Who came across worse last night?

[Josy]

Well, who came across worse last night?

[smeagol]

sam its all his fault :)

[Niamh.]

I only managed to see 45minutes or so of L/F and I think Sophie and Gina came off worse then Charlie or Hazel tbh.

[Josy]

I think Gina done herself no favours last night and looked as if she was trying to stir **** between Charlie and Hazel.

[karezza]

The Twins came across as nasty morons.

:nono:

[Jords]

Gina

She seemed to enjoy egging it on.

[smudgie]

Gina.

Lost her place in my top 2 . Might be her downfall to be honest.

[Kazanne]

Definitely Gina

[Niamh.]

I think Gina done herself no favours last night and looked as if she was trying to stir **** between Charlie and Hazel.

Definitely. I'm not a fan of Charlie but I don't want to see anyone ganged up on like that, I can see why Hazel would be annoyed though because of what she'd found out about Charlie from Gina

[Kate!]

I have to be honest and say Gina. I think most of them were awful to some extent though.

Was a great watch from a viewer perspective.

[Kate!]

I have to be honest and say Gina. I think most of them were awful to some extent though.

Was a great watch from a viewer perspective.

[Jamie585]

Gina, closely followed by Hazel and the twins.

[Mystic Mock]

Charlie, she's always acting.

[YodaBB]

Having watched it now, Definitely Gina. It's funny that it's her boyfriend that has probably stopped her from winning :laugh:

(In future, this is why F&F should nominate for the housemate rather than their own reasons)

[YodaBB]

Charlie, she's always acting.
I don't like Charlie (Well didn't like), but I don't think she was acting to be honest. The whole house was bitching about her.

[Mystic Mock]

I can't seem to trust Charlie on her emotions anymore though YodaBB after her other Oscar performances.

[Fosse]

Sam.

[smeagol]

im watching it and hazel is going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ...................and on and on and on and on lol

hazel gina

[Mystic Mock]

A couple of people have voted for Sam and I'm wondering what has he done wrong lol? I didn't see him do anything like usual.

[smeagol]

A couple of people have voted for Sam and I'm wondering what has he done wrong lol? I didn't see him do anything like usual.

:joker:

[YodaBB]

A couple of people have voted for Sam and I'm wondering what has he done wrong lol? I didn't see him do anything like usual.

They obviously didn't watch the live feed or are just voting on the 'Who is your least favorite housemate?' poll by mistake, as there is no way Sam came across the worst :laugh:

[jet]

Until a few days ago I liked Gina best out of the girls, but now she's my least fav. I've noticed how she delights in watching others in trouble. The other night when Sam confronted Dexter in the garden she was clapping her hands and grinning with delight right under their noses. I'm surprised they didn't say anything to her about that.
Last night she loved pitting Charlie and Hazel against each other, so to me she came out the worst.

[blue]

hazel was the worst and will remain the worst

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I have to be impartial here and offer an expert opinion and Say Gina came off worse last night ;)

[Mystic Mock]

I do think some people hate it when the top dog stays at the top for too long.

It happened with Freddie in BB10, and Deana last year.

For some reason when you've been top dog for such a long time the public seem to turn on the Housemate towards the end, and history seems to be repeating itself this year with Gina.

[Seanbon]

im watching it and hazel is going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ...................and on and on and on and on lol

hazel gina

Would you stop going on and on and on about it????:joker::joker:

[Seanbon]

hazel was the worst and will remain the worst

:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:: sleep::sleep:

[Seanbon]

I have to be impartial here and offer an expert opinion and Say Gina came off worse last night ;)

In agreement,for once!?!?!:xyxwave:

[barbel13]

Gina lost my trust in her.What a complete idiot.Yes true her boyfriend noms is her downfall.Gina and Hazel I will not have as my flat mate or neighbor Two evils bitches.

[Mystic Mock]

The newer members seem to have it in for Gina.:suspect:

[Seanbon]

I do think some people hate it when the top dog stays at the top for too long.

It happened with Freddie in BB10, and Deana last year.

For some reason when you've been top dog for such a long time the public seem to turn on the Housemate towards the end, and history seems to be repeating itself this year with Gina.

The mystery to me,and others,was why she was top dog in the first place? No redeeming qualities whatsoever!?!:conf:

[Mystic Mock]

The mystery to me,and others,was why she was top dog in the first place? No redeeming qualities whatsoever!?!:conf:

Because she's one of the biggest characters of the series, such a big mystery.:joker:

[HBB1508]

Gina - she is always stirring it up and walking away laughing - not nice imo.

[KingOfTheMods]

Gina, she's a complete tosspot.

[Seanbon]

Because she's one of the biggest characters of the series, such a big mystery.:joker:

She's a "big character" if you find her "characteristics" entertaining!?! Most people with her "characteristics" are shunned in the real world! Very sad that people find constant bitching and s**t stirring to be entertaining?!? You can be entertaining and nice at the same time.ie.Brian Bello,Samanda,etc.

[Ellen]

It went a bit OTT last night,Gina didnt do herself any favours by going on & on about it.
Hazel who was reacting from Charlie's friends comments made a good points in that it was irrelevant to her who else Charlie or her had bitched about it was that she was told Charlie had bitched about her & since they are supposed to be good friends she was upset at Charlie doing that so i can understand her getting annoyed.
Charlie was caught out & went into me me me mode, then bringing up what Hazel had said about others but protesting she didnt want to stir anything up while she was doing it, it was an obvious move to deflect things onto Hazel but she missed the point with what the problem was with Hazel.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I have to be totally even though I like her want her to win but Gina across worse, closely followed by Hazel, The Twins & Dexter.

[Seanbon]

The newer members seem to have it in for Gina.:suspect:

And the "Newer Members" are not entitled to voice their opinions?? Everyone was a new member at some point!!:nono:

[Mystic Mock]

She's a "big character" if you find her "characteristics" entertaining!?! Most people with her "characteristics" are shunned in the real world! Very sad that people find constant bitching and s**t stirring to be entertaining?!? You can be entertaining and nice at the same time.ie.Brian Bello,Samanda,etc.

1. Them two just played up to the thick card which is just a boring routine after awhile.

2. With Brian Bello he just sulked for most of the day, and then BB would call him into the Diary Room for some Comedy routine.

[Mystic Mock]

And the "Newer Members" are not entitled to voice their opinions?? Everyone was a new member at some point!!:nono:

I'm not saying that, I just find it funny that all the newer members just happen to like Sam and hate Gina and Dexter.

That's what I've noticed over the last few weeks so I can't help but find it suspicious.

[Seanbon]

1. Them two just played up to the thick card which is just a boring routine after awhile.

2. With Brian Bello he just sulked for most of the day, and then BB would call him into the Diary Room for some Comedy routine.

So better to have a "nasty" gameplan than a "nice" one,to keep people entertained!?! Not my cup of tea at all!! Better if Callum had actually been a psycho,and murdered a few people in there,to keep us all entertained??? Mad world!!:conf:

[Mystic Mock]

So better to have a "nasty" gameplan than a "nice" one,to keep people entertained!?! Not my cup of tea at all!! Better if Callum had actually been a psycho,and murdered a few people in there,to keep us all entertained??? Mad world!!:conf:

But what I'm trying to say is that I don't find playing the thick card entertaining, it's boring and it's been done over and over again, plus it's all they rely on apart from Emma from BB5.

And I like your song choice that you've picked, and it would've suited Callum perfectly.

[Seanbon]

I'm not saying that, I just find it funny that all the newer members just happen to like Sam and hate Gina and Dexter.

That's what I've noticed over the last few weeks so I can't help but find it suspicious.

Personally,I don't love or hate anyone in there,but when the character assassinations started on Hazel and Callum I couldn't sit back any longer. I wasn't a fan of either,but the hatred towards the two was disgusting and way ott for their supposed sins,and the way that BBBOTS added fuel to the fire was very unfair!:nono::nono:

[DigitalMethod]

Its cute that some people feel a need to point out that she (Gina) was their 2nd fave but no longer is. LOL How is that relevant to anything? I mean if she was ur 2nd fave to begin with she was never going to get your votes to win. So i dont see how that changes anything in the big picture.

Besides Gina is now in the finals cause more than likely the lines will open firday for the Vote To Win and at this rate she is about guaranteed a Top3 finish, unless there is another twist.

[Mystic Mock]

Personally,I don't love or hate anyone in there,but when the character assassinations started on Hazel and Callum I couldn't sit back any longer. I wasn't a fan of either,but the hatred towards the two was disgusting and way ott for their supposed sins,and the way that BBBOTS added fuel to the fire was very unfair!:nono::nono:

I didn't mean to offend you, as after all you was a Dan fan so I don't think you're one of the ones I'm on about.

[Seanbon]

But what I'm trying to say is that I don't find playing the thick card entertaining, it's boring and it's been done over and over again, plus it's all they rely on apart from Emma from BB5.

And I like your song choice that you've picked, and it would've suited Callum perfectly.

I think that's known as a "Freudian Slip"!?!:joker:
I think you'll find in the long run that Callum was probably too nice to be in there! People don't trust nice people anymore,because nice people are only pretending to be nice!! Better to be nasty from the start,and people will see you as being nasty but "real" at the same time!?!?!:joker::conf::joker::xyxwave:

[Mystic Mock]

[/I][/B]
I think that's known as a "Freudian Slip"!?!:joker:
I think you'll find in the long run that Callum was probably too nice to be in there! People don't trust nice people anymore,because nice people are only pretending to be nice!! Better to be nasty from the start,and people will see you as being nasty but "real" at the same time!?!?!:joker::conf::joker::xyxwave:

I think some people do play it too nice at first though, I mean look at Callum at the beginning it was forced niceness imo, and I do believe he got more interesting when he was going more psychotic.:joker:

But I believe that I've had nice people as favourites in the past that have also been entertaining, like I think deep down Victor from BB5 was a nice guy, I also think Science was a nice guy, I also think that Charley Uchea was nice but just in the wrong year, I also think that Freddie was very likeable but got too ate up in there.

[Seanbon]

I didn't mean to offend you, as after all you was a Dan fan so I don't think you're one of the ones I'm on about.

I'm a fan of BB,since the start,many years ago,but seldom become a "fan" of a particular HM! I think that leaves people blinkered,and unable to exercise considered judgement. Some people would follow their favourite HM to the death,no matter what they say or do!?! I found Dan entertaining,but never a member of his fanclub.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

We talking about the highlight show or live feed.

Highlight show Gina was amazing.

Live feed Gina was a total b!tch.

[Niamh.]

We talking about the highlight show or live feed.

Highlight show Gina was amazing.

Live feed Gina was a total b!tch.

Live feed I think

[Shaun]

oh, I voted Sophie based on the HL show...

[Pink Pegasus]

Gina obviously believed her boyfriend and the twins mum and therefore got ultra paranoid about Charlie.

If I was in her position and my boyfriend came on screen and told me that my supposed friend Charlie was sly and manipulative and went so far as to actually nominate her for it, and I also saw the twins (who she seems to be friends with) mum say she talks behinds backs and call her a 'player' I have to admit I would be paranoid as feck too and would also be speculating for ages trying my best to figure out why my boyfriend called her sly and manipulative.

Hazel said first that Charlie had told her "don't start showing emotions" and this is what made an already paranoid Gina go "hang on a second, she was saying to me and Sophie that the public seem to like you more because of showing emotion, and she's then telling you to not show any emotion - therefore she must not want the public to like you" a logical enough conclusion to come to I think from the little that got said in that conversation.

It wasn't clarified that Charlie had said something more along the lines of that it would look strange if Hazel suddenly changed her personality. Hazel also said last night that Charlie had not talked to her again about it, when Charlie actually had talked to her about it in the treehouse which we got shown. This surprised Gina and Sophie too because Charlie had told them she was going to talk to Hazel and then Hazel said she hadn't.

Of course Gina and Sophie were going to think that Charlie was playing them or being manipulative after hearing everything being described in these words by Hazel about Charlie!

I don't see the huge amount of stirring that Gina is supposed to have done. All she did was tell Hazel that Charlie had been saying that the public liked Hazel more because she was showing emotion, and that Charlie said she wasn't sure she could trust Hazel because of this showing emotion.
Gina only said this in response to Hazel saying that Charlie had told her that she "shouldn't start showing emotions" and that she "shouldn't be friends with Gina" and Hazel saying this had shocked Gina and made her think Charlie was gameplaying.

Hazel then made out to Gina and Sophie that Charlie had told her to campaign against Dexter in the task because Charlie felt sorry for Callum and had said would she not be campaigning against the one she calls the evil one, she later said similar to Dexter that Charlie had kept feeling sorry for Callum and tried to put the idea in her head to not campaign against Callum - the flashback tonight showed Hazel being the one feeling sorry for Callum and considering not campaigning him.

They were all drinking, there was a lot of paranoia in the atmosphere, and in my opinion they were all in the wrong in some way.

Charlie was wrong to go around saying that she wasn't sure she could trust Hazel to Sophie and Gina before she went to Hazel and talked about it. That was two faced and I guess could also easily be construed as gameplaying of some sort.
Hazel had every right to be angry about that. I specifically remember Sophie saying to Charlie, "you need to go and speak with Hazel about this, otherwise it's going to come across as two-faced"

Hazel was wrong to act like she was so surprised by what Charlie had said, when Charlie had already talked to her about it in the tree house. Fair enough be angry that Charlie spoke to Gina and Sophie, but don't pretend like Charlie never spoke to you to try and explain why she said what she did about the showing emotions, and also don't lie about what words Charlie said - she didn't say you shouldn't show emotion, she said that she questioned if she had being showing emotion because Dexter had told her that is what the public wanted.

She had already explained to Hazel that it was because Dexter had just said that and after 7 weeks of no emotion Hazel had suddenly become emotional so that the timing is what made her question it. Hazel made it sound as though Charlie just said, "you shouldn't show emotion", she also made out that Charlie said " you shouldn't be friendly with Gina" - Charlie says that what she said was that it would look fake if she suddenly started being friendly with someone who she had always disliked and bitched about. I don't know who is telling the truth there.



I don't think Gina should of said anything about Charlie to Hazel. I can see [I]why she did because she was so suspicious and paranoid and was trying to suss out and get to the bottom of things - but I think she should have just spoke to Charlie about it alone.
Gina was also imo wrong to keep going on about the words "sly" and "manipulative", and to keep saying "mum's never lie" etc.
I also think Gina was wrong to say to Charlie, "well you clearly don't want me and Hazel to be friends" - they do a pretty good job of being enemies all by themselves so that shouldn't be pushed onto Charlie.
Gina was also wrong to get involved in the pack mentality thing and should imo have stepped away from it.

Again though I can sort of see how they all got sucked into it.

Charlie bitched behind Hazel's back. Hazel lied and twisted some of what Charlie said. Gina spoke about Charlie to Hazel and was a bit too dramatic about the whole "sly" "manipulative" thing. etc.

They all did something wrong imo.

I don't think it's fair though to say that Gina was the only one just sitting there stirring causing the whole thing. At least she actually gave Charlie several chances to speak and explain herself, and said that she was glad to see her defending and standing up for herself.

Alcohol and paranoia are not a good mixture. I think some lies were told and words twisted - whether this was intentional or not I cannot be sure.
This was always going to lead to a huge argument. I think they will all move on from it soon.

Sorry for mega long post, don't expect many to even bother reading it but I just wanted to type my thoughts on the matter.

Going to bed now. :sleep:

[burnie]

I like her but Gina came off really bad last night. Closely followed by Hazel.

[Tozzie]

I have to be honest and say Gina. I think most of them were awful to some extent though.

Was a great watch from a viewer perspective.

really? I found it really uncomfortable and quite upsetting viewing, I hated seeing Charlie so upset like that.

[Madlyaddicted]

Hazel, but was disappointed with gina too. Felt that Charlie was being picked on. They had all heard hard things in Noms but the ones with the biggest mouths picked up on stuff and made a huge thing out of it. I agreed with what Charlie's friend said and it wasn't Charlie's fault. She is naive and definitely misunderstood. I just wanted to give her a hug. Time for hazel to go.

[crocs]

They were all equally bad in their own unique ways. That was a really bad highlights show.

[Vanessa]

Everyone except Sam and Dexter.

[jlenoconel]

I think Gina genuinely believed something was amiss with Charlie, and that's why she went after her. Hazel is a horrible, manipulative person, and thinks nothing of targeting the person she believes is weakest in the house, much like Dexter. Hazel is possibly worse though. So yeah, Hazel is definitely the worse of the two. I hope she's voted out this week.

Also, I don't think Charlie was wrong to question Hazel's motives. She should have followed through with her thoughts though, and told Hazel to get lost. Charlie is way too trusting. She was a fool to try to talk to Hazel about her "feelings." I knew it was a mistake when I watched it yesterday.