Sam : Any hole is a goal

[Vanessa]

Eewwwwwwww! :yuk:

[Scream]

:joker:

[Cold Sweat]

Lol when did he say this?

[Ramsay]

Well its true tbf

[erinp5]

Wolfie was on Couch Potato. She said when Gina was doing the knife throwing task, the knife thrower`s glamorous assistant was standing near to Sam.

He said " Show your gash for bangers and mash

[Kate!]

Typical thing for a young lad to say. :shrug:

[YodaBB]

What about Dexters rodoeing :thumbs:

[JTM45]

Let's be fair, Sam's a twat!

[Marsh.]

Does that mean he'd be with a man too? :shrug:

[erinp5]

Typical thing for a young lad to say. :shrug:

I agree but Sam is 23 FGS

[billy123]

Bit of a silly thread to be fair.
let it sink dont reply.

[Vanessa]

What about Dexters rodoeing :thumbs:

He only mentioned it. He was not talking about doing that to anyone. :thumbs:

[YodaBB]

I shouldn't have swooped to that level anyway, I think I'm going to make use of this ignore system

[LikeABoatOnWater]

bet he has a needle dick

[Spoon]

So misogynist

[CaudleHalbard]

Let's be fair, Sam's a twat!

In a nutshell. A lazy, slightly sleazy one too.

[Cold Sweat]

Wolfie was on Couch Potato. She said when Gina was doing the knife throwing task, the knife thrower`s glamorous assistant was standing near to Sam.

He said " Show your gash for bangers and mash

This must be what people are looking for in a winner this year - given the number of sleazy comments that Sam has made - and given that he is now favourite to win BB14.

*shakes head in disbelief*

[fingers]

In a nutshell. A lazy, slightly sleazy one too.

Just like the sleazy twitterers bigging him up --apparently, I don't use that sleaze pit!

[JTM45]

Twitter is the cesspit of society!:yuk:

[MatthewS]

He's deaf, he can say whatever he wants :joker:

/ sarcasm

[Videostar]

I posted this in another thread, but it's worth repeating as it was shown on BOTS the week Wolfy went.

Wolfy said in an interview that during the knife throwing task with Gina Sam said to the lady that was the assistant to the knife thrower "show us your gash for bangers and mash"...but we never saw that in the HL's show edit...Sam is being protected.

[Jack_]

Of all the things to criticise him for, this really isn't one of them

[Jimrod]

The Dexter fans really are getting desperate tonight...

[Vanessa]

Why Sam comments are not shown? BB is protecting him. :nono:

[Videostar]

The Dexter fans really are getting desperate tonight...

Are you denying Sam saying these things? are these things fine for Sam to say to women? if Dexter said that would you be fine with that, or ranting about it on here.? ;) :joker:

[MatthewS]

I don't think it's necessarily that the dexter fans are mad at Sam, just that they're upset over the editing. If you watched the live feed last night they certainly edited it in a way that wasn't consistent with the actual situations that occurred.

[Videostar]

Of all the things to criticise him for, this really isn't one of them

It is not so much the crude and rather trashy things he says it's the fact BB don't show them...god knows what he said in there that we never get to see.

[Vanessa]

Are you denying Sam saying these things? are these things fine for Sam to say to women? if Dexter said that would you be fine with that, or ranting about it on here.? ;) :joker:

If Dexter had said these comments there would be 20 threads about it by now. :joker:

[alex_front2]

Sam sleaziness is being edited out as it doesn't fit the nice sweet naive white boy (he's 23) from the Valleys schtick C5 want to peddle. They will not show him as a over sleeping sleazy misogynistic oaf so as not to harm the 1D Harry Styles fans who will vote en mass for cash cow Sam to win.

[CaudleHalbard]

Sam sleaziness is being edited out as it doesn't fit the nice sweet naive white boy (he's 23) from the Valleys schtick C5 want to peddle.

Exactly so. They want to present Sam as a flawless paragon and an inspiration to all disadvantaged young people.

Unfortunately he's an immature dirty-minded young prat!

[Amy Jade]

Sam is 23?

Why are people defending him saying this sort of thing then? I thought he was 18 or 19, my cousin is 18 and he says stuff like this. He needs to grow up a bit.

[Marsh.]

Edited out?

Hardly, the only time we used to hear him speak was when he said something like "you make my winky expand".

Which made it all the more bizarre to me when he nominated Jemima for going OTT with her innuendos. Bit hypocritical of him there.

[Videostar]

If Dexter had said these comments there would be 20 threads about it by now. :joker:

And they would be going as far as to say Dexter should be thrown out for saying those things...at least we aren't going that far.

Just a bit of fairness with the editing would be nice, lets see the good AND BAD points of all the HM's.

[Jake.]

Who cares?

[Kate!]

Why Sam comments are not shown? BB is protecting him. :nono:

Come off it. Dexter talking about blindfolding a woman and another man then entering the room unknown to her was omitted as well. Vile.

[Northern Monkey]

Wolfie was on Couch Potato. She said when Gina was doing the knife throwing task, the knife thrower`s glamorous assistant was standing near to Sam.

He said " Show your gash for bangers and mash

Lol,I like that one.

[Kris]

What about Dexters rodoeing :thumbs:


Well, truth is dexters rodeoing and every other disgusting thing he bangs on about is completely ignored. Obviously something as disgusting as rodeoing is fine where as jack the lad comments are sleazy. :conf:

[Livia]

I've lost count of the times I've heard that said by lads. Isn't it strange how prudish people get when it isn't their favourite saying it.

[MatthewS]

I'd find that inappropriate regardless of who said it...

It would be one thing coming from a minor, someone 12 or so, that doesn't know better. But a grown adult saying that is just odd. He's on national television right now, not sitting with his friends at a pub.

[MatthewS]

I'd find that inappropriate regardless of who said it...

It would be one thing coming from a minor, someone 12 or so, that doesn't know better. But a grown adult saying that is just odd. He's on national television right now, not sitting with his friends at a pub.

[optimisticcynic]

"Show your gash for bangers and mash" and "any hole's a goal" - words that may not be the starting point for a lasting marriage, but also words used by many "lads" until they become more mature and respectful of future partners. Empty words all the same.
Hasn't Dexter openly stated that he pays for sex and has different women for different days of the week/occasions - "I have one for conversations, one to look good as I go out etc" Hasn't Dexter also run lapdancing bars and claimed to have slept with the dancers? And isn't Dexter a dick? Why have Dexter fans become heralds of morality over Sam's words, when Dexter's actions make Sam look like Mother Theresa (when alive, of course).

[MatthewS]

Dexter certainly has his own issues as well...

I don't think anyone is claiming he's perfect...

(this is a thread about what sam just said though, their were numerous threads about what Dexter said when those comments were initially made. It's not like comparing Sams comments to Dexters can somehow justify them or not anyways...)

[fingers]

"Show your gash for bangers and mash" and "any hole's a goal" - words that may not be the starting point for a lasting marriage, but also words used by many "lads" until they become more mature and respectful of future partners. Empty words all the same.
Hasn't Dexter openly stated that he pays for sex and has different women for different days of the week/occasions - "I have one for conversations, one to look good as I go out etc" Hasn't Dexter also run lapdancing bars and claimed to have slept with the dancers? And isn't Dexter a dick? Why have Dexter fans become heralds of morality over Sam's words, when Dexter's actions make Sam look like Mother Theresa (when alive, of course).

Dexter is a congenital liar, and to repeat myself AGAIN I have NO favourites. NONE, Zilch, Nada. NO FAVOURITES!.

[Kizzy]

How shocking!!!!
What was dexter saying about rodeos?.... :idc:

[Indy]

"Show your gash for bangers and mash" and "any hole's a goal" - words that may not be the starting point for a lasting marriage, but also words used by many "lads" until they become more mature and respectful of future partners. Empty words all the same.
Hasn't Dexter openly stated that he pays for sex and has different women for different days of the week/occasions - "I have one for conversations, one to look good as I go out etc" Hasn't Dexter also run lapdancing bars and claimed to have slept with the dancers? And isn't Dexter a dick? Why have Dexter fans become heralds of morality over Sam's words, when Dexter's actions make Sam look like Mother Theresa (when alive, of course).

When Dexter approaches a woman put in the house for a task and offers her cash for favors, then you might have a point. Sam is doing this on broadcast tv for the whole world to see, and with people who are doing everyday jobs, not trolling at a club or otherwise expressing they are open to it.

Being a "lad" would not excuse someone saying this to a random store clerk or nurse, so why is it ok for him to say it to passing beauticians and actresses while they're doing a specific job?

The only person Dexter propositioned in the house was someone who works in the escort industry.

[CaudleHalbard]

Dexter is all talk. He has conducted himself perfectly well in the house. He has made no sleazy suggestions, or behaved lewdly, to females in the house - be they housemates or BB employees.

Pity one can't say the same about Sam, isn't it?

[optimisticcynic]

When Dexter approaches a woman put in the house for a task and offers her cash for favors, then you might have a point. Sam is doing this on broadcast tv for the whole world to see, and with people who are doing everyday jobs, not trolling at a club or otherwise expressing they are open to it.

Being a "lad" would not excuse someone saying this to a random store clerk or nurse, so why is it ok for him to say it to passing beauticians and actresses while they're doing a specific job?

The only person Dexter propositioned in the house was someone who works in the escort industry.

Ridiculous! I'm fairly certain Sam did not expect a full frontal based on his comment but was attempting to be flirty and fun, though failing. Using your logic though, I prove this argument with the fact he had no bangers and mash to hand with which to seal such a deal and thus, could not have been serious in his proposal. Men and woomen say stupid stuff to each other in the hope of pulling all the time. Sam's words pale in comparison to those BB female contestants who were trying to pull the loincloths off the male naked butlers a few series ago. Anyone remember that?

[optimisticcynic]

Dexter is all talk. He has conducted himself perfectly well in the house. He has made no sleazy suggestions, or behaved lewdly, to females in the house - be they housemates or BB employees.

Pity one can't say the same about Sam, isn't it?

Wasn't Dexter going on and on to Hazel, Gemima and anyone else that was female about their sexual prowess and experience which he assumed based on their age.

What selective memories we all have!

[MatthewS]

You get their their is a difference between saying an older woman might 'put you through your paces', and saying that 'any hole is a goal' and telling that same older woman that she makes your 'winky' expand......right?

[CaudleHalbard]

Dexter, so far as I can recall, has made no suggestions to the female housemates regarding possible sexual activity between himself and them - not so much even as a "you make my winkie expand"

Nor has he grabbed at, and made lewd comments to, BB female staff.

As I said: what a pity one can't say the same for Saintly Sam! ;)

[optimisticcynic]

You get their their is a difference between saying an older woman might 'put me through my paces', and saying that 'any hole is a goal'....

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."

Have just realised that the uproar on here may be because "any hole is a goal" has been misinterpreted to mean "using the fire exit" as opposed to the explanation above. This is not the case.

[optimisticcynic]

Dexter, so far as I can recall, has made no suggestions to the female housemates regarding possible sexual activity between himself and them - not so much even as a "you make my winkie expand"

Nor has he grabbed at, and made lewd comments to, BB female staff.

As I said: what a pity one can't say the same for Saintly Sam! ;)

:elephant:

He did though, and others on here will attest to that. I'm not a prude and think that anyone offended could just tell him to buzz off, but my concern is with the double standards as Dexter fans commence a smear campaign against Sam.

[optimisticcynic]

I have no idea why there's an elephant in my last post, or what it's meant to mean.

[GypsyGoth]

I have no idea why there's an elephant in my last post, or what it's meant to mean.

:laugh2:

[MatthewS]

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."

Have just realised that the uproar on here may be because "any hole is a goal" has been misinterpreted to mean "using the fire exit" as opposed to the explanation above. This is not the case.

Unwilling and uncomfortable? Unless you're secretly Jemima or her official representation, how could you possibly make that assertion? Jemima was never been shy to speak about sex or acts of that nature, I really doubt she took offence. If you think she'd have a problem with that comment, surely she must then have an issue with someone telling her that she's making his "winky' expand. One is definitely a little more eloquent and respectful then the other...

To be honest I don't know exactly what that term specifically refers to. We don't use that in Canada and I've never heard it before. I suspect that it means he'll shag anything with a pulse, but I suppose it could mean he'll also go with whatever hole is available. Either way isn't not really a 'positive' thing lol

You seem to dismiss all Sam's comments as acceptable because he's just a horny young lad. Dexter is only 4 years older. What's the cut off?

For the record I think Dexter has a LOT of things he needs to work on, one of them being how he views and treats woman, if what his VT says is accurate. He's also made a fairshare of d**khead remarks. I'm just noting that Sam had made "sleazy" comments as well, in some cases a little more inappropriate. I hold them both to the same standard.

[DanaC]

I agree but Sam is 23 FGS

*chuckles*

See, now, I think at 23 he is a young lad :p

[DanaC]

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."
.

Well said.

[Speedster]

I posted this in another thread, but it's worth repeating as it was shown on BOTS the week Wolfy went.

Wolfy said in an interview that during the knife throwing task with Gina Sam said to the lady that was the assistant to the knife thrower "show us your gash for bangers and mash"...but we never saw that in the HL's show edit...Sam is being protected.


What a bad mannered git. I hope he's no being protected by BB-that's not fair, but after tonight's show things may change; we saw a different side to him.

[optimisticcynic]

Unwilling and uncomfortable? Unless you're secretly Jemima or her official representation, how could you possibly make that assertion? Jemima was never been shy to speak about sex or acts of that nature, I really doubt she took offence. If you think she'd have a problem with that comment, surely she must then have an issue with someone telling her that she's making his "winky' expand. One is definitely a little more eloquent and respectful then the other...

To be honest I don't know exactly what that term specifically refers to. We don't use that in Canada and I've never heard it before. I suspect that it means he'll shag anything with a pulse, but I suppose it could mean he'll also go with whatever hole is available. Either way isn't not really a 'positive' thing lol

For the record I think Dexter has a LOT of things he needs to work on, one of them being how he views and treats woman, if what his VT says is accurate. He's also made a fairshare of d**khead remarks. I'm just noting that Sam had made "sleazy" comments as well, in some cases a little more inappropriate. I hold them both to the same standard.

Fair enough Matt. Jemima was uncomfortable though as she replied with something akin to "you will never find out", then complained to ne of the other girls. I am very ashamed that this is taking up my brain-space. She may not have been uncomfortable if asked by someone she was attracted to, but Dexter is that awkward and asexual it must have felt like her son was asking her about her sexual preferences. Hopefully Sam will grow up a tad, and Dexter will fade back into nothingness.

[Speedster]

Edited out?

Hardly, the only time we used to hear him speak was when he said something like "you make my winky expand".

Which made it all the more bizarre to me when he nominated Jemima for going OTT with her innuendos. Bit hypocritical of him there.


This^^^^^^ I still say he played a big part in her getting evicted.

[MatthewS]

Fair enough Matt. Jemima was uncomfortable though as she replied with something akin to "you will never find out", then complained to ne of the other girls. I am very ashamed that this is taking up my brain-space. She may not have been uncomfortable if asked by someone she was attracted to, but Dexter is that awkward and asexual it must have felt like her son was asking her about her sexual preferences. Hopefully Sam will grow up a tad, and Dexter will fade back into nothingness.

Yeah no worries, we obviously see it differently and that's perfectly fine. I think the question was posed to Dexter, it's not like he just went up to Jemima and made that claim on his own. They both certainly need to no a fair bit of growing up lol

:elephant:

[Maneki-neko]

Why Sam comments are not shown? BB is protecting him. :nono:

because he's cute and marketable for channel 5 obvs

[Mystic Mock]

This must be what people are looking for in a winner this year - given the number of sleazy comments that Sam has made - and given that he is now favourite to win BB14.

*shakes head in disbelief*

Sam's turning into Anthony Hutton.:joker:

[Sandz38]

because he's cute and marketable for channel 5 obvs

He's a floppy haired git!! :)

[Verbal]

Dear Daily Mail,

I am outraged at the crassness shown by a young lad of 24 using phrases such as this and influencing our precious, God fearing youth in such a horrible manner on a national TV show.

Whilst on the other hand HM Dexter is such a fine young man, who every young person should use as their role model. He's run strip clubs, he has a woman for every occasion, he has a girlfriend who he has no respect for, he has a gambling problem. I could go on.

I shall be complaining to Ofcom regarding this outrageous objectifying of women of a young, single, attractive lad from Wales. Whilst a fine, upstanding member of society such as Dexter is painted to look like a misogynistic. horrible young man. Which he clearly is not!

Yours,

Disgusted of Chichester

[JTM45]

The 'Dear Daily Mail' was a post-killer for me!
Didn't bother reading any further.:bored: