man that's already taken. Where did you get that it means what you've stated? Gina was even harsher with Daley for the fact that he was in a relationship already. So no double standards from her.

[Speedster]

If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?


I think they both went because they had strong opinions and weren't shy about expressing them; I think that's something else women don't like about other women.

[Indy]

I think they both went because they had strong opinions and weren't shy about expressing them; I think that's something else women don't like about other women.

Except Gina is favorite to win by a large margin...

[Speedster]

Except Gina is favorite to win by a large margin...

She hasn't won it yet and maybe if she was friendly to Hazel she wouldn't be so popular. As for Daley, he sort of deserved it.

[Livia]

THIS. Women HATE other woman.:shocked:

Not all women!

Hazel's been a trooper in the last couple of days. If Gina had been given the grief that Hazel's been handed she'd have imploded. Actually... I would tune in for that.

[Speedster]

Not all women!

Hazel's been a trooper in the last couple of days. If Gina had been given the grief that Hazel's been handed she'd have imploded. Actually... I would tune in for that.


I didn't mean all women, I should've made that distinction.

[Livia]

I didn't mean all women, I should've made that distinction.

Oh okay... I'll stand down the hit squad :-)

[Braden]

Dan's boyfriend :evilgrin:

[blue]

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.

this.



i hope dan leaves on friday can't stand him or that hazel

[jegmeister]

what a sh*t-stirring slimeball that man is. Get him out!

[lily.]

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?. :shocked:

No. I mean the actual girl-code... which is a set of unwritten rules decent girls live by.. one of which is not scamming on another girl's man.

If you want my opinion on Daley... he's ten times worse than Hazel because he was the one who was in the relationship. He was the one who made a commitment/promise to one woman, then went on to behave shamelessly with another woman.

So, no, there's no double-standard meant by anything I posted.

[Miranda123]

If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

If he had been a good detective he should have asked himself why the public would hate so much on a VICTIM?

Answer: The public dont think she is the VICTIM

[CaudleHalbard]

I think Dan will go very quiet on the Dazelgate issue. If I recall rightly he on said on BOTS he likes Daley, as well as Hazel.

[swinearefine]

I do agree with Dan to a degree. I understand that Hazel was a bitch to Gina early on but she's been fine the last few weeks and Gina really needs to just let it go.

[cheapbbfan]

I think its somewhat true. I didn't start to hate Hazel till Dexter and Gina were put in the safehouse and pinpointed all of Hazel's flaws. I didn't really notice how much of a snake she was till then and BB really ran with that, using Gina's commentary to edit a story

[smudgie]

I think it has turned around somewhat now. The Gina hate on Hazel is not doing her any good at all.
Hazel may still get evicted this week, but she is not as " hated" as she was before.

[Sandz38]

Dan was hazels only friend in that house I'm glad dexter has taken the time to talk to hazel and shows he is not trying to single her out or victimise her, I think gina needs to leave hazel alone it's not right and she could lose favour with fans for being nasty and fickle! Yes hazel did some silly things with Daley but only her and Daley know the truth behind that we saw what b.b allowed us to see :)


I love a good forum rant!!

[CaudleHalbard]

Almost certainly Hazel will be out in a few hours time. There won't be anyone for Gina to rant about then.