Callum Savior Complex?

[Vanessa]

I saw this post on DS and i thought it was spot on about Callum. Thoughs? :)

Here is my (totally unprofessional) take on Callum based on a few people's observations and mine on some earlier threads.

Now this is potentially a stretch, but indulge me in my moment of being Dan. He keeps repeating things over and over "soar, Charlie Travers!" and "ask me how I'm feeling" and "I'm doing my bit, Sam" and he is fixated on Dexter as an evil nemesis. I started thinking he might be losing his touch with reality a bit this week, possibly schizophrenic?

On part of the LF last night, when Charlie told Sam that Callum's take on Sam's crowd reaction was inaccurate he bizarrely tried to make it Dexter's fault that Charlie had made him look bad in front of Sam. He has a need to see Charlie and Sam as good and pure, and he must be their hero. I read he even saw Hazel upset about Dan and thought he could help her out too. If he's not schizophrenic (and if he is I do feel sorry for him) then he certainly seems to have a savior complex (or both).

I saw this post on DS and i thought it was spot on about Callum. Thoughts?

On top of the stuff in the house, he has stories of saving 19 lives in 4 years as a lifeguard as well as another 9 outside of that. On his BBspy bio he mentions how coaching kids gets him lots of praise from parents which he enjoys, and saving lives makes him a hero which he also enjoys.

Someone on here astutely mentioned his rant about batman and superman, indicating he sees Dexter as a supervillain and himself as a superhero.

Now I've even defended Callum in the past for being so compassionate toward Sam's frustrations, but I think we're all feeling a bit confused about his behaviour lately?

Anyway, he might just be a socially awkward try-hard David Brent who lied on his VT and I might be overthinking it but I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

[Vanessa]

I do think Callum sees himself as the hero and he sees Dexter as the villain. He seems desperate to be seen that way. :suspect:

[Jords]

Firstly the main sympton of schizophrenia is experiencing hallucinations and/or delusions, which Callum is not and its a total barbaric assumption to make.

Secondly hed have never made it past the audition process if he had schizophrenia.

[Vanessa]

Firstly the main sympton of schizophrenia is experiencing hallucinations and/or delusions, which Callum is not and its a total barbaric assumption to make.

Secondly hed have never made it past the audition process if he had schizophrenia.

I agree with the saviour complex. Callum sees himself as the hero and Dexter as the villain.

[Raph]

I agree with the saviour complex. Callum sees himself as the hero and Dexter as the villain.

It's because Callum is the hero, well victim at least. And Dexter is the villain. He's been bullying and belittling Callum for a while now, and finally Callum is standing up for himself.

[DanaC]

Having a saviour complex or similar psychological set up does not necessarily negate this bit:



Now I've even defended Callum in the past for being so compassionate toward Sam's frustrations




Anyway, he might just be a socially awkward try-hard David Brent who lied on his VT and I might be overthinking it but I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

Quite likely imo.

[Jemal]

Lmao dexter jealous on BBOTS.

[Indy]

Firstly the main sympton of schizophrenia is experiencing hallucinations and/or delusions, which Callum is not and its a total barbaric assumption to make.

Secondly hed have never made it past the audition process if he had schizophrenia.

I don't think he's schizo, but no, it would not be a guarantee of being kept off the show. I've posted the link before that explains how they do the casting process. They are screening FOR mentally unstable people, not trying to keep them out. That's across all the shows, not just BB.

If Callum were perfectly stable and this was all an act, then he would've been kept off the show. They don't cast boring people, they cast people who tick one of a certain combination of boxes on the psych screen - that's all of them, not just Callum.

[smeagol]

the guy is psychotic with obsessive tendancies he thinks he invents all these characters he thinks he is some kind of jim carrey with superior intelligence. but he gets so confused he doesn't even know the real callum most of the time

callum is just using dexter again he thinks if he plays the good guy v the bad guy he will win the show its another game plan he has come up with , when talkign about super heros thats where he is going with it.
the same as pretending he was mates with dan just so he ican get in with the others as they miss dan, there is no end to his sneakyness

whats funny is without dex callum would never of had a storyline from the begiinning
all he had was his showmance plan which failed .

[Vanessa]

Callum chat in the diary room about superheroes and villain was a bit weird for me. :conf2:

[Kizzy]

It's because Callum is the hero, well victim at least. And Dexter is the villain. He's been bullying and belittling Callum for a while now, and finally Callum is standing up for himself.

And finally the rest of the house is backing him.

[smeagol]

Callum chat in the diary room about superheroes and villain was a bit weird for me. :conf2:

thats where his new plan has come from. good v evil. as dan said last week he likes to be the martyr
the fact is he just needs a new plan as his keeps failing thanks to dex. and he is extremely bitter.
dex summed up him well tonight.

[Vanessa]

thats where his new plan has come from. good v evil. as dan said last week he likes to be the martyr
the fact is he just needs a new plan as his keeps failing thanks to dex. and he is extremely bitter.
dex summed up him well tonight.

Dexter is going to wipe the floor with him. :joker:

[Kazanne]

People who do not like Callum will obviously believe anything unfavourable said about him , it doesn't make anything true it just gives them another talking point and more ammunition,ell I think I am savvy enough to make up my own mind,and imo Yes Callum is a tad dramatic,but he isn't sly and malicious,the only one I can see fitting that bill is Dexter.

[Indy]

People who do not like Callum will obviously believe anything unfavourable said about him , it doesn't make anything true it just gives them another talking point and more ammunition,ell I think I am savvy enough to make up my own mind,and imo Yes Callum is a tad dramatic,but he isn't sly and malicious,the only one I can see fitting that bill is Dexter.

Similarly, people who like him will excuse everything from lying to exploiting a disabled person, but somewhere in the middle is the truth.

[Vanessa]

Similarly, people who like him will excuse everything from lying to exploiting a disabled person, but somewhere in the middle is the truth.

:worship::worship::worship:

[smeagol]

People who do not like Callum will obviously believe anything unfavourable said about him , it doesn't make anything true it just gives them another talking point and more ammunition,ell I think I am savvy enough to make up my own mind,and imo Yes Callum is a tad dramatic,but he isn't sly and malicious,the only one I can see fitting that bill is Dexter.

if you think callum isnt sly or vindictive or malicious then oh dear
a blind man can see what he is.

[CaudleHalbard]

Callum has issues which is projecting onto others.

He wants to sort other people's problems out; however, he cannot recognise that he is the one with far more to sort out then those he's attempting, in a rather cringeworthy manner, to help.

I have to say he is very much like a friend of mine. Who is a qualified and practising psychologist!

[Northern Monkey]

Love all these wannabe shrinks in here.lol

[RodHull]

People who do not like Callum will obviously believe anything unfavourable said about him , it doesn't make anything true it just gives them another talking point and more ammunition,ell I think I am savvy enough to make up my own mind,and imo Yes Callum is a tad dramatic,but he isn't sly and malicious,the only one I can see fitting that bill is Dexter.

No nothing sly about lying (completely lying at that) about your past to get in the house, then spending the first few weeks sleazing your way around not saying a bad word about anything, then realising that got on everyones tits turning into a bad version of danny dyer interlaced with fleeting glimpses of guru nanak. Nothing sly about that at all...

Hes just about the most weird, sly, fake calculating person in there. Hes the only one nobody literally has a clue what hes really like cause his personality changes like the wind to suit the moment.

I described him weeks back like an automaton from some sci-fi program, whos been programmed to interact with humans on a level it thinks is agreeable but is always a little 'off' and awkward cause it doesnt know how to display actual emotion or passion. Hes just bloody creepy and downright annoying if you ask me. Thought it from week 1.

[Kazanne]

No nothing sly about lying (completely lying at that) about your past to get in the house, then spending the first few weeks sleazing your way around not saying a bad word about anything, then realising that got on everyones tits turning into a bad version of danny dyer interlaced with fleeting glimpses of guru nanak. Nothing sly about that at all...

Hes just about the most weird, sly, fake calculating person in there. Hes the only one nobody literally has a clue what hes really like cause his personality changes like the wind to suit the moment.

I described him weeks back like an automaton from some sci-fi program, whos been programmed to interact with humans on a level it thinks is agreeable but is always a little 'off' and awkward cause it doesnt know how to display actual emotion or passion. Hes just bloody creep if you ask me. Thought it from week 1.

he's not the only one that's lied though,and he is a bit dramatic but imo,he's a nice enough guy.

[RodHull]

he's not the only one that's lied though,and he is a bit dramatic but imo,he's a nice enough guy.

Your point was he isn't sly, I pointed out numerous ways he has been sly (or something very close to sly) hes very calculating in how he responds to situations and how he presents what he says. Thats why he comes across as awkward cause nothing he says is what he truly feels, but what he thinks others want him to say.

His lie so far was the biggest (by his own admission it was total bollocks) and he has repeatedly flitted from being one extreme to the other in terms of his personality. Dexter is a self interested dick, but he has consistently been a self interested dick, only change is hes more aware of it now.

Callum went from some hippy throwback, to danny dyer via guru nanak and back again in 5 weeks. Im still not sure if hes a total fake or not cause I literally have no idea of his actual personality.

Hes not vile (like some this year) or malicious, but hes a total freak and very self important (despite his claims to the contrary) and I cant trust a single thing he says. Moreso than even Dexter.

[halfacrown]

Callum's neediness, quirks and manic intensity come blasting through the screen. imagine what it's like living with him! The final diary room segment was truly bizarre but more telling, perhaps, was Callum trying to claim Dan's place in the house by telling everyone that they were close and communicated by glances alone. I had thought that Callum might calm down: far from it.

[mr rochester]

Maybe he wants to save everyone because deep down he wishes someone would save him.

He seems marginally sociopathic (we all are at times though). He seems over intense (facially). I have noticed he forms his face in an exaggerated way when he wants someone to think he is really listening...instead of listening he shows he is listening. At a guess he will not understand why people have said he tries too hard. It seems to be true that he does - however he genuinely does not seem to have a malicious bone in his body - possibly because he has trained himself not to have. I think it is intensely hard work being Callum and I wish he was able to relax a bit - no-one seems to value all his attempts to smooth their rocky paths...

[Marsh.]

He does in a way. Sophie and Dan were spot on when they were discussing him constantly making himself a martyr. When he told Sam he'd do the dishes, instead of saying it simply he had to ram the point home and fully express how he is giving up his precious time to do..... the dishes.

Everything has to be ultra serious all the time, like he's a panellist on BOTS or something.

[Withano]

I think hes schizophrenic too, its the only way I can excuse his behaviour

[Kazanne]

I think hes schizophrenic too, its the only way I can excuse his behaviour

:joker::joker::joker:

[Kizzy]

I think hes schizophrenic too, its the only way I can excuse his behaviour

If you're taking weird obsessive behaviour as a guide half the bliddy forums schizophrenic too then!
:joker:

[user104658]

There's absolutely no way he's schizophrenic, I can only assume you have a "layperson's" understanding of schizophrenia because... well... it's nothing like this. It's a pretty serious and obvious mental disorder.

I do have a psychology degree although I have never worked professionally in anything psychology related... so my opinion isn't a professional one either... BUT my thinking would be more along the lines of him being towards the "mild" end of the Autistic spectrum, maybe mild Aspergers that was never diagnosed in childhood. People who go undiagnosed with mild autism in hildhood quite often learn "techniques" to cover it so it's never really noticed, however, this very unusual, intense, highly social situation seems to be butting his "masking techniques" into overdrive and making him appear strange.

Reasoning:

- He is quite intelligent

- He thinks logically...

- ...but struggles to understand when people react instinctively when it doesn't comply with his "black and white" view of it (e.g. "how can you be too nice? Nice = good!")

- He's socially awkward with things he says and social boundaries

- His mannerisms and ways of expressing himself, including his "rants", don't feel natural... as if he's "acting how he thinks someone would act in that situation".

- His emotions are the same as above, e.g. when he got "upset" on the date with Charlie, and his "love that boy" tears with the Sam / Callum therapist thing. It's not that he doesn't feel these things, just that with an ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) his emotions would be naturally internalised and not show externally - it's like he's learned at some point in his life that people don't like to see someone "emotionless" and so he's using learned emotional displays to show his emotions. It's not that the emotions aren't real... just that his externalisation of them is "faked".

- He gets visibly frustrated and agitated when people misunderstand him or his intentions.



...so yeah, like I say I'm not a professional but he is quite psychologically "interesting". He's certainly not "normal", but there's really nothing wrong with that. He seems harmless, just quirky, IMO.

[susie q]

Toy soldier that was a great post, and puts a different perspective on Callum, who I quite
like, I think the longer he stays the more he could improve.

[DanaC]

There's absolutely no way he's schizophrenic, I can only assume you have a "layperson's" understanding of schizophrenia because... well... it's nothing like this. It's a pretty serious and obvious mental disorder.

I do have a psychology degree although I have never worked professionally in anything psychology related... so my opinion isn't a professional one either... BUT my thinking would be more along the lines of him being towards the "mild" end of the Autistic spectrum, maybe mild Aspergers that was never diagnosed in childhood. People who go undiagnosed with mild autism in hildhood quite often learn "techniques" to cover it so it's never really noticed, however, this very unusual, intense, highly social situation seems to be butting his "masking techniques" into overdrive and making him appear strange.

Reasoning:

- He is quite intelligent

- He thinks logically...

- ...but struggles to understand when people react instinctively when it doesn't comply with his "black and white" view of it (e.g. "how can you be too nice? Nice = good!")

- He's socially awkward with things he says and social boundaries

- His mannerisms and ways of expressing himself, including his "rants", don't feel natural... as if he's "acting how he thinks someone would act in that situation".

- His emotions are the same as above, e.g. when he got "upset" on the date with Charlie, and his "love that boy" tears with the Sam / Callum therapist thing. It's not that he doesn't feel these things, just that with an ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) his emotions would be naturally internalised and not show externally - it's like he's learned at some point in his life that people don't like to see someone "emotionless" and so he's using learned emotional displays to show his emotions. It's not that the emotions aren't real... just that his externalisation of them is "faked".

- He gets visibly frustrated and agitated when people misunderstand him or his intentions.



...so yeah, like I say I'm not a professional but he is quite psychologically "interesting". He's certainly not "normal", but there's really nothing wrong with that. He seems harmless, just quirky, IMO.

My Mum and I were talking about Callum the other night and had come to a similar conclusion.

I think this why I find the vitriol levelled at him a little hard to take. Because if he is somewhere on the autistic spectrum, then this is essentially victimisation of someone with a disability, for that disability.

[Marsh.]

If you're taking weird obsessive behaviour as a guide half the bliddy forums schizophrenic too then!
:joker:

:laugh2:

[erinp5]

Another Callum rant and you know who's fault it is.

EIDKLH6Yb74

[Kazanne]

If you're taking weird obsessive behaviour as a guide half the bliddy forums schizophrenic too then!
:joker:

:worship::worship::worship:

[Vanessa]

Another Callum rant and you know who's fault it is.

EIDKLH6Yb74

:rolleyes: It's always Dexter fault, isn't it?