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reece(:
27-07-2013, 12:00 AM
Gina Rio in fishy race debate
socialite Gina Rio was at the centre of a new race storm yesterday.
Charlie Travers, 27, said she looked like Angelina Jolie’s Disney character in the film Shark Tale.

The actress, 38, voiced a fish called Lola.

But Charlie admitted she wanted to say that Gina, 24, was “a black version” of the character, yet did not want to cause a race row.

Charlie said: “I did not want to say black.”

But when Dexter Koh, 28, claimed Gina was “mixed race”, she hit the roof saying: “I am black! It’s the right word to say.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/328749/Gina-Rio-in-fishy-race-debate

Oh god.....

Ramsay
27-07-2013, 12:02 AM
ohhhhhh snap

Brother Leon
27-07-2013, 12:03 AM
She is mixed race though. Been saying this to the "black girl curse" group.

Northern Monkey
27-07-2013, 12:04 AM
You can understand Charlie's reluctance to say "black" after the whole Jemima thing.You never know with Gina how she might try and twist it.Even though saying black is not racist.

JayBlaze
27-07-2013, 12:06 AM
Obama is mixed race but no one calls him the first mixed race president.

JTM45
27-07-2013, 12:10 AM
Charlie just cannot stop herself can she!
Even when she thinks about the effect something might have before she says it and stops herself she still manages to slip up afterwards!:nono:

To be perfectly honest i was under the same impression as Dexter regarding Gina's racial heritage. She does look very different without her blue contacts and half-inch thick make-up layer mind you!

Jake.
27-07-2013, 12:11 AM
God :joker:

reece(:
27-07-2013, 12:29 AM
Charlie just cannot stop herself can she!


I don't know if she can help it but this foot in mouth thing she keeps doing is really starting to irritate me.

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 12:32 AM
Gina claims to be part Cuban, part Jamaican. So she is mixed race if her claim is true.

Tozzie
27-07-2013, 12:32 AM
bloody norah not again :nono:

lovebigbrotheruk
27-07-2013, 02:00 AM
God Charlie...

Brother Leon
27-07-2013, 02:03 AM
Obama is mixed race but no one calls him the first mixed race president.

He should though. There is a difference between black and mixed race. How can someone be considered Black when half their family isn't? lol. Dunno, Maybe it's just me, but when I have to answer what my ethnicity is I put "Mixed". :laugh:

Marsh.
27-07-2013, 02:08 AM
Race "storm" that's only being commented on by the Daily Rag. Storm is still confined to a teacup.

ConnieLingus
27-07-2013, 02:09 AM
I have always been known as half caste, because of my origins and skin colour.

This is the old school description, and everyone knew what it meant.

I don't see what the problem is with all these different terms that people insist on using. Most folk are so involved in crawling up their own arse to be correct, that they haven't a clue what they are talking about.

MatthewS
27-07-2013, 02:18 AM
I originally thought Gina was Asian...

*facepalm*

Marsh.
27-07-2013, 02:22 AM
With all the slap she cakes on it's difficult to tell what she's supposed to be.

armand.kay
27-07-2013, 03:13 AM
I thought gina was white when she went in :laugh2:

LikeABoatOnWater
27-07-2013, 03:15 AM
wait ginas a fish?

Kizzy
27-07-2013, 03:21 AM
Why is Charlie constantly mentioning, referring to and discussing ginas looks?....

ConnieLingus
27-07-2013, 03:22 AM
I thought gina was white when she went in :laugh2:


:joker::joker::joker::joker:

FPMSL :joker:

ConnieLingus
27-07-2013, 03:23 AM
Why is Charlie constantly mentioning, referring to and discussing ginas looks?....

She wants to be black.

Kizzy
27-07-2013, 03:25 AM
She's a confidence chipper, the kind to drop subtle insults occasionally.

reece(:
27-07-2013, 08:54 AM
I thought gina was white when she went in :laugh2:
:joker:

Samm
27-07-2013, 08:56 AM
When did this happen

Fish_Fingers
27-07-2013, 09:34 AM
So it's come to this. Saying 'black' is racist. What a wonderfully progressive country Britain is.

Jemal
27-07-2013, 09:37 AM
When your mixed race your black and white lol.

smeagol
27-07-2013, 09:38 AM
its sad when people have no idear what you can say. even though whats being said is harmless

Daffodil
27-07-2013, 09:39 AM
I think Gina is a bit of a stirrer. How can anyone pretend to be proud to be black when they have long straight blonde hair, white skin and blue contact lenses?

daniel-lewis-1985
27-07-2013, 10:01 AM
Im sorry are we as people no longer to say black or mixed race? I didn't get the memo.

chuff me dizzy
27-07-2013, 10:04 AM
What Charlie said was a compliment . Jesus Gina is one of the ugliest housemates to ever go in the house ,but thinks shes Gods gift to man ...Charlie just opens her mouth before her brains in gear

chuff me dizzy
27-07-2013, 10:05 AM
I think Gina is a bit of a stirrer. How can anyone pretend to be proud to be black when they have long straight blonde hair, white skin and blue contact lenses?

Hear hear !! Attention seeking at its max

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 10:07 AM
On official forms, where your ethnicity has to be filled in for monitoring purposes, "black" or "mixed" are always separate options.

rusticgal
27-07-2013, 10:09 AM
The trouble is we are all treading eggshells about not saying the wrong thing. Its because people jump on the racist thing at every opportunity... Why did Gina snap at her over it... and make Charlie feel wrong for saying 'mixed race'.... Gina does look mixed race...so what it just a wrong observation... just correct her and stop making stupid issues over stupid things.

Charlie didnt mean any offence...Gina is so up herself perhaps she shouldnt take herself so seriously and lighten up and learn to laugh at herself.....she is completely fake...and her being favorite to win along with Dexter is a joke. Both of them are fake and ingenuine...

chuff me dizzy
27-07-2013, 10:12 AM
The trouble is we are all treading eggshells about not saying the wrong thing. Its because people jump on the racist thing at every opportunity... Why did Gina snap at her over it... and make Charlie feel wrong for saying 'mixed race'.... Gina does look mixed race...so what it just a wrong observation... just correct her and stop making stupid issues over stupid things.

Charlie didnt mean any offence...Gina is so up herself perhaps she shouldnt take herself so seriously and lighten up and learn to laugh at herself.....she is completely fake...and her being favorite to win along with Dexter is a joke. Both of them are fake and ingenuine...

:worship: They are only going to get worse ....the task the other day has gone to their heads

daniel-lewis-1985
27-07-2013, 10:14 AM
On official forms, where your ethnicity has to be filled in for monitoring purposes, "black" or "mixed" are always separate options.

And they never have "WELSH" for nationality yet have Scottish and Irish I should cry wolf, oh sorry I mean racism.

Anyway if Charlie gets a warning over this I will be so angry.

MrWong
27-07-2013, 10:40 AM
If Gina is half Jamaican and half Cuban then she is black.

Dexter called her mix raced, Gina corrected him.

The end.


I think people need to read the article before getting all bent out of shape.

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 10:47 AM
If Gina is half Jamaican and half Cuban then she is black.


Er no she isn't. Cuban isn't black, it is Hispanic. If you told a Cuban they were black you'd get thumped! ;)

Ergo Charlie got it right. Gina may prefer to identify as black, however.

Her mother is black. Gina has the surname Reid (not Rio), which is Scottish not Spanish. Which leads to the suspicion that her dad may be of British origin, not Cuban.

Northern Monkey
27-07-2013, 10:49 AM
Black white Cuban or Asian.Who cares

MrWong
27-07-2013, 10:53 AM
Er no she isn't. Cuban isn't black, it is Hispanic. If you told a Cuban they were black you'd get thumped! ;)

Afro-Cubans make up 23% of the population, so only 77% would thump me :D

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 10:55 AM
I don't believe Gina is any part Cuban! ;)

All part of her 'exotic' fake back story.

letmein
27-07-2013, 10:57 AM
Obama is mixed race but no one calls him the first mixed race president.

That's because in the United States we've had the one drop rule. Furthermore, Obama doesn't look white at all. If you didn't know who he was, you'd classify him as black right away.

The United States has its own unique history.

letmein
27-07-2013, 10:58 AM
When your mixed race your black and white lol.

Um, no, and it's "you're.":xyxwave:

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 10:58 AM
That's because in the United States we've had the one drop rule. Furthermore, Obama doesn't look white at all. If you didn't know who he was, you'd classify him as black right away.

The United States has its own unique history.

What is the one drop rule?

letmein
27-07-2013, 10:59 AM
So it's come to this. Saying 'black' is racist. What a wonderfully progressive country Britain is.

HM should be told from the start to not mention race PERIOD! Mention it, and you're thrown out immediately. That'll stop this crap once and for all. Charlie is such an idiot, she'd still do it.

cfromhx02
27-07-2013, 11:01 AM
We are all the same race anyway, all from the same place, initially, the rift in eastern africa so why do we have to continue with this talk of separate races ?

I understand the need for some groups who have been racially abused to remind people to stop it happening again, only when needed though,

but f g s we are all the human race from the same rift, we are only different colours or slightly different skull structures because different parts of that initial rift based group settled in different parts of the world for a bit

+ so got more direct sunlight + skin pigmentation than other parts of the initial group who settled in areas where there was less direct sunlight IE not so close to the equator.

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 11:03 AM
The reality is that Gina is a bit jumpy about the issue because her ethnicity is faked along with the rest of her back story.

daniel-lewis-1985
27-07-2013, 11:04 AM
HM should be told from the start to not mention race PERIOD! Mention it, and you're thrown out immediately. That'll stop this crap once and for all. Charlie is such an idiot, she'd still do it.


Why?

Is being called black or mixed race racist to you?

To me that's just fact just like someone calling me white and Welsh.

Not being able to talk about race is racist as you think that there is something wrong with the colour of their skin and class them as different to the rest of us when we are all the same.

You are the racist not Charlie :)

MrWong
27-07-2013, 11:11 AM
The reality is that Gina is a bit jumpy about the issue because her ethnicity is faked along with the rest of her back story.

I think it's far more likely that she's jumpy due to people being racist in the past.

Unless you have proof that she's faked her ethnicity?

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 11:15 AM
Unless you have proof that she's faked her ethnicity?

Only the fact her surname is British and from a photo it appears her mother is black (presumably Jamaican descent).

But it could all be fake of course!

Gina looks mixed race. Just compare with someone like AJ who is almost certainly pure African descent.

Benjamin
27-07-2013, 11:26 AM
Why is everyone getting so worked up over a Daily Star article? It's the bloody Daily Star! :joker:

Rob!
27-07-2013, 11:29 AM
:joker: :joker:

Jake.
27-07-2013, 11:29 AM
Imagine if Charlie was given a warning and BB read back the conversation.. :laugh:

'Charlie, at 1:28 PM this afternoon you said that Gina looks like a black version of the fish character in Shark Tale'

MrWong
27-07-2013, 11:30 AM
Why is everyone getting so worked up over a Daily Star article? It's the bloody Daily Star! :joker:

True. Most of their articles are full of spin.

From the tweets at the time Gina seemed more offended at being compared to a fish :D

Rob!
27-07-2013, 11:30 AM
:laugh2:Imagine if Charlie was given a warning and BB read back the conversation.. :laugh:

'Charlie, at 1:28 PM this afternoon you said that Gina looks like a black version of the fish character in Shark Tale'

Northern Monkey
27-07-2013, 11:33 AM
Imagine if Charlie was given a warning and BB read back the conversation.. :laugh:

'Charlie, at 1:28 PM this afternoon you said that Gina looks like a black version of the fish character in Shark Tale'

That would actually be hilarious!

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 11:35 AM
That would actually be hilarious!

I want this to happen now! :D

actor99
27-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Its funny when it comes to Gina every one in their and us are scared of her . to what she might say. o lets bow down Gina is coming. be careful of what you say here. Gina might. be heart. o don't say that about Gina. all sucking up. just watch them in their. She's always been spoilt. she just a girl who's rich. that's all. probably will win. Dexter is another one

Seanbon
27-07-2013, 01:15 PM
wait ginas a fish?:joker::joker::joker:

Kizzy
27-07-2013, 01:16 PM
When your mixed race your black and white lol.

Not sure if serious... :laugh:

Seanbon
27-07-2013, 01:24 PM
The reality is that Gina is a bit jumpy about the issue because her ethnicity is faked along with the rest of her back story.
Here Here!!

Seanbon
27-07-2013, 01:27 PM
Imagine if Charlie was given a warning and BB read back the conversation.. :laugh:

'Charlie, at 1:28 PM this afternoon you said that Gina looks like a black version of the fish character in Shark Tale':worship:

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 01:30 PM
Erm, hate to say it but Gina does look a bit like that fish character, doesn't she? :o:p:eek::D

kistar
27-07-2013, 01:36 PM
Erm, hate to say it but Gina does look a bit like that fish character, doesn't she? :o:p:eek::D

:joker:

armand.kay
27-07-2013, 06:10 PM
If a black housemate said the N word what would happen?

alex_front2
27-07-2013, 07:24 PM
He should though. There is a difference between black and mixed race. How can someone be considered Black when half their family isn't? lol. Dunno, Maybe it's just me, but when I have to answer what my ethnicity is I put "Mixed". :laugh:

Mixed (mainly white /other) is often a way to create a hierarchy of superiority amongst non-white people so I congratulate Gina, Paula Patton (actress and wife to Robin Thicke), Halle Berry all label themselves black.

reece(:
27-07-2013, 07:28 PM
If a black housemate said the N word what would happen?
Charley said it multiple times and was warned.

alex_front2
27-07-2013, 07:30 PM
Its funny when it comes to Gina every one in their and us are scared of her . to what she might say. o lets bow down Gina is coming. be careful of what you say here. Gina might. be heart. o don't say that about Gina. all sucking up. just watch them in their. She's always been spoilt. she just a girl who's rich. that's all. probably will win. Dexter is another one

It's fab that 2 of 3 non-white HMs are monied, and I suspect that's what is p$$ing some people off. Rising above so called stations. They do not know their place."Oh why can't Gina be on the dole" and if this was US BB someone would say they wish Dexter was servivng them rice. :nono:

Lex
27-07-2013, 07:33 PM
Gina's one of my very favourites...but sometimes ....jeeeeeeeez!! :nono:

armand.kay
27-07-2013, 07:40 PM
Charley said it multiple times and was warned.
ohh ok :hugesmile:

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 07:59 PM
It's fab that 2 of 3 non-white HMs are monied,

It sure would be fab.................. if it was true. Sadly there's no evidence to show it is, and some evidence to the contrary.

Kyle
27-07-2013, 08:07 PM
Oh my cod, there's always a race row somewhere. All it takes is one comment and salmon gets offended. I have haddock enough of all this if its that much of a problem they should kipper away from each other. I won't be tunaing in again if this is what's happening koi blimey.

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2013, 08:08 PM
Oh my cod, there's always a race row somewhere. All it takes is one comment and salmon gets offended. I have haddock enough of all this if its that much of a problem they should kipper away from each other. I won't be tunaing in again if this is what's happening koi blimey.

Excellent! :D

Livia
27-07-2013, 08:48 PM
It's fab that 2 of 3 non-white HMs are monied, and I suspect that's what is p$$ing some people off. Rising above so called stations. They do not know their place."Oh why can't Gina be on the dole" and if this was US BB someone would say they wish Dexter was servivng them rice. :nono:

Wow... I've not heard anyone even come close to intimating this... it must have been on your mind a while. Maybe it's you who secretly feels like this...?