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jet
10-08-2013, 12:36 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?

MatthewS
10-08-2013, 12:40 AM
Can't say I disagree with your analysis really...

She was so tame with Daley, and she kept at it with Hazel. Even when Hazel said her peace the first time and basically summed it up, Emma kept going and going. Fair play to Hazel though, she basically just repeated herself again and again and didn't get annoyed.

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 12:41 AM
I actually thought it went pretty well actually, though maybe that was down to Hazel more than Emma lol but I was happy with her whole eviction process all in all

Marsh.
10-08-2013, 12:44 AM
Emma seemed surprised when she spoke on BOTS that Hazel handled it as well as she did.

But fair play to Emma, ever since her dressing down from Regina :joker: she's made more of an effort to be impartial and balanced.

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 12:45 AM
Emma seemed surprised when she spoke on BOTS that Hazel handled it as well as she did.

But fair play to Emma, ever since her dressing down from Regina :joker: she's made more of an effort to be impartial and balanced.

I missed that!! ahh, you don't have a link by any chance, do you?

Im_Juz_ChiLLin
10-08-2013, 12:47 AM
Emma's interview was crap, she only talked about Daley....

Scream
10-08-2013, 12:48 AM
She's so swayed by the public. If you want to be harsh, be harsh. Stop blaming the public. If you want to be tame, be tame and don't change from person to person. She's really annoying.

the_answers
10-08-2013, 12:50 AM
Bloody hell, that's very observant ! :)

MatthewS
10-08-2013, 12:50 AM
Emma's interview was crap, she only talked about Daley....

Yeah I noticed this as well. Did she even ask Hazel who she wanted to win? It seemed like 75% of the interview was about Daley, 25% about Gina, and that was essentially it. Not one of Emmas best imo.

jet
10-08-2013, 12:50 AM
I actually thought it went pretty well actually, though maybe that was down to Hazel more than Emma lol but I was happy with her whole eviction process all in all

Yes, Hazel handled it brilliantly...despite Emma's attempts to demoralize her!

the_answers
10-08-2013, 12:52 AM
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?
Yeah there was a "BUZZ OFF HAZEL !" one too.

GiRTh
10-08-2013, 12:55 AM
Hazel handled Emma superbly even skilfully catching Emma out a coupe of times. I was surprised Emma persisted TBH I dont think its her job to tell HM's her opinions of them.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 12:56 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?

The only time Emma got harsh was when Hazel tried to pull the wool over her eyes when she said 'Daley said he was single'

Well yes he did, but she also knows that he said he had a girlfriend the first 2 weeks.

the_answers
10-08-2013, 12:56 AM
If you want to be harsh, be harsh.
Thanks, we will ! :wink:

Stop blaming the public.
I blame the producers, the baying mob and Willis herself !

Kizzy
10-08-2013, 12:59 AM
And in mine too! totally unwarranted abuse, hauling her over the coals! where was the conversation about dan?.....or Charlie?....

It was more like a trial than an interview... disgusting!

arney
10-08-2013, 01:00 AM
Emma was pathetic.

the_answers
10-08-2013, 01:01 AM
The only time Emma got harsh was when Hazel tried to pull the wool over her eyes when she said 'Daley said he was single'

Well yes he did, but she also knows that he said he had a girlfriend the first 2 weeks.
Does it even matter ?

They're both grown adults with freedom of choice.

Bottom line they can do whatever they like.
Without BB sticking their nose in and having to justify all their actions like a couple of naughty kids.

Speedster
10-08-2013, 01:02 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?


To be honest, I thought she wasn't too bad with her, I expected a lot worse and I thought they'd leave the eye open so that Hazel could hear all the abuse she was still getting even -after- she was evicted. If she did go hard on her, it's like Hazel said herself "I expected most of the blame cos I'm a girl"; I've been saying the show was biased in favour of men for years-I used to get banned for weeks at a time for having arguments with people when it was on Channel 4 over how sexist I thought the show and people watching the show were.

As far as standing near those banners, she does it all the time. Drives Me nuts.

Marsh.
10-08-2013, 01:04 AM
I missed that!! ahh, you don't have a link by any chance, do you?

UjUEOGq6-Nw

Go to around 30 minute mark for the call ins. :laugh:

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:06 AM
And in mine too! totally unwarranted abuse, hauling her over the coals! where was the conversation about dan?.....or Charlie?....

It was more like a trial than an interview... disgusting!

Nevermind, Hazel handled it with grace so it looked flawless :idc:

jet
10-08-2013, 01:07 AM
The only time Emma got harsh was when Hazel tried to pull the wool over her eyes when she said 'Daley said he was single'

Well yes he did, but she also knows that he said he had a girlfriend the first 2 weeks.

Hazel explained in the interview why Daley said he told her that. Didn't you hear it?
I wonder why your fav Gina went after Hazel as a '*****', yet she completely ignores that Dexter tried his luck with the girls yet has a girlfriend? Hmmm?

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:08 AM
Does it even matter ?

They're both grown adults with freedom of choice.

Bottom line they can do whatever they like.
Without BB sticking their nose in and having to justify all their actions like a couple of naughty kids.

Of course but she tried to use it as a convenient excuse, a get out clause.

Emma didn't let that happen and pointed out that Hazel knew all along about the girlfriend.

the_answers
10-08-2013, 01:10 AM
Well they got their ounce of flesh tonight so game over.

I just pity the poor sod who's next in line.

Ace
10-08-2013, 01:12 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?


Emma was scare out of her wits in the Daley interview. Remember. if he doesn't like what a woman is say or doing he'll nut them.

It was really irritating that in the interview there was a picture of Gina's ugly mug in the background.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:12 AM
Hazel explained in the interview why Daley said he told her that. Didn't you hear it?
I wonder why your fav Gina went after Hazel as a '*****', yet she completely ignores that Dexter tried his luck with the girls yet has a girlfriend? Hmmm?

She eventually admitted during the interview that she knew he had one.

Didn't you hear? :D

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:15 AM
UjUEOGq6-Nw

Go to around 30 minute mark for the call ins. :laugh:

Thank you! aww she sounded lovely lol

jet
10-08-2013, 01:27 AM
She eventually admitted during the interview that she knew he had one.

Didn't you hear? :D

Yes, but as I said Daley lied to her about the status of that relationship.

So funny that you totally ignored the question I asked:

I wonder why your fav Gina went after Hazel as a '*****', yet she completely ignores that Dexter tried his luck with the girls yet has a girlfriend? Hmmm?

Your silence says it all...:D

Mystic Mock
10-08-2013, 01:32 AM
I know I shouldn't generalize but it seems that a lot of the women viewers that watch BB actually treat women as second class, I mean a classic example is that woman that Emma spoke to in the crowd last night and the woman said that she wants Hazel to go because of "how she treated Daley".

Daley was no victim but maybe Emma sees like some of the other women that watch the show.

Thankfully most women do seem to see sense on the issue.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:34 AM
Yes, but as I said Daley lied to her about the status of that relationship.

So funny that you totally ignored the question I asked:



Your silence says it all...:D

So what? She still knew the truth.

I ignored your question because it was irrelevant to the topic.

I'll answer now since it seems important to you.

Nobody believes that Dexter has a girlfriend. Maybe Gina thinks the same?

Scream
10-08-2013, 01:35 AM
So what? She still knew the truth.

I ignored your question because it was irrelevant to the topic.

I'll answer now since it seems important to you.

Nobody believes that Dexter has a girlfriend. Maybe Gina thinks the same?

So Dexter told people he didn't have a girlfriend and that's fine.

Daley tells Hazel he doesn't have a girlfriend and she's a homewrecker. :conf:

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:36 AM
So Dexter told people he didn't have a girlfriend and that's fine.

Daley tells Hazel he doesn't have a girlfriend and she's a homewrecker. :conf:

whatever suits the agenda Scream, dontcha know

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:37 AM
So Dexter told people he didn't have a girlfriend and that's fine.

Daley tells Hazel he doesn't have a girlfriend and she's a homewrecker. :conf:

:conf:

No? He said he does but I don't think anyone believes him.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:38 AM
whatever suits the agenda Scream, dontcha know

What agenda's that?

Mystic Mock
10-08-2013, 01:40 AM
Tbh I think Hazel's hate was OTT, I mean she wasn't the nicest girl this series but I think that what she gets attacked for is harsh yet Charlie, Daley, and tbf I've got to point him out as it looks biased otherwise, but Dexter all have done similar things as Hazel and they have never been attacked for it like Hazel has.

jet
10-08-2013, 01:41 AM
So what? She still knew the truth.

I ignored your question because it was irrelevant to the topic.

I'll answer now since it seems important to you.

Nobody believes that Dexter has a girlfriend. Maybe Gina thinks the same?

Oh that's a very convenient non - answer. :joker:

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:44 AM
Oh that's a very convenient non - answer. :joker:

It's been said often enough.

It's not like it's a minority opinion. So definitely plausible for Gina to think it too.

jet
10-08-2013, 01:46 AM
It's been said often enough.

It's not like it's a minority opinion. So definitely plausible for Gina to think it too.

Why on earth would Gina not believe him? :shocked: And didn't she say she hates liars?

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:49 AM
What agenda's that?

The "hate the pretty girl with the big tits who's obviously after your man" agenda ;)

Mystic Mock
10-08-2013, 01:50 AM
Why on earth would Gina not believe him? :shocked: And didn't she say she hates liars?

Tbf to all the Housemates here, they've all probably contradicted themselves and been hypocritical at some point as they have to use any excuse to try and remove their competitors on a gameshow, plus it's Human nature when it's someone you don't like doing something questionable you attack them for it in some form, but when it's a friend doing the same thing most people normally let it go.

I'm not saying it's right but it's how most people work.

Jords
10-08-2013, 01:52 AM
I thought the eviction and interview was great, didnt catch BOTS though.

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:54 AM
I thought the eviction and interview was great, didnt catch BOTS though.

Twas good Jords but different to the norm, they pretty much just interviewed Hazel one on one for the whole thing, the panel never even got to ask her a question

halfacrown
10-08-2013, 01:54 AM
Major point being glossed over here: Emma Willis on behalf of BB was making it clear that everyone knew that Daley had a girlfriend. Even Hazel said she knew it but then chose to forget it when Daley turned around and said he wasn't sure. Daley was just like any other sleazy player at a conference, Christmas party or club, who slips his wedding ring into his back pocket. Hazel bought into the obvious deception and got pissed-off when they all lined up to ask them what the **** they were playing at.

Hazel wasn't listening to anyone and she wasn't listening to Emma or answering her either!
Hazel isn't daft, she ignored all the signs that Daley was a wrong 'un because she was horny and wanted a romance/showmance. She was off pursuing her dream, like a rat up a drainpipe.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:55 AM
The "hate the pretty girl with the big tits who's obviously after your man" agenda ;)

Who do you think is doing that?

I have noticed the 'bring someone else into the debate to deflect from Hazel's actions' agenda though. :D

MatthewS
10-08-2013, 01:56 AM
Yup. She ignored it and did a bit of flirting. Off with her head lol

jet
10-08-2013, 01:57 AM
Tbf to all the Housemates here, they've all probably contradicted themselves and been hypocritical at some point as they have to use any excuse to try and remove their competitors on a gameshow, plus it's Human nature when it's someone you don't like doing something questionable you attack them for it in some form, but when it's a friend doing the same thing most people normally let it go.

I'm not saying it's right but it's how most people work.

I understand that, but Gina went after Hazel for it with a vengeance. It wasn't just normal disapproval. If she feels that strongly about something, she should apply it fairly to others as well.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 01:58 AM
Why on earth would Gina not believe him? :shocked: And didn't she say she hates liars?

Maybe she's humouring him.

Niamh.
10-08-2013, 01:59 AM
Who do you think is doing that?

I have noticed the 'bring someone else into the debate to deflect from Hazel's actions' agenda though. :D

I think mine and your agendas need to have a face off, Hazel and Gina style tbqh :pipe:

Mystic Mock
10-08-2013, 02:02 AM
I understand that, but Gina went after Hazel for it with a vengeance. It wasn't just normal disapproval. If she feels that strongly about something, she should apply it fairly to others as well.

As a Gina fan I agree with you, but it just isn't the case sadly.

halfacrown
10-08-2013, 02:02 AM
Yup. She ignored it and did a bit of flirting. Off with her head lol

A bit of flirting with a lovely man who looked at one point as though he was thinking about pulling off her head himself with both hands.

jet
10-08-2013, 02:02 AM
Who do you think is doing that?

I have noticed the 'bring someone else into the debate to deflect from Hazel's actions' agenda though. :D

I've noticed 'Don't mention anyone else's flirting because only a woman with big tits can't get away with it'.

Speedster
10-08-2013, 02:05 AM
I've noticed 'Don't mention anyone else's flirting because only a woman with big tits can't get away with it'.

Except she didn't get away with it; Dexter seems to be though.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 02:07 AM
I've noticed 'Don't mention anyone else's flirting because only a woman with big tits can't get away with it'.

I've replied to your off topic posts. What more do you want?

camertone
10-08-2013, 02:18 AM
Woman is usually very vicious with other women. or Emma was just so afraid of Daley that he would hit her if she made him angry.

MatthewS
10-08-2013, 02:34 AM
A bit of flirting with a lovely man who looked at one point as though he was thinking about pulling off her head himself with both hands.

hahaha i think its safe to say she didn't see that one coming lol

cheapbbfan
10-08-2013, 02:49 AM
That was an awful interview. WTF did the show wait so long to evict her? For such a big character, they waited till very close to the end of the show and she didn't seem to get much interview time. They then had Emma spend most of it talking about Daley and was forced to rush and cut her off bc it was cutting too close to the end. They didn't even get a chance to go more in depth with her feud with Gina, and up/down relationship with Charlie. Worst exit interview by far

Calderyon
10-08-2013, 04:08 AM
Itīs the genital rule. If you donīt have willie, youīll be treated like a villain.

Issac
10-08-2013, 05:22 AM
You peeps are going to hard on Emma, she did an okay job with chavs screaming boos.

G1dds
10-08-2013, 06:27 AM
You peeps are going to hard on Emma, she did an okay job with chavs screaming boos.

I disagree. Emma was hellbent on getting Hazel to admit she was a homewrecker

I felt Emma was too emotionally tied to this, acting like Hazel had been trying it on with her husband lol

It was ridiculous..... If Emma wanted to make the whole interview about Daly, surely it should have been about how he attacked her in the safe house. If not, why not discuss all the other things she had got up to in the house - the bloody Daley thing was weeeks ago :/

crocs
10-08-2013, 06:44 AM
Of course you have to have different kind of interviewing technique depending whether you have someone who's just trying to keep the emotions controlled by swallowing and by trying to clear one's throat or whether there's a tough girl who's not willing to break the wall a bit and not willing to let anyone in. Plus the other thing was so close to when it had happened and Hazel had time to get over the shock of what happened and prepare what she was going to say and that really showed. I'm quite sick of hearing these accusations of being biased all the time. If Emma hadn't talked about the Daley thing, she would have bee accused of something else. She just can't win with you people and I'm just sorry that she feels she has to cover her personality because of the viewing audience and that is what happened in yesterday's eviction. She was careful not to show any kind of emotion during the program so that people wouldn't take offence and I'm sad to not see her bubbly personality. There was a glimpse of her real personality in her last presentation just before the show was over.

joeysteele
10-08-2013, 07:06 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?

She was slower to go over to her as well, I found the interview terrible, all she talked about was the Daley incident, she left no time at all for any other conversation whatsoever.

Emma has really led and encouraged the bad attitude to Hazel on bbbots and only recently tried to defuse it a little.
Emma has gone right down in my estimation after last night too but she has over the weeks anyway due to the anti Hazel bbbots attitude when she was on for many weeks now.

I agree with you Jet and I tell you this, if any man had her by the throat, or said he was going to finish her or nut her, she would have had him arrested and wanted him in court.

No Emma has ahown massive bias in this affair and it is clear she has always blamed Hazel because she made a move on a guy 'supposedly' in a relationship and even that was the thing in the main she concentrated on in the interview.

Thank goodeness for the better treatment of Hazel by Rylan and AJ on bbbots where they talked across the board on many issues.

Emma only had a short time to interview and a good presenter would have got in more than just one incident that happened.
Emma was shocking in that interview and it leaves me questioning again whether she should have been given the main presenting job.
Awful and I got really annoyed.
I understand completely why you are so angry too Jet.

joeysteele
10-08-2013, 07:08 AM
I disagree. Emma was hellbent on getting Hazel to admit she was a homewrecker

I felt Emma was too emotionally tied to this, acting like Hazel had been trying it on with her husband lol
It was ridiculous..... If Emma wanted to make the whole interview about Daly, surely it should have been about how he attacked her in the safe house. If not, why not discuss all the other things she had got up to in the house - the bloody Daley thing was weeeks ago :/

Also, absolutely right, well said.Your first point extremely accurate too.
That is not the mark of a good or competent presenter of such an important main show.

jet
10-08-2013, 09:31 AM
Of course you have to have different kind of interviewing technique depending whether you have someone who's just trying to keep the emotions controlled by swallowing and by trying to clear one's throat or whether there's a tough girl who's not willing to break the wall a bit and not willing to let anyone in. Plus the other thing was so close to when it had happened and Hazel had time to get over the shock of what happened and prepare what she was going to say and that really showed. I'm quite sick of hearing these accusations of being biased all the time. If Emma hadn't talked about the Daley thing, she would have bee accused of something else. She just can't win with you people and I'm just sorry that she feels she has to cover her personality because of the viewing audience and that is what happened in yesterday's eviction. She was careful not to show any kind of emotion during the program so that people wouldn't take offence and I'm sad to not see her bubbly personality. There was a glimpse of her real personality in her last presentation just before the show was over.

Of course Daley had to come up, but Emma went on and on about it trying to get Hazel to break. As if that was going to happen! There were plenty of other storylines around Hazel but Emma barely mentioned them.
I don't agree that she didn't show any emotion. As another poster put it so well, she behaved as though Hazel had been flirting with HER husband.
Also, she barely mentioned Daley's abusive behaviour towards her, but concentrated on Hazel's flirting.
She conveniently forgot that BB paired Hazel and Daley together for the public to vote a pair to go into the safe house - and this after Daley's girlfriend was on the show and so upset. They actively encouraged the flirting to continue 'for entertainment' with disastrous consequences. Did Emma ever say 'That's not on'? No, she did not. Hazel was wrong to flirt with Daley, but the 'she asked for it' mentality is just WRONG and Emma should be ashamed that she didn't make that clear.
Daley's abuse and lies were glossed over, and Hazel was the scarlet woman 'the homewrecker'. Emma is just another BB puppet - how disappointing.
At least Rylan and AJ showed Hazel that the blame wasn't all hers.

joeysteele
10-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Why do people blame Emma? She's clearly told what topics to cover by prods. Anyway I think it was fair

No, I would think she gets certain freedoms as to what she concentrates on in the interviews,planned beforehand as to whoever comes out.
If not, they may as well do interviews by BB instead of the presenter.

Emma is often too biased, she was on bbbots over the last 2 series,it was hoped she would lose that as a main presenter, it is clear she hasn't and was happy to make her point as to Hazel too.

jet
10-08-2013, 09:44 AM
No, I would think she gets certain freedoms as to what she concentrates on in the interviews,planned beforehand as to whoever comes out.
If not, they may as well do interviews by BB instead of the presenter.

Emma is often too biased, she was on bbbots over the last 2 series,it was hoped she would lose that as a main presenter, it is clear she hasn't and was happy to make her point as to Hazel too.

I agree Joey. Emma lets her own feelings and preferences get in the way of being the impartial presenter she should be. People are spending their money voting on BB therefore the presenter shouldn't be allowed to sway public opinion. She is there to present the show, not to give her own fans ideas about who she'd like them to vote for. It's disgraceful.

Alice in Ozland
10-08-2013, 09:46 AM
The interview was actually quite funny, because Hazel mentioned the "I like you" and "He told me he wasn't in a relationship" thing repeatedly. And she had a right to, because Emma wouldn't let go of it, and Hazel was just repeating her side of the story over and over again. It's like they were interrogating her and wanted her to slip a detail or something.

And in the end, did they ask her how she felt when she was pinned down by her neck? No, because nobody wants to hear what Hazel thinks. Whenever she tries to defend herself, people immediately view it as her being a bitch.

crocs
10-08-2013, 10:02 AM
I don't agree that she didn't show any emotion. As another poster put it so well, she behaved as though Hazel had been flirting with HER husband.
She conveniently forgot that BB paired Hazel and Daley together for the public to vote a pair to go into the safe house - and this after Daley's girlfriend was on the show and so upset. They actively encouraged the flirting to continue 'for entertainment' with disastrous consequences. Did Emma ever say 'That's not on'? No, she did not. Hazel was wrong to flirt with Daley, but the 'she asked for it' mentality is just WRONG and Emma should be ashamed that she didn't make that clear.

By not showing any emotion I actually meant Emma before the eviction, not the interview although she was cautious in the interview as well. As an example of something before the eviction, usually she reacts to crowd reaction when she is telling about on how to vote and when she mentions a housemates name and the phonenumber, she reacts to crowd boos or cheers, this time she made sure she didn't. And yes, I believe Emma dislikes Hazel a lot but I think she is also able leave that aside as well. I don't see her being that biased.

In the interview she has to ask something and I think anyone would have stayed away from going into spesifics about how Daley behaved. They (the production as a whole) will not take any chances with that but they coulnd't pass the flirting by.

I liked the fact that Hazel reminded the crowd that they were the ones that put them in the house and that was just wrong from the audience. Hazel and Daley are responsible for their actions but the voting viewers are responsible for putting Hazel and Daley in the house. And Emma has said in the BOTS that she feels they should not have been put in the house.

If being biased is the fact that we as viewers know something of Emma's personality and morals by her reacting to things that go on in the house, then yes, she is biased. But as a presenter, she has to say something, she has to talk about things that go on in the house. But in my eyes Emma is doing a good job. Of course, at times interviews could be better, but at times it's the fault of the interviewee, not the interviewer.

And the "asking for it" thing, I don't understand where that comes from. Has she said she was asking for it? If she says, "it takes two to tango" that doesn't mean that she was asking for it. Funnily, Hazel usead the exact same expression.

Anyhow, I'm just amazed at how differently we as an audience see the same events but it's also fascinating - although at times annoying. :D

(P.S. Even if I quoted one person's posting, this is a general post, not directed to just one person and not meant as anything against one person's view. All I want is to understand how people see this so differently.)

MrWong
10-08-2013, 10:27 AM
The interview was actually quite funny, because Hazel mentioned the "I like you" and "He told me he wasn't in a relationship" thing repeatedly. And she had a right to, because Emma wouldn't let go of it, and Hazel was just repeating her side of the story over and over again. It's like they were interrogating her and wanted her to slip a detail or something.

And in the end, did they ask her how she felt when she was pinned down by her neck? No, because nobody wants to hear what Hazel thinks. Whenever she tries to defend herself, people immediately view it as her being a bitch.

Emma wouldn't let go of it because Hazel was lying.

She did know that Daley had a GF and no amount of 'but he said he was single' changes that.

crocs
10-08-2013, 10:32 AM
Emma wouldn't let Hazel go of it because Hazel was lying.

She did know that Daley had a GF and no amount of 'but he said he was single' changes that.

This is true and there's footage to prove it, I just don't remember when it happened. It was before the safe house.

And Emma said something along the lines "she didn't let that smile crack one single time". Hazel was working hard on her image last night.

Bojangles
10-08-2013, 10:45 AM
This is true and there's footage to prove it, I just don't remember when it happened. It was before the safe house.

And Emma said something along the lines "she didn't let that smile crack one single time". Hazel was working hard on her image last night.

Yes he did say he had a girlfriend in an on off relationship,but he didn't mention his wife and child,so what does that make his on off girlfriend me thinks a home wrecker. Not Hazel.Emma showing so much empathy for the supposed girlfriend when she interviewed her crying etc.
Why didn't Emma bring up the Rat's other bits on the side to Hazel.
No Emma wanted to crack Hazel(No pun intended)Emma failed big time.Terry Christian said last night "The wrong housemate has gone,Hazel should have won."
Hazel should have won,with all the bullying and hatred she underwent from ugly Gina.

MrWong
10-08-2013, 10:50 AM
Yes he did say he had a girlfriend in an on off relationship,but he didn't mention his wife and child,so what does that make his on off girlfriend me thinks a home wrecker. Not Hazel.Emma showing so much empathy for the supposed girlfriend when she interviewed her crying etc.
Why didn't Emma bring up the Rat's other bits on the side to Hazel.
No Emma wanted to crack Hazel(No pun intended)Emma failed big time.Terry Christian said last night "The wrong housemate has gone,Hazel should have won."
Hazel should have won,with all the bullying and hatred she underwent from ugly Gina.

What wife? He was in a relationship, he cheated on her to be with Katie.

Why would he mention his 'ex ex' to Hazel? Katie being a homewrecker has no baring on Hazel's actions.

There was no bullying.

jet
10-08-2013, 11:05 AM
Emma wouldn't let go of it because Hazel was lying.

She did know that Daley had a GF and no amount of 'but he said he was single' changes that.

Daley had already cheated on his wife and child and lied about the status of his relationship with his G/F to Hazel. (The G/F who apparently is a homewrecker if what people are saying is true). He's a cheat and a liar. Hazels blame in this is much less. Yet she's taking most of the flak, as the woman always does - even when she has been abused.

jet
10-08-2013, 11:27 AM
What wife? He was in a relationship, he cheated on her to be with Katie.

Why would he mention his 'ex ex' to Hazel? Katie being a homewrecker has no baring on Hazel's actions.

There was no bullying.

I guess it depends on who is on the receiving end for some people.

Bojangles
10-08-2013, 11:32 AM
Spot on Jet.

Miranda123
10-08-2013, 11:37 AM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?

I Love Emma Willis, she says it how it is, I thought she was a little bit soft on Hazel but she still didnt let her get away with her stupid comments about 'cause he wrote on my hand, that meant he didnt have a g/f' what a stupid defence lol

Northern Monkey
10-08-2013, 11:37 AM
It's "the bias inside"(Emma)

CaudleHalbard
10-08-2013, 11:40 AM
I don't think Emma was very effective with Hazel. She didn't ask the right questions. Banging on about Daley's relationship status was a side-issue.

She should have pressed questions about why Hazel willingly went back to the safe house to spend the night with Daley and willingly jumped into his bed the following morning, after claiming to BB that she was "little bit scared" - later embellished to "terrified" (to Dan).

I'm hoping this will get picked up on BOTP tonight.

Alice in Ozland
10-08-2013, 11:52 AM
I Love Emma Willis, she says it how it is, I thought she was a little bit soft on Hazel but she still didnt let her get away with her stupid comments about 'cause he wrote on my hand, that meant he didnt have a g/f' what a stupid defence lol

She sounded as if she personally had a grudge on Hazel and wouldn't take the hint to freaking move on to the next question. The interview was basically nothing else but Daley Daley Daley.

Bojangles
10-08-2013, 11:54 AM
It's "the bias inside"(Emma)

Very True.

Verbal
10-08-2013, 12:08 PM
I had much the same problem as the title suggesets

jet
10-08-2013, 12:12 PM
I don't think Emma was very effective with Hazel. She didn't ask the right questions. Banging on about Daley's relationship status was a side-issue.

She should have pressed questions about why Hazel willingly went back to the safe house to spend the night with Daley and willingly jumped into his bed the following morning, after claiming to BB that she was "little bit scared" - later embellished to "terrified" (to Dan).

I'm hoping this will get picked up on BOTP tonight.

Don't forget that Hazel didn't go to the DR to complain about Daley. BB called her in and even then Hazel told them Daley was just drunk and it got a bit out of hand. And the big question is this - BB seen Daley grab Hazel around the throat and tell her he would 'nut her' - they spoke to him about it and then let him return to the safe house for the night where the girl he just threatened was still lying in bed. What signal did that give to Hazel?
I honestly think she didn't want to make a song and dance about it and didn't want to get Daley into trouble.

Hazel doesn't like to admit that she is cowed by anyone. She took the public humiliating her for a week and she took Gina's treatment on the chin and fought back. The only time we have seen her vulnerable is when Dan took her in his arms and she admitted to being really scared.

CaudleHalbard
10-08-2013, 12:19 PM
The only thing Hazel was terrified about was the possibility of being ejected from the house.

Her palpable relief when she was told she would only get a formal warning was very noticeable!

MrWong
10-08-2013, 12:30 PM
Daley had already cheated on his wife and child and lied about the status of his relationship with his G/F to Hazel. (The G/F who apparently is a homewrecker if what people are saying is true). He's a cheat and a liar. Hazels blame in this is much less. Yet she's taking most of the flak, as the woman always does - even when she has been abused.

So what though? It's irrelevant to Hazel lying.

How can Daley take any flak? He's left the house.

He's a massive ****. Though why this has to be stated every time someone posts about Hazel I don't know.

jet
10-08-2013, 12:45 PM
The only thing Hazel was terrified about was the possibility of being ejected from the house.

Her palpable relief when she was told she would only get a formal warning was very noticeable!


Well of course she would be relieved at not being ejected. Wouldn't anyone?

I really don't see the degree to which Hazel appeared scared is even relevant. Or for that matter, how willing she appeared to be to stay in the safe house. Why do some people think that if a man abuses a woman she has to turn into a quivering wreck and cry her eyes out and if she doesn't but remains strong then she is somehow complicit in the abuse?
(Not saying you think like this Caudle, just in general).

The fact remains that BB felt Daley was abusive and removed him. Hazel didn't go to BB and complain. Hazel wasn't asked for her opinion on whether he should remain or not. Hazel didn't throw him out. BB did.

CaudleHalbard
10-08-2013, 12:56 PM
Well of course she would be relieved at not being ejected. Wouldn't anyone?



No.

If she felt she had done nothing wrong, she would be outraged at even a formal warning. Not relieved.

Hazel knows she is the instigator of all that happened. Her IQ is about double that of Daley's. He is a thicko lump and just behaves in an animalistic way.... that is partly the attraction for Hazel.

She may have got a little bit scared in the safe house but she was hugely sexually aroused by it all, as well. That is the 'elephant in the room' that the BB presenters won't go into.

jet
10-08-2013, 01:13 PM
No.

If she felt she had done nothing wrong, she would be outraged at even a formal warning. Not relieved.

Hazel knows she is the instigator of all that happened. Her IQ is about double that of Daley's. He is a thicko lump and just behaves in an animalistic way.... that is partly the attraction for Hazel.

She may have got a little bit scared in the safe house but she was hugely sexually aroused by it all, as well. That is the 'elephant in the room' that the BB presenters won't go into.

She pulled down Daley's shorts, which he complained about, so she was worried about the repercussions of that. However it was obviously done in a playful manner and BB knows the difference between skittish and abusive behaviour.

As for the rest of your post - I think you are skating on very thin ice there.

newspresenter
10-08-2013, 01:24 PM
WTF? Emma has really gone down in my estimation tonight. When she interviewed Daley she was all soft little sympathetic voice but she went after Hazel like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let it go. Emma's bias this series is sickening.
I noticed too that she stood right in front of the crowd waving the 'TEAM GINA' banner to speak, then later right in front of the banners with GET HAZEL OUT and EVIL EYE HAZEL. Anyone else notice that?

The problem we have here is that, Gina is about as vindictive and ignorant as there has been in all the fourteen BB's so far.

So, how on earth has she managed to be so rude and get away with it?
Could be cos she's black and therefore Emma is making sure she doesn't become one of those 'racists'.
Could be because Gina chose to ridicule a gorgeous woman (Hazel) out of jealousy, the public loved her because most of those who watch BB are jealous, incredibly immature and quite frankly, thick.

That being the case, Emma has to go with the masses sometimes even if they have retarded opinions.

Its sad, but its part of her job. I would wager with no hesitation that secretly, Emma probably cannot stand Gina.

jet
10-08-2013, 01:46 PM
The problem we have here is that, Gina is about as vindictive and ignorant as there has been in all the fourteen BB's so far.

So, how on earth has she managed to be so rude and get away with it?
Could be cos she's black and therefore Emma is making sure she doesn't become one of those 'racists'.
Could be because Gina chose to ridicule a gorgeous woman (Hazel) out of jealousy, the public loved her because most of those who watch BB are jealous, incredibly immature and quite frankly, thick.

That being the case, Emma has to go with the masses sometimes even if they have retarded opinions.

Its sad, but its part of her job. I would wager with no hesitation that secretly, Emma probably cannot stand Gina.

I think your post is spot on - except I really think Emma had a personal vendetta against Hazel.

lippyzippy
10-08-2013, 01:49 PM
the poster is completely and utterly wrong. emma blew this interview totally. didn't even mention the main incident. what a joke

jet
10-08-2013, 02:04 PM
the poster is completely and utterly wrong. emma blew this interview totally. didn't even mention the main incident. what a joke

No poster should be told they are completely and utterly wrong because people are entitled to their opinions. It's people who can't debate with intelligence and civility who are perhaps wrong?

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
10-08-2013, 02:07 PM
Well Daley showed remorse, Hazel showed none and didn't accept any of the blame.

She could care less. Girl like her where everyone tells her "she's stunning" that's all they care about getting by on. If you like good, if you don't, fine, someone else will worship me tomorrow.

jet
10-08-2013, 02:21 PM
Well Daley showed remorse, Hazel showed none and didn't accept any of the blame.

She could care less. Girl like her where everyone tells her "she's stunning" that's all they care about getting by on. If you like good, if you don't, fine, someone else will worship me tomorrow.

He showed remorse towards his G/F, as he should. He showed no remorse for abusing Hazel. And if you listen to the interview again, Hazel admitted her part in it.

And there's a lot more to Hazel than her looks. Her greatest assets aren't her face and body, it's her guts and intelligence.

CaudleHalbard
10-08-2013, 02:23 PM
Daley does not consider that, in any way shape or form, he abused Hazel.

If that is the case, an apology to her would be bizarre.

He is very angry about what he perceives as her lies.

jet
10-08-2013, 02:26 PM
Daley does not consider that, in any way shape or form, he abused Hazel.

If that is the case, an apology to her would be bizarre.

He is very angry about what he perceives as her lies.

Really? Then why does he think he got slung out by BB?
What did he say?

Scream
10-08-2013, 02:27 PM
Daley got hard several times in the house already

jet
10-08-2013, 02:33 PM
Daley got hard several times in the house already

Yeah, Hazel had the dick by his dick and he went crying to the tabloids. What a dickhead. :hugesmile:

james130
10-08-2013, 07:16 PM
Thank you! aww she sounded lovely lol

Love this and Regina sounds great!
As much as I do love Emma. I've been really disappointed in the way she handled the whole Hazel/Daley thing and got way too involved.

Queen Davina never let her opinions known mid-season and allow them to prevent her from providing a balanced/non-biased interview. . :idc:

jet
10-08-2013, 07:35 PM
Love this and Regina sounds great!
As much as I do love Emma. I've been really disappointed in the way she handled the whole Hazel/Daley thing and got way too involved.

Queen Davina never let her opinions known mid-season and allow them to prevent her from providing a balanced/non-biased interview. . :idc:

So true. :thumbs: Emma has a long way to go to be as professional as Queen Davina.

Big Dunc
10-08-2013, 07:45 PM
Forget the bias, she is one awful tv presenter with right ***** annoyin voice !

Miranda123
10-08-2013, 08:41 PM
Emma's interview was crap, she only talked about Daley....

Obviously, because thats the only story Hazel had in the house

Now she's gone, we can all get on with enjoying the show!

Miranda123
10-08-2013, 08:42 PM
So true. :thumbs: Emma has a long way to go to be as professional as Queen Davina.

Davina was a soft as tripe, talk about 'toe the party line'

Emma says what she thinks and she is a better presenter for it!

She took Hazel DOWN lol

Miranda123
10-08-2013, 08:44 PM
No.

If she felt she had done nothing wrong, she would be outraged at even a formal warning. Not relieved.

Hazel knows she is the instigator of all that happened. Her IQ is about double that of Daley's. He is a thicko lump and just behaves in an animalistic way.... that is partly the attraction for Hazel.

She may have got a little bit scared in the safe house but she was hugely sexually aroused by it all, as well. That is the 'elephant in the room' that the BB presenters won't go into.

You are spot on!

jet
10-08-2013, 08:59 PM
Obviously, because thats the only story Hazel had in the house

Now she's gone, we can all get on with enjoying the show!

Well you're still posting about her. Can't you get her out of your mind? :hugesmile:

She took Hazel DOWN lol

That's such a minority opinion.

jet
10-08-2013, 09:04 PM
You are spot on!

You really think she was sexually aroused by Daley's abuse? Really? I marvel at people who think a big ape squeezing someones throat and telling them he'd nut them is a turn - on.
And there is no proof whatsoever that Hazel was turned on except in some dirty minds.

Marsh.
10-08-2013, 09:06 PM
Well Daley showed remorse, Hazel showed none and didn't accept any of the blame.

Self pity would describe Daley.

Marsh.
10-08-2013, 09:10 PM
Davina was a soft as tripe, talk about 'toe the party line'

Emma says what she thinks and she is a better presenter for it!

She took Hazel DOWN lol

When she picks and chooses who she says what she thinks to then she's a WORSE presenter for it.

You can't heap your own opinions and judgements on one housemate and stay fair/impartial with another.

If she's going to pick either, she needs to be consistent and stick with it.