I feel sorry for Charlie.

[Jords]

The F&F nominations have really ****ed her over.

Charlie is not malicious, she hasnt played people off against each other (sorry but Callum and Dexter actively rivaled each other and so did Gina and Hazel, espcially on Gina's behalf, not gonna listen to anybody saying other) and shes really getting a load of stick over nothing.

Her problem is that she says what comes to mind when she needs to be more internalizing. But shes in a gameshow, she has the right to question motives, doesnt mean she is any more or less of a friend to Hazel and Gina (who are not angels themselves! Hazel briefly abandoned Dan in favour of Daley and Gina has been disloyal to Dexter). They are blowing this out of proportion.

I hope she stays. Ive always liked her, got a bit annoyed with the "love triangle" but shes a cool girl with a lot of interesting things to say and been a big part of the series.

[Jemal]

Tbf. Hazel bitches about the twins more than she ever will.
So yea erm.

[Pink Pegasus]

I've never seen Charlie bitch about the twins. It is weird though that she told Hazel it would "look bad" if she became friendly with Gina, and the whole telling Hazel that it might come across fake if she started showing emotion is a strange thing to say to a friend.

I do think though that tonight both Gina and Hazel may have twisted some of the things Charlie has said or done, during their bitching session or maybe they have exaggerated or lied or else gotten some wires crossed when relaying stuff back to Charlie??

[Jords]

I've never seen Charlie bitch about the twins. It is weird though that she told Hazel it would "look bad" if she became friendly with Gina, and the whole telling Hazel that it might come across fake if she started showing emotion is a strange thing to say to a friend.

I do think though that tonight both Gina and Hazel may have twisted some of the things Charlie has said or done, during their bitching session or maybe they have exaggerated or lied or else gotten some wires crossed when relaying stuff back to Charlie??

The twins' mum is absolute tool. Charlie has nominated them but she hasnt, from what weve seen, bitched about them, and shes always quite regretful when she does nominate them in the DR. It was a revengeful nomination with twisted reasons :bored:

I absolutely agree with you. Its a bit weird but Charlie was obviously just trying to look out for Hazel with what she was saying. "Dont change your character else they will hate you more", or words to that effect. Seems to me somebody planted a seed in Charlie's head that Hazel was tactically 'opening up' and she spoke out loud what the seed was growing in her mind.

Grr BB is so annoying LOL.

[Jemal]

Just waiting for cbb tbfh.
Hopefully theirs a couple beauts.

[Pink Pegasus]

The twins' mum is absolute tool. Charlie has nominated them but she hasnt, from what weve seen, bitched about them, and shes always quite regretful when she does nominate them in the DR. It was a revengeful nomination with twisted reasons :bored:

I absolutely agree with you. Its a bit weird but Charlie was obviously just trying to look out for Hazel with what she was saying. "Dont change your character else they will hate you more", or words to that effect. Seems to me somebody planted a seed in Charlie's head that Hazel was tactically 'opening up' and she spoke out loud what the seed was growing in her mind.

Grr BB is so annoying LOL.

Yeah I think she said something about Dexter putting the idea in her head by telling Hazel that that the public want to see her crack. I do think she give Callum the false idea of a strong friendship but regarding the 2 girls maybe there's a good chance things may have been just blown out of proportion, and she was just trying to give Hazel advice. Hard to know,but your explanation certainly sounds reasonable to me. I did feel sorry for her when she had Sophie, Gina, Hazel and the twins all questioning her at once.

Edit: Just to add, I have strongly suspected Charlie of different types of gameplaying since the letters from home came, but in this instance I could believe that maybe she was just trying to warn Hazel not to change too much as a favour.

[Sandz38]

That was actual bullying tonight right there on live feed I hope gina and hazel get thrown out. I don't particularly like Charlie but she is in no way a nasty person. I believe she is doing well to keep her cool and I do think she may have had a rough ride due to an addictive personality and the fact that she isn't emotionally strong, gina, hazel and Sophie ganged up so did the twits I find it disgusting that bb allowed this to continue when Charlie was clearly crying when the girls wouldn't listen!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It was only Yesterday Hazel was sat bitching about Charlie in the garden.

She is a ****ing hypocrite.

Yes Charlie said the things they are accusing her of but they are making them out to be of a different intention.

They are quoting her but making her sound like she said it in a bitchy way which she didn't.

Charlie then told Hazel everything she had said in the treehouse and now Hazel chooses to believe Gina who has called her evil the entire stay in the house over her best friend?

They all ganged up on Charlie in the garden and they loved it.

They are all thinking about the final now so im afraid Charlie will be the target this week with them knowing she will be featured heavily on highlights and therefor more likely to be evicted.

Im disappointed in how Gina is behaving tonight and the twins are acting like morons "Well if our mum says its true then its true".

Thier mum watched the same footage as us and I have not seen her really bitch about the twins but ive seen Hazel and various others slander them yet Charlie takes the fall?

Im getting ready to be highly pissed off at tommorows edit.

Voting the twins out this week.

[Jemal]

Im sorry but the whole "mothers don't lie" is the most bullsht i may have ever heard. All fair that you love your mum and trust her but im sorry mums can lie and do lie sometimes whether they like it or not.

[Sandz38]

It was only Yesterday Hazel was sat bitching about Charlie in the garden.

She is a ****ing hypocrite.

Yes Charlie said the things they are accusing her of but they are making them out to be of a different intention.

They are quoting her but making her sound like she said it in a bitchy way which she didn't.

Charlie then told Hazel everything she had said in the treehouse and now Hazel chooses to believe Gina who has called her evil the entire stay in the house over her best friend?

They all ganged up on Charlie in the garden and they loved it.

They are all thinking about the final now so im afraid Charlie will be the target this week with them knowing she will be featured heavily on highlights and therefor more likely to be evicted.

Im disappointed in how Gina is behaving tonight and the twins are acting like morons "Well if our mum says its true then its true".

Thier mum watched the same footage as us and I have not seen her really bitch about the twins but ive seen Hazel and various others slander them yet Charlie takes the fall?

Im getting ready to be highly pissed off at tommorows edit.

Voting the twins out this week.

Fantastic post well said.. :)

[CaudleHalbard]

They are all as bad as each other. None of them should be taking the moral high ground.

[Sandz38]

Im sorry but the whole "mothers don't lie" is the most bullsht i may have ever heard. All fair that you love your mum and trust her but im sorry mums can lie and do lie sometimes whether they like it or not.

I'm a mum and I do lie too all the time about Santa, tooth fairy and Easter bunny..anything else I will not lie as it isn't a way to gain trust or keep my kids talking

[SurfersCreed]

Don't feel sorry for Charlie at all.
Everything said about her rung true.

[CaudleHalbard]

Charlie is a bit strange. She tends to listen quite respectfully when men are talking to her but not to women.

[JTM45]

Hazel was vile to Charlie tonight and she was helped every step of the way by her new bestie Gina...........that's right, GINA of all f*king people!!!!

It was vomit-inducing to watch!:yuk:

[Lola844]

Come on...people get it right. So Charlie can talk about everyone and get away with it. She said so much things about Callum it was crazy that no one said a word about it. Dexter as well. She constantly offended the girls. I know many or some of you love Charlie but you keep on doing what her mom does, oh she didn't mean it, oh it just came out wrong. What is she 26 years old. She's the oldest of the girls and she acts like a 12 year old. Real Callum fans would be proud she finally got hers. Gina being nominated week after week was ok. Hazel being called out on her bs a lot was ok. Dexter being called all sorts of things in a daily basis, even dear Charlie called him sly to his face daily, that was ok as well. But god forbid someone says something to Charlie because she never means it. Even if Gina doesn't win well done. It's about time everyone stop treating her like a 5 year old.

[JTM45]

We have got it right!
I couldn't stand *****ing Callum! He's a creepy, highly annoying dickhead and a lot of people are very glad he's gone!
Charlie's far, far from perfect but she's not a malicious person in the slightest unlike Hazel and Gina. They bullied Charlie tonight and it's going to bite both of them in the ass! Hazel's going home Friday and i think when people see Gina suddenly becoming best mates with Hazel she's going to lose a lot of respect due to the sheer hypocrisy of the whole situation!

[barbel13]

Charlie was clearly bullied by Gina,Sophie,Hazel and the greedy twonks.Would like to give charlie a hug.Gina has become a vile ugly cow.She instigated the whole thing with hazel her enemy and Sophie.Only dexter gave Charlie comfort.

[Lola844]

We have got it right!
I couldn't stand *****ing Callum! He's a creepy, highly annoying dickhead and a lot of people are very glad he's gone!
Charlie's far, far from perfect but she's not a malicious person in the slightest unlike Hazel and Gina. They bullied Charlie tonight and it's going to bite both of them in the ass! Hazel's going home Friday and i think when people see Gina suddenly becoming best mates with Hazel she's going to lose a lot of respect due to the sheer hypocrisy of the whole situation!

Well when she was using Gina as an example of a girl Sam wouldn't like that was cool. Also when she told Gina she was going to say a black version of the fish in shark tales...she didn't want to offend her...cool enough. And when she told Hazel she knew how Daley felt that was cool too. And when she told Gina that morning that she didn't know if she could trust Hazel that was cool...If I gave a **** I could keep going for a day or two. Just not bothered. There not people I actually know. But glad they are making Charlie grow up...go have a rant about it, your entitled. :wavey:

[mr rochester]

Charlie managed to make LF all about her. She repeats everything hundreds and hundreds of times and goes on an on an on. She does not listen to what others say and says yeah, yeah, yeah. over them IF she stops speaking when they do. They all had feelings about the FF noms but as ever Charlie's experience of the noms was the one that came to the forefront. She is definitely not malicious and in her own way she did have Hazels's back and tried to give her good (if somewhat clumsy) advice. I just wish she knew when to let things go - it wasn't all about her. When she gets out and find out what actually happened with Hazel (her best friend who has not mentioned any thing about Daley but wants them to live together) she will understand why her best friend nominated Hazel. Just don't go on ad nauseum Charlie - we/they heard you first time...

[Ace]

It was only Yesterday Hazel was sat bitching about Charlie in the garden.

She is a ****ing hypocrite.

Yes Charlie said the things they are accusing her of but they are making them out to be of a different intention.

They are quoting her but making her sound like she said it in a bitchy way which she didn't.

Charlie then told Hazel everything she had said in the treehouse and now Hazel chooses to believe Gina who has called her evil the entire stay in the house over her best friend?

They all ganged up on Charlie in the garden and they loved it.

They are all thinking about the final now so im afraid Charlie will be the target this week with them knowing she will be featured heavily on highlights and therefor more likely to be evicted.

Im disappointed in how Gina is behaving tonight and the twins are acting like morons "Well if our mum says its true then its true".

Thier mum watched the same footage as us and I have not seen her really bitch about the twins but ive seen Hazel and various others slander them yet Charlie takes the fall?

Im getting ready to be highly pissed off at tommorows edit.

Voting the twins out this week.



Complete nonsense. Hazel was only talking about Charlie because Charlie had back-stabbed her. Talking behind her back to Gina and Sophie, who told Hazel what the sly minx had done. Charlie is a backstabber Callum and Hazel, a user Callum, twins and Hazel in fact she uses anyone for comfort and support then nominates them. She just hasn't got around to nominating Sam yet.

[arista]

The F&F nominations have really ****ed her over.

Charlie is not malicious, she hasnt played people off against each other (sorry but Callum and Dexter actively rivaled each other and so did Gina and Hazel, espcially on Gina's behalf, not gonna listen to anybody saying other) and shes really getting a load of stick over nothing.

Her problem is that she says what comes to mind when she needs to be more internalizing. But shes in a gameshow, she has the right to question motives, doesnt mean she is any more or less of a friend to Hazel and Gina (who are not angels themselves! Hazel briefly abandoned Dan in favour of Daley and Gina has been disloyal to Dexter). They are blowing this out of proportion.

I hope she stays. Ive always liked her, got a bit annoyed with the "love triangle" but shes a cool girl with a lot of interesting things to say and been a big part of the series.



But Charlie can not handle
someone against her

[joeysteele]

I am hard pressed to think of anything Charlie has said or done that is remotely interesting,the only thing she will be remembered for is a non existent love triangle that she herself did nothing to wipe out from the start of it.
I cannot even follow her chats in the diary room as she is full of contradictions.

For me, she is by a mile, the worst housemate in there now.

[rusticgal]

The F&F nominations have really ****ed her over.

Charlie is not malicious, she hasnt played people off against each other (sorry but Callum and Dexter actively rivaled each other and so did Gina and Hazel, espcially on Gina's behalf, not gonna listen to anybody saying other) and shes really getting a load of stick over nothing.

Her problem is that she says what comes to mind when she needs to be more internalizing. But shes in a gameshow, she has the right to question motives, doesnt mean she is any more or less of a friend to Hazel and Gina (who are not angels themselves! Hazel briefly abandoned Dan in favour of Daley and Gina has been disloyal to Dexter). They are blowing this out of proportion.

I hope she stays. Ive always liked her, got a bit annoyed with the "love triangle" but shes a cool girl with a lot of interesting things to say and been a big part of the series.

Totally agreed Jords...Charlie has been well misunderstood.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Complete nonsense. Hazel was only talking about Charlie because Charlie had back-stabbed her. Talking behind her back to Gina and Sophie, who told Hazel what the sly minx had done. Charlie is a backstabber Callum and Hazel, a user Callum, twins and Hazel in fact she uses anyone for comfort and support then nominates them. She just hasn't got around to nominating Sam yet.

She talked about her concerns about Hazel and asked them for advice as to what to say to her when she confronted her in the treehouse.

She said nothing that she didn't plan to say to Hazels face.

Gina and Sophie are the ones who turned that around into making it sounds bitchy and this is coming from a Gina fan.

[arista]

I am hard pressed to think of anything Charlie has said or done that is remotely interesting,the only thing she will be remembered for is a non existent love triangle that she herself did nothing to wipe out from the start of it.
I cannot even follow her chats in the diary room as she is full of contradictions.

For me, she is by a mile, the worst housemate in there now.

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[Livia]

I feel sorry for Charlie in much the same way I'd feel a bit sorry for anyone who wasn't quite the full quid.

[MTVN]

Come on...people get it right. So Charlie can talk about everyone and get away with it. She said so much things about Callum it was crazy that no one said a word about it. Dexter as well. She constantly offended the girls. I know many or some of you love Charlie but you keep on doing what her mom does, oh she didn't mean it, oh it just came out wrong. What is she 26 years old. She's the oldest of the girls and she acts like a 12 year old. Real Callum fans would be proud she finally got hers. Gina being nominated week after week was ok. Hazel being called out on her bs a lot was ok. Dexter being called all sorts of things in a daily basis, even dear Charlie called him sly to his face daily, that was ok as well. But god forbid someone says something to Charlie because she never means it. Even if Gina doesn't win well done. It's about time everyone stop treating her like a 5 year old.

Agree with this, there's only so much she can dodge responsibility with all this feeling sorry for herself and just making herself out to be too clumsy and stupid to realise what she's saying

I didn't particularly like Hazel on the LF last night and thought she came on a little strong but it's no wonder that patience with Charlie is starting to run out

[MrWong]

Tbf. Hazel bitches about the twins more than she ever will.
So yea erm.

That's been ignored in the edits.

Charlie also said that Hazel constantly bitches about Gina. The edits made it look very one sided.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It reminded me of when Lea, Lisa and Grace ganged up on Sam in BB7.

[actor99]

last night Gina was bad. she turned the whole house on Charlie. then the twins joined in then Sophie.. Dexter and Sam were the best. so ill vote for hazel. or twins or Sophie. really gone off the twins. as Dexter and Gina put it a few weeks back Charlie is less bitchier than the rest.

[Marmalite]

Well maybe it's karma come around to bite her in the arse after stringing Callum along like she did!

[Jamie585]

Charlie is the nicest, and most genuine HM in there. Hazel and Gina are just snobs.

[rusticgal]

Well maybe it's karma come around to bite her in the arse after stringing Callum along like she did!


Eeerrrr Callum was too up himself to take the hint....Charlie just wanted to be friends in and outside the house....he just wouldnt give up.
He will stalk her when he gets out the house....:joker:... all in all there is nothing mean about Charlie...she isnt a bitch...theres BITCHING and there is talking ABOUT people. She has never slagged anyone off.

[iknowyourmother]

I love Charlie. She comes across as the most genuine and honest in the house. She is flawed, but at least she's real.

[Marmalite]

Eeerrrr Callum was too up himself to take the hint....Charlie just wanted to be friends in and outside the house....he just wouldnt give up.
He will stalk her when he gets out the house....:joker:... all in all there is nothing mean about Charlie...she isnt a bitch...theres BITCHING and there is talking ABOUT people. She has never slagged anyone off.



Oh so the constant seeking him out requesting hugs and deep chats alone with him (right up until the day he left) was her way of telling him there was absolutely no hope was it?

I didn't say she was a bitch or slagged anyone off. I just merely made the point that karma has a strange way in biting people in the arse and maybe it's Charlie's turn to have her arse bitten by karma... 'tis all!

Oh and btw - I don't think we've seen the real Charlie and I don't think we ever will. She hid behind her mother for the first part, then got most of the camera attention with her stupid love triangle. Turns out she's a boring as **** really.

[Tozzie]

I feel sorry for Charlie in much the same way I'd feel a bit sorry for anyone who wasn't quite the full quid.

in my day it was perhaps she isn't a full shilling, showing my age now :shocked:

[CaudleHalbard]

in my day it was perhaps she isn't a full shilling, showing my age now :shocked:

At least you didn't say farthing! :D

[Mystic Mock]

1. Charlie did want the triangle as she knew it was her only way of getting screen time so she played them off against each other.

2. Charlie's little naive act is so fake it's unbelievable.

3. Her foot in mouth syndrome that she seems to do to the same Housemates over and over again is again fake, she deliberately tries to wind Housemates up so they will lose support from the public, only she does it in the most boring way possible.

I really hope she goes this week.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

1. Charlie did want the triangle as she knew it was her only way of getting screen time so she played them off against each other.

2. Charlie's little naive act is so fake it's unbelievable.

3. Her foot in mouth syndrome that she seems to do to the same Housemates over and over again is again fake, she deliberately tries to wind Housemates up so they will lose support from the public, only she does it in the most boring way possible.

I really hope she goes this week.

In your opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

The F&F nominations have really ****ed her over.

Charlie is not malicious, she hasnt played people off against each other (sorry but Callum and Dexter actively rivaled each other and so did Gina and Hazel, espcially on Gina's behalf, not gonna listen to anybody saying other) and shes really getting a load of stick over nothing.

Her problem is that she says what comes to mind when she needs to be more internalizing. But shes in a gameshow, she has the right to question motives, doesnt mean she is any more or less of a friend to Hazel and Gina (who are not angels themselves! Hazel briefly abandoned Dan in favour of Daley and Gina has been disloyal to Dexter). They are blowing this out of proportion.

I hope she stays. Ive always liked her, got a bit annoyed with the "love triangle" but shes a cool girl with a lot of interesting things to say and been a big part of the series.

I'm sorry but that's the other way around, Dexter nominated Gina only a couple of weeks back so I think his the disloyal one.

[Gusto Brunt]

It was only Yesterday Hazel was sat bitching about Charlie in the garden.

She is a ****ing hypocrite...

They're all two-faced.

[smeagol]

i cant feel sorry for charlie

she sent daley after dex when he was going mental that hazel n dex might be talking about him - very odd and a big s stirring thing to do
she sucked up creepy then nominated him then sucked up again n bitched tons but still went suckin up to him
she suked up to dex then bitched about him
she doesn't seem to have any friendship with gina and hazel as she agrees with others when they bitch about them

soi cant feel sorry for her. she doesn't seem to care either when called up on things its almost like she enjoys the attention and is doing it as a wind up.
i dont think she is bad person its probably just her way but its hard to feel sorry for her. hazel is just as bad and sophie

[Mystic Mock]

We have got it right!
I couldn't stand *****ing Callum! He's a creepy, highly annoying dickhead and a lot of people are very glad he's gone!
Charlie's far, far from perfect but she's not a malicious person in the slightest unlike Hazel and Gina. They bullied Charlie tonight and it's going to bite both of them in the ass! Hazel's going home Friday and i think when people see Gina suddenly becoming best mates with Hazel she's going to lose a lot of respect due to the sheer hypocrisy of the whole situation!

Charlie has been horrible to Gina and Hazel for weeks with her so called foot in mouth syndrome, but when they give it back to her once! They're the bullies.:joker:

I think you need to look up the word bully I'm afraid as that's not it.

[GiRTh]

I feel sorry for Charlie too.

She's such a fluffy head she doesn't know what she's done. I don't, however, like her trying to stir in order to get herself out of it last night.

[Mystic Mock]

In your opinion.

Yes of course it's my opinion but I'm not gonna keep saying imo in every post.

And also have you said all your opinions on this thread as imo? I don't think so so you shouldn't point out others for not doing it.

[Issac]

Feel sorry? There are consequences for what you do, hers came hard and she reacted in the only way she knew how, a way that has help her get out of trouble in the past, tears!

[Jords]

I'm sorry but that's the other way around, Dexter nominated Gina only a couple of weeks back so I think his the disloyal one.

Both been disloyal, but Dexter isnt involved in this argument so I didnt bring him up.

[Mystic Mock]

Both been disloyal, but Dexter isnt involved in this argument so I didnt bring him up.

You did in your OP.

[Jords]

You did in your OP.

No.

The F&F nominations have really ****ed her over.

Charlie is not malicious, she hasnt played people off against each other (sorry but Callum and Dexter actively rivaled each other and so did Gina and Hazel, espcially on Gina's behalf, not gonna listen to anybody saying other) and shes really getting a load of stick over nothing.

Her problem is that she says what comes to mind when she needs to be more internalizing. But shes in a gameshow, she has the right to question motives, doesnt mean she is any more or less of a friend to Hazel and Gina (who are not angels themselves! Hazel briefly abandoned Dan in favour of Daley and Gina has been disloyal to Dexter). They are blowing this out of proportion.

I hope she stays. Ive always liked her, got a bit annoyed with the "love triangle" but shes a cool girl with a lot of interesting things to say and been a big part of the series.

.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes which you did bring it up for discussion by mentioning it in your OP.

[Jords]

Yes which you did bring it up for discussion by mentioning it in your OP.

Well you may go ahead and discuss this I dont wish to I know theyve both been disloyal to each other but in my OP I am stating that Gina cant be pissed that Charlie has apparently been disloyal to her because she has with people also.

[waylander1973]

The problem is Charlie and Hazel were arguing two different points and coming from different places. Charlie was all personal emotion and was a little bit irrational but Hazel was annoyed at what she thinks is disloyalty and dishonesty from Charlie. The whole thing went around and around in circles. I don't think Charlie has bad intentions, but she can come across like that because she lacks understanding in so many things and she's very self-absorbed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I felt really bad for the girl you could see how frustrated she was.

Will be interesting to see how they edit it.

[Mystic Mock]

The problem is Charlie and Hazel were arguing two different points and coming from different places. Charlie was all personal emotion and was a little bit irrational but Hazel was annoyed at what she thinks is disloyalty and dishonesty from Charlie. The whole thing went around and around in circles. I don't think Charlie has bad intentions, but she can come across like that because she lacks understanding in so many things and she's very self-absorbed.

If Charlie only said the odd thing out of place then I would agree with you, but it's like she deliberately tries to wind Gina and Hazel up with insult after insult, especially a couple of weeks ago when she basically called Gina ugly in front of the whole house.

[Ellen]

The problem is Charlie and Hazel were arguing two different points and coming from different places. Charlie was all personal emotion and was a little bit irrational but Hazel was annoyed at what she thinks is disloyalty and dishonesty from Charlie. The whole thing went around and around in circles. I don't think Charlie has bad intentions, but she can come across like that because she lacks understanding in so many things and she's very self-absorbed.

Thats her problem, Charlie is very me me me, she says she see's others points of view and how others may feel but she rarely does. Charlie completely failed to understand what Hazel was meaning last night.

[waylander1973]

If Charlie only said the odd thing out of place then I would agree with you, but it's like she deliberately tries to wind Gina and Hazel up with insult after insult, especially a couple of weeks ago when she basically called Gina ugly in front of the whole house.

Yes that comment was wrong, I just think because of her past problems she is really that way as i stated in my earlier post, suppose we just have to disagree on the matter.