Hazel: Sickening and Unjust

[rionablue]

I have never before seen such sickening and unjust targetting and defamatory comments about a housemate. I have watched BBBOTS the past few nights and seen a venomous audience hatered for Hazel showing on their faces and reflected by their comments, a panel that are all on the bandwagon also with the very common Tina Malone saying that she lured another womans man so she is evil.

Emma has commanded these shows and its very very obvious how she feels personally about Hazel as rarely has she said anything to Hazels defence. Hazel hasnt been involved any any rows, has only bitched less than Gina has had to suffer the humiliation of the last task, getting gunged, having to wear a snake suit, having to stand last in the poll of the housemates as she knew from the previous two days how much the public hate her. Now she has to worry about what kind of reception she will get from the baying crowd on her eviction.

This Hazel hatred is so unjust. If it was the horrible Charley Uchea or any of the other vile housemates from previous series I would understand. If I didnt like Hazel I would give very valid and CORRECT reasons why. Calling her a home wrecker??? really???? Other names she has been called have been the worst I have seen in my years in these forums. There is huge support for Gina who laughed in Hazels face when she had to wear the costume and laughed in the diary room saying how the public got it sooo right. Then when the housemates were saying they were feeling sorry for Hazel Gina went all quiet and I hoped she was feeling the same but oh no. She was asking why they were suddenly feeling sorry for Hazel when she Gina had had to endure stuff also!!!!

Sorry this thread is so long but I am sickened by it all

[smeagol]

the hate is crazy and way over the top, i dont get the mentality of people either.
the way people go on its like she has drowned a cat or something

[GiRTh]

I have never before seen such sickening and unjust targetting and defamatory comments about a housemate. I have watched BBBOTS the past few nights and seen a venomous audience hatered for Hazel showing on their faces and reflected by their comments, a panel that are all on the bandwagon also with the very common Tina Malone saying that she lured another womans man so she is evil.

Emma has commanded these shows and its very very obvious how she feels personally about Hazel as rarely has she said anything to Hazels defence. Hazel hasnt been involved any any rows, has only bitched less than Gina has had to suffer the humiliation of the last task, getting gunged, having to wear a snake suit, having to stand last in the poll of the housemates as she knew from the previous two days how much the public hate her. Now she has to worry about what kind of reception she will get from the baying crowd on her eviction.

This Hazel hatred is so unjust. If it was the horrible Charley Uchea or any of the other vile housemates from previous series I would understand. If I didnt like Hazel I would give very valid and CORRECT reasons why. Calling her a home wrecker??? really???? Other names she has been called have been the worst I have seen in my years in these forums. There is huge support for Gina who laughed in Hazels face when she had to wear the costume and laughed in the diary room saying how the public got it sooo right. Then when the housemates were saying they were feeling sorry for Hazel Gina went all quiet and I hoped she was feeling the same but oh no. She was asking why they were suddenly feeling sorry for Hazel when she Gina had had to endure stuff also!!!!

Sorry this thread is so long but I am sickened by it all:worship: Preach it!!!!!!

[the truth]

get used to it, shes a homewrecker and she violated another housemate

[Daffodil]

A woman in predatory mode is not a pretty sight. Being a model, Hazel could presumably take her pick of any gullible male. But that is not what she wants. She is the type who relishes catching a man, especially if he has a partner already. It is too easy for her. She is all over Dan and I think this is more a case of trying to get the unattainable. She enjoys a challenge.
Can't stand her personally. Take her makeup away! :cat:

[GiRTh]

A woman in predatory mode is not a pretty sight. Being a model, Hazel could presumably take her pick of any gullible male. But that is not what she wants. She is the type who relishes catching a man, especially if he has a partner already. It is too easy for her. She is all over Dan and I think this is more a case of trying to get the unattainable. She enjoys a challenge.
Can't stand her personally. Take her makeup away! :cat:This is the kind of comment that, for me, shows how irrational all the hate is. Its like they've seen 'women like Hazel' operate and now our chance to burn one of the witches. Its quite disturbing IMO the number assumptions that are made in that one sentence.

[rionablue]

You are both entitled to your opinions The truth and Daffodil but Daley could not be caught by Hazel unless he was willing. He knew what he had to lose and changed his story from definitely having a girlfriend to not sure if he had or not. If you watch back the highlights shows, for the first couple of weeks Hazel and Daley had hardly even had a conversation in the house. That is because he had made it very clear when he went in that he had a girlfriend then suddenly he was sitting next to her and spending time with her and yes she definitely flirted outragously with him but she DID say that she didnt want to be seen as someone who would come between him and his girlfriend. It was THEN that Daley said he wasnt sure he really had a girlfriend and that they had left it open until he got out of the house.

Hazel definitely fancied him and Katie Daleys gf said that from his body language he liked Hazel also. I know if I had a connection with a guy and he had a gf I would leave him alone but if he said that he didnt have one anymore of COURSE i would flirt with him. Daley was big enough and strong enough to tell Hazel back off, and even walk away from her but he didnt. I wouldnt ever call her a home wrecker specially when it was HIS decision what to do in the house and it was HE wasnt single. I am wondering does Hazels nationality have anything to do with why the public hate her so much. I would sincerely hope not. There were a few lynch mobs out for Keeva and Noirin also but to be honest in both their cases alot of the dislike was definitely justified. Hazel has done nothing wrong and Gina has been sickening the way she laughed in her face.

[CaudleHalbard]

There always has to be villain on BB to satisfy the baying crowds - including those on the internet.

Any villain gets OTT criticism and nothing they do is praised.

Just one of those things, I guess: human nature seems to require it (sadly).

[Gstar]

Another main factor of her hate is her looks, british people are extremely jealous

[Gstar]

apart from me

[bananarama]

I have never before seen such sickening and unjust targetting and defamatory comments about a housemate. I have watched BBBOTS the past few nights and seen a venomous audience hatered for Hazel showing on their faces and reflected by their comments, a panel that are all on the bandwagon also with the very common Tina Malone saying that she lured another womans man so she is evil.

Emma has commanded these shows and its very very obvious how she feels personally about Hazel as rarely has she said anything to Hazels defence. Hazel hasnt been involved any any rows, has only bitched less than Gina has had to suffer the humiliation of the last task, getting gunged, having to wear a snake suit, having to stand last in the poll of the housemates as she knew from the previous two days how much the public hate her. Now she has to worry about what kind of reception she will get from the baying crowd on her eviction.

This Hazel hatred is so unjust. If it was the horrible Charley Uchea or any of the other vile housemates from previous series I would understand. If I didnt like Hazel I would give very valid and CORRECT reasons why. Calling her a home wrecker??? really???? Other names she has been called have been the worst I have seen in my years in these forums. There is huge support for Gina who laughed in Hazels face when she had to wear the costume and laughed in the diary room saying how the public got it sooo right. Then when the housemates were saying they were feeling sorry for Hazel Gina went all quiet and I hoped she was feeling the same but oh no. She was asking why they were suddenly feeling sorry for Hazel when she Gina had had to endure stuff also!!!!

Sorry this thread is so long but I am sickened by it all


Agreed. But in fairness to Emma I have heard her say on many occassions that it takes two to tango. She also let an audience male member preach in defence of hazel and complimented him for standing up for woman.

A lot of the blame has to be directed at the BB production team themselves as they are goading the public to humiliate Hazel

[blue]

hazel bought this onto herself, i for one am very happy with the way she is being treated, she earned it.



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[Josy]

I have never before seen such sickening and unjust targetting and defamatory comments about a housemate. I have watched BBBOTS the past few nights and seen a venomous audience hatered for Hazel showing on their faces and reflected by their comments, a panel that are all on the bandwagon also with the very common Tina Malone saying that she lured another womans man so she is evil.

Emma has commanded these shows and its very very obvious how she feels personally about Hazel as rarely has she said anything to Hazels defence. Hazel hasnt been involved any any rows, has only bitched less than Gina has had to suffer the humiliation of the last task, getting gunged, having to wear a snake suit, having to stand last in the poll of the housemates as she knew from the previous two days how much the public hate her. Now she has to worry about what kind of reception she will get from the baying crowd on her eviction.

This Hazel hatred is so unjust. If it was the horrible Charley Uchea or any of the other vile housemates from previous series I would understand. If I didnt like Hazel I would give very valid and CORRECT reasons why. Calling her a home wrecker??? really???? Other names she has been called have been the worst I have seen in my years in these forums. There is huge support for Gina who laughed in Hazels face when she had to wear the costume and laughed in the diary room saying how the public got it sooo right. Then when the housemates were saying they were feeling sorry for Hazel Gina went all quiet and I hoped she was feeling the same but oh no. She was asking why they were suddenly feeling sorry for Hazel when she Gina had had to endure stuff also!!!!

Sorry this thread is so long but I am sickened by it all

So let me get this right...if it was a housemate that you thought of as vile or horrible then the treatment would be ok? because that's what this post sounds like to me.

[Kris]

Daley said in the beginning he had a girlfriend and only changed it to he wasn't sure and it was left up in the air when he decided he wanted Hazel. She knew that and even said herself in the begining that Daley was off limits because of having a gf, until she decided she didn't care anymore. She also said on more than one occasion that he was the one who was attached not her so it wasn't her problem. They were absolutely as bad as each other. But for her part, she didn't care who she made uncomfortable being around it, got a kick out of getting him aroused and teasing, walking around in tiny mini skirts with no knickers on and was just evil.

As far as I'm concerned she's getting what she deserves.

[aman201]

She's scum.

I'd shag her though.

[Jordan.]

Why are people being so OTT about Hazels treatment? It's just a tv show, once she's out no one will care.

[bananarama]

Why are people being so OTT about Hazels treatment? It's just a tv show, once she's out no one will care.

The most obvious observation is that the OTT is coming from the haters not the defenders......

[Josy]

Why are people being so OTT about Hazels treatment? It's just a tv show, once she's out no one will care.

Who knows Jordan, it's as if some people think she's above criticism too :shrug:

I have actually saw more threads on here moaning about Hazel being hated than I have saw threads where people are actually making hateful comments about her...

[anne666]

Agreed. But in fairness to Emma I have heard her say on many occassions that it takes two to tango. She also let an audience male member preach in defence of hazel and complimented him for standing up for woman.

A lot of the blame has to be directed at the BB production team themselves as they are goading the public to humiliate Hazel

I agree. Your avatar,Helen is it? she got together with a man in a relationship didn't she?

[the truth]

This is the kind of comment that, for me, shows how irrational all the hate is. Its like they've seen 'women like Hazel' operate and now our chance to burn one of the witches. Its quite disturbing IMO the number assumptions that are made in that one sentence.

rubbish its 100% rational shes a devious biatch who steals other peoples lovers to try and get some fame and money for herself....she even goes so low as to try to humiliate him and his family by sexually violating him against his will and tearing his pants off to expose his genitialia....if a man did that to any woman he would probably end up in jail not a mere gung task

[Jordan.]

Who knows Jordan, it's as if some people think she's above criticism too :shrug:

I have actually saw more threads on here moaning about Hazel being hated than I have saw threads where people are actually making hateful comments about her...

I know lol, other that what's happened in the task this week I thought the Hazel hate had actually died down far less than when Daley was in there.

[the truth]

bit disturbing how some oirish posters are showing such bias for a homewrecker who has been gunged twice....big deal....she at least as a chance to get some self pity votes from the weak minded.....but even after that shes deservedly been voted house snake.

[anne666]

Interesting if it's true that the police are investigating the whole nasty business.

[CaudleHalbard]

Interesting if it's true that the police are investigating the whole nasty business.

Knowing Hazel's luck she's the one who will probably end up getting prosecuted! ;)

[rionablue]

So let me get this right...if it was a housemate that you thought of as vile or horrible then the treatment would be ok? because that's what this post sounds like to me.

Its never just to call people vicious horrible names. That said I could understand why people didnt like Noirin or Keeva as they were sly and conniving for the most part. I havent seen that in Hazel so you have misunderstood what I was saying Josy By the way I liked both Noirin and Keeva but they both had quite nasty sides so I wouldnt have defended them if people didnt like them. However there are other words to use to denote you dont like a housemate besides some of the appaling words that have been used on here

[anne666]

Knowing Hazel's luck she's the one who will probably end up getting prosecuted! ;)

MM I very much doubt it but lets wait and see. It's all on film, even the prelude which was conveniently edited out for the main show. Then the video vanished from youtube? BB got something to hide or cover themselves for? I think so.

[rionablue]

rubbish its 100% rational shes a devious biatch who steals other peoples lovers to try and get some fame and money for herself....she even goes so low as to try to humiliate him and his family by sexually violating him against his will and tearing his pants off to expose his genitialia....if a man did that to any woman he would probably end up in jail not a mere gung task

That is an awful unjust and horrible thing to say the truth. What about what DALEY did to her, put his hands on her throat used appalling language, threatened her slapped her hard and told her what she should wear or how much make up she should wear. Or did you have blinkers on when all that happened. You really hate her dont you?

[vivparker]

if Dexter had been voted the biggest snake, gunged and put last in the pecking order, would anyone moan about it? No, I don't think so! She's playing the poor innocent girly card at the moment. isnt it about time that the housemates wonder what the public have seen that they havent?

[bananarama]

rubbish its 100% rational shes a devious biatch who steals other peoples lovers to try and get some fame and money for herself....she even goes so low as to try to humiliate him and his family by sexually violating him against his will and tearing his pants off to expose his genitialia....if a man did that to any woman he would probably end up in jail not a mere gung task

No mention of Daley's behavour I see. As for the pulling the pants down its happened on other series and a telling off was sufficient then so is sufficient now.

Its an OTT reaction about the pants pulling. remember the two of them were quite sexually provocative with each other. both drunk pants pulling probably an inevitable conclusion.

Its true a woman can get away with that but a man would be put on the sex offenders register.

What was disturbing was seeing a drunk man with his hands arround a womans throat along with offensive threats. He deserved to thrown out. He just a waster of a woman intimidator

[anne666]

That is an awful unjust and horrible thing to say the truth. What about what DALEY did to her, put his hands on her throat used appalling language, threatened her slapped her hard and told her what she should wear or how much make up she should wear. Or did you have blinkers on when all that happened. You really hate her dont you?

This is a lost cause with some people I'm afraid. Ignorance of the law doesn't help either.

[bananarama]

That is an awful unjust and horrible thing to say the truth. What about what DALEY did to her, put his hands on her throat used appalling language, threatened her slapped her hard and told her what she should wear or how much make up she should wear. Or did you have blinkers on when all that happened. You really hate her dont you?

He had blinkers on along with a closed mind......

[CaudleHalbard]

MM I very much doubt it but lets wait and see. It's all on film, even the prelude which was conveniently edited out for the main show. Then the video vanished from youtube? BB got something to hide or cover themselves for? I think so.

I imagine Endemol's lawyers have influenced that.

Both parties committed assaults. One of Hazel's would probably be classed as indecent assault, which is normally considered serious and (possibly) more serious than a threatened, but not carried out, head butt.

We shall see. I expect neither party will press charges and it will all be quietly dropped.

[Josy]

Its never just to call people vicious horrible names. That said I could understand why people didnt like Noirin or Keeva as they were sly and conniving for the most part. I havent seen that in Hazel so you have misunderstood what I was saying Josy By the way I liked both Noirin and Keeva but they both had quite nasty sides so I wouldnt have defended them if people didnt like them. However there are other words to use to denote you dont like a housemate besides some of the appaling words that have been used on here

Not everyone uses appalling words or names though and post exactly why they don't like Hazel but yet these threads are constantly popping up about how much hate she's getting, have you actually seen the hatred some of the other housemates are having aimed at them? namely Callum and Dexter but yet theres more threads about the Hazel hatred being unfair than anyone else.

Also today I have saw people saying Gina was to blame then Dexter was to blame now it's Emma?? don't you think people could possible have watched Hazel on the show for weeks and simply made their own minds up about her??

I honestly think most of these threads are a case of being pissed off that the housemate you like is not liked by the public..

Lots of housemates over the years have been called nasty names too, when they sign up for bb they obviously know not everyone is going to love them it's part and parcel of the show, they will be evicted booed for a bit then it will all die down and be forgotten about..

[anne666]

No mention of Daley's behavour I see. As for the pulling the pants down its happened on other series and a telling off was sufficient then so is sufficient now.

Its an OTT reaction about the pants pulling. remember the two of them were quite sexually provocative with each other. both drunk pants pulling probably an inevitable conclusion.

Its true a woman can get away with that but a man would be put on the sex offenders register.

What was disturbing was seeing a drunk man with his hands arround a womans throat along with offensive threats. He deserved to thrown out. He just a waster of a woman intimidator
Yes and just before that he assaulted her, no mitigating circumstances.It will be very interesting to see what action, if any, the police take.They do have a duty to protect the public.

[lime]

Not everyone uses appalling words or names though and post exactly why they don't like Hazel but yet these threads are constantly popping up about how much hate she's getting, have you actually seen the hatred some of the other housemates are having aimed at them? namely Callum and Dexter but yet theres more threads about the Hazel hatred being unfair than anyone else.

Also today I have saw people saying Gina was to blame then Dexter was to blame now it's Emma?? don't you think people could possible have watched Hazel on the show for weeks and simply made their own minds up about her??

I honestly think most of these threads are a case of being pissed off that the housemate you like is not liked by the public..

Lots of housemates over the years have been called nasty names too, when they sign up for bb they obviously know not everyone is going to love them it's part and parcel of the show, they will be evicted booed for a bit then it will all die down and be forgotten about..
:worship:

[anne666]

I imagine Endemol's lawyers have influenced that.

Both parties committed assaults. One of Hazel's would probably be classed as indecent assault, which is normally considered serious and (possibly) more serious than a threatened, but not carried out, head butt.

We shall see. I expect neither party will press charges and it will all be quietly dropped.

I think you are totally wrong. Hazels actions were NOT indecent assault. Sexual incitement I think you will find. He would be laughed out of court with such a ridiculous claim. He struck her and threatened her with violence, both criminal acts.

[anne666]

Also, does Hazel have to press charges? I don't think so.

[Speedster]

She's scum.

I'd shag her though.


She wouldn't shag you. Bet that's why you really think she's scum. :xyxwave:

[bananarama]

She wouldn't shag you. Bet that's why you really think she's scum. :xyxwave:

Well said.....and very very true.

[Marsh.]

get used to it, shes a homewrecker and she violated another housemate

Was there a home to wreck?

If Daley so willingly goes around telling women he "likes them" and initiates flirting then he already wrecked his relationship.

I'm not saying Hazel is an angel, she didn't do the decent thing and try to stop it.

But this piling all the blame on Hazel, whilst Daley is the poor little victim is disgusting. HE wrecked his relationship, no one else.

[CaudleHalbard]

The police are sometimes forced into the position of doing something by force of public opinion.

There was a time when they would almost never intervene in a 'domestic'. That has changed somewhat but there is still a reluctance where there hasn't been a complaint from one of the parties.

You can bet your bottom dollar that neither Daley not Hazel will lodge a complaint unless their respective PR people advise them to - which they certainly wont.

[rionablue]

Not everyone uses appalling words or names though and post exactly why they don't like Hazel but yet these threads are constantly popping up about how much hate she's getting, have you actually seen the hatred some of the other housemates are having aimed at them? namely Callum and Dexter but yet theres more threads about the Hazel hatred being unfair than anyone else.

Also today I have saw people saying Gina was to blame then Dexter was to blame now it's Emma?? don't you think people could possible have watched Hazel on the show for weeks and simply made their own minds up about her??

I honestly think most of these threads are a case of being pissed off that the housemate you like is not liked by the public..

Lots of housemates over the years have been called nasty names too, when they sign up for bb they obviously know not everyone is going to love them it's part and parcel of the show, they will be evicted booed for a bit then it will all die down and be forgotten about..

I held my hands up when Hazel was over doing the flirting and I felt embarrassed watchin it and I said so. It put her to my second favourite on my list of housemates which she had topped since week one. I am open to negative comments about my favourite housemate of course I am but the kind of stuff on here is dreadful and I just cant see the justification for it. Hazels problem was she flirted too much with Daley and kept asking for hugs but this was ONLY after Daley telling her he didnt have a girlfriend anymore. Yes she teased him in the safe house, no doubt about that but no matter what she didnt deserve what he did to her and in the eyes of anyone surely he deserved being thrown out of the house. Hazel is no saint and I have never proclaimed her to be but I just have never seen anything like the threads here calling her all kinds of names, the audience and panelists on BBBOTS and their complete and utter loathing of her

[DanielLuis]

Some of the thing she did were not good, but this recation is just so over the top.
Poor Hazel, I can't even imagine how ridiculous the crowd will be during her interview.

[bananarama]

I imagine Endemol's lawyers have influenced that.

Both parties committed assaults. One of Hazel's would probably be classed as indecent assault, which is normally considered serious and (possibly) more serious than a threatened, but not carried out, head butt.

We shall see. I expect neither party will press charges and it will all be quietly dropped.

Wrong. Hazel did not commit an assault. Daley commited the assault along with verbal thtreats.

Hazel was genuinly play fighting with a man unil then she trusted. Pants pulling is probably one of the most done thing in play fights. True they were on TV and drunk and a slip of the memory about cameras made it an offensive thing to do in front of the public.

But remember it can only be offensive to the public if the TV station chooses to broadcast and not censor it.

If the public have been offended CH5 is to blame.......

[CaudleHalbard]

The hatred seems OTT.

[Josy]

I held my hands up when Hazel was over doing the flirting and I felt embarrassed watchin it and I said so. It put her to my second favourite on my list of housemates which she had topped since week one. I am open to negative comments about my favourite housemate of course I am but the kind of stuff on here is dreadful and I just cant see the justification for it. Hazels problem was she flirted too much with Daley and kept asking for hugs but this was ONLY after Daley telling her he didnt have a girlfriend anymore. Yes she teased him in the safe house, no doubt about that but no matter what she didnt deserve what he did to her and in the eyes of anyone surely he deserved being thrown out of the house. Hazel is no saint and I have never proclaimed her to be but I just have never seen anything like the threads here calling her all kinds of names, the audience and panelists on BBBOTS and their complete and utter loathing of her

Again you go back to the Daley thing when tons of people including myself have said they disliked her even before those 2 started getting close, of course what Daley done was absolutely horrible, I don't see a lot of people denying that.

Hazel however is 100% responsible for her actions in the house, no one else can be blamed.

[boomoo]

the hate is crazy and way over the top, i dont get the mentality of people either.
the way people go on its like she has drowned a cat or something

It is called jumping on the band wagon. People seem to want to be one of the crowd and they just dont think.
I think if an honest presenter reran the early tapes they would see that it was Daley who set himself up to target Hazel.

But all the presenters and psychos (I mean so called analysts) have labelled Callum as some form of serial killer. All because Jackie Travers did not want Charlie anywhere near him.
Dan has a problem with Callum (while persisting he likes him scared of noms) and then he says, But I dont know I can't work him out. With all his years of experience he should know there is nothing to work out. Despite extreme provcation from Dexter Callum has never ever looked threatening despite Dexter suggesting the opposite.

That is the two housemates who have been badmouthed continuosly.

[GiRTh]

Again you go back to the Daley thing when tons of people including myself have said they disliked her even before those 2 started getting close, of course what Daley done was absolutely horrible, I don't see a lot of people denying that.

Hazel however is 100% responsible for her actions in the house, no one else can be blamed.
I see quite a few people denying Daley did anything wrong or they never mention anything when they go thru their rather selective recollection of the events.

[BigBuk]

Lets face it females only dislike her because she is hot. Its just jealousy, I dont like her nor dislike her. I've personally not seen a male slate her. As for the "homewrecker" name id ludacris. Daley made his own choices, he was in a relationship, Hazel wasn't. its Daleys fault if anyones.

[halfacrown]

The venom is unnecessary but there is surely no problem if people simply don't like her. Lots of viewers seem to have taken against her but she's not being victimized in the house. We've seen people treated dreadfully by BB and housemates before, night after night: see Freddie in series 10.

[CaudleHalbard]

Wrong. Hazel did not commit an assault. Daley commited the assault along with verbal thtreats.

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You obviously know very little about law. :) Let me try and explain.

It does not matter about the intent (playfight or whatever). Technical assaults were committed by both parties.

Hazel kicked out at Daley, pressed a pillow over his face and pulled his pants down. 3 assaults.

Daley slapped her bum and held her down with a threat to headbutt her. 2 assaults.

Both parties have put themselves at risk of prosecution. However, in the circumstances, it is likely the police would only recommend a prosecution to the CPS if one of the parties formally complained. But that would risk the other party also complaining.

They could both end up in court on assault charges but it is extremely unlikely.

[Josy]

I see quite a few people denying Daley did anything wrong or they never mention anything when they go thru their rather selective recollection of the events.

I don't...

[GiRTh]

I don't...Theres one in this thread.

[Josy]

Theres one in this thread.

Yeah I'm aware of that Girth and if you look at my reply again I said..

I don't see a lot of people denying that.

[the truth]

No mention of Daley's behavour I see. As for the pulling the pants down its happened on other series and a telling off was sufficient then so is sufficient now.

Its an OTT reaction about the pants pulling. remember the two of them were quite sexually provocative with each other. both drunk pants pulling probably an inevitable conclusion.

Its true a woman can get away with that but a man would be put on the sex offenders register.

What was disturbing was seeing a drunk man with his hands arround a womans throat along with offensive threats. He deserved to thrown out. He just a waster of a woman intimidator

why would I be discussing daleys behaviour for the 100-th time this is a thread about hazel....everyone agrees he was right to be booted....the next question what about her role in the fiasco? personally Id have booted her too

[GiRTh]

Yeah I'm aware of that Girth and if you look at my reply again I said..Look at my reply. I see quite a few including one in the very same thread.

[Josy]

And I don't see that many saying it, like I have already posted...this could go on for a while so I will just bow out now.

[Kate!]

Both Callum, who I like, and Dexter, who I don't, get far more hate on here than Hazel does. Probably because they are arch enemies so each others fan understandably are against them.

Hazel made her bed by behaving the way she did in the house. People, including Emma Willis have the right to express their opinions on here or on tv. This is what housemates have to expect from going on BB, the shows been going long enough for nobody to be under any illusions, housemates every single move is open to criticism.

[CaudleHalbard]

I think all the hate for Hazel is because she is seen as (a) instigator of the "relationship" - flinging herself at Daley etc and (b) getting too light a punishment from BB.

Hence people wanting to punish her with gunging (twice), tarantula-eating, snake costume wearing etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few more punishments coming her way next week!

[Vanessa]

Loved her task today. She ate the lot without even blinking. Respect where it's due. :worship:

[Marsh.]

I think all the hate for Hazel is because she is seen as (a) instigator of the "relationship" - flinging herself at Daley etc and (b) getting too light a punishment from B

Then those people need to re-watch the show and they'd see Daley was the instigator.

Doesn't excuse her own decision to get involved with him, but it doesn't warrant the abuse she's receiving weeks later either.

Because outside of the Daley situation I fail to see what exactly has she done to warrant such hatred. People just not liking her is fine, but I would have expected Grace or Charley level of behaviour to warrant the treatment she gets on BOTS and online.

I asked this question to another poster and he mentioned her reaction to Charlie's comment about her boyfriend's suicide which left me beyond baffled.

[the truth]

Then those people need to re-watch the show and they'd see Daley was the instigator.

Doesn't excuse her own decision to get involved with him, but it doesn't warrant the abuse she's receiving weeks later either.

Because outside of the Daley situation I fail to see what exactly has she done to warrant such hatred. People just not liking her is fine, but I would have expected Grace or Charley level of behaviour to warrant the treatment she gets on BOTS and online.

I asked this question to another poster and he mentioned her reaction to Charlie's comment about her boyfriend's suicide which left me beyond baffled.
no there is no way on earth you can prove one instigated this more than the other.....both were idiotic participants and both must face the consequences

[Livia]

hazel bought this onto herself, i for one am very happy with the way she is being treated, she earned it.



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How about the way Daley's been treated? Is that okay with you?

[Kate!]

Lets face it females only dislike her because she is hot. Its just jealousy, I dont like her nor dislike her. I've personally not seen a male slate her. As for the "homewrecker" name id ludacris. Daley made his own choices, he was in a relationship, Hazel wasn't. its Daleys fault if anyones.

Oh god not this again. I don't like Hazel so I'm jealous of her. Smh. No I'm really not. I dislike her because I find her a horrible person. I've supported many good looking female housemates over the years of BB, because I've liked them as housemates and their personalities. I don't see Hazel as good looking because I find her personality ugly so would never be able to warm to her.

[rionablue]

Oh god not this again. I don't like Hazel so I'm jealous of her. Smh. No I'm really not. I dislike her because I find her a horrible person. I've supported many good looking female housemates over the years of BB, because I've liked them as housemates and their personalities. I don't see Hazel as good looking because I find her personality ugly so would never be able to warm to her.

Why is she a horrible person? Because she flirted outrageously with Daley knowing she was playing with fire? Ok I might give ya that one. But what else has she done OUTSIDE of the Daley situation to make you think she is horrible. She hasnt fought with anyone, been overly bitchy with anyone, she has got stuck into all the tasks, she has remained loyal to Dan and Charlie who have been her best mates in there, she has helped around the house, she hasnt griped about being gunged etc etc. So what is it you dont like her about her OUTSIDE of the thing with Daley? Fair question Kate

[Marsh.]

no there is no way on earth you can prove one instigated this more than the other.....both were idiotic participants and both must face the consequences

By "instigated" I mean he was the one to first express feelings towards Hazel, telling her "I like you" then leading her to reciprocate.
It's all there for you to watch.

I'm not saying this alleviates her blame, I'm saying if people are going to blame everything they can find on Hazel then they need to get their facts right.

He was not lured away from his girlfriend by Hazel, he willingly participated. Fact is, he approached Hazel. As much as people like to believe he's a poor little victim who can't think for himself and was seduced by the Queen of Tarts, he wasn't. He knew what he was doing but did it anyway. Even going as far as to lie about his relationship status, as confirmed by Katie.

[Pink Pegasus]

Its never just to call people vicious horrible names. That said I could understand why people didnt like Noirin or Keeva as they were sly and conniving for the most part. I havent seen that in Hazel so you have misunderstood what I was saying Josy By the way I liked both Noirin and Keeva but they both had quite nasty sides so I wouldnt have defended them if people didnt like them. However there are other words to use to denote you dont like a housemate besides some of the appaling words that have been used on here

But Riona, you have called ex hm Ashleigh a 'slapper', and you have said Gina sits there 'caked in makeup' with her fake hair, and her 'fake tits hanging out' everywhere, you have also called Gina a 'tart' who wears the most 'slapperish' clothes you've seen, and also called her a horrible 'whinging bitch'.
You consistently comment rather harshly about Gina yet when someone criticizes Hazel, you say that they are just 'Jealous, jealous, jealous' as if that could be the only reason aside from the Daley flirting.

Would you not find it irritating if every time you said you didn't like Gina, you got dismissed as being 'just jealous'?

Like Josy, I also didn't like Hazel much long before the Daley situation.
I don't hate her, I just don't find her very likeable. Any time I warm to her it's usually when she is a bit tipsy and joking about. I liked watching her and Dan or her and Charlie having a laugh together because you see glimpses of a fun girl. I also feel a bit sorry for her lately.

However the majority of the time she has just too hard of a personality. It is good to show strength and confidence but there is no need to go overboard and be too hard. It makes her come across like a cold person, who is just focused on themselves/career and who might be a bit ruthless.
I watched her tonight on live feed telling Charlie that she was deliberately restricting herself from crying or showing any emotion. If she was less hardnosed and showed a warmer side to her personality and stopped with the tough act I think people would warm to her a lot more.

She doesn't bother me too much. I'm disliking Sophie way more at the minute. But I hate that people who don't like Hazel just get accused of being jealous. For some that may be the case, but for plenty others they just have their own reasons for not liking her. It is defo not just to do with the Daley situation. [For the record I think he is a prick] People disliked her before the flirting too.

I've never 'hated' her but I've warmed a bit more than usual to her recently. I'm aware though that this may be just because I feel a bit sorry for her.

[Kizzy]

You obviously know very little about law. :) Let me try and explain.

It does not matter about the intent (playfight or whatever). Technical assaults were committed by both parties.

Hazel kicked out at Daley, pressed a pillow over his face and pulled his pants down. 3 assaults.

Daley slapped her bum and held her down with a threat to headbutt her. 2 assaults.

Both parties have put themselves at risk of prosecution. However, in the circumstances, it is likely the police would only recommend a prosecution to the CPS if one of the parties formally complained. But that would risk the other party also complaining.

They could both end up in court on assault charges but it is extremely unlikely.

So you class all assaults the same, and these are calculated by the method in your post?....

He pinned hazel using excessive force in his restraint,
issues threats and intimidating and abusive language,
Makes a physical assaults ( slap on the bottom, hands to the throat)

is this not 4 'assaults'?

[swinearefine]

I actually found it really uncomfortable seeing Hazel getting voted all of the worst things in the task, having her name chanted, everyone saying she should have been ejected... It just reeks of sexism and bullying and downplaying what Daley did to her. I've disliked Hazel pretty much since the start, but I feel terrible for her and I hope she makes the final just as a **** you to everyone who gives her ****.

[vortex]

Felt bad for what happen between her and Daley but everything else she brought it on herself, she's a grown woman to know what's right from wrong, the fact alone that she assumes that she did nothing wrong when given the snake costume makes things even worse for her.

She got a warning over pulling Daley's shorts and exposing his private parts, if this would have been the other way around the man would have been removed inmediatly.

[aman201]

She wouldn't shag you. Bet that's why you really think she's scum. :xyxwave:

Well said.....and very very true.

Yeah, that's why i hate her. :joker:

Mugs.

[Marsh.]

Felt bad for what happen between her and Daley but everything else she brought it on herself, she's a grown woman to know what's right from wrong, the fact alone that she assumes that she did nothing wrong when given the snake costume makes things even worse for her.

She got a warning over pulling Daley's shorts and exposing his private parts, if this would have been the other way around the man would have been removed inmediatly.

Tbh, I'm struggling to understand the "snake" comments just as much as she is and I'm not locked in the house.

You say "everything else" presumably outside of the Daley stuff, so what exactly has she done outside of the Daley stuff? I'm at a loss.

[Kate!]

Why is she a horrible person? Because she flirted outrageously with Daley knowing she was playing with fire? Ok I might give ya that one. But what else has she done OUTSIDE of the Daley situation to make you think she is horrible. She hasnt fought with anyone, been overly bitchy with anyone, she has got stuck into all the tasks, she has remained loyal to Dan and Charlie who have been her best mates in there, she has helped around the house, she hasnt griped about being gunged etc etc. So what is it you dont like her about her OUTSIDE of the thing with Daley? Fair question Kate

Course it's a fair question, and I'll answer it. I didn't like her on first impressions way before anything with Daley, and nothing has happened to change my opinion, rather her actions have only reinforced my feelings about her. She isn't my most disliked housemate overall, that would be the twins.

You can't stop people disliking her by being so forceful, it feels like your saying I have no right to dislike her and it's all down to the Daley situation, but the situation showed her for the person (in my personal opinion) I believe her to be, and do not like.

Whatever storylines any housemate has in the house will always define them and give a damm good indication of their true personality, their actions are how we viewers judge them, and I am not saying Hazel is evil through and through and has no redeeming features, but I do not like her, and never will.

You see nice things in her and that's fine, but don't imply I am out of order for my preference please.

[MrWong]

But Riona, you have called ex hm Ashleigh a 'slapper', and you have said Gina sits there 'caked in makeup' with her fake hair, and her 'fake tits hanging out' everywhere, you have also called Gina a 'tart' who wears the most 'slapperish' clothes you've seen, and also called her a horrible 'whinging bitch'.
You consistently comment rather harshly about Gina yet when someone criticizes Hazel, you say that they are just 'Jealous, jealous, jealous' as if that could be the only reason aside from the Daley flirting.

:joker: Doh!

The lame 'jealous' accusations could easily be countered by the equally lame 'you only support her cause she's hot' accusation.

[Northern Monkey]

I agree OP.Alot of jealously and sexism involved.She is a beautiful nice girl.

[Marsh.]

I don't think sexism is involved in people disliking her in general. That's fair enough.

The highly disproportionate hate she generates by people like the BOTS audience on the other hand definitely is.

[kistar]

Daley said in the beginning he had a girlfriend and only changed it to he wasn't sure and it was left up in the air when he decided he wanted Hazel. She knew that and even said herself in the begining that Daley was off limits because of having a gf, until she decided she didn't care anymore. She also said on more than one occasion that he was the one who was attached not her so it wasn't her problem. They were absolutely as bad as each other. But for her part, she didn't care who she made uncomfortable being around it, got a kick out of getting him aroused and teasing, walking around in tiny mini skirts with no knickers on and was just evil.

As far as I'm concerned she's getting what she deserves.

Exactly , what did she think was going to happen after announcing to the world she was wearing her white body con dress on eviction night without any knickers, Daley knew she hadn't shaved her daisy so she obviously gave him an extended preview of the whole situation , if you are going to act like that expect criticism.

[kistar]

Lets face it females only dislike her because she is hot. Its just jealousy, I dont like her nor dislike her. I've personally not seen a male slate her. As for the "homewrecker" name id ludacris. Daley made his own choices, he was in a relationship, Hazel wasn't. its Daleys fault if anyones.

Why is it if a girl dislikes a hot girl it is assumed we are jealous, a lot of girls on this forum are gorgeous what have we got to be jealous of?if you don't agree with what some one does or how they behave maybe just maybe it goes against your personal integrity.

I think as women we celebrate beauty amongst each other rather than despise it, what I don't like personally though is a sexy girl like Hazel making a play for a guy with a potential girlfriend, plus using her sexiness to make him aroused and when he asked her to stop it she just carried on and laughed at him .

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

[kistar]

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

What I don't understand though is why didn't she know what she was doing and how provocative she was being would cause all this hatred.She says she has been a model for years and used to the controversy that follows yet just adds to that when she had the perfect opportunity to silence everyone .

[Kate!]

Why is it if a girl dislikes a hot girl it is assumed we are jealous, a lot of girls on this forum are gorgeous what have we got to be jealous of?if you don't agree with what some one does or how they behave maybe just maybe it goes against your personal integrity.

I think as women we celebrate beauty amongst each other rather than despise it, what I don't like personally though is a sexy girl like Hazel making a play for a guy with a potential girlfriend, plus using her sexiness to make him aroused and when he asked her to stop it she just carried on and laughed at him .

perfectly said.

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

It's all part and parcel of going on BB, anyone who takes part knows the score by now, nobody made her behave that way.

However, yes the crowd do go too far, she hasn't murdered anyone and they are like a lynch mob sometimes :rolleyes: I'm not a fan, but Emma should take her into the studio for her interview then we can actually hear it, it will be an interesting one.

[Marsh.]

What I don't understand though is why didn't she know what she was doing and how provocative she was being would cause all this hatred.She says she has been a model for years and used to the controversy that follows yet just adds to that when she had the perfect opportunity to silence everyone .

But does said flirting warrant such extreme hatred?
She backed off and only when Daley welcomed her in did she start flirting, no excuse for her reciprocating of course, but how on earth does this make her worse than him as though she's an evil witch that cast a spell on him?
He made his own choices, he knew what he was doing.

As confirmed by Katie, he outright lied about his relationship status by pretending they weren't actually an item.

And her behaviour outside of the Daley situation doesn't warrant it either, she's been pretty much in the background.

Nothing anyone says makes sense to me. Just highlights the unfair judgements on a woman who's done the same thing as the bloke (contrary to popular belief we're not all slaves to our erections and can actually engage our brains to make mature decisions if we want to).

Just what sin has she committed to welcome such vitriol?

[the truth]

But does said flirting warrant such extreme hatred?
She backed off and only when Daley welcomed her in did she start flirting, no excuse for her reciprocating of course, but how on earth does this make her worse than him as though she's an evil witch that cast a spell on him?
He made his own choices, he knew what he was doing.

As confirmed by Katie, he outright lied about his relationship status by pretending they weren't actually an item.

And her behaviour outside of the Daley situation doesn't warrant it either, she's been pretty much in the background.

Nothing anyone says makes sense to me. Just highlights the unfair judgements on a woman who's done the same thing as the bloke (contrary to popular belief we're not all slaves to our erections and can actually engage our brains to make mature decisions if we want to).

Just what sin has she committed to welcome such vitriol?

yes it does. homewrecking liars who violate fellow housemates deserve stick.
shes lucky she wasn't chucked out and has had weeks to try and get some sympathy vote from the public and even that isn't washing

[Marsh.]

yes it does. homewrecking liars who violate fellow housemates deserve stick.
shes lucky she wasn't chucked out and has had weeks to try and get some sympathy vote from the public and even that isn't washing

So, why may I ask does Daley not receive the same treatment?

On BOTS for example he was interviewed, spoken to and spoken about as though he was a victim of Hazel as opposed to an equally guilty participant in their relationship.

Can you explain the large difference in treatment?

[kistar]

It's not that she has committed a sin as such it is obvious to me though that her behaviour would be seen as controversial, a beautiful very sexy girl on national tv talking about her lack of underwear to a guy with a potential girlfriend , wearing tops without a bra and making a point of giving the same guy long hugs until he got aroused and then when he mentioned it going back and giving him another hug is surely just stupidity beyond all things.

[the truth]

it is sickening an unjust how she wasn't booted with daley....instead shes just wasted away they trying win some sympathy....an opportunity she didn't deserve

[Marsh.]

It's not that she has committed a sin as such it is obvious to me though that her behaviour would be seen as controversial, a beautiful very sexy girl on national tv talking about her lack of underwear to a guy with a potential girlfriend , wearing tops without a bra and making a point of giving the same guy long hugs until he got aroused and then when he mentioned it going back and giving him another hug is surely just stupidity beyond all things.

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too. :laugh:

[the truth]

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too. :laugh:

so does she

[kistar]

So, why may I ask does Daley not receive the same treatment?

On BOTS for example he was interviewed, spoken to and spoken about as though he was a victim of Hazel as opposed to an equally guilty participant in their relationship.

Can you explain the large difference in treatment?

If you asked me to comment on Daley I would say he was a 100% t**t who was wishy washy about his relationship with his girlfriend the minute he thought he had a chance with Hazel , he is an idiot, I cannot comment on his anger or violence towards women but I have strong feelings about that whole subject.

[Marsh.]

If you asked me to comment on Daley I would say he was a 100% t**t who was wishy washy about his relationship with his girlfriend the minute he thought he had a chance with Hazel , he is an idiot, I cannot comment on his anger or violence towards women but I have strong feelings about that whole subject.

Which is why I have no problem with people like yourself.

It's the general consensus and BOTS crowd that I detest. But then it's too much to ask that they have a single brain cell between them.

[kistar]

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too. :laugh:

No one says you are brainless and in that you act responsibly, you must know guys who go out and act like idiots to girls, have sex with as many as possible tell them what they want to hear, then as soon as they get what they want leave and boast about it all to their mates , in the same way you would no doubt dislike a guy like that I don't like how Hazel was with Daley.

[rionablue]

Course it's a fair question, and I'll answer it. I didn't like her on first impressions way before anything with Daley, and nothing has happened to change my opinion, rather her actions have only reinforced my feelings about her. She isn't my most disliked housemate overall, that would be the twins.

You can't stop people disliking her by being so forceful, it feels like your saying I have no right to dislike her and it's all down to the Daley situation, but the situation showed her for the person (in my personal opinion) I believe her to be, and do not like.

Whatever storylines any housemate has in the house will always define them and give a damm good indication of their true personality, their actions are how we viewers judge them, and I am not saying Hazel is evil through and through and has no redeeming features, but I do not like her, and never will.

You see nice things in her and that's fine, but don't imply I am out of order for my preference please.

Ok Kate I accept you dont like her. I was wondering what else about her you didnt like You said you didnt like her from first impressions why was that? Was it because of her VT? Or something she said or did? I know I cant stop people disliking her but for instance I say I dislike Gina cos she is lazy, doesnt do anything around the house, wants to be the centre of attention, was ordering Dexter to carry her case from the safe house, was mad cos some of the housemates felt sorry for Hazel saying that she Gina had had to endure worse situations, has constantly backstabbed Hazel and ok she has said it to her face also but is trying to influence the other housemates also, has blown all hot and cold with Dexter, etc etc. Im backing up all the reasons I dont like Gina. I was just kind of asking you if there were other reasons you didnt like Hazel which was fair. There was no offence intended. Peace :blush:

[GiRTh]

According to a thread on DS Daley was on the radio today discussing the incident. Apparently he's only sorry to Katie and Hazel and him knew they were play fighting. Did anyone hear it?

[CaudleHalbard]

According to a thread on DS Daley was on the radio today discussing the incident. Apparently he's only sorry to Katie and Hazel and him knew they were play fighting. Did anyone hear it?

He's certainly getting around isn't he!

I think he's capitalising on the Hazel-hate currently around and earning a few quid in the bargain. Once BB is over it will be "Daley Who? Hazel Who?".......they will be forgotten.

Except for sad places like TiBB, where we'll be arguing about them for a while yet. ;)

[Marsh.]

No one says you are brainless and in that you act responsibly, you must know guys who go out and act like idiots to girls, have sex with as many as possible tell them what they want to hear, then as soon as they get what they want leave and boast about it all to their mates , in the same way you would no doubt dislike a guy like that I don't like how Hazel was with Daley.

Of course, there are people out there like that of both sexes.

I just hate the sexism in that when the man is attached, he was too weak to resist the temptress who lured him. When the woman is attached, it's still the same way.