CUCUMBERGATE - Whose Side Are You On?

[JustLisaAgain]

Just out of interest, who actually agrees with who in this situation? :conf:

[GiRTh]

Already a thread.

[Ramsay]

completely pointless

[JustLisaAgain]

Already a thread.

If its already a poll - please accept my apologies. I couldn't find it so started one.

[Videostar]

Hazel.

Charlie totally over reacted both in the messing around with the cucumber and in the aftermath.

[Johnnyuk123]

I think both girls should make up and share the cucumber.

[Natalie.]

Cucumbers side

[Maneki-neko]

Benedict Cumberbatch gate?

[Johnnyuk123]

Slip a condom over the cucumber everyones satisfied.

[Fosse]

I had to laugh at Charlie bringing up the spectre of Daley out of a seemingly silly cucumber incident.

Way to go to make Hazel feel even more insecure and upset.

Ten out of ten - top telly!

[fingers]

No one can mention Daley anymore?

[Benji_]

Pointless argument

[Patricia4]

I dont care for Hazel but she was right Charlie is coming across a spoilt brat.

[toronto_matt]

hazel doing a turnaround in polls? interesting :P

[Johnnyuk123]

To put things into perspective Charlie did turn the wheel on quite a few days when Daley was taking a shower so maybe it was just a reference to that?

[Johnnyuk123]

hazel doing a turnaround in polls? interesting :P

Hazel is doing great with the polls and the germans and the irish and the americans.

[Johnnyuk123]

No one can mention Daley anymore?

not unless it's EmmerDaley.

[Marc]

Charlie shouldn't have brought up Daley, because by doing so she sort of let on to the fact that she had (if only slightly) found Hazel responsible for his ejection. Which has probably gone through Hazel's head ever since the situation and if somebody so close to her in the house also thinks it, that must be tough and a bit of a slap in the face.

[Indy]

I think both girls should make up and share the cucumber.

Can't. Dexter ate it.

[Visage]

I don't care who is at fault, I enjoyed it, we need more fall-outs

[Ammi]

Charlie shouldn't have brought up Daley, because by doing so she sort of let on to the fact that she had (if only slightly) found Hazel responsible for his ejection. Which has probably gone through Hazel's head ever since the situation and if somebody so close to her in the house also thinks it, that must be tough and a bit of a slap in the face.

..this exactly..

[Indy]

Charlie shouldn't have brought up Daley, because by doing so she sort of let on to the fact that she had (if only slightly) found Hazel responsible for his ejection. Which has probably gone through Hazel's head ever since the situation and if somebody so close to her in the house also thinks it, that must be tough and a bit of a slap in the face.

She went on to be more explicit about that thought to Gina and Dexter, but was leaving the names out. Gina didn't get it, and thought she was trying to say something else (or she did and was purposely trying to deflect it in a different direction), but it was pretty clear what Charlie meant.

[billy123]

I agree with johnnyuk123 he has a valid point

[kistar]

Slip a condom over the cucumber everyones satisfied.

Why do you need a condom on a cucumber? Especially a home grown one?

[rusticgal]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

[rusticgal]

Charlie shouldn't have brought up Daley, because by doing so she sort of let on to the fact that she had (if only slightly) found Hazel responsible for his ejection. Which has probably gone through Hazel's head ever since the situation and if somebody so close to her in the house also thinks it, that must be tough and a bit of a slap in the face.

No she shouldn't have .... but dont forget the other housemates do not know the details of what happened and because Hazel only confided in Dan...the rest of them could only speculate the intensity of it.... Charlie possibly thinks that in their drink infested night in the Safe house something as innocent had occured and been magnified to the point that Hazel had misconstrued something 'accidental' as the cucumber as something aggressively deliberate thus resulting in Daleys dismissal.

[Kizzy]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

She did accept it as frolics?... and by saying she gets aggressive when drunk meant over boisterous.. Which when you're drunk is fine but if sober is soooooo annoying.
Charlie has no filter, at 27 she really needs to stop shooting her mouth off and then bleating when others wont make allowances for her indiscreet, insulting or upsetting faux pas.
Why on earth would someone think it's ok to say whatever, whenever to whoever and yet challenge others as to their choice of words or intention?.....She is crazy.

[Calderyon]

Both were in the wrong, Hazel should not have said "a bit aggressive" thing and Charlie should not have said they "Now i know how Daley feels"/"It´s a little bit like the Daley thing".

Charlie did make it worse though, with all the overreacting. Should have left it for next day, as it was clear that she ´wasn´t in her right mind in that moment.

So i am on Hazel´s side on this one.

[rusticgal]

She did accept it as frolics?... and by saying she gets aggressive when drunk meant over boisterous.. Which when you're drunk is fine but if sober is soooooo annoying.
Charlie has no filter, at 27 she really needs to stop shooting her mouth off and then bleating when others wont make allowances for her indiscreet, insulting or upsetting faux pas.
Why on earth would someone think it's ok to say whatever, whenever to whoever and yet challenge others as to their choice of words or intention?.....She is crazy.

Isnt that hypocritical?...its OK for Hazel to use the word 'aggressive' about her friend instead of 'boisterous' which is better terminology when talking of your 'friend' when a little drunk....unyet you say Charlie makes indiscreet, insulting and upsettin faux pas???
Charlie does speak before she thinks but none of its intentional.... Hazel is cold and calculating and knew exactly what she was doing. I would rather a friend like Charlie than someone like Hazel....she would stab you in the back at the first opportunity.

[RodHull]

What Charlie nearly said indicates she clearly feels Hazel in some way stitched Daley up and got him booted out on spurious claims. I think thats why she took offense.

[Kizzy]

Isnt that hypocritical?...its OK for Hazel to use the word 'aggressive' about her friend instead of 'boisterous' which is better terminology when talking of your 'friend' when a little drunk....unyet you say Charlie makes indiscreet, insulting and upsettin faux pas???
Charlie does speak before she thinks but none of its intentional.... Hazel is cold and calculating and knew exactly what she was doing. I would rather a friend like Charlie than someone like Hazel....she would stab you in the back at the first opportunity.

The usual excuse used by someone who was out scoring when everyone else was learning tact and diplomacy, Charlie knows she and hazel aren't friends... they are just two women on big brother.

[erinp5]

Daley Ojuederie BBUK ‏@IamDaleyStar 2h

Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM

[Indy]

Daley Ojuederie BBUK ‏@IamDaleyStar 2h

Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM

Jackie will have a hit out on him within the hour. No way she's going to let association with Daley tarnish her baby's career :hugesmile:

[Kizzy]

Daley Ojuederie BBUK ‏@IamDaleyStar 2h

Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM

It's not your back people are worried about is it meathead?....

[Tozzie]

good gawd, I'll say na mooor

[Johnnyuk123]

It will all be forgotton tomorrow. The cucumbers will be all wilted and limp, no morning sunrise from those things and the gurls will just laugh it all off under the duvet, hopefully bb will have a duvet cam so we can see them making up.

[Donovan.]

Why do you need a condom on a cucumber? Especially a home grown one?

Just in case it's of the Monsanto mutant variety.

[the truth]

im on the cucombers side....those brutal ladies treated it with contempt forcing him into all sorts of orifices against its will,,,,,,,free all willy shaped fruits and vegetables

[the truth]

She did accept it as frolics?... and by saying she gets aggressive when drunk meant over boisterous.. Which when you're drunk is fine but if sober is soooooo annoying.
Charlie has no filter, at 27 she really needs to stop shooting her mouth off and then bleating when others wont make allowances for her indiscreet, insulting or upsetting faux pas.
Why on earth would someone think it's ok to say whatever, whenever to whoever and yet challenge others as to their choice of words or intention?.....She is crazy.

why should she filter everything for the homewrecker....its been 7 weeks or whatever spit it out mun

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Charlie, hazel for starters pulled the feel sorry for me card again, and was just bitchy about it to be honest

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

:love:

[JustLisaAgain]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

I've got to say I agree with you here. :thumbs:

[Ammi]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

..she did accept it as frolics though and didn't think it was intentional in any way, it was what Charlie said afterwards that caused the problems and she had no right to bring Daley into it..even if she did regret saying that, once something is said and out there, you can't take it back and she has to start taking responsibility for what she says because this isn't the first time she's offended a housemate, whether drunk or sober...

...and yeah, I do think that when you're involved in something yourself, you don't necessarily see it as others on the outside do because you're too emotional at the time obviously but with both the Daley incident and this, BB intervening will have made Hazel think whether it looked totally different from the outside and question whether it was actually aggressive..I think that's very normal too..you can think you're really sure of something but then someone else will say they saw something different and you'll think wow, did it really look like that, maybe I got it wrong..

EDIT:..I also think the 'friendship' thing works both ways..why would a so called friend bring Daley into it in the first place..let's be objective...

[Daffodil]

Hazel started the cucumber fight by persistently shoving it in Charlie's mouth. The fact that Charlie was drunk meant she reacted honestly by trying to get her own back. Hazel did not like this. Hazel is a nasty piece of work.

[Niamh.]

The argument itself was pretty stupid but Charlie (once again) put that giant foot in her mouth

[Seanbon]

im on the cucombers side....those brutal ladies treated it with contempt forcing him into all sorts of orifices against its will,,,,,,,free all willy shaped fruits and vegetables

:worship::worship::worship:

[Northern Monkey]

I had to laugh at Charlie bringing up the spectre of Daley out of a seemingly silly cucumber incident.

Way to go to make Hazel feel even more insecure and upset.

Ten out of ten - top telly!

My thoughts exactly.Not on any side,Just laughed at Charlie putting her foot in it again.lol

[Seanbon]

..she did accept it as frolics though and didn't think it was intentional in any way, it was what Charlie said afterwards that caused the problems and she had no right to bring Daley into it..even if she did regret saying that, once something is said and out there, you can't take it back and she has to start taking responsibility for what she says because this isn't the first time she's offended a housemate, whether drunk or sober...

...and yeah, I do think that when you're involved in something yourself, you don't necessarily see it as others on the outside do because you're too emotional at the time obviously but with both the Daley incident and this, BB intervening will have made Hazel think whether it looked totally different from the outside and question whether it was actually aggressive..I think that's very normal too..you can think you're really sure of something but then someone else will say they saw something different and you'll think wow, did it really look like that, maybe I got it wrong..

EDIT:..I also think the 'friendship' thing works both ways..why would a so called friend bring Daley into it in the first place..let's be objective...

It's actually a sign of maturity to be able to look back on a situation and admit that you were wrong.ie.Hazel using the word aggressive.When she was told she was wrong she accepted it,and didn't argue on in a dogmatic way. Some people seem to think that this was because she was " caught out",but I think it was a case of mature reflection,and also a mix-up over when and where the word was used!?!
Unfortunately,there is very little mature reflection going on here among certain commentators! Preconceived opinions are leading to knee-jerk reactions,and as usual Hazel cops the flak!?!:sad::sad::sad:

[user104658]

I don't think it would be inaccurate to describe it as aggressive but that doeant have to mean anything awful. She was being really persistent and the actual eye hitting came AFTER hazel asked her to be careful. But, only aggressive in the sense of that "clumsy" way drunk people can get physically... Like when drunk old men pit their arm around your neck a little too tight, or slap you on the back a little too hard. But hazel knows that and was actually very careful NOT to make more of it with big brother, smiling and saying it was fine.

There was really no issue after that, Hazel did say "aggressive" to callum but he agreed that Charlie had been being a bit forceful with it... She was trying to "get her own back" in a slightly aggressive way. Due to being clearly very drunk. it was totally dropped until she said "i know how Daley feels" which was out of order - even Joe looked visibly shocked before Hazel registered what she had said. then she went on to deny it and claimed she had said that maybe it was "like the Daley thing because of alcohol but not even that"... when that's not what she was implying at all.

It can be explained by them not knowing the details of what happened with Daley I guess... but still not something you'd say to a supposed friend. She revealed her thoughts on it that she had obviously been keeping to herself.

[user104658]

On a lighter note : did anyone else smirk a little when they showed Dexter and Hazel innocently harvesting the cucumbers in the HL show? "We'll make cucumber salad!", they said. Little did they know what those cucumbers would lead to.

Also my partner, who doesnt watch the show, happened to look up from her laptop just as the voiceover said:

"its been 27 minutes since Charlie poked Hazel in the eye with a cucumber"

Her face said it all I think. Utter confusion. Hahaha.

[mr rochester]

Charlie - THINK before you drink...

[Niamh.]

Charlie - THINK before you drink...

Or just Charlie - THINK

[Ammi]

I don't think it would be inaccurate to describe it as aggressive but that doeant have to mean anything awful. She was being really persistent and the actual eye hitting came AFTER hazel asked her to be careful. But, only aggressive in the sense of that "clumsy" way drunk people can get physically... Like when drunk old men pit their arm around your neck a little too tight, or slap you on the back a little too hard. But hazel knows that and was actually very careful NOT to make more of it with big brother, smiling and saying it was fine.

There was really no issue after that, Hazel did say "aggressive" to callum but he agreed that Charlie had been being a bit forceful with it... She was trying to "get her own back" in a slightly aggressive way. Due to being clearly very drunk. it was totally dropped until she said "i know how Daley feels" which was out of order - even Joe looked visibly shocked before Hazel registered what she had said. then she went on to deny it and claimed she had said that maybe it was "like the Daley thing because of alcohol but not even that"... when that's not what she was implying at all.

It can be explained by them not knowing the details of what happened with Daley I guess... but still not something you'd say to a supposed friend. She revealed her thoughts on it that she had obviously been keeping to herself.

..yeah, and I think the same way as the comment about Hazel's boyfriend's suicide, she just came right out and asked something completely inappropriate and I guess for Hazel, it then becomes something Charlie makes a habit of so she's bound to be annoyed and maybe even suspicious of her actions...

..;I also think Hazel has been judged far too harshly for flirting with Daley..I know emotionally it's not something any of us, and particularly people in partnerships will like because 'it takes two to tango' as it were and he wasn'r single so we don't like that she flirted with him but that's more of an emotional judgement..the reality is that he had the responsibility of faithfulness to his partner...that's not to say I condone it either but I don't think the judgement of her has been in perspective either...

[Ammi]

Charlie - THINK before you drink...

Or just Charlie - THINK

..or Charlie..JUST DON'T SPEAK..

[Kris]

Charlie shouldn't have brought up Daley, because by doing so she sort of let on to the fact that she had (if only slightly) found Hazel responsible for his ejection. Which has probably gone through Hazel's head ever since the situation and if somebody so close to her in the house also thinks it, that must be tough and a bit of a slap in the face.

Truth hurts sometimes. Too bad it took Charlie to say it. If Gina had said it everyone would have loved it. Maybe if she had been more up front with everything in the beginning people wouldn't have to draw their own conclusions.

The "aggressive" card is used far too often in that house for the benefit of making others look bad.

[Marsh.]

Truth hurts sometimes. Too bad it took Charlie to say it. If Gina had said it everyone would have loved it. Maybe if she had been more up front with everything in the beginning people wouldn't have to draw their own conclusions.

The "aggressive" card is used far too often in that house for the benefit of making others look bad.

Truth? Did Charlie witness the incident and know enough to pass on any "truth"?

The word irrational springs to mind.

[Daffodil]

So Charlie was drunk....she did not deliberatly poke Hazel in the eye with the cucumber...it was an accident and not a deliberate act.
Hazel made a big deal out of it after her call to the diary room saying to BB 'I dont THINK she meant it'.... Why should Charlie have meant it??? She isnt aggressive...but sometimes you just get CLUMSEY when you have had a drink.
Hazel denied saying she had used the word aggressive and only admitted it when Callum stated she did.... Callum pathetically denied to Charlie that he agreed with Hazel when she descibed Charlie as being aggressive....when he DID.
Charlie may have harped on about it but out of frustration that the two of them initially denied what she CORRECTLY overheard.
Charlie shouldnt have mentioned the Daley thing...but she said what came into her head and that was that Daley had (rightly by the way) been called in because his behaviour was unacceptable and Charlie felt that behaviour had been concieved in the same way. Remember none of the other HM's know the details of what went on with Daley apart from Dan.

I'm with Charlie on this one.... Hazel as her supposed friend should have simply accepted it as drunken frolics and that it was accidental... but she seemed to want to insinuate that Charlie was unnecessarily aggressive in a deliberate way.

High 5 and Amen to that! Agree with it all :elephant: :dance: :cat:

[Miranda123]

Just out of interest, who actually agrees with who in this situation? :conf:

Charlie does get a bit stupid in drink and she did accidentally poke the cucumber in Hazels eye

However, Hazels overeaction is what caused the row and Callum didnt help by agreeing with her, like he does with everything anyone ever says.......

You notice when Hazel went to the DR, instead of saying, we are only playing, there is no problem, she said "I dont THINK there was any intent there"

Having said that, its been 24hrs now, so Hazel has probably returned to the DR to tell BB she is now 'terrified' lol

[Miranda123]

No she shouldn't have .... but dont forget the other housemates do not know the details of what happened and because Hazel only confided in Dan...the rest of them could only speculate the intensity of it.... Charlie possibly thinks that in their drink infested night in the Safe house something as innocent had occured and been magnified to the point that Hazel had misconstrued something 'accidental' as the cucumber as something aggressively deliberate thus resulting in Daleys dismissal.

True, the only thing missing in the SH was the cucumber

Or was it ?

lolololol

[johnx]

Charlie turns into a hyperactive toddler when drunk-which probably takes two glasses of cheap lager.

[Marc]

Truth hurts sometimes. Too bad it took Charlie to say it. If Gina had said it everyone would have loved it. Maybe if she had been more up front with everything in the beginning people wouldn't have to draw their own conclusions.

The "aggressive" card is used far too often in that house for the benefit of making others look bad.

I believe this post to be really aggressive. :pipe:

[the truth]

Truth hurts sometimes. Too bad it took Charlie to say it. If Gina had said it everyone would have loved it. Maybe if she had been more up front with everything in the beginning people wouldn't have to draw their own conclusions.

The "aggressive" card is used far too often in that house for the benefit of making others look bad.

true

[the truth]

Truth? Did Charlie witness the incident and know enough to pass on any "truth"?

The word irrational springs to mind.

she got hazels edited version ....she probably realises hazel tried to force his pants down and of course Charlie was present that night chatting to hazel as daley got angry due to the sleep deprivation and endless provocation of hazel...Charlie knows a fair bit....why should everyone pussy foot around hazel? they tell everyone else straight...why should topics be taboo?

[the truth]

Charlie does get a bit stupid in drink and she did accidentally poke the cucumber in Hazels eye

However, Hazels overeaction is what caused the row and Callum didnt help by agreeing with her, like he does with everything anyone ever says.......

You notice when Hazel went to the DR, instead of saying, we are only playing, there is no problem, she said "I dont THINK there was any intent there"

Having said that, its been 24hrs now, so Hazel has probably returned to the DR to tell BB she is now 'terrified' lol

hazel always starts everything, she provokes people to make them react then hazel gets screen time and attention....hazel rammed the cucumber in charlies mouth several times....why? then she made a song and dance over her allegedly getting gently poked back

shes trouble and as we know she is evil inside

[Kizzy]

why should she filter everything for the homewrecker....its been 7 weeks or whatever spit it out mun

Get some perspective, daley wrecked his own home and he failed to check it first :laugh:
what is a mun?...

[the truth]

Get some perspective, daley wrecked his own home and he failed to check it first :laugh:
what is a mun?...

your sentence makes no sense

[Kris]

I believe this post to be really aggressive. :pipe:

:bawling:

[aman201]

Clearly Charlie was in the wrong.

Surprised she has 38 votes!

[Miranda123]

Just out of interest, who actually agrees with who in this situation? :conf:

Im on the cucumbers side, I think its getting a bad rap here

[the truth]

Clearly Charlie was in the wrong.

Surprised she has 38 votes!

38 intelligent people who saw hazel forcibly stick a cucumber in charlies mouth a few times which started the whole fiasco

[Miranda123]

I believe this post to be really aggressive. :pipe:

I believe what goes around comes around

[Kris]

she got hazels edited version ....she probably realises hazel tried to force his pants down and of course Charlie was present that night chatting to hazel as daley got angry due to the sleep deprivation and endless provocation of hazel...Charlie knows a fair bit....why should everyone pussy foot around hazel? they tell everyone else straight...why should topics be taboo?

This and again, maybe had she been up front people wouldn't have to form their own conclusions.

There was no reason at all for aggressive to ever come up in the first place. She was far more "aggressive" in shoving it in Charlie's mouth than Charlie was giving it back.

[aman201]

38 intelligent people who saw hazel forcibly stick a cucumber in charlies mouth a few times which started the whole fiasco

And what about the Daley thing?

Charlie is an absolute mess when she's drunk.

[Joelle.]

It is a pointless argument, but i'm more with Charlie tbh

[Kizzy]

your sentence makes no sense

What are you having trouble with?

[Miranda123]

And what about the Daley thing?

Charlie is an absolute mess when she's drunk.

It needed saying, just a shame it took a drunk to do it

[iknowyourmother]

Charlie. I'm just glad someone brought up the Daley situation!!!

[Ammi]

It needed saying, just a shame it took a drunk to do it


..why did it need saying..what relevance did it have to the cucumber..?..(and I can't believe just typed that sentence..)..

[the truth]

that cucumber has been victimised, if it was capable of tears it would now be favourite to defeat gina

[Ammi]

that cucumber has been victimised, if it was capable of tears it would now be favourite to defeat gina

..the cucumber was just another actor like Michael...I think it was really an onion..ooo onions are capable of tears..be afraid Gina..:amazed:...

[the truth]

..the cucumber was just another actor like Michael...I think it was really an onion..ooo onions are capable of tears..be afraid Gina..:amazed:...

hmm the onion has far more layers that these cartoon characters and far more practical uses too....onions illicit tears for others but alas theyre incapable of their own....on that irony alone it deserves to win on the sympathy vote

[Miranda123]

..why did it need saying..what relevance did it have to the cucumber..?..(and I can't believe just typed that sentence..)..

I cant believe this whole thread lol

I love cucumber too

Sorry Ammi, you know Im not a Hazel fan so everything that annoys her makes me happy

Sad I know but thats the game lol

[WozMan]

Bloody pointless DRUNKEN argument! We all know Charlie is immature and uncalibrated for her age at the best of times. Add in alcohol and she is an out and out MESS. She was like a bull in a china shop as per usual. I believe she WAS aiming for Hazels mouth but was just so drunkily uncoordinated and inattentive that it landed nearer the eye.

She actually made some progress in her verbal blunderage by recognising referencing Daley was wrong mid-sentence. So that's something :)

Hazel for her part was pushing things a little far as per usual. Her reaction to the Daley half-comment was understandable but also gave Charlie a MUCH bigger spade to dig her own grave with. The use of the word 'aggressive' rather than say 'boisterous' was uncalled for. It really makes me wonder where her head was at with regards to gaining sympathy etc.

Cucumber to win!!!

[Indy]

Bloody pointless DRUNKEN argument! We all know Charlie is immature and uncalibrated for her age at the best of times. Add in alcohol and she is an out and out MESS. She was like a bull in a china shop as per usual. I believe she WAS aiming for Hazels mouth but was just so drunkily uncoordinated and inattentive that it landed nearer the eye.

She actually made some progress in her verbal blunderage by recognising referencing Daley was wrong mid-sentence. So that's something :)

Hazel for her part was pushing things a little far as per usual. Her reaction to the Daley half-comment was understandable but also gave Charlie a MUCH bigger spade to dig her own grave with. The use of the word 'aggressive' rather than say 'boisterous' was uncalled for. It really makes me wonder where her head was at with regards to gaining sympathy etc.

Cucumber to win!!!

I've seen this mentioned a few times. Show of hands - how often do people use the word "boisterous" in casual conversation?

[JustLisaAgain]

Will the cucumber argument continue on tonight's show I wonder?
Just to get my point across because I don't think I have already, I was on Charlie's side (as such), the whole thing was just ridiculous and it shouldn't have started anyway, but Charlie didn't mean it deliberately, Hazel moved which caused the cucumber to go in her eye. She made a big deal over it, when really it could've just been laughed about and forgotten about but instead BB had to double check she was alright....
And then when she had the cheek to say she didn't use the word aggressive, I almost wished she could hear me through my tv screen. I thought Charlie was right in going back to Hazel and co just to clarify what she meant about the 'Daley situation' - I assumed what she meant by that was the behaviour there was seen as aggressive even though it wasn't intentional, or so we think, so that's what she meant by the cucumber situation, it was also seen as aggressive, but clearly wasn't therefore, it is a similar situation to what happened in the SH but of course totally different. So that's why I could see where she was coming from. It's funny how everyone sees it differently though, and then makes their own assumptions.

[WozMan]

I've seen this mentioned a few times. Show of hands - how often do people use the word "boisterous" in casual conversation?

How about 'overly playful'?

It doesn't have to be a particular word but the word 'aggressive' carries some very negative connotations in my mind. To me it means forceful and indicating a willingness to use violence. It reeks of anger and violence to me.

[the truth]

aggression is way way over used.....we need to expand our vocabulary as a nation

assertive
belligerent
forceful
persuasive
powerful
belligerent
bellicose
forceful
vigorous
convincing
zealous
pushy
rancorous
etc

[Indy]

How about 'overly playful'?

It doesn't have to be a particular word but the word 'aggressive' carries some very negative connotations in my mind. To me it means forceful and indicating a willingness to use violence. It reeks of anger and violence to me.

And yet, your sig pic is a very aggressive image of Lauren. She could easily be described as aggressive in many situations, and there's nothing negative about it, it's simply an accurate description. Is Charlie some precious little snowflake that she must be sheltered from accuracy?

[the truth]

And yet, your sig pic is a very aggressive image of Lauren. She could easily be described as aggressive in many situations, and there's nothing negative about it, it's simply an accurate description. Is Charlie some precious little snowflake that she must be sheltered from accuracy?

its not aggressive is sexy lauren messing about like a playful kitten.....and what a sultry kitten she was ....grrrrrrrr

[WozMan]

its not aggressive is sexy lauren messing about like a playful kitten.....and what a sultry kitten she was ....grrrrrrrr

AMEN BROTHA!!!

And yet, your sig pic is a very aggressive image of Lauren. She could easily be described as aggressive in many situations, and there's nothing negative about it, it's simply an accurate description. Is Charlie some precious little snowflake that she must be sheltered from accuracy?

She was frustrated with all the hate directed to her and venting on a peice of string. NOT another human being as aggressive would indicate!

[Seanbon]

Will the cucumber argument continue on tonight's show I wonder?
Just to get my point across because I don't think I have already, I was on Charlie's side (as such), the whole thing was just ridiculous and it shouldn't have started anyway, but Charlie didn't mean it deliberately, Hazel moved which caused the cucumber to go in her eye. She made a big deal over it, when really it could've just been laughed about and forgotten about but instead BB had to double check she was alright....
And then when she had the cheek to say she didn't use the word aggressive, I almost wished she could hear me through my tv screen. I thought Charlie was right in going back to Hazel and co just to clarify what she meant about the 'Daley situation' - I assumed what she meant by that was the behaviour there was seen as aggressive even though it wasn't intentional, or so we think, so that's what she meant by the cucumber situation, it was also seen as aggressive, but clearly wasn't therefore, it is a similar situation to what happened in the SH but of course totally different. So that's why I could see where she was coming from. It's funny how everyone sees it differently though, and then makes their own assumptions.

I am confused! Is it similar or totally different??:conf::conf:

[WozMan]

I am confused! Is it similar or totally different??:conf::conf:

It had both similarities and differences

[Indy]

AMEN BROTHA!!!



She was frustrated with all the hate directed to her and venting on a peice of string. NOT another human being as aggressive would indicate!

Do you have a dictionary with this specialized meaning of "aggressive" that suggests aggression can only be directed at people?

[JustLisaAgain]

I am confused! Is it similar or totally different??:conf::conf:

Sorry I can see how you're confused.
It's similar because both situations were seen as aggressive but weren't meant in that way,
But they're completely different situations because Daleys tone was to me, actually aggressive whereas you could tell the cucumber thing was meant to be a joke?
That probably still doesn't make sense!

[Kris]

And yet, your sig pic is a very aggressive image of Lauren. She could easily be described as aggressive in many situations, and there's nothing negative about it, it's simply an accurate description. Is Charlie some precious little snowflake that she must be sheltered from accuracy?

ag·gres·sive
/əˈgresiv/
Adjective
Ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.
Pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so: "an aggressive businessman".
Synonyms
offensive - truculent

In what part of the playing with the cucumber did Charlie appear likely to attack Hazel?

[Marsh.]

she got hazels edited version ....she probably realises hazel tried to force his pants down and of course Charlie was present that night chatting to hazel as daley got angry due to the sleep deprivation and endless provocation of hazel...Charlie knows a fair bit....why should everyone pussy foot around hazel? they tell everyone else straight...why should topics be taboo?

If you're going to talk bollocks, don't direct it at me I'm not interested.

Thanks. :)

[Marsh.]

What are you having trouble with?

From the looks of it, logic and common sense.

[WozMan]

ag·gres·sive
/əˈgresiv/
Adjective
Ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.
Pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so: "an aggressive businessman".
Synonyms
offensive - truculent

In what part of the playing with the cucumber did Charlie appear likely to attack Hazel?

Thanks for the definition Kris :thumbs:

[the truth]

If you're going to talk bollocks, don't direct it at me I'm not interested.

Thanks. :)

you talk bollocks I am the bollocks....different ends of the scale little man

[Indy]

ag·gres·sive
/əˈgresiv/
Adjective
Ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.
Pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so: "an aggressive businessman".
Synonyms
offensive - truculent

In what part of the playing with the cucumber did Charlie appear likely to attack Hazel?

Ignoring the second definition doesn't make it disappear

[WozMan]

I've seen this mentioned a few times. Show of hands - how often do people use the word "boisterous" in casual conversation?

Charlie actually used the word herself in the main show.