View Full Version : Why do some people dislike Dan for being intelligent?
Mystic Mock
25-07-2013, 06:15 PM
I know the thick Housemates are usually more popular cuz their fick innit.
But why do people seem to actually dislike Dan for being clever? Yes it's annoying that he seems to know everything but it's not something that people should evict him for over Sam and Sophie imo.
Roy Mars III
25-07-2013, 06:17 PM
he's pretty smart but not that clever
He questions so many things that happen in the house, of course he is going to be right once or twice. He has gotten about 50 + things wrong, and two or three things right. Not really great results
I don't dislike him for being intelligent. I do blame him for the lack of common sense to keep his cards close to the vest. He has no idea if he's guessing things that will lose a task. He also has no appreciation for how sharing that kind of info hurts him in the house.
He's more interested in showing off than he is in getting ahead, and it ends up with him having pouty strops like he's done last night and again today over his place in the pecking order. Instead of telling everyone "this is what's going on, so change your behavior accordingly" he'd do better to figure things out, act on his own, and let everyone else hang themselves or figure it out as natural selection has given them the ability to do so.
Jesus.
25-07-2013, 06:18 PM
Firstly - he's a ******ing policeman.
Secondly - he's a ******ing policeman.
5 GCSE's grade c and above was all he needed. He's made guesses about every single thing that's happened in the house, he'll get some right.
I totally agree. I find it quite bizarre when people complain about him sussing things out. If their fav was doing it, it would be wonderful. ;)
Withano
25-07-2013, 06:20 PM
Even if he was a genius, he'd still have flaws in his personality. Why do people think he's clever? He's not.
Firstly - he's a ******ing policeman.
Secondly - he's a ******ing policeman.
5 GCSE's grade c and above was all he needed. He's made guesses about every single thing that's happened in the house, he'll get some right.
Ahhh....now we know what I always suspected.
Even if he was a genius, he'd still have flaws in his personality. Why do people think he's clever? He's not.
Did you conduct his IQ test for the police force then? :hugesmile:
Mystic Mock
25-07-2013, 06:22 PM
And at least Dan shows his flaws unlike Sophie who tries so hard to hide her cruelty it's unbelievable, plus she's treating the public like idiots, don't prove her right.
Daffodil
25-07-2013, 06:23 PM
I think Dan is perceptive, shrewd, funny and intelligent. And he SHOULD win!!!.
Shaun
25-07-2013, 06:24 PM
I don't really see him as that intelligent, he's just suspicious of everything. All of his conversations are idle gossip, he's not really that interesting and doesn't display any interests.
Jesus.
25-07-2013, 06:24 PM
Ahhh....now we know what I always suspected.
Which is?
I know he's a clever housemate that's why he is one-off my favorites and I like him for other reasons to
Withano
25-07-2013, 06:25 PM
Did you conduct his IQ test for the police force then? :hugesmile:
Twice.
smeagol
25-07-2013, 06:27 PM
cant say its crossed its mind but i guess no one likes the geek putting there hand up all the time and answering all the questions lol
hijaxers
25-07-2013, 06:28 PM
I totally agree. I find it quite bizarre when people complain about him sussing things out. If their fav was doing it, it would be wonderful. ;)
But he's not sussing things out really is he ?
Not got a clue why the public dislike Hazel so much !
Not got a clue it may be him going !
Jesus.
25-07-2013, 06:29 PM
cant say its crossed its mind but i guess no one likes the geek putting there hand up all the time and answering all the questions lol
It's this misconception of Dan that does my head in. He scatterguesses about everything on a show called...wait for it...secrets and lies. Wow - he must be super-intelligent to work out secrets and lies will be told through the course of the program.
joeysteele
25-07-2013, 06:35 PM
And at least Dan shows his flaws unlike Sophie who tries so hard to hide her cruelty it's unbelievable, plus she's treating the public like idiots, don't prove her right.
100% right, it is amazing the attacks on him,I admit he has flaws, they all do as I do too.
Every single one of his though becomes major event and thread on here.
He doesn't like Callum,he gets slammed for that, Dexter belittles Callum every chance he gets but is a hero for it.
Sophie is quite selfish, okay when she gets her own way, you can though easily see the nastier side when she is displeased at even the smallest of things.
Yet, being so dull and inactive, she would be preferred to support and stay if it got Dan out.
You have hardly been on here through this series and have worked that out already, you and Dan would make a pretty good pair.:hugesmile:
But he's not sussing things out really is he ?
Not got a clue why the public dislike Hazel so much !
Not got a clue it may be him going !
Wrong on both counts.
It's this misconception of Dan that does my head in. He scatterguesses about everything on a show called...wait for it...secrets and lies. Wow - he must be super-intelligent to work out secrets and lies will be told through the course of the program.
It doesn't matter if he's figuring it out or wild-ass guessing. Either way he needs to keep it to himself.
joeysteele
25-07-2013, 06:46 PM
It doesn't matter if he's figuring it out or wild-ass guessing. Either way he needs to keep it to himself.
Why, I for one and it would seem a good few others enjoy hearing his suspicions. At least he is saying and doing something.
That's not why I dislike him
Jesus.
25-07-2013, 06:47 PM
It doesn't matter if he's figuring it out or wild-ass guessing. Either way he needs to keep it to himself.
It sort of means there is no intelligence involved if your guessing.
smeagol
25-07-2013, 06:47 PM
It's this misconception of Dan that does my head in. He scatterguesses about everything on a show called...wait for it...secrets and lies. Wow - he must be super-intelligent to work out secrets and lies will be told through the course of the program.
he is quite smart as far as ppl are concerned i like him for it. though sometimes he should learn to not say everything he thinks. thats his biggest downfall
joeysteele
25-07-2013, 06:50 PM
he is quite smart as far as ppl are concerned i like him for it. though sometimes he should learn to not say everything he thinks. thats his biggest downfall
I agree completely with that,fair comment.
Why, I for one and it would seem a good few others enjoy hearing his suspicions. At least he is saying and doing something.
Then he should report them to the DR. If this had been a previous season, he'd be failing tasks for other housemates daily with his constant suspicions.
coolkid
25-07-2013, 07:36 PM
Then he should report them to the DR. If this had been a previous season, he'd be failing tasks for other housemates daily with his constant suspicions.
quite agree with the comments about dan we're not saying he is perfect as a viewer I would much rather watch him then sophie I think is not everyone cup tea but he is loyal look how he is with hazel when Charlie was getting to callem he stuck up for him like him or loath him good hm
Livia
25-07-2013, 07:48 PM
I don't think people dislike Dan for being intelligent. More that he's whiney and self-involved.
I can honestly say I have never noticed anyone say they dislike Dan for being intelligent.
Benjamin
25-07-2013, 07:51 PM
I don't care how intelligent or stupid a housemate is. I've liked housemates such as 'the dumb people' like Alex (BB12) and Jade (BB3), right through to the more intelligent housemates like Science (BB6) and Stu (BB5).
And in terms of intelligence, Dan is not that intelligent, he's about average.
CaudleHalbard
25-07-2013, 07:52 PM
He is only intelligent in terms of the other HMs. Which, let's face it, isn't hard! Lol! ;)
Vanessa
25-07-2013, 07:53 PM
He is only intelligent in terms of the other HMs. Which, let's face it, isn't hard! Lol! ;)
:joker: I think his bitchiness lets him down.
Speedster
25-07-2013, 07:53 PM
I don't dislike him for his intelligence, it's his arrogance that bothers Me.
Chuckyegg
25-07-2013, 08:22 PM
There is really no reason to dislike anyone for being bright, as well you know.
rusticgal
25-07-2013, 09:09 PM
I think Dan is perceptive, shrewd, funny and intelligent. And he SHOULD win!!!.
Absolutely.... people feel threatened by it and think he is just trying to be clever. Instead of keeping his opinions to himself he speaks his mind saying exactly what he and feels.... showing he is not fake and wears his heart on his sleeve....Love him for that....Dan to win.:dance::dance::dance:
Pronshi
25-07-2013, 09:20 PM
There is being intelligent and then there is being patronizing and wishful thinking.
rusticgal
25-07-2013, 09:28 PM
There is being intelligent and then there is being patronizing and wishful thinking.
There is being patronising...and there is being someone open and honest about their thoughts and feelings around many who are too scared to express them.... then there are those who are too thick to have seen things that more intelligent people do... that doesnt make him patronising.
Livia
25-07-2013, 09:31 PM
More paranoid than patronising.
halfacrown
25-07-2013, 09:48 PM
There is being patronising...and there is being someone open and honest about their thoughts and feelings around many who are too scared to express them.... then there are those who are too thick to have seen things that more intelligent people do... that doesnt make him patronising.
There is a point where honest opinion becomes plain rudeness. Children learn to hold their tongues because it's not acceptable to tell people what we think of them in most situations. Being opinionated is not the same as being intelligent and can, in fact be very annoying and boring.
Tulin
25-07-2013, 10:36 PM
I know the thick Housemates are usually more popular cuz their fick innit.
But why do people seem to actually dislike Dan for being clever? Yes it's annoying that he seems to know everything but it's not something that people should evict him for over Sam and Sophie imo.
In general people of higher intelligence are disliked by people of lesser intelligence. It's a complex situation involving jealousy, lack of trust and the "ficker" people projecting their own insecurities onto the "smarter" person.
I'd say the average IQ on these boards wouldn't be too sky high(plus from a lot of the posts I have read over the last few months I would say that average age of posters here is quite young), so that kind of tracks with the general Dan hate I have seen here.
Add to that he is an ex-cop and the general predilection amongst younger people for not liking police officers(or outright being young thugs and hoodlums themselves who may have had negative experiences with the police)and it's a perfect storm of negativity towards Dan.
Me?
I just wanna get in between that pec cleavage and do all kinds of nasty things!
:dance:
Kizzy
25-07-2013, 10:51 PM
He is highly intelligent a lot of people find that intimidating.
CaudleHalbard
25-07-2013, 11:01 PM
He is highly intelligent a lot of people find that intimidating.
He is of average intelligence and a lot of people find that intimidating! :D
Fosse
26-07-2013, 12:50 AM
He's not intelligent; if you think he's clever then you've lived a very sheltered life.
Kizzy
26-07-2013, 12:54 AM
He's not intelligent; if you think he's clever then you've lived a very sheltered life.
clearly I have then as he has managed to keep track of every secret and lie told in the house so far fosse....
Kizzy
26-07-2013, 12:57 AM
He is of average intelligence and a lot of people find that intimidating! :D
I find aggressive boxers that dominate women intimidating.
CaudleHalbard
26-07-2013, 12:59 AM
clearly I have then as he has managed to keep track of every secret and lie told in the house so far fosse....
He has also got a lot of things wrong, eg Wolfy is an actress - ruining her time in the house (not that I like the female).
If you are suspicious (=paranoid) about EVERYTHING you are bound to get a few things right.
He has not picked up on Gina's fake background, so he is no Sherlock.
letmein
26-07-2013, 07:03 AM
I know the thick Housemates are usually more popular cuz their fick innit.
But why do people seem to actually dislike Dan for being clever? Yes it's annoying that he seems to know everything but it's not something that people should evict him for over Sam and Sophie imo.
No, he's annoying because he's annoying. He's an arrogant prick.
Jords
26-07-2013, 07:09 AM
he's pretty smart but not that clever
He questions so many things that happen in the house, of course he is going to be right once or twice. He has gotten about 50 + things wrong, and two or three things right. Not really great results
EXACTLY.
Hes a paranoid mess.
Hes smart though, but thats not why I dislike him.
He has also got a lot of things wrong, eg Wolfy is an actress - ruining her time in the house (not that I like the female).
If you are suspicious (=paranoid) about EVERYTHING you are bound to get a few things right.
He has not picked up on Gina's fake background, so he is no Sherlock.
He has not got a lot of things wrong - just one or two. On the contrary, he has gotten most things right. No detective can have a 100% success rate. Unless they are fictional of course. :hmph:
clearly I have then as he has managed to keep track of every secret and lie told in the house so far fosse....
I'd attribute that more to paranoia.
He is clearly one of the more intelligent of the housemates but most of the twists he has uncovered because he seems extremely paranoid, which isn't surprising in a game show called SECRETS & LIES.
Fosse
26-07-2013, 09:54 AM
I should say he is of average intelligence - around the 100 IQ mark.
That's stellar, of course, compared with the likes of Sophie and Sam and some people on here ;)
Jords
26-07-2013, 10:31 AM
Think Dan is a repressing his creepy side and is paranoid that its seeping through! Bloody creep!
Kizzy
26-07-2013, 10:38 AM
I should say he is of average intelligence - around the 100 IQ mark.
That's stellar, of course, compared with the likes of Sophie and Sam and some people on here ;)
Assuming you mean academically intelligent?
I for one wouldn't limit my appreciation of anyone based on exam results, it would be pompous and ignorant to reduce housemates personalities down to educational attainment as a measure of my appreciation.
Vicky.
26-07-2013, 10:42 AM
I don't think people do dislike Dan for being intelligent. Though I can see why his constant paranoia would piss people off..but BB set him up for that really with the secrets and lies theme and Michael :laugh:
bananarama
26-07-2013, 10:42 AM
Intelligent people don't go on Big brother. Says it all really.........
Fosse
26-07-2013, 10:43 AM
Assuming you mean academically intelligent?
I for one wouldn't limit my appreciation of anyone based on exam results, it would be pompous and ignorant to reduce housemates personalities down to educational attainment as a measure of my appreciation.
Who knows what their exam results were/are? And why would it matter?
bez87
26-07-2013, 10:47 AM
I think it's amazing how he works everything out, he hasn't got much wrong. he worked out Michael was an actor, he had a crazy gut feeling Gina and Dexter were in a safe house, and now he has a sneaky feeling that the safe house isn't very safe, he spot on with what he says, what i don't like is his girly dancing about and how B**chy he is, i mean i've worked with girls/women most of my working life up until now, and wow i've never known nothing like, but Dan takes it to a whole new level. lol
Mystic Mock
26-07-2013, 05:44 PM
100% right, it is amazing the attacks on him,I admit he has flaws, they all do as I do too.
Every single one of his though becomes major event and thread on here.
He doesn't like Callum,he gets slammed for that, Dexter belittles Callum every chance he gets but is a hero for it.
Sophie is quite selfish, okay when she gets her own way, you can though easily see the nastier side when she is displeased at even the smallest of things.
Yet, being so dull and inactive, she would be preferred to support and stay if it got Dan out.
You have hardly been on here through this series and have worked that out already, you and Dan would make a pretty good pair.:hugesmile:
I agree that it seems like one rule for Dan and another rule for the rest, it's not very fair at all.
And lol thanks Joey.
joeysteele
26-07-2013, 05:55 PM
I agree that it seems like one rule for Dan and another rule for the rest, it's not very fair at all.
And lol thanks Joey.
As always, you are welcome Mock.:hugesmile:
Johnnyuk123
26-07-2013, 06:09 PM
Over these two up for eviction tonight Dan is simply a BB LEGEND!
If he does go it's back to the borefest with the other two.
I know the thick Housemates are usually more popular cuz their fick innit.
But why do people seem to actually dislike Dan for being clever? Yes it's annoying that he seems to know everything but it's not something that people should evict him for over Sam and Sophie imo.
Hi Mockinator :thumbs:...It's not that he's intelligent that I have taken a dislike to Dan buddy...it's that the guy is too smug for me! :nono:
...but of course we all see it differently...you may think that my favourite hm's Dexter/Gina is smug?....and I suspect that you might agree with Joey that Sam is far too boring to collect the prize money...but they are my top three, and tbh I can't say that I really care what order the rest of them finish!...and when all's said and done, it's only a game..and perhaps we might agree on the next celebrity winner. :hugesmile:
Cheers buddy.
joeysteele
26-07-2013, 07:24 PM
Actually Dexter and Gina are my 2nd and 3rd placed housemates, with Sam in 4th.
I like all those and can see faults in all as well as many good points too as I do Dan too.
Dexter has had reason to seem smug at times when he has been put up for eviction so many times and survived.
Gina had a lot of problems with some housemates early on and rose above it all too.
Sam is totally harmless and I loved his chat with Callum in the task the other night, that was the bst thing I have seen on BB this series.
Then obviously I really like Dan, he has stirred things, he is annoying but he is always doing and saying something and that is why I think he certainly deserves to stay tonight.
Ironically it is also why I feel near sure now that he won't because he is so high profile of the 3 up.
Actually Dexter and Gina are my 2nd and 3rd placed housemates, with Sam in 4th.
I like all those and can see faults in all as well as many good points too as I do Dan too.
Dexter has had reason to seem smug at times when he has been put up for eviction so many times and survived.
Gina had a lot of problems with some housemates early on and rose above it all too.
Sam is totally harmless and I loved his chat with Callum in the task the other night, that was the bst thing I have seen on BB this series.
Then obviously I really like Dan, he has stirred things, he is annoying but he is always doing and saying something and that is why I think he certainly deserves to stay tonight.
Ironically it is also why I feel near sure now that he won't because he is so high profile of the 3 up.
Nice post Joey, and of course I agree with most of what you are saying my friend!...[but obviously not Dan, as I explained my reasons yesterday]
By the way...I really like Dexter then Gina most but would like Sam to win, because I feel that would be the best place for the money, for obvious reasons. :thumbs:
Cheers buddy.
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