Official COMPLAINT Thread Re. Bullying Hazel

[SurfersCreed]

The producers overstepped the line tonight.

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

I don't mean I found it 'annoying' or 'unfair'. I mean I actually found upsetting.

Although the bullying is CHANNELED through Gina, it's still the producers who are orchestrating it.

Please sign this thread or leave your comment if you were angered or upset by the events that were broadcast tonight.

[Jemal]

She is getting targetted. That's for sure. When she said she had an headache and she felt ill yet Gina still abused her power to make her do something which was out of order imo.

[Josy]

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

That would be called an endurance task...

Hazel wasn't bullied.

[waylander1973]

I agree it's too much, gina is bullying hazel.

[the_answers]

Not happy producers !

Will think very carefully before tuning in or handing over any money for CBB.

[Jarrod]

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

The task has been used almost every year since BB9...

[MTVN]

We must all barrage C5 with complains until Gina is removed from the house in disgrace!!!

[Jarrod]

We must all barrage C5 with complains until Gina is removed from the house in disgrace!!!

With just 10 days to go!!!!

[Scotialinz]

Actually disgusted. Gina is the instigator, but Charlie and Sophie are completely complicit with it! It is ethically shocking:nono:

[Josy]

We must all barrage C5 with complains until Gina is removed from the house in disgrace!!!

Or they cancel the show, great idea.

Know what's an even better idea? just turn the channel if it bothers you , I have heard its really easy to press the buttons :idc:

[steviebhoy]

What a load of pish :lol: :lol: :lol:

[brucie]

Hazel WAS bullied this evening...no question with the cowards sophie and charlie following that munter Gina's orders like sheep

[user104658]

Saying "it's just a task" is a cop-out. It's like looking at someone being singled out specifically, sneered at and laughed at, by a boss in any workplace and trying to say "Nothing wrong with it, it's your job and they're your boss so suck it up".

It's not Gina though. The producers are using her, she's a bit dim and doesn't really realise. The producers have been singling Hazel out with all sorts of tasks, for weeks. Morning gunge, eating weird things, who is the snake, popularity line-up, and now this? They try to get away with it by saying "it's all down to the public!" but when they set these things up they know EXACTLY how they're going to pan out. It really is sick. It's a heartless, once-rich, now-floundering company essentially torturing a girl to improve their ratings. The more the public bays for her blood, the better for them. They're like a Roman emperor in their box seat it the Colosseum, sending out the lions to rip someone to shreds for the entertainment of the crowd.

[MTVN]

Or they cancel the show, great idea.

Know what's an even better idea? just turn the channel if it bothers you , I have heard its really easy to press the buttons :idc:

If I turned the channel off than you would all miss out on my great opinions though

[Scotialinz]

That would be called an endurance task...

Hazel wasn't bullied.

Rubbish. Endurance? Yes, endurance of bullying from Gina. Gina is the sly and manipulative one.

[MTVN]

With just 10 days to go!!!!

No doubt it is a daunting mission we have on our hands but I am confident we can pull it off

[mazzz]

I think giving power to Gina was an orchestrated attempt by BB to set up Hazel to be targeted. I did not enjoy tonight's episode one bit. I am actually disgusted with BB producers. Three girls and Dexter ganging up on Hazel who has in my eyes just being herself, standing up to queen Gina and totally duped by Gina and Charlie who were enemies one minute and friends the next!

[Jarrod]

No doubt it is a daunting mission we have on our hands but I am confident we can pull it off

Yes I am sure..

Sorry but the title of this thread. My god. If you have a complaint take it to Channel 5 or OFCOM.

[jackc1806]

It's a tv show mate

[rusticgal]

Actually disgusted. Gina is the instigator, but Charlie and Sophie are completely complicit with it! It is ethically shocking:nono:

...Sophie NOT charlie. Sophie was stirring it all up just like she has been all series.

By the way....some of you really need to get real...its a game show FFS.

[Northern Monkey]

They've used electric shock pads before multiple times.Hazel knew this when she signed up i would assume.She must have signed a contract.No wonder the show is getting dumbed down with silly complaints like this.

[M X]

This is ridiculous. And I'm not just saying this as a Gina fan.

They know what they are signing up for when they go in Big Brother, and the 'shock' suits have been used for years.

Gina wasn't bullying Hazel. I think everyones forgetting that Gina was excluded by the entire house for the first 3 weeks? Where was everybody calling the other housemates bullies then?

[sampvt]

Or they cancel the show, great idea.

Know what's an even better idea? just turn the channel if it bothers you , I have heard its really easy to press the buttons :idc:

Wow.....This issue is hot. One mod telling another mod where to get off. Who said they are not human, lol.

[M X]

This is ridiculous. And I'm not just saying this as a Gina fan.

They know what they are signing up for when they go in Big Brother, and the 'shock' suits have been used for years.

Gina wasn't bullying Hazel. I think everyones forgetting that Gina was excluded by the entire house for the first 3 weeks? Where was everybody calling the other housemates bullies then?

[MTVN]

Wow.....This issue is hot. One mod telling another mod where to get off. Who said they are not human, lol.

I know, she is a disgrace

[user104658]

why dont you just switch off or turn the channel if you dont like it instead of ruining it for every one else by complaining?? RANT OVER!!

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

[Josy]

Rubbish. Endurance? Yes, endurance of bullying from Gina. Gina is the sly and manipulative one.

In what way was she bullied? by being shocked as part of the task?

That in no way means physical abuse as suggested by the OP in this thread, if that's the case then tons of housemates have been abused over the past few years.

[Josy]

Wow.....This issue is hot. One mod telling another mod where to get off. Who said they are not human, lol.

:joker:

[Josy]

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

[jackc1806]

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

:worship:

Hazel was just pissed off at Gina, not being brutally beaten

[user104658]

In what way was she bullied? by being shocked as part of the task?

Because they enjoyed seeing her suffer.

And not in the lighthearted-if-meanspirited way of past years where people have just found the actual reactions to the shocks funny.

They enjoyed it in the sense of actually getting off on taking power away from her, dominating her and making her feel small. The motivations behind it went way beyond "a task". They loved it, because they dislike her. Like a kid in school deliberately whacking someone they don't like in the face with a dodgeball in PE, pissing themselves with laughter, and then passing it off as "part of the game".

[sampvt]

I know, she is a disgrace

Right, that's enough, this is not acceptable. You are not allowed to insult fellow posters so I am sorry but.....

Concider yourself infracted and if you continue to insult other moderators I will be forced to ban you,

Get it....got it.....good, now behave.

[user104658]

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

No. And not just because of this, or Hazel. The way the entire show has been handled this year is sickening.

[jackc1806]

No. And not just because of this, or Hazel. The way the entire show has been handled this year is sickening.

Are you gonna watch tomorrow night?

[fit4fun]

The producers overstepped the line tonight.

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

I don't mean I found it 'annoying' or 'unfair'. I mean I actually found upsetting.

Although the bullying is CHANNELED through Gina, it's still the producers who are orchestrating it.

Please sign this thread or leave your comment if you were angered or upset by the events that were broadcast tonight.
l agree gina has shown what a jealous bitch she is leave hazel alone WHY IS GINAS B/F ON SINGING ?????

[sampvt]

:joker:

Don't you bloody start or Ill have you as well, behave, your all like bloody kids.

[MrWong]

Yet more hysterical nonsense from the OP.

[YodaBB]

Lol. So not having three course meals is now physical abuse & Big Brother physically abuses housemates each series with shocks & nasty eating tasks? :laugh:

[MrWong]

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

:joker: My sides.

[MrMinaj]

Why was Gina made queen bee

[user104658]

:joker: My sides.

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

[liampadams]

As part of the task

[jackc1806]

Was it bullying when Hazel made Gina sweep the garden?

[ahopkins]

Everyone got the same amount of Electric shocks. Hazel probably got less electric shocks if anything so why don't you complain about the other people?

[Scotialinz]

In what way was she bullied? by being shocked as part of the task?

That in no way means physical abuse as suggested by the OP in this thread, if that's the case then tons of housemates have been abused over the past few years.

It's nothing to do with being shocked......did you not watch the programme? The girls were an absolute disgrace in their actions towards Hazel. I used to like Gina but she is actually an awful bully. She loves the power and poor little Charlie, who has no sense and zero guts has aligned herself with the person she perceives will gain her the most popularity. Sophie is exactly the same and seems to stir it the whole time.

[jackc1806]

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

Dehumanised is ****ing strong. They work with storylines, both Gina and Hazel have their faults but Hazel is least liked so there is your answer.

[Nedusa]

How many Bloody times do I have to submit posts across various threads condemning the actions and behaviour of Gina. She is an absolute skank and should have been thrown off the programme weeks ago. She is vile truly horrible and tonight we got to see some good old fashioned bullying with the help of BB who basically are letting her run the show.

I am at a loss for words with this series of BB, just when you think it can't get any worse, just when you think it has scraped the bottom of the barrel lo and behold they sink even lower with a spot of organised public bullying.

FFS only this week a young girl committed suicide due to cyber bullying and yet here we have BB putting it on television for entertainment.

I'm Speechless......!!!!!!!!!

[Josy]

It's nothing to do with being shocked......did you not watch the programme? The girls were an absolute disgrace in their actions towards Hazel. I used to like Gina but she is actually an awful bully. She loves the power and poor little Charlie, who has no sense and zero guts has aligned herself with the person she perceives will gain her the most popularity. Sophie is exactly the same and seems to stir it the whole time.

This thread is about the shocks....

What else happened to Hazel tonight that would be classed as bullying?

[jackc1806]

How many Bloody times do I have to submit posts across various threads condemning the actions and behaviour of Gina. She is an absolute skank and should have been thrown off the programme weeks ago. She is vile truly horrible and tonight we got to see some good old fashioned bullying with the help of BB who basically are letting her run the show.

I am at a loss for words with this series of BB, just when you think it can't get any worse, just when you think it has scraped the bottom of the barrel lo and behold they sink even lower with a spot of organised public bullying.

FFS only this week a young girl committed suicide due to cyber bullying and yet here we have BB putting it on television for entertainment.

I'm Speechless......!!!!!!!!!

Comparing the tragedy of a girl who was bullied for months to someone getting a few light shocks as a task on a TV show is ****ing disgraceful. You should be ashamed

[rusticgal]

Because they enjoyed seeing her suffer.

And not in the lighthearted-if-meanspirited way of past years where people have just found the actual reactions to the shocks funny.

They enjoyed it in the sense of actually getting off on taking power away from her, dominating her and making her feel small. The motivations behind it went way beyond "a task". They loved it, because they dislike her. Like a kid in school deliberately whacking someone they don't like in the face with a dodgeball in PE, pissing themselves with laughter, and then passing it off as "part of the game".

Apart from Sam and Dexter...they all seemed to enjoy the pack mentality on Charlie....that was 5 against 1...not 1 against 1 (Charlie was just the spokesperson remember).

[user104658]

1. Its not live
2. IMO its just part of the task Big Brother has given other housemates extra power like this before so why did you not complain then??
3. And im saying this as a person who has been a victim of bullying before and I dont see this as bullying.
4. I think Hazel and Gina are both as bad as eachother. Theyre always winding one another up, so there is not just one person being singled out

1. I should have said "unscripted" on "non-fictional" (although that's debatable this year...), couldn't think of the right word.

2. Because people very rarely abuse that extra power with genuine viciousness.

3. I'm not sure "bullying" is exactly the right word for it, but whatever it is it's certainly not "right".

4. If it was just between Gina and Hazel then yet, fine, there's been a lot of tit-for-tat and there have been plenty of these "rivalries" over the years. But the extra meddling by the show's production this year has completely altered how all of this has gone down, and Hazel HAS been singled out, since the point when Daley was removed.

[MrWong]

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

Yes.

Are you really claiming that she has?

Slaves were dehumanized. Prisoners of war are dehumanized.

[jackc1806]

In the video online today Hazel called Gina ugly in the morning with her make up, Gina said bad things too. They are both grown women who are capable of walking at anytime if they are being 'bullied'. In absolute disbelief someone compared this to the Ask.fm suicide. What a ridiculous statement.

[user104658]

Comparing the tragedy of a girl who was bullied for months to someone getting a few light shocks as a task on a TV show is ****ing disgraceful. You should be ashamed

It's not disgraceful, it's perfectly valid. I don't think the actions themselves are being compared but the point is completely correct. A major TV show is singling someone out to be ridiculed and laughed at and practically encouraging a viciousness in the online community to brand her as this, that and whatever. It's "troll culture" maid mainstream by a well known TV show. When this **** is going on, how can we expect young people NOT to be bullying each other online like that poor girl was?? Everything around them is telling them that it's OK / fun / hilarious to demonize and attack someone in the name of entertainment.

[Seanbon]

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

The task has been used almost every year since BB9...

Not by one HM bullying another one!!:nono:

[Nedusa]

Comparing the tragedy of a girl who was bullied for months to someone getting a few light shocks as a task on a TV show is ****ing disgraceful. You should be ashamed

Yes I'm ashamed , ashamed at your complete and utter inability to understand the parallels between the two stories. I know they are worlds apart but think if its put on TV and shown as entertainment then eventually real tragedies can happen.

I'm sorry you haven't got the sense to see that , maybe it's idiots like you who enjoy watching bullying on TV, most decent normal fans of BB would be outraged by this evenings show....!!!!

[user104658]

Slaves were dehumanized. Prisoners of war are dehumanized.


She has been reduced to an "evil pantomime character", a "homewrecking slut" with no emotions who is fair game for destruction. It's not the first time it's happened on BB, but it is probably the worst.

By definition, this is dehumanization.

Just because it's not the worst example of it, does not mean that it's irrelevant. There are plenty of malnourished children in the UK, for example. Pointing out that "there are children in Africa who get less" doesn't mean that those UK children are not malnourished.

[jackc1806]

It's not disgraceful, it's perfectly valid. I don't think the actions themselves are being compared but the point is completely correct. A major TV show is singling someone out to be ridiculed and laughed at and practically encouraging a viciousness in the online community to brand her as this, that and whatever. It's "troll culture" maid mainstream by a well known TV show. When this **** is going on, how can we expect young people NOT to be bullying each other online like that poor girl was?? Everything around them is telling them that it's OK / fun / hilarious to demonize and attack someone in the name of entertainment.

It isn't valid. It just doesn't make any sense, comparing something so severe and tragic where a 14 year old was told to kill herself by anon people everyday too kill herself to an endurance task on a TV show. This task would not in any way promote bullying, what absolute crap- Hazel gives a good as she gets, both grown women bitch about eachother behind their backs. Don't forget Hazel had also 'bullied' Gina, making her sweep the garden. Bullying is a relentless sustained attack on one person for a long while, a task is not that.

[wormsinfested]

Is it just me or are all the women in the house complete bitches? Hazel is a bitch, Gina is a bitch, Sophie is a bitch and Charlie is just a bitch in the end as well. All ****ing **** stirrers. And yeah, Hazel deserves the **** she got. She is after all the worst bitch in there and has been it since the start.

[jackc1806]

She has been reduced to an "evil pantomime character", a "homewrecking slut" with no emotions who is fair game for destruction. It's not the first time it's happened on BB, but it is probably the worst.

By definition, this is dehumanization.

Just because it's not the worst example of it, does not mean that it's irrelevant. There are plenty of malnourished children in the UK, for example. Pointing out that "there are children in Africa who get less" doesn't mean that those UK children are not malnourished.

Hazel called Gina ugly in the morning.

[Speedster]

Why was Gina made queen bee

She was called to the D.r and told she was Queen Bee.

[user104658]

Yes I'm ashamed , ashamed at your complete and utter inability to understand the parallels between the two stories. I know they are worlds apart but think if its put on TV and shown as entertainment then eventually real tragedies can happen.

Exactly. It's being normalised and turned into light entertainment. The people who bullied that poor girl to death, I'm certain, had NO IDEA what the consequences of their actions would be - they just thought it was a bit of fun, like pouring salt on a slug. They see it as "not real"... until something tragic happens.

[jackc1806]

Yes I'm ashamed , ashamed at your complete and utter inability to understand the parallels between the two stories. I know they are worlds apart but think if its put on TV and shown as entertainment then eventually real tragedies can happen.

I'm sorry you haven't got the sense to see that , maybe it's idiots like you who enjoy watching bullying on TV, most decent normal fans of BB would be outraged by this evenings show....!!!!

There is no parallel. It is completely and utterly different and no one will take any motivation from a task on BB to bully someone. And I do not enjoy watching bullying, their is no bullying to watch. They both are as bad as each other.

[Jords]

It wasnt bullying but Gina did pick on her (although Hazel also progressed things by taking the buzzer/wings off). I did find her really annoying tonight must say...

[Speedster]

Everyone got the same amount of Electric shocks. Hazel probably got less electric shocks if anything so why don't you complain about the other people?

She actually got more because BB told Gina to pick someone out for Harsher treatment so she picked Hazel. Said she felt bad but did it anyway.

[jackc1806]

Exactly. It's being normalised and turned into light entertainment. The people who bullied that poor girl to death, I'm certain, had NO IDEA what the consequences of their actions would be - they just thought it was a bit of fun, like pouring salt on a slug. They see it as "not real"... until something tragic happens.

Well they did, how the **** is telling someone to die in jest. Most normal people, even children would find it appalling to tell someone to die. Even if BB did 'promote' this 'bullying' how would any normal person be swayed and think it is right to tell people to die. What absolute sensationalist bollcocks.

[user104658]

Hazel called Gina ugly in the morning.

Like I said it's not about Gina and Hazel. Housemate feuds have always happened. In fact even last year, Conor was worse to Deana than Gina or Hazel have been to each other. But, last year the producers weren't weaving a narrative specifically to make things hard for Deana and then handing Conor the power to belittle her "legitimately" by making him King Of The House.

That's why it's different. BB is deliberately controlling the whole thing and it's rapidly going downhill.

[Black Dagger]

Get a ****ing grip.

[jackc1806]

It wasnt bullying but Gina did pick on her (although Hazel also progressed things by taking the buzzer/wings off). I did find her really annoying tonight must say...

They are as bad as each other. The task was designed for Gina Hazel confrontation but it ain't bullying!

[liampadams]

I initially did think that this wasnt bullying but now im not sure...I dont know. Im sorry if I was wrong... :(

[Seanbon]

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

Well said Toy Soldier!:thumbs:
Also all the people saying she signed up for it,and she knew in advance of the shock-suits,no one signs up to be bullied,and giving the power to shock a HM to someone who is a delusional vindictive bitch is probably not part of the deal either!?!?!:nono:

[serensilver]

Gina is bullying Hazel, Hazel may go tomorrow but this task has ruined her chances of winning the show

[Tozzie]

She is getting targetted. That's for sure. When she said she had an headache and she felt ill yet Gina still abused her power to make her do something which was out of order imo.

I don't like either Gina or Hazel but if I am being fair how do I know that Hazel really did feel poorly? She could have been feigning. If Hazel was feeling ill she should have gone to the diary room and said so . She was very mangy in the task, no one wanted to do it but they all did, including the twins :shocked:

[Patrick]

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

The task has been used almost every year since BB9...

Almost? :laugh:

[jackc1806]

Like I said it's not about Gina and Hazel. Housemate feuds have always happened. In fact even last year, Conor was worse to Deana than Gina or Hazel have been to each other. But, last year the producers weren't weaving a narrative specifically to make things hard for Deana and then handing Conor the power to belittle her "legitimately" by making him King Of The House.

That's why it's different. BB is deliberately controlling the whole thing and it's rapidly going downhill.

Okay, well you know what you should do? Throw your TV out the window, disconnect your computer, wrap yourself in cotton wool and hand yourself into the loony bin.

BB are chasing ratings by trying to create conflict. Their is no bullying, both girls bitch about each other and whatever narrative BB have (create conflict not bullying) is irrelevant

[james130]

Let's see how Gina likes it...
(Refers to new sig.)

[MrWong]

She has been reduced to an "evil pantomime character", a "homewrecking slut" with no emotions who is fair game for destruction. It's not the first time it's happened on BB, but it is probably the worst.

By definition, this is dehumanization.

Just because it's not the worst example of it, does not mean that it's irrelevant. There are plenty of malnourished children in the UK, for example. Pointing out that "there are children in Africa who get less" doesn't mean that those UK children are not malnourished.

There's been loads of them over the years.

With way worse treatment.

She'll get boo'd. Then go on to further her modelling career in the UK.

[user104658]

Well they did, how the **** is telling someone to die in jest. Most normal people, even children would find it appalling to tell someone to die. Even if BB did 'promote' this 'bullying' how would any normal person be swayed and think it is right to tell people to die. What absolute sensationalist bollcocks.

You're missing the point entirely. It shouldn't be in jest, but they see it that way. Singling people out for entertainment SHOULDN'T be normal but it's increasingly being seen that way by kids because of how it's shown in the mainstream media. Big Brother this year is using it as entertainment and little things like that all across the media, all adding up, lead kids to the sort of mindset where it's OK to torment someone for fun. It's a game, it's not real, until suddenly someone gets hurt. And then no one's entertained any more, all of a sudden.

It's not sensationalist at all. I have my fiancée's teenage sister on FaceBook and this stuff goes on all of the time. Namecalling, threats, ganging-up... it's all totally normal to young teens today. Think about WHY it's become normal and you'll realise that situations like this years' BB are a big part of the problem. Just tune into BOTS and look at their wide eyes and grinning faces as Gina and Hazel tear lumps out of each other because of a task set by BB.

[MrWong]

Let's see how Gina likes it...
(Refers to new sig.)

That sig just makes Hazel look like an evil **** tbh.

[james130]

That sig just makes Hazel look like an evil **** tbh.

Yeah it would, if it was a real situation.
Instead it just makes me look like and evil **** :xyxwave:

[Seanbon]

How many Bloody times do I have to submit posts across various threads condemning the actions and behaviour of Gina. She is an absolute skank and should have been thrown off the programme weeks ago. She is vile truly horrible and tonight we got to see some good old fashioned bullying with the help of BB who basically are letting her run the show.

I am at a loss for words with this series of BB, just when you think it can't get any worse, just when you think it has scraped the bottom of the barrel lo and behold they sink even lower with a spot of organised public bullying.

FFS only this week a young girl committed suicide due to cyber bullying and yet here we have BB putting it on television for entertainment.

I'm Speechless......!!!!!!!!!

Agree 100%,they are a disgrace,and all the people getting "enjoyment" from this should be ashamed of themselves!!:nono:

[kate2013]

Im not a fan of Hazel but I feel uncomfortable watching whats happening with Hazel now, that tells me its wrong. There has to be a line somewhere

[jackc1806]

You're missing the point entirely. It shouldn't be in jest, but they see it that way. Singling people out for entertainment SHOULDN'T be normal but it's increasingly being seen that way by kids because of how it's shown in the mainstream media. Big Brother this year is using it as entertainment and little things like that all across the media, all adding up, lead kids to the sort of mindset where it's OK to torment someone for fun. It's a game, it's not real, until suddenly someone gets hurt. And then no one's entertained any more, all of a sudden.

It's not sensationalist at all. I have my fiancée's teenage sister on FaceBook and this stuff goes on all of the time. Namecalling, threats, ganging-up... it's all totally normal to young teens today. Think about WHY it's become normal and you'll realise that situations like this years' BB are a big part of the problem. Just tune into BOTS and look at their wide eyes and grinning faces as Gina and Hazel tear lumps out of each other because of a task set by BB.

To suggest people are horrible to each other because of the media is terrible. Cavemen used to beat each other up, surely they were influenced by Big Brother? Everybody is nasty at some point in their lives and while I do agree violent video games, films and TV shows will effect SOME people, the vast majority of people who enjoy upsetting people wouldn't be any nicer if tonight's BB wasn't aired.

[Jords]

Let's see how Gina likes it...
(Refers to new sig.)

LOL thats awful

[jackc1806]

Agree 100%,they are a disgrace,and all the people getting "enjoyment" from this should be ashamed of themselves!!:nono:

No one is, people are just pointing out it isn't bullying

[Jake.]

James your sig :laugh:

[james130]

James your sig :laugh:

Glad someone appreciates my humour. :hugesmile: :elephant:

[Seanbon]

It's not disgraceful, it's perfectly valid. I don't think the actions themselves are being compared but the point is completely correct. A major TV show is singling someone out to be ridiculed and laughed at and practically encouraging a viciousness in the online community to brand her as this, that and whatever. It's "troll culture" maid mainstream by a well known TV show. When this **** is going on, how can we expect young people NOT to be bullying each other online like that poor girl was?? Everything around them is telling them that it's OK / fun / hilarious to demonize and attack someone in the name of entertainment.

What was nearly as bad as the show,was the reveling of the BBBOTS muppets in the bullying,basically saying Hazel deserved it!?!:nono:

[Speedster]

I don't like either Gina or Hazel but if I am being fair how do I know that Hazel really did feel poorly? She could have been feigning. If Hazel was feeling ill she should have gone to the diary room and said so . She was very mangy in the task, no one wanted to do it but they all did, including the twins :shocked:


Hazel went to the D.R and BB gave her a spray because her sinuses were causing her a bad head ache but she lost it.

[jackc1806]

Bullying existed before TV. While somethings are influenced by the media, being nasty isn't one of them.

[MrWong]

Yeah it would, if it was a real situation.
Instead it just makes me look like and evil **** :xyxwave:

Not really. It just backs up the comments that she made in todays argument.

:xyxwave:

[joeysteele]

It was throughout a pick on Hazel highlights by Gina aided by hang dog expressioned face Charlie.

Not nice to watch at times, not bullying but a bit out of order and a bit too much for my liking too.

[SurfersCreed]

It's not Gina though. The producers are using her, she's a bit dim and doesn't really realise. The producers have been singling Hazel out with all sorts of tasks, for weeks. Morning gunge, eating weird things, who is the snake, popularity line-up, and now this? They try to get away with it by saying "it's all down to the public!" but when they set these things up they know EXACTLY how they're going to pan out. It really is sick. It's a heartless, once-rich, now-floundering company essentially torturing a girl to improve their ratings. The more the public bays for her blood, the better for them. They're like a Roman emperor in their box seat it the Colosseum, sending out the lions to rip someone to shreds for the entertainment of the crowd.


^Sound observation.
Thats exactly why I made this thread: It's NOT about being "anti-Gina" (though goodness knows, I find her utterly repellent).
Its a message to the producers to let them know that we see whats going on and that their bullying in the name of "entertainment" won't allowed to continue with impunity!

[Seanbon]

No one is, people are just pointing out it isn't bullying

Well the BBBOTS muppets seemed to take great enjoyment from it!!

[Kizzy]

I stopped watching BOTS..... They are so annoying, after they sucked daleys arse they can all sod off....

[SurfersCreed]

It's a tv show mate

^Yes it is. Its a "reality" TV show. And the reality here is that someone is being bullied.
Does the fact that we're seeing it on TV make it less real to you?

[CaudleHalbard]

Never mind. Hazel had less than 24 hours to go in the house. She should have gone long ago.

I doubt she feels someone like Gina is even capable of bullying her and would probably be quite insulted by this thread.

[Seanbon]

^Sound observation.
Thats exactly why I made this thread: It's NOT about being "anti-Gina" (though goodness knows, I find her utterly repellent).
Its a message to the producers to let them know that we see whats going on and that their bullying in the name of "entertainment" won't allowed to continue with impunity!

It's quite funny how you asked anyone who saw it as bullying to sign up and leave a message,and yet you got a load of people disagreeing that it was bullying! Debate is good,but I don't think you meant it as a discussion thread!?! Many years ago,if someone asked you to sign a petition to free Nelson Mandela,would you sign it and then write down your argument as to why he should be kept in prison!?!:conf:

[Cocidius]

That word slays me. She is not being Bullied. If she would do what she was told it would have went smoothly. You know since "Hazel gives 100% to task". Hahaha I hope Hazel stays for pure entertainment.

[Seanbon]

Never mind. Hazel had less than 24 hours to go in the house. She should have gone long ago.

I doubt she feels someone like Gina is even capable of bullying her and would probably be quite insulted by this thread.

I'm sure Hazel is well able to handle Gina,but the point is bullying is being condoned,and presented as entertainment!!:nono:

[jackc1806]

^Yes it is. Its a "reality" TV show. And the reality here is that someone is being bullied.
Does the fact that we're seeing it on TV make it less real to you?

No, just confirms to me you don't know what the word 'bullying' means.

[Indy]

That would be called an endurance task...

Hazel wasn't bullied.

I can't help but wonder, if they ever tried a BBUS style endurance task, how many complaints for cruelty would there be? Bonus if they include have-not treatment with nothing but protein porridge to eat all week and a metal bed.

[mr rochester]

Last week in a different task, Hazel categorically said that it was no use getting upset with her she was doing a task - she always did her tasks to the best of her ability. So Gina doing PRECISELY what she has been ordered to do by BB - is no different. Hazel however, did not like Gina doing her task to the best of her ability.

The tasks are not set by the housemates.

[SurfersCreed]

It's quite funny how you asked anyone who saw it as bullying to sign up and leave a message,and yet you got a load of people disagreeing that it was bullying! Debate is good,but I don't think you meant it as a discussion thread!?! Many years ago,if someone asked you to sign a petition to free Nelson Mandela,would you sign it and then write down your argument as to why he should be kept in prison!?!:conf:

^Not sure whether its ur deficiency in Maths or ur poor English comprehension that's giving you problems here but most posters on this thread have said that what we saw tonight WAS bullying.
As for bringing up Nelson Mandela... LOL! Pathetic! Try again!

[jet]

Or they cancel the show, great idea.

Know what's an even better idea? just turn the channel if it bothers you , I have heard its really easy to press the buttons :idc:

People are upset and angry, and is there any need to make things worse? After all, the thread intent was clear -

Please sign this thread or leave your comment if you were angered or upset by the events that were broadcast tonight.

My stomach was in knots watching the vids on the Channel 5 site, and I don't want to be told to just stop watching. I've been watching BB from Day one and if I or anyone else don't agree with something, it's not fair to say too bad. After all, we have spent money over the years on the show and if we don't agree with something we have a right to say so, and not be told to it's easy to press buttons. It's not on.

[Josy]

People are upset and angry, and is there any need to make things worse? After all, the thread intent was clear -



My stomach was in knots watching the vids on the Channel 5 site, and I don't want to be told to just stop watching. I've been watching BB from Day one and if I or anyone else don't agree with something, it's not fair to say too bad. After all, we have spent money over the years on the show and if we don't agree with something we have a right to say so, and not be told to it's easy to press buttons. It's not on.

What did I make worse? that post you quoted was a reply to another mod, we were having a bit of a laugh along with another forum member, but silly me forgetting what serious business the internet is eh.

As for the quote from the original post, since this is a forum and on forums we discuss things, regardless of what the OP posted, people will do and have a right to post an opinion whether they are in agreement with the original post or not.

[halfacrown]

Wow, people are going crackers! Into the home straight and fans support for their chosen housemate is reaching hysteria. It was the Gina show tonight, all set up by BB, as were the friends and family noms... Sam seeing what Sophie and Dexter said about him... the putting of Hazel and Daley together in the safe house... Anyone see a pattern emerging? Don't blame anybody other than BB for stirring the pot!

Hazel has looked fed up and done with it for two weeks now, so she obviously didn't enjoy being zapped in the arse whilst Gina sat on a thrown, and so she didn't play ball. Was she bullied? Of course not! She didn't choose to get on with it and do exactly as everyone (including Gina by the way) has done all series. She no longer cares and just wants out. All this is pretty standard BB fodder, they sign up for it and no doubt beg, during the audition process, for the privilege of being electrocuted by Big Brother.

[jet]

It's nothing to do with being shocked......did you not watch the programme? The girls were an absolute disgrace in their actions towards Hazel. I used to like Gina but she is actually an awful bully. She loves the power and poor little Charlie, who has no sense and zero guts has aligned herself with the person she perceives will gain her the most popularity. Sophie is exactly the same and seems to stir it the whole time.

So spot on! You see the whole picture clearly. :worship:

[JennyJalan]

No, just confirms to me you don't know what the word 'bullying' means.

^At what point, according toyour definition, does it become bullying then?
When Gina and her minions are jumping on Hazel's bloodied corpse??

Tonight was DEFINITELY bullying!

[jet]

How many Bloody times do I have to submit posts across various threads condemning the actions and behaviour of Gina. She is an absolute skank and should have been thrown off the programme weeks ago. She is vile truly horrible and tonight we got to see some good old fashioned bullying with the help of BB who basically are letting her run the show.

I am at a loss for words with this series of BB, just when you think it can't get any worse, just when you think it has scraped the bottom of the barrel lo and behold they sink even lower with a spot of organised public bullying.

FFS only this week a young girl committed suicide due to cyber bullying and yet here we have BB putting it on television for entertainment.

I'm Speechless......!!!!!!!!!

Where is an 'APPLAUSE' emoticon when you need one?

[megamaja40]

Totally agree.. Terrible bullying.... Hazel did every task without complaining... This went too far... Also didn't like the paddy stamp for hazel... Bang out of order..

[Kizzy]

So spot on! You see the whole picture clearly. :worship:

I see it this way too :D

[Cocidius]

OMG she is not being Bullied and how are people condemning her for treating Hazel like Hazel would treat her. At the same time trying to do the same thing in your post by calling Gina names and putting her down . According to this logic what goes around apparently come back around.

[jet]

Yes I'm ashamed , ashamed at your complete and utter inability to understand the parallels between the two stories. I know they are worlds apart but think if its put on TV and shown as entertainment then eventually real tragedies can happen.

I'm sorry you haven't got the sense to see that , maybe it's idiots like you who enjoy watching bullying on TV, most decent normal fans of BB would be outraged by this evenings show....!!!!

I think I love you Nedusa....

[megamaja40]

OMG she is not being Bullied and how are people condemning her for treating Hazel like Hazel would treat her. At the same time trying to do the same thing in your post by calling Gina names and putting her down . According to this logic what goes around apparently come back around.

Gina went too far tonight... And I object to her calling hazel a paddy.... After her phone call she. Lost the plot and showed her true colours

[jet]

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

You are absolutely right in every word you have posted on this subject. The bully culture on our TV screens these days has numbed a lot of people to the reality of the effect it has on the person who is bullied. Unless that person is crying buckets of tears and broken many people can't see that they might be affected inside by the cruelty toward them.
If a person puts up a good front and tries to stand up to the bully, then they are demonized because they didn't crumple up in a heap and let the masses have the pleasure of seeing them being demoralized.
Hazel is a dignified sort of person and Gina was trying damn hard to get Hazel to lose her dignity. That is bullying of the worst kind - trying to lower someone's dignity. I can't believe I ever liked Gina - she is nothing but a thug.

[the_answers]

It's not Gina though. The producers are using her, she's a bit dim and doesn't really realise. The producers have been singling Hazel out with all sorts of tasks, for weeks. Morning gunge, eating weird things, who is the snake, popularity line-up, and now this? They try to get away with it by saying "it's all down to the public!" but when they set these things up they know EXACTLY how they're going to pan out. It really is sick. It's a heartless, once-rich, now-floundering company essentially torturing a girl to improve their ratings. The more the public bays for her blood, the better for them. They're like a Roman emperor in their box seat it the Colosseum, sending out the lions to rip someone to shreds for the entertainment of the crowd.
Well put !
Wouldn't at all be suprised...

Also makes me wonder whether they're doing it deliberately to create a backlash, which makes the vote closer which ker-chinggg, is good for them.

Are we the paying voting public being taken for fools too ?

At the end of the day, few bother to vote for a shoe-in.
Surely they MUST know that ?...

[user104658]

Well put !
Wouldn't at all be suprised...

Also makes me wonder whether they're doing it deliberately to create a backlash, which makes the vote closer which ker-chinggg, is good for them.

Are we the paying voting public being taken for fools too ?

At the end of the day, few bother to vote for a shoe-in.
Surely they MUST know that ?...

They definitely catalyzed the dexter and callum situation to get more people to vote, since both were up and people were taking sides. I don't really understand what they're doing this week at all as Gina isn't even up! There's no vote to polarize for cash, unless they expect the votes to jump to Charlie instead.

[Cocidius]

Gina went too far tonight... And I object to her calling hazel a paddy.... After her phone call she. Lost the plot and showed her true colours

Gina showed her colors the first week. The fact that she can be a bitch and a nice person just means she's not a one note person. Also she wanted to pick someone else for the task after she noticed Hazel was getting butt hurt. Until Charlie said she didn't feel bad after she heard about the F**ing bitches thing or was I the only one who watched that clip instead of rushing to judgment. However I get that most people only watch the HL. So it's understandable.

[the_answers]

One other thing...
Whether it's "bullying" or not, the blatant bias is damn unfair.

Notice how everyone on the BBBOTS panel (even good mate Dan) said they wanted to her to go tonight.
Fair enough he said it in the house before too.
But he also said Charlie had done herself some good !

Why can't HM's just be treated equally with an equal share of tasks and be let to battle it out FAIRLY ?
Is that really too much to ask ?!

[the_answers]

They definitely catalyzed the dexter and callum situation to get more people to vote, since both were up and people were taking sides. I don't really understand what they're doing this week at all as Gina isn't even up! There's no vote to polarize for cash, unless they expect the votes to jump to Charlie instead.
Whilst it seems unlikely for them to predict that Charlie would be picked as head guard (and a backlash would ensue) I wouldn't rule it out.

For me it begs the question...
If you were running the show and wanted to boost voting profits, what would you go with ?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hate to say it but i felt uncomfortable watching Hazel being on the receiving end of yet another task.

I wont complain to Ofcom due to the fact im not a loser and i do actually want to keep the show on the air but i will air my disapproval on the forums which BB producers (especially DS) do read.

[Cocidius]

One other thing...
Whether it's "bullying" or not, the blatant bias is damn unfair.

Notice how everyone on the BBBOTS panel (even good mate Dan) said they wanted to her to go tonight.
Fair enough he said it in the house before too.
But he also said Charlie had done herself some good !

Why can't HM's just be treated equally with an equal share of tasks and be let to battle it out FAIRLY ?
Is that really too much to ask ?! They do get task. BB just doesn't show them in the HL because they're boring. If you watched any of the live feeds you'll know why they choose certain people to show. Because they need a story of the week. They only have 40 or so minutes to clip together.If they put all the stuff about everyone else they would have to double the amount of time they get to show it.

[halfacrown]

Hate to say it but i felt uncomfortable watching Hazel being on the receiving end of yet another task.

I wont complain to Ofcom due to the fact im not a loser and i do actually want to keep the show on the air but i will air my disapproval on the forums which BB producers (especially DS) do read.

Firstly , I don't think Hazel was bullied. However, I don't agree that complaining to Ofcom would make anyone a loser. Ofcom exists specifically to look at complaints about broadcast material. They only uphold genuine complaints. Therefore they are capable of steering BB away from over-stepping the mark and making itself unpalatable to viewers. I think it's probably the biggest myth amongst TIBB posters: the idea that complaints will end the show, the opposite is more likely to be true.

[Indy]

Firstly , I don't think Hazel was bullied. However, I don't agree that complaining to Ofcom would make anyone a loser. Ofcom exists specifically to look at complaints about broadcast material. They only uphold genuine complaints. Therefore they are capable of steering BB away from over-stepping the mark and making itself unpalatable to viewers. I think it's probably the biggest myth amongst TIBB posters: the idea that complaints will end the show, the opposite is more likely to be true.

When you consider that both BB and BotS get enough complaints every week to make the OFCOM summary report (only shows with 10 or more complaints on a given airing make the report), if complaining was going to cancel the show, it would've happened back when Jay was still there.

As for this, though, Hazel and Gina each give as good as they get, and in comparison to what Daley did to her, no, I don't think Gina has committed grievous harm against her. Contrary to the real world, where someone has to die before bullying behavior is taken seriously, in that house, all she has to do is go to BB to complain and the reaction is instant.

[JennyJalan]

If Hazel resorted to crying and tearful diary room chats, BB would probably be FORCED to step in.
As it is, Hazel has chosen to be strong, which unfortunately means BB can let the bullying continue.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hazel was HIDING tears when she put that blanket over her face!
Being told that she only had porridge to sate her hunger, while the HM who'd been bullying her and electrocuting her all day would be getting a delicious meal, would definitely make most people cry.
And then she had to endure more taunts from Gina ("Stay the ******* away!" while she was trying to sleep and put the whole horrible day behind her!

Wasn't it enough for Gina that she'd been given power to bully Hazel in the task?
That she'd been rewarded with a phone call from her boyfriend AND real food?!
She still has to taunt Hazel while she's trying to sleep after a day of slaving away, having no real food??
The word "disgusting" doesn't even BEGIN to describe such bullying!

[Lwize]

Its just a task. Shock pads have been used many times before.
I see no "bullying" of Hazel.

[Cocidius]

If Hazel resorted to crying and tearful diary room chats, BB would probably be FORCED to step in.
As it is, Hazel has chosen to be strong, which unfortunately means BB can let the bullying continue.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hazel was HIDING tears when she put that blanket over her face!
Being told that she only had porridge to sate her hunger, while the HM who'd been bullying her and electrocuting her all day would be getting a delicious meal, would definitely make most people cry.
And then she had to endure more taunts from Gina ("Stay the ******* away!" while she was trying to sleep and put the whole horrible day behind her!

Wasn't it enough for Gina that she'd been given power to bully Hazel in the task?
That she'd been rewarded with a phone call from her boyfriend AND real food?!
She still has to taunt Hazel while she's trying to sleep after a day of slaving away, having no real food??
The word "disgusting" doesn't even BEGIN to describe such bullying!

Talk about a word that's quickly losing it's meaning(if not already). Had Hazel just done as told it wouldn't have gone that far and I think you're for getting the fact that Hazel's a Bitch she's just not a likable one. I don't feel sorry for her one bit. Because if there was someone she didn't like and she could turn the house against them she would. You'd be kidding yourself if you think she wouldn't.

[JennyJalan]

Talk about a word that's quickly losing it's meaning
^The only word that lost its true meaning was the word "racism", when Gina used it in week 1.
In fact, looking back I realise that we got a glimpse of Gina's bullying nature right there.

[pcro]

The producers overstepped the line tonight.

The physical abuse (electro shocks, the hunger rations) and emotional abuse (the 'empowerment' of HM's who are OBVIOUSLY going to use that power to bully Hazel) actually upset me tonight.

I don't mean I found it 'annoying' or 'unfair'. I mean I actually found upsetting.

Although the bullying is CHANNELED through Gina, it's still the producers who are orchestrating it.

Please sign this thread or leave your comment if you were angered or upset by the events that were broadcast tonight.

:joker: so many crazies

[Cocidius]

^The only word that lost its true meaning was the word "racism", when Gina used it in week 1.
In fact, looking back I realise that we got a glimpse of Gina's bullying nature right there.

LmfaoXD case and point. I swear people can't have conflict with someone these days without that word being brought up. Hell even Gina said she thought she(herself) was being bullied. That word continues to lose value.

[the_answers]

They do get task. BB just doesn't show them in the HL because they're boring. If you watched any of the live feeds you'll know why they choose certain people to show. Because they need a story of the week. They only have 40 or so minutes to clip together.If they put all the stuff about everyone else they would have to double the amount of time they get to show it.
Oh come on...

Gina's been given ALL the "live in luxury" special priviliges tasks..

Safehouse,
fake letters from home
Outside phone call
Now queen bee !

Ok she's gonna take 'em.
And admit Gina is the best bet for great telly.

But it's possible others might just be entertaining too if they were given the chance.

Rightly or wrongly producers don't think "Hang on, someone else should have the power for a change."

Unless I'm missing something obvious let's not kid ourselves here !

[Cocidius]

Oh come on...

Gina's been given ALL the "live in luxury" special priviliges tasks..

Safehouse,
fake letters from home
Outside phone call
Now queen bee !

Ok she's gonna take 'em.
And admit Gina is the best bet for great telly.

But it's possible others might just be entertaining too if they were given the chance.

Rightly or wrongly producers don't think "Hang on, someone else should have the power for a change."

Unless I'm missing something obvious let's not kid ourselves here ! I think you just missed the whole point. The fact that they do give them task, but choose not to air them is the point. Had they'd shined in the task given to them it would have been on HL the fact that they are only on LF... Well I think you said it in your post Gina and Dexter make great telle:-) In fact I think most reality shows have people they show and people in the background for the same reason. So I don't think anyone kids themselves into thinking otherwise.

[the_answers]

Go on then.
What mega special privilege tasks have the other housemates had ?

[BCFCMike]

Gina and Charlie were disgusting.

[Cocidius]

Go on then.
What mega special privilege tasks have the other housemates had ?

Lol Sophie just had one last week, the twins had a couple when it first started, Charlie as well, Dexter obviously has had a few, Callum had it when his storyline was going, Hazel had hers in the house..Ect but if your looking for a list I'm sure someone will point you to a official list, but those just fresh in my head. The fact that you don't remember them or watched them should tell why they don't air them in those 40mins, but this is a whole other topic. You can make a thread about.

[the_answers]

I don't mean "Enjoy a big nosh up in the diary room" ones.
Everyone get's those.

I mean the special ones - the ones that Gina seems to always get.

You say "Had they'd shined in the task given to them it would have been on HL".
But it would be impossible not to feature the Queen Bee one in the HL such was the size and they were doing it all day.

Anyway, no point arguing the toss, think I've made my point.

[ozzyshaggah]

gina is a bully
kick the ugly stupid cow out

if they wanted an interesting task hey should have made hazel queen bee

then you would see lady vaGINA in all her pathetic glory

what a missed opportunity

[Cocidius]

I don't mean "Enjoy a big nosh up in the diary room" ones.
Everyone get's those.

I mean the special ones - the ones that Gina seems to always get.

You say "Had they'd shined in the task given to them it would have been on HL".
But it would be impossible not to feature the Queen Bee one in the HL such was the size and they were doing it all day.

Anyway, no point arguing the toss, think I've made my point. So the point you're trying to make is that you're biased against Gina and don't want acknowledge that when people did have task they weren't interesting so they didn't get aired on HL or when they were it was cut short because again their task was a bust. Since Gina's is actually entertaining and gets aired it's biased because they show her so much. Lol then your point was proven. Love that logic;)

[the_answers]

Just stuck up for her in the other thread !

But since you won't tell me what these mega special privilege tasks were that never got aired, I can't really debate them.

So you're right, I can only go off what I see on the HL.

[frenchboy]

Official bull**** thread more like...
If Hazel felt like she was bullied, she would have left the house. But she is still there, isn't she?

[oopsimawesome]

I watch BB with a group of 4 other friends. This time last week we all were endeared towards Gina, buying in to her fish out of water persona but this week all of us have been turned off by her vile, bullying behavior.
I have to say, I'm really disappointed in C5 this year, and that's something I never thought I'd say. C5, the GBP and fellow housemates have been bullying, belittling, singling out and just being plain terrible for WEEKS now to the unflappable Hazel, to the point where I wonder what they will even talk about when she's out of the house.
I've always defended BB as the one reality show that's actually real but it's seemingly devolving in to a puppet show for the producers and not allowing it to be what it once was, which is a social experiment rather than a rigged/contrived "game".
I still find the UK version far superior to my countries version as I feel you get to actually know or care about the housemates in the UK version as they aren't allowed to talk about the game and spend the entire series plotting and backstabbing but I think the UK version would do well in taking a page out of the US version in the sense that they don't tamper with the formula they use to create the show. With the US version you know whats what and whats going to go down as they do not deviate from what they tell you is going to happen, whereas this Secrets and Lies rubbish is literally flying by the seat of their pants and seemingly making up the game as it progresses and altering rules as they see fit to seek out their own agenda to single out and highlight who C5 producers want to win.

[BigBuk]

Hazel WAS bullied this evening...no question with the cowards sophie and charlie following that munter Gina's orders like sheep

Considering Charlie & Sophie had to follow orders from Gina like the rest of the HM I cant see how you can call them sheep. It wasn't bullying, its a task, some people in this world want to be offended.

[Cocidius]

Just stuck up for her in the other thread !

But since you won't tell me what these mega special privilege tasks were that never got aired, I can't really debate them.

So you're right, I can only go off what I see on the HL.

I'll rewatch some of the earlier LF's and message you.

I do like the fact that when people thought she lost her feisty side they called her boring and now that it's back she's a vile bitch.hahaha well at least people are talking about her again:-) Her=Gina

[armand.kay]

You know there is people actually getting bullied in the word throwing the word around willy billy makes it seem less serious.

[Johnnyuk123]

The irony here is that if Gina had picked Dexter instead of Hazel all those screaming bullying would simply be laughing at Dexter getting zapped.

[Cherie]

Well said Toy Soldier!:thumbs:
Also all the people saying she signed up for it,and she knew in advance of the shock-suits,no one signs up to be bullied,and giving the power to shock a HM to someone who is a delusional vindictive bitch is probably not part of the deal either!?!?!:nono:

Everytime the shock button was pressed each and every HM other than Gina and Charlie got a shock, Sam and Dexter shocked themselves when they pressed the buzzer, the only HM that complained was Hazel, Hazel knows where the DR room is if she feels she is being picked on, Gina and Hazel have taken the opportunity to pick on each other from very early on, I won't be signing any petition.

[Cherie]

The irony here is that if Gina had picked Dexter instead of Hazel all those screaming bullying would simply be laughing at Dexter getting zapped.

Yes I agree and the even bigger irony is that they ALL got zapped each time not just Hazel. I think people are getting confused because they picked Hazel to do some extra work, though I didn't really see that enforced from what I could see they all as a team did the extra work.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Gina is a sweetheart.

[exoticrosebud]

dont tell me that if the boot had been on the other foot.....hazel would have done exactly the same........and they are both big enough and ugly enough to stand up for themselves...

[MrWong]

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[joeysteele]

Gina and Charlie were disgusting.

That is a perfect summing up of them both as to this task,definitely.

I have watched it again this morning with someone who hasn't been watching BB much at all this series and who has no favourite whatsoever.
She thought Gina and Charlie,(also Sophie too), were likely 3 of the really nastiest people in there and she said she would have thrown something at Gina and Charlie, most likely the buzzer and/or covered them in the honey they were mucking on with.