Sams the victim of a voting ruse

[sampvt]

It would appear that Dexter and Gina fans are voting for sam to be evicted in their droves. They both know that Sam is the only threat to their crown so they are ganging together to get rid of him. Sams odds are sliding faster than Wayne Rooneys football skills.

[rusticgal]

Any idea what the odds are Sam??

[Beso]

Sam 5/2 to go,coming in fast. He's still favorite to win but I,unfortunately, see him going tonight in the most unfair way. Still, he can hold his head high and be safe in the knowledge he's out the vipers nest.

[Vicky.]

Doubt its tactical tbh..as people have been trying to get a tactical vote going for a while and it didnt affect anything. His odds only started dropping after his kickoff on the highlight show.

The splinters left his arse, and his popularity dropped like a stone. Should have kept up the relatively quiet, nice boy thing rather than showing his bitterness :S

[Kazanne]

Sam 5/2 to go,coming in fast. He's still favorite to win but I,unfortunately, see him going tonight in the most unfair way. Still, he can hold his head high and be safe in the knowledge he's out the vipers nest.

Very true parmnion and Gina or Dexter haven't won yet so Sam fans can decide who to go for:hugesmile:

[smudgie]

Very true parmnion and Gina or Dexter haven't won yet so Sam fans can decide who to go for:hugesmile:

That would be the twins for me:dance:

[Vicky.]

I also think the bookies are partly to blame tbh, offering 40/1 on him while everyone else was around the 2/1 mark. A few decent sized bets at 40/1 and those people to vote..he would be gone.

[Kazanne]

That would be the twins for me:dance:

Yes me too:hugesmile:

[Kazanne]

It's all very bemusing,he's quiet and nice he's slated for being boring,he has a go at Dexter and he's public enemy number 1:joker::joker:

[Beso]

Yes me too:hugesmile:

Probably me too even though I have money on charlie to win.:bawling:

[Kazanne]

Probably me too even though I have money on charlie to win.:bawling:

we may have to rename the ship HMS Twinney:joker::joker:

[Novo]

HMS Twinney will have a meeting with the Kohberg next

[Beth.]

It would appear that Dexter and Gina fans are voting for sam to be evicted in their droves. They both know that Sam is the only threat to their crown so they are ganging together to get rid of him. Sams odds are sliding faster than Wayne Rooneys football skills.

Voting on the show does not effect the betting odds ,its only people placing bets

[JTM45]

Great innit!!!:hugesmile:

[Vanessa]

:nono:Let's get Nasty Sam out! He has to go!

[RichardG]

There's not a chance he ever would have gone if he didn't kick off the way he did last night over something so silly. Truthfully I still don't see him getting enough votes to leave tbh but if he does then that's the reason.

[Fosse]

Sam isn't the brightest crayon in the pack and played a very poor game recently.

[Vanessa]

Sams has gone from 40/1 to 2.5/1

Is this the biggest fall from grace since Sezer? :joker::devil:

[Vanessa]

There's not a chance he ever would have gone if he didn't kick off the way he did last night over something so silly. Truthfully I still don't see him getting enough votes to leave tbh but if he does then that's the reason.

Sam is handing the victory to Dexter at the moment. :dance:

[barbel13]

Sam 5/2 to go,coming in fast. He's still favorite to win but I,unfortunately, see him going tonight in the most unfair way. Still, he can hold his head high and be safe in the knowledge he's out the vipers nest.

SAM HOLD HIS HEAD HIGH?????


Sam wants to raise awareness for deaf people????Right let see!!!! SAM talked about women gash.boobies,expanding wi...y, watching the girls having showers with callum and feasting on it. yea great ambassador for the deaf.I just have to laugh people want sam to win.:nono:

[Fosse]

Why would the deaf need a halfwit like Sam to represent them?

[Vicky.]

Sams has gone from 40/1 to 2.5/1

Is this the biggest fall from grace since Sezer? :joker::devil:

I think Sezer was a big fave to go?

He just thought he was safe, as he was arrogant as hell.

I do think Sam going would be a bit of a Sezer moment, not necessarily because of arrogance, but I really do not think he(or ANY of the housemates) expects it to be him tonight.

[smudgie]

Voting on the show does not effect the betting odds ,its only people placing bets

Yes, the bookies have been given the jitters by The Daily scum article I reckon. His odds were ridiculously high to start with to be honest.
Some big money bets gone his way.

[Vanessa]

I think Sezer was a big fave to go?

He just thought he was safe, as he was arrogant as hell.

I do think Sam going would be a bit of a Sezer moment, not necessarily because of arrogance, but I really do not think he(or ANY of the housemates) expects it to be him tonight.

Let's make it happen. It's going to be amazing! Sam deserves to go. His treatment of Dexter is unfair. I bet he wouldn't say anything if twins had taken the lowest amount. :nono:

[Tozzie]

SAM HOLD HIS HEAD HIGH?????


Sam wants to raise awareness for deaf people????Right let see!!!! SAM talked about women gash.boobies,expanding wi...y, watching the girls having showers with callum and feasting on it. yea great ambassador for the deaf.I just have to laugh people want sam to win.:nono:

I understand what you are saying but I guess without other housemate fans there would be no show, the show needs people to have differing fan bases. I don't like Sam but his fans as Twin/Gina/Charlie fans are making this a great competition. Really enjoyed this years show. Dexter all the way!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

It's greedy Sam's time to go but don't get complacent keep sending the votes in, GET SAM OUT !!!

[Kazanne]

its not people voting whats changed the odds, its who he is up against and betting only changes on bet handed over the counter

[Beth.]

its not people voting whats changed the odds, its who he is up against and betting only changes on bet handed over the counter

You are right ,hope people on here (apart from if the actually gone into the bookies and laid massive bets) will claim THEY got rid of Sam ,because it is not true ,but Sam is still the favourite to win the show

[Beth.]

its not people voting whats changed the odds, its who he is up against and betting only changes on bet handed over the counter

You are right ,hope people on here (apart from if the actually gone into the bookies and laid massive bets) will claim THEY got rid of Sam ,because it is not true , Sam is still the favourite to win the show

[Black Dagger]

It's all very bemusing,he's quiet and nice he's slated for being boring,he has a go at Dexter and he's public enemy number 1:joker::joker:

I wanted him to go in week 6.

And he is boring.. one little rant where he waffled a load of ****e isn't going to make him a good housemate, with any luck he did enough damage last night and has sent himself packing.

[Lex]

It would appear that Dexter and Gina fans are voting for sam to be evicted in their droves. They both know that Sam is the only threat to their crown so they are ganging together to get rid of him. Sams odds are sliding faster than Wayne Rooneys football skills.

Yeah!...it's good isn't it! :thumbs:...Just now he's joint favourite with Sophie to be evicted tonight ...at 2's!

It's good to know that common sense and fairplay CAN win in the end!...Get the bad tempered spoilt-brat that has bored and slept his way through the series OUT! :xyxwave:..

[Jimrod]

The Dexter/Gina brigade will find any excuse to lay into the other housemates that might topple them from their BB assisted thrones - "Sam the bore", "Sam does nothing". Sam stands up to Dexter then it's "Sam the bully", "Sam the vile, arrogant, aggressive sleaze" (note the use of putrid language for merely calling someone out on their lies). Same happened to Callum, same will happen to the twins if Sam goes, same language, same insults, same posters.

[Vanessa]

Bye bye Sam! :xyxwave:

[Lex]

You are right ,hope people on here (apart from if the actually gone into the bookies and laid massive bets) will claim THEY got rid of Sam ,because it is not true , Sam is still the favourite to win the show

Only just though GGG!...Dexter is closing in ...Fast!...he has the momentum to eclipse 'Golden Boy' even if he survives tonight! [which is looking increasingly doubtful imo!] ....it's going to be a lot tighter than I thought just a week ago! ...it's exciting!! :tongue:

[sampvt]

Everyone seems to think that bookies drift and tighten odds based on bets laid, this is not correct. They will offer bigger odds to attract mug money and if they want they can shorten odds as they like just to protect themselves.Letme explain. If anyone has been to the track and seen someone going up to one bookie and placing a big bet, that bookie rubs the choice out and shortens that horses odds to protect his own book. Others see this and boom, all the odds change. That means that the other bookies who have not taken a penny have shortened their odds due to another bookies big punter.

The only reason sams odds have shortened so badly is 2 fold......dexter and gia fans are rumoured to be voting on him but the DS article has given the bookies the collywobbles and they PERCIEVE him to be less liked due to it but as for money paid on him, that's not true. Votes are not linked to odds. The odds are concocted from information gained and form, not knowledge of votes placed which are for the most part secretive.

[Vicky.]

Everyone seems to think that bookies drift and tighten odds based on bets laid, this is not correct. They will offer bigger odds to attract mug money and if they want they can shorten odds as they like just to protect themselves.Letme explain. If anyone has been to the track and seen someone going up to one bookie and placing a big bet, that bookie rubs the choice out and shortens that horses odds to protect his own book. Others see this and boom, all the odds change. That means that the other bookies who have not taken a penny have shortened their odds due to another bookies big punter.

The only reason sams odds have shortened so badly is 2 fold......dexter and gia fans are rumoured to be voting on him but the DS article has given the bookies the collywobbles and they PERCIEVE him to be less liked due to it but as for money paid on him, that's not true. Votes are not linked to odds. The odds are concocted from information gained and form, not knowledge of votes placed which are for the most part secretive.

If this is the case and bookies are just attracting 'mug' bets rather than reflecting a real change in opinion..then surely theres nothing to worry about. Sam wont be going.

[Lister of Smeg]

Keep voting our block vote is working his odds are in free fall.

[sampvt]

If this is the case and bookies are just attracting 'mug' bets rather than reflecting a real change in opinion..then surely theres nothing to worry about. Sam wont be going.

Agreed.....look at the win odds they are still the same as they were. Sam seems safe but the bookies are worried about an Aaron style bet to get rid of the fav making way for Gina or dexter. They simply cant afford to push his win odds out to 3/1 or the like because they would be hammered with smart money bets and if he is saved they would need to reform the market. Don't forget that the vote to win comes in this week which is way different to VTE.

Dexter is looking good for the win if BB give san another bad edit. maybe they have a spin off show for dexter in mind like the great pretender or how to be important and loved with a zero personality.

They may even start a new series called embarrassing voters, lol.

[Benjamin]

Sam 5/2 to go,coming in fast. He's still favorite to win but I,unfortunately, see him going tonight in the most unfair way. Still, he can hold his head high and be safe in the knowledge he's out the vipers nest.

How is it unfair?

[Brother Leon]

Sam is the victim of being a bitter twat, who has put his spot in the house in danger due to his actions.

[sampvt]

Dexter is so infuriatingly scammy that he has the ability to make normal people implode. hardly a good trait to posess but some think it is. Sad really but its a fact of life. Sams only saving grace is that there are more decent people out there than bitter voters supporting either dex or gina

[Black Dagger]

He's a foul mouthed yob, the good ole Daily Star revealed it, hardly decent :hmph:

[Benjamin]

Dexter is so infuriatingly scammy that he has the ability to make normal people implode. hardly a good trait to posess but some think it is. Sad really but its a fact of life. Sams only saving grace is that there are more decent people out there than bitter voters supporting either dex or gina

I'd appreciate you not calling voters and fans bitter. I support both and I am not bitter, people want Sam out as he is favourite but for doing naff all for 9 weeks.

[Cheddarcakes]

Dexter fan here . Bye bye Sam I bought into the ruse :D

[Lex]

Sam is the victim of being a bitter twat, who has put his spot in the house in danger due to his actions.

Yep!...but they won't listen Leon!!...If their 'Golden Boy' goes tonight, or just does not win the show...then it will be for some other 'nefarious reason' rather than his own inadequacies! :nono:..:joker:

[Kazanne]

He's a foul mouthed yob, the good ole Daily Star revealed it, hardly decent :hmph:

So you are one of those people who believe the 'Star' nuff said.:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

I'd appreciate you not calling voters and fans bitter. I support both and I am not bitter, people want Sam out as he is favourite but for doing naff all for 9 weeks.

Indeed. Sick to death of people going on about fans. Bumped the rule about this loads of times but people still dont appear to get it :bored:

[Lister of Smeg]

Dexter is so infuriatingly scammy that he has the ability to make normal people implode. hardly a good trait to posess but some think it is. Sad really but its a fact of life. Sams only saving grace is that there are more decent people out there than bitter voters supporting either dex or gina

Yes yes keep on ranting it dont change anyones opinion :xyxwave:

[Lex]

I'd appreciate you not calling voters and fans bitter. I support both and I am not bitter, people want Sam out as he is favourite but for doing naff all for 9 weeks.

Well said! :thumbs:

[Black Dagger]

So you are one of those people who believe the 'Star' nuff said.:hugesmile:

Only about Sam :hmph:

I see no reasons why they would lie about him.

[Vanessa]

Let's give Dexter a happy last few days in the House! Vote Nasty Sam out! :nono:

[Lex]

So you are one of those people who believe the 'Star' nuff said.:hugesmile:

And you only believe the Dexter Trash , don't you Kaz! :whistle:..:hugesmile:

[sampvt]

I'd appreciate you not calling voters and fans bitter. I support both and I am not bitter, people want Sam out as he is favourite but for doing naff all for 9 weeks.

I wasn't referring to forum members I was generalising about the GBP and those that vote for the winner or evictees. Nothing to do with me and this forum at all.

[Lister of Smeg]

I'd appreciate you not calling voters and fans bitter. I support both and I am not bitter, people want Sam out as he is favourite but for doing naff all for 9 weeks.

:worship:

[Lex]

Let's give Dexter a happy last few days in the House! Vote Nasty Sam out! :nono:

I'm on it Vanessa! :dog:.. :thumbs:

[Lister of Smeg]

Let's give Dexter a happy last few days in the House! Vote Nasty Sam out! :nono:

Hope your back from Italy Vanessa we need your votes tonight :nono:

[sampvt]

Why is it that fans of other HM,s can slag and shout about sam yet when anyone mentions dexter or gina they are categorised as bad posters. The bitterness thing works both ways. And in my case I wasn't singling out forum members anyway

[Vanessa]

Hope your back from Italy Vanessa we need your votes tonight :nono:

Yes! I'm ready to vote Sam out! :dance:

[Lister of Smeg]

Yes! I'm ready to vote Sam out! :dance:

Already gave him 5 votes will do some more in a bit :dance:

[Tom4784]

I'd say if Sam is evicted it's due to the fact that his façade slipped yesterday and he revealed himself to be a bitter insincere fool.

[Vicky.]

Why is it that fans of other HM,s can slag and shout about sam yet when anyone mentions dexter or gina they are categorised as bad posters. The bitterness thing works both ways. And in my case I wasn't singling out forum members anyway

Because slagging and shouting about sam is different to slagging and shouting about sam fans?

[Kazanne]

Yes yes keep on ranting it dont change anyones opinion :xyxwave:

Ditto:joker::joker::joker:

[sampvt]

Because slagging and shouting about sam is different to slagging and shouting about sam fans?

Please help me out here Vicky....Ive been called a DEXTER HATER so many times due to the fact that I support sam. Is this derogatory term Dexter hater not a slant against a Sam Fan. If so why haven't these posters been pulled up.

[Vicky.]

Please help me out here Vicky....Ive been called a DEXTER HATER so many times due to the fact that I support sam. Is this derogatory term Dexter hater not a slant against a Sam Fan. If so why haven't these posters been pulled up.

Are you sure its not because its quite obvious that you dislike Dexter, rather than it being because you like Sam?

And if you find something offensive/personal towards you, report it.

[sampvt]

Are you sure its not because its quite obvious that you dislike Dexter, rather than it being because you like Sam?

And if you find something offensive/personal towards you, report it.

The fact that I don't like Dexter has little or nothing to do with anything. I was asking whether or not being labled a sam lover or dexter hater is a derogatory term. I have in the past generalised and said Dexter supporters are ............I was then pulled for saying I was being rude to dexter fans.

On the other side of the coin, I find that being labelled a dexter hater is just as bad or far worse as I don't HATE anyone as hate is such a strong word.

Furthermore reporting stuff doesn't work for me as its so childish.

[Vicky.]

The fact that I don't like Dexter has little or nothing to do with anything. I was asking whether or not being labled a sam lover or dexter hater is a derogatory term. I have in the past generalised and said Dexter supporters are ............I was then pulled for saying I was being rude to dexter fans.

On the other side of the coin, I find that being labelled a dexter hater is just as bad or far worse as I don't HATE anyone as hate is such a strong word.

Furthermore reporting stuff doesn't work for me as its so childish.

I dont see how it would be :conf:

If someone said 'dexter haters are all stupid' or something, then it is obviously a rulebreak. But calling someone a X lover or X hater isnt offensive :S (Edit. Or is not against the rules)

[mercerm]

It's not a ruse, is it? Anybody following a hm and wanting them to win is either voting to evict Sam or they don't actually know this show works. He is the biggest threat to any hm.

EVERYONE is targeting Sam, not just Dexter and Gina fans.:hugesmile:

[smeagol]

it would be great if he goes. even better if he could take those vindictive tosspots the twins with him

[Tom4784]

The fact that I don't like Dexter has little or nothing to do with anything. I was asking whether or not being labled a sam lover or dexter hater is a derogatory term. I have in the past generalised and said Dexter supporters are ............I was then pulled for saying I was being rude to dexter fans.

On the other side of the coin, I find that being labelled a dexter hater is just as bad or far worse as I don't HATE anyone as hate is such a strong word.

Furthermore reporting stuff doesn't work for me as its so childish.

Reporting posts doesn't 'work' for you because you report people for no reason, We are not here to ban or delete anything you do not like, as long as it doesn't break the rules it stays. Consider future reports carefully because constant false reports will lead to severe infractions. I may make an announcement about this as a number of members are making false reports and it's incredibly annoying.

I would not say being labelled a hater or a fan is derogatory, there's a difference between that and making statements about fans.

[alex_front2]

Why is it that fans of other HM,s can slag and shout about sam yet when anyone mentions dexter or gina they are categorised as bad posters. The bitterness thing works both ways. And in my case I wasn't singling out forum members anyway

Let's keep it too HM and not poster, last time you claimed I was a transgendered lesbian or something. :joker:

[Nedusa]

It's all very bemusing,he's quiet and nice he's slated for being boring,he has a go at Dexter and he's public enemy number 1:joker::joker:

Yes I agree it is strange, but I think Sam's fan base is based on the quiet charming loveable person they have warmed to over the last couple of Months. Tactically he is not doing himself any favours now at this late stage trying to become a nastier, angrier , louder version of himself.

People like him for who he is now. Also I think a few fans are a bit annoyed that he didn't fully think through his reasons for being miffed at Dexter. As I said in an earlier thread Dexter didn't actually do anything wrong if you look again into last nights show.

Sam needs to calm down and just be Sam....

[erinp5]

Big Brother Xtra ‏@BigBrotherXtra 21m

NEWSFLASH In the last 20 minutes Sam has moved to fav for tonight's eviction, some weird **** going down?

It's called D&G voting together to get Sam out!!!:dance: