Can Dexter win?

[Vicky.]

I do not mean the show. I mean with the housemates. I am going to give you 4 things that were brought up about him last night, and I want people to give me something he could have done in the situation that would not have pissed the housemates off in some way and gained the house whipping boy a bit more whipping.


1) The 88k thing. I am not even going to attempt to defend it or anything as none of us know what he was thinking or why he did what he did. However

With Charlie going last, had Dexter picked the highest amount available to him, this would have forced Charlie to have the lowest amount by default. And this would have seen her evicted. She said she didnt want the money, nor did she want to be evicted.

Lets assume the save and replace twist didnt happen, in the interests of this thread. As the housemates had no idea that the twist was that (even though they did think there was a twist to it)

Do you think the housemates would have applauded Dexter for effectively sending Charlie home and remaining in the house himself?

Even with the save and replace twist going ahead, I cant see Charlie being happy at ALL about being the (default) lowest. It would have somehow been Dexters fault, and she would not have wanted to pick one of the others to replace her..and she would no doubt have thought out that if the twist hadnt happened, she would have been leaving the house. No doubt whinged that dex didnt throw her a lifeline or something similar.

To win with the housemates in this situation..what should he have done?

2) The night everyone ganged up on Charlie.

Dexter spent a lot of this night in the diary room. After spending time talking to her in the bedroom while the rest all slagged her off. BB called Dexter to the diary room solely to see the kickoff IMO, as Charlie at that point went to talk to the others.

When he came back from the diary room, she was mid-argument with Hazel. Hazel did have a point tbh..though the way they all ganged up was not nice to watch at all.

Dexter could have disagreed with what Hazel was saying (as what she was saying was true), however, just because he likes Charlie, does this mean he should stand up for her no matter what..even if he agreed with what Hazel was saying? Had he done this, in my opinion they would have turned on him, and the whole thing would somehow have ended up being his fault, and part of his gameplan.

Dexter could have told them to chill out a bit. But again, it would be twisted into him getting involved in something that was nothing to do with him. And they wouldn't have listened anyway.

To win with the housemates in this situation...What should he have done?

3) The current Charlie relationship

Yup. This one seems easy, shouldnt have got involved in the first place(which I agree with). But thats not an option as this is about what he could do now ;)

Keep going as he is. Despite Charlie bitching about it to anyone who will listen about it just being a gameplan?

Cool off. Which would mean..to the housemates and charlie..that he doesnt have feelings, and it was just a gameplan all along?

4) Last night, Sam decided that Dexter NOT saying bad things about him was a gameplan.

Should he start slagging off Sam and insulting him? Even though he doesnt want to? Just to not be accused of having a gameplan? I dont suspect that would work anyway, as if he randomly started going mental at Sam...it would be a gameplan too I would think :D

Or should he just remain as he has been. And be accused of it being a gameplan?



This is in no way a defence thread. I'm not even going to attempt it because I cant really defend any of this as I dont know what was going through his head at any of these times. Also defending his actions is pointless, as those who like him will agree and those that dont will disagree, no matter what is said.

I just want to know if anyone can think of what he could have done in these situations. As I cant see anything he could have done that wouldnt piss off the house or make out he has another gameplan :joker:

Basically I am sick of saying things like 'the guy cant win'. when things happen. And I would like to know if there is anyway he could :p

[Ellen]

I think Dexter shot himself in the foot from the moment he went into the house with the Mr big i am which went down like a lead balloon with the other HM's.
He didnt help himself with the going bk & forwards from person to person putting doubts in their minds, he was not trusted from the start, that has followed him throughout....

[Vicky.]

I think Dexter shot himself in the foot from the moment he went into the house with the Mr big i am which went down like a lead balloon with the other HM's.
He didnt help himself with the going bk & forwards from person to person putting doubts in their minds, he was not trusted from the start, that has followed him throughout....

Completely agree with this.

But could he possibly do ANYTHING right in the housemates eyes now? Or are they going to forever judge him on something that happened 8 weeks ago? :laugh:

[Roy Mars III]

hopefully, one always wants to see good overcome evil

[sampvt]

He only has one chance to redeem himself and that is to own up and tell the truth.

[CaudleHalbard]

It could be said Dexter is succeeding DESPITE his gameplan(s).

If he just gone into the house as a paparazzo scratching a living, he might have got a lot more support. But he didn't have the self-confidence to do it.

Sad really. :(

[Vicky.]

He only has one chance to redeem himself and that is to own up and tell the truth.
What is 'the truth' though? I would love to know.

[Ellen]

Completely agree with this.

But could he possibly do ANYTHING right in the housemates eyes now? Or are they going to forever judge him on something that happened 8 weeks ago? :laugh:

Im not sure tbh Vicky, perhaps if he told them all the actual truth whatever that is he might BUT with the theme been secrets & lies they are more likely to think he is not telling the truth anyway so i guess they probably wont change their minds now.

[Vicky.]

Im not sure tbh Vicky, perhaps if he told them all the actual truth whatever that is he might BUT with the theme been secrets & lies they are more likely to think he is not telling the truth anyway so i guess they probably wont change their minds now.

Noone knows hes not telling the truth, nor what this truth is though...so 'telling the truth' isnt really an answer :S

[CaudleHalbard]

What is 'the truth' though? I would love to know.

We'll never know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

We know a few bits of it........ or so we think, anyway!

[Ellen]

Noone knows hes not telling the truth, nor what this truth is though...so 'telling the truth' isnt really an answer :S

Yes but as far as the HM's are concerned he talks BS which started from the get go so they never believe he is doing or saying something for real or not.

[Vicky.]

We'll never know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

We know a few bits of it........ or so we think, anyway!

See this annoys me. People always saying 'he should just tell the truth'. With NO way of knowing he isnt, and they never seem to know what 'the truth' is themselves either.

It might all be a big lie. It might not. But those who dislike him seem absolutely certain that it is, yet cant explain why they think this(besides saying 'because its dexter), or what the actual lie is :D

[Vicky.]

Yes but as far as the HM's are concerned he talks BS which started from the get go so they never believe he is doing or saying something for real or not.

So even if he told this mysterious truth..he still wouldnt win. As somehow every little thing he says now is BS, because of the first few days when he definitely did speak BS.

This is all I wanted to know. Basically, he is screwed no matter what. As I suspected :laugh:

[CaudleHalbard]

Nobody will now believe what Dexter says... even if is the truth.

[Ellen]

So even if he told this mysterious truth..he still wouldnt win. As somehow every little thing he says now is BS, because of the first few days when he definitely did speak BS.

This is all I wanted to know. Basically, he is screwed no matter what. As I suspected :laugh:

I think so yes, the HM's have difficulty believing anything he says now.

[Lister of Smeg]

They wouldnt give him the benefit of the doubt on anything the house could catch Dexter could run in to the bedroom and warn them and they would insist its a lie and part of his gameplan go back to sleep and burn to death .

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Dexter will win i have faith, Endemol should throw in 200,000 votes just for Dexter's entertainment value this series ;)

[Miranda123]

Completely agree with this.

But could he possibly do ANYTHING right in the housemates eyes now? Or are they going to forever judge him on something that happened 8 weeks ago? :laugh:

I think from the beginning of the show, Dexter made a massive point of him being a dating advisor (if that one is true Id be amazed) and a PR person, I dont believe that either, I worked in PR for 15 years and I cant see it being true, he also makes a point of telling everyone how he thinks they will be perceived which makes people suspicious, even though he nearly always gets it wrong lol

I actually dont think he can redeem himself now, unless he had a massive secret, like a brain tumour, he's buggered lol

[Miranda123]

So even if he told this mysterious truth..he still wouldnt win. As somehow every little thing he says now is BS, because of the first few days when he definitely did speak BS.

This is all I wanted to know. Basically, he is screwed no matter what. As I suspected :laugh:

The thing is that saying you have a secret just makes you look like you are deceiving people

The thing with a secret is, if you announce it, it sounds like either youre BSing or you want people to keep asking you what it is, either of these comes across as attention seeking

If you see my previous posts, I really liked Dexter when he was in the SH with Gina and still like their relationship but I dont think Gina cares what he is, she just likes him, the others dont really like him (apart from Charlie) so for them, its all BS

Since he left the SH he has got a bit too full of himself and I think that will cost him 2nd place, he may even lose out to the wins and come in 4th

[Holly Christmas]

He's screwed cos he is what he is and they all see right through him. Even Charlie knows deep down. None of them trust him an inch. He's a grasping selfish money fixated horrible little man. You can see it in his eyes. I can't believe the amount of people he's fooled. Thought most were more savvy than that.

If he wins I despair.

[Vicky.]

To clarify, I am not denying he has screwed it for himself with his ill thought out gameplan at the start.

What I am asking is if there is any way he can do anything right in the eyes of the housemates NOW. In any of the above situations

Hell, I suspect if he rescued a drowning kitten from the pool it would be made out to be just a gameplan :laugh:

[Cherry Christmas]

To clarify, I am not denying he has screwed it for himself with his ill thought out gameplan at the start.

What I am asking is if there is any way he can do anything right in the eyes of the housemates NOW. In any of the above situations

Hell, I suspect if he rescued a drowning kitten from the pool it would be made out to be just a gameplan :laugh:



So true.

[Slevin]

I think Dexter shot himself in the foot from the moment he went into the house with the Mr big i am which went down like a lead balloon with the other HM's.
He didnt help himself with the going bk & forwards from person to person putting doubts in their minds, he was not trusted from the start, that has followed him throughout....
yea that didnt help but i think the thing to save his behind with Michael "choosing" who stays might of been the real nail in the coffin. just the way he did it irked em.

i dont think he can redeem himself in their eyes.

[Marc]

Doesn't deserve it IMO

[Winkie Expand]

The only way for a 'Dexter' to possibly change, learn and grow from this Big Brother journey would be to lose.

He walked in the house with a chip on his shoulder that's still very much there. All of the prepared, random speeches and crocodile tears haven't convinced a large portion of the viewing audience that he's anything more than a creepy, narcissistic twerp. Once he sees that he couldn't fool people, maybe he'll truly get to work on being a better person.

[joeysteele]

I don't really know, my own take on Dexter and those scenario's are that he tires to avoid confrontations but they find him.

Like in the first week, he had an issue with Dan as to Michael but couldn't say it out loud,he chose to initially do it anonymously although admitting it later after it was fully known what had been said.
Of course we had the awkward explanation to Dan of why he did that which again showed up his desire to prefer to avoid confrontational situations.

I have watched him with the other confrontations too, he is there as it goes on usually but says nothing,takes no sides, waiting instead to go to whoever is alone afterwards then getting further info as to it that way.

That may well be a confidence thing, that he feels unable to take on anyone in heavy confrontational situations. I do think it has contributed to his lack of support from the other housemates however.

Being fair, that is not me criticising him for being like that, I see lots of people who avoid confrontation but do have a side they are on,however they only reveal that to the person they agree with rather than stand up for them at the time.

As for the money thing, well he obviously could have taken a much larger amount and it was his saying that he didn't see the £99,000 board that made his argument sound weak and suspect as to that issue.

It is though really hard to work out what Dexter is thinking or why he does things and maybe that is in fact the only sort of gameplan he has, nothing wrong with having a gameplan at all.
However whatever his may be,it hasn't worked that well for him with the other housemates.
It has though seen him survive so many evictions and so clearly has not too badly alienated the public who vote.

I have said from week 2, I take all he says with a pinch of salt.
Rightly or wrongly that may be how the other housemates see things as to him too which will more than likely reduce their trust,if any, in him.

Can he win with the housemates is the question, I'd say probably not but that shouldn't really bother him, he was in effect ostracised and got at from the early days for several weeks by the others, he owes them not a thing really.
He clearly has however had far more success with the public who vote though rather than the housemates and that does have to be to his credit to be fair.

[Kyle]

Why don't you just ask yourself one question, would you like to be around someone who quite clearly completely lied about who they said they were and tried to pull the wool over your eyes?

No, you would tell them to do one. That's why he can't win with the housemates he's completely untrustworthy.

[Vicky.]

Why don't you just ask yourself one question, would you like to be around someone who quite clearly completely lied about who they said they were and tried to pull the wool over your eyes?

No, you would tell them to do one. That's why he can't win with the housemates he's completely untrustworthy.

Thanks. Thats all I asked.

[Kyle]

Thanks. Thats all I asked.

Do you expect him to redeem himself or something. Would you trust him?

[Vicky.]

Do you expect him to redeem himself or something. Would you trust him?

I wouldn't trust him no, but I wouldnt hold something against someone forever either. In a BB situation, you expect a bit of BS. I definitely wouldn't assume that everything he did was a gameplan or everything he said was lies..thats for sure. And thats what the HMs seem to be doing (bar Gina)

Redeem himself? Does it matter? I was only asking if there was any way he could win, thats all. And it appears he cant, as I suspected. So it doesn;t matter what he does, he will get **** for it anyway :laugh:

[Kyle]

I wouldn't trust him no, but I wouldnt hold something against someone forever either. In a BB situation, you expect a bit of BS. I definitely wouldn't assume that everything he did was a gameplan or everything he said was lies..thats for sure. And thats what the HMs seem to be doing (bar Gina)

Redeem himself? Does it matter? I was only asking if there was any way he could win, thats all. And it appears he cant, as I suspected. So it doesn;t matter what he does, he will get **** for it anyway :laugh:

I didn't think he deserved being ostracised in the first few weeks, and since he's cut the bull the housemates do seem to have built a frail but tangible rappor with him.

Unfortunately though you never forget and I suspect the housemates treat everything he says with a pinch of salt.

I'm sure it doesn't matter for him anyway once he's out he can do what he wants I don't think many of the hm's will want owt to do with him.

[karezza]

Good will prevail - Dexter will win.

:xyxwave:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Good point in the first question, it's kinda strange that Charlie was so desperate to go last when it could have meant her leaving being unavoidable and when she was supposedly so adamant that she was always going to take the highest figure available

[In the Drunk Tank]

It all started I think when he put that anonymous letter in telling Dan to leave Michael alone, and then only owned up to it in a desperate attempt to save himself

It was a fair tactic but did make him seem a bit of a sneaky **** and it backfired when it turned out he'd thrown his lot in with the guy who was an actor and deceiving them all, and not Dan who seemed really vindicated when Michael was unveiled

[jet]

Vicky said:
With Charlie going last, had Dexter picked the highest amount available to him, this would have forced Charlie to have the lowest amount by default. And this would have seen her evicted. She said she didnt want the money, nor did she want to be evicted.

Lets assume the save and replace twist didnt happen, in the interests of this thread. As the housemates had no idea that the twist was that (even though they did think there was a twist to it)

Do you think the housemates would have applauded Dexter for effectively sending Charlie home and remaining in the house himself?


But this didn't even feature in Dexter's list of excuses as to why he chose the lowest amount so it's irrelevant. If Dexter was so smart (and he has shown he isnt') he would have said he picked the lowest so Charlie could pick higher.

But even this wouldn't wash, as there were still numbers between the 99k and the twins pick. So if Dexter had chosen one of them, it was the Twins who would have been walking. So Dexter didn't have to sacrifice himself for Charlie at all - which he clearly didn't even think of doing anyway as he gave 4 different excuses and that wasn't one of them.

The HM's didn't trust him before the money twist, and they are hardly likely to change their minds after that. Many people know instinctively who is trustworthy and who isn't.

[Vicky.]

And that has What to do with my post?^ :joker:

I dont care about his excuses, I was simply saying IF he had picked the highest one, he would still have been in the wrong in the eyes of the housemates. Well.. until the twist came about anyway, in which case Charlie would find some way to blame him for her having to chose sophie or gina :D

(And I thought the twins picked the third highest?)

[Vicky.]

It all started I think when he put that anonymous letter in telling Dan to leave Michael alone, and then only owned up to it in a desperate attempt to save himself

It was a fair tactic but did make him seem a bit of a sneaky **** and it backfired when it turned out he'd thrown his lot in with the guy who was an actor and deceiving them all, and not Dan who seemed really vindicated when Michael was unveiled
Agree with this. That brought on Sallies snake rant, which stuck in everyones heads too.

Still think its silly to assume everything he does (or doesnt do..) is a gameplan though :laugh:

[Vicky.]

I didn't think he deserved being ostracised in the first few weeks, and since he's cut the bull the housemates do seem to have built a frail but tangible rappor with him.

Unfortunately though you never forget and I suspect the housemates treat everything he says with a pinch of salt.

I'm sure it doesn't matter for him anyway once he's out he can do what he wants I don't think many of the hm's will want owt to do with him.
A pinch of salt is fine. Thats understandable given his original plan (which I assume was act up to the horrific wanker he was in his VT :laugh: )

Its also understandable given how he was in the first week or so..

Its the assuming every little thing he does is a gameplan thats ridiculous to me. And now, it seems to evolve into things he HASNT dont being a gameplan too :laugh2:

[jet]

And that has What to do with my post?^ :joker:

I dont care about his excuses, I was simply saying IF he had picked the highest one, he would still have been in the wrong in the eyes of the housemates. Well.. until the twist came about anyway, in which case Charlie would find some way to blame him for her having to chose sophie or gina :D

(And I thought the twins picked the third highest?)

Well excuse me for breathing. You had a whole paragraph about Charlie with a question at the end I was was pointing out it was a moot point anyway. I'll avoid responding to you in future in case it doesn't meet with your stringent criteria.
BTW the twins picked the 3rd highest only because Dexter picked the lowest.
Someone on DS posted a screencap of 98250 on the board.

[Vicky.]

Well excuse me for breathing. You had a whole paragraph about Charlie with a question at the end I was was pointing out it was a moot point anyway. I'll avoid responding to you in future in case it doesn't meet with your stringent criteria.
BTW the twins picked the 3rd highest only because Dexter picked the lowest.
Someone on DS posted a screencap of 98250 on the board.

Ah right. I thought they were trying to get the cash and leave(as they asked this a couple of times when picking) but had been too thick to do the maths properly :laugh: Seems they did think it through properly but it didnt work due to Dexters decision

[jet]

Ah right. I thought they were trying to get the cash and leave(as they asked this a couple of times when picking) but had been too thick to do the maths properly :laugh: Seems they did think it through properly but it didnt work due to Dexters decision

They wanted the cash alright. Joe was desperate to leave - or so he said.
Hope this post meets with your approval.

[Tozzie]

I didn't think he deserved being ostracised in the first few weeks, and since he's cut the bull the housemates do seem to have built a frail but tangible rappor with him.

Unfortunately though you never forget and I suspect the housemates treat everything he says with a pinch of salt.

I'm sure it doesn't matter for him anyway once he's out he can do what he wants I don't think many of the hm's will want owt to do with him.

If I were him I certainly wouldn't want anything to do with any of them either. Why would he, he's been picked on and made fun of all the way through the show.

[Kyle]

A pinch of salt is fine. Thats understandable given his original plan (which I assume was act up to the horrific wanker he was in his VT :laugh: )

Its also understandable given how he was in the first week or so..

Its the assuming every little thing he does is a gameplan thats ridiculous to me. And now, it seems to evolve into things he HASNT dont being a gameplan too :laugh2:

You can blame Dan for that, he must have made everyone paranoid. :joker:

[Vicky.]

You can blame Dan for that, he must have made everyone paranoid. :joker:

Ahh Dan :lovedup:

Theres probably a bit of truth in this actually. Along with blaming BB for the secrets and lies thing and Michael. Paranoia overload :D

[Kyle]

If I were him I certainly wouldn't want anything to do with any of them either. Why would he, he's been picked on and made fun of all the way through the show.

Picked on?

The guy made a rod for his own back when he came out acting the billy big boy in the first week. People don't like that.

If I joined this forum and for the first week posted nothing but inane ramblings about how I am so important, the ladies fall to my feet and I make tons of money and someone found out that wasn't true, I would get it in the neck for the entire duration of my time on here and serves me right too.

[Kyle]

Ahh Dan :lovedup:

Theres probably a bit of truth in this actually. Along with blaming BB for the secrets and lies thing and Michael. Paranoia overload :D

Haha I was thinking it when you put what you put before, the guy was relentless about everything. Some things must have stuck on the other housemates.

[Tozzie]

Picked on?

The guy made a rod for his own back when he came out acting the billy big boy in the first week. People don't like that.

If I joined this forum and for the first week posted nothing but inane ramblings about how I am so important, the ladies fall to my feet and I make tons of money and someone found out that wasn't true, I would get it in the neck for the entire duration of my time on here and serves me right too.

As I see it he has been picked on relentlessly I know he hasn't been perfect, I'm under no illusion that he has, none of them are perfect, but I don't feel he deserves the rotten treatment he has had to endure from them continually right from the word go, especially from the twin Jack. It seems only Charlie & Gina on the odd occasion that has shown some compassion but even they jumped on the bandwagon. Heck, anyone would think he's a murderer, its just ridiculous. They have never let up trying to break him but he hasn't allowed them to.

[Kyle]

As I see it he has been picked on relentlessly I know he hasn't been perfect, I'm under no illusion that he has, none of them are perfect, but I don't feel he deserves the rotten treatment he has had to endure from them continually right from the word go, especially from the twin Jack. It seems only Charlie & Gina on the odd occasion that has shown some compassion but even they jumped on the bandwagon. Heck, anyone would think he's a murderer, its just ridiculous. They have never let up trying to break him but he hasn't allowed them to.

Come on Taz I don't think they are that harsh on him, especially compared to week 2 or 3 where they pretty much ostracised him from the collective.

I'm not sure where I stand on this 'break him' thing though because yes I haven't seen him burst into tears over housemates not talking to him but the moment you tell him he's not actually evicted and he can go back in the house he's crying his eyes out like a little child. He really confuses me. :conf:

[Madlyaddicted]

Well said. Anyone that doesn't like him will says its a game plan. I like him and want him to win. Most entertaining without being really nasty to anyone, unlike gina.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Dexter is still being picked on, but he's dealing with it very well. Thank god for Gina. She really helped him when everyone was slagging him off on live feed. Dexter to win! He's a lovely guy. So what if he has a gameplan? Aaron had a gameplan and we still loved him to bits! :dance:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Well said. Anyone that doesn't like him will says its a game plan. I like him and want him to win. Most entertaining without being really nasty to anyone, unlike gina.

They all have a gameplan, but only Dexter is considered nasty for it. :bored:

[Tozzie]

Come on Taz I don't think they are that harsh on him, especially compared to week 2 or 3 where they pretty much ostracised him from the collective.

I'm not sure where I stand on this 'break him' thing though because yes I haven't seen him burst into tears over housemates not talking to him but the moment you tell him he's not actually evicted and he can go back in the house he's crying his eyes out like a little child. He really confuses me. :conf:

he doesn't cry his eyes out, stop exaggerating Simps LOL.
He gets emotional about it.

I feel Dexter has not got much self esteem and when he realises the public have saved him yet again he feels overwhelmed, I can understand that. We all like to be liked. While I know you and a lot won't agree with me and that is your/their prerogative I feel his tears are genuine. I've always been a person who gets upset when I see people 'ganging up' and this is what I perceive the other housemates to be doing. Dexter has continually tried to have fun in the house, he's been a really fun person, basically just trying to enjoy the experience of Big Brother but the others have all tried so hard to destroy his time in there. I wish I were in that house, I would have looked out for him. I've said it many times on here but I'll say it again, if Dexter doesn't win the show it won't matter to me because he has been my winner from start to finish.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

he doesn't cry his eyes out, stop exaggerating Simps LOL.
He gets emotional about it.

I feel Dexter has not got much self esteem and when he realises the public have saved him yet again he feels overwhelmed, I can understand that. We all like to be liked. While I know you and a lot won't agree with me and that is your/their prerogative I feel his tears are genuine. I've always been a person who gets upset when I see people 'ganging up' and this is what I perceive the other housemates to be doing. Dexter has continually tried to have fun in the house, he's been a really fun person, basically just trying to enjoy the experience of Big Brother but the others have all tried so hard to destroy his time in there. I wish I were in that house, I would have looked out for him. I've said it many times on here but I'll say it again, if Dexter doesn't win the show it won't matter to me because he has been my winner from start to finish.

Everyone in the House keep putting him down. He doesn't deserve it at all. I think he'll have the shock of his life when he realises how loved he really is. :hugesmile:

[Kyle]

he doesn't cry his eyes out, stop exaggerating Simps LOL.
He gets emotional about it.

I feel Dexter has not got much self esteem and when he realises the public have saved him yet again he feels overwhelmed, I can understand that. We all like to be liked. While I know you and a lot won't agree with me and that is your/their prerogative I feel his tears are genuine. I've always been a person who gets upset when I see people 'ganging up' and this is what I perceive the other housemates to be doing. Dexter has continually tried to have fun in the house, he's been a really fun person, basically just trying to enjoy the experience of Big Brother but the others have all tried so hard to destroy his time in there. I wish I were in that house, I would have looked out for him. I've said it many times on here but I'll say it again, if Dexter doesn't win the show it won't matter to me because he has been my winner from start to finish.

Did you not seem him when Emma told him he was going back in? If he is that secure with his emotions he wouldn't have slipped up like that. He's also struggled to keep them in check when he's been saved from eviction.

He looks like a guy screaming for affection, not some playboy hard man he reckoned he had going for himself.

Gina handled it better and she's a loaded gun

[Tozzie]

Everyone in the House keep putting him down. He doesn't deserve it at all. I think he'll have the shock of his life when he realises how loved he really is. :hugesmile:

especially when he finds out about my facebook group for him hehe

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

especially when he finds out about my facebook group for him hehe

He'll be chuffed to know he's the new DS favourite. :amazed:

[Tozzie]

Did you not seem him when Emma told him he was going back in? If he is that secure with his emotions he wouldn't have slipped up like that. He's also struggled to keep them in check when he's been saved from eviction.

He looks like a guy screaming for affection, not some playboy hard man he reckoned he had going for himself.

Gina handled it better and she's a loaded gun

I'd gladly give him a cuddle, I'm old enough to be his mum and I feel really protective of him, thats the motherly instinct in me I guess hehe.

[Tozzie]

He'll be chuffed to know he's the new DS favourite. :amazed:

is he? awwwww thats fab news for us Dexter fans.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I'd gladly give him a cuddle, I'm old enough to be his mum and I feel really protective of him, thats the motherly instinct in me I guess hehe.

Me too! He's so sweet! :lovedup:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

is he? awwwww thats fab news for us Dexter fans.

He is! DS want him to win now! Amazing ! They hated him before! :joker:

[Tozzie]

He is! DS want him to win now! Amazing ! They hated him before! :joker:

:dance::elephant::colour::spin2::dazzler::bouncy:: hello::thumbs::banana::cheer::thumbs2::dance2: phew, I'm buggered now, the minds willing but the body aint up to all that dancing hahaha

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

:dance::elephant::colour::spin2::dazzler::bouncy:: hello::thumbs::banana::cheer::thumbs2::dance2: phew, I'm buggered now, the minds willing but the body aint up to all that dancing hahaha

They have a very dedicated Dexter appreciation thread. They're determined to make Dexter the winner. :hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

Did you not seem him when Emma told him he was going back in? If he is that secure with his emotions he wouldn't have slipped up like that. He's also struggled to keep them in check when he's been saved from eviction.

He looks like a guy screaming for affection, not some playboy hard man he reckoned he had going for himself.

Gina handled it better and she's a loaded gun

I am actually glad that someone who dislikes him has pointed this out. As usually those who don't like him reckon any emotion he shows, and his eviction reactions, are fake and part of this neverending gameplan.

[Kyle]

I am actually glad that someone who dislikes him has pointed this out. As usually those who don't like him reckon any emotion he shows, and his eviction reactions, are fake and part of this neverending gameplan.

I have no idea where he is with his emotions as I said earlier he confuses me when he doesn't seem to care about housemates ganging up on him but save him from eviction and the floodgates open. :conf:

[Vicky.]

I have no idea where he is with his emotions as I said earlier he confuses me when he doesn't seem to care about housemates ganging up on him but save him from eviction and the floodgates open. :conf:

This is exactly why I like him so much :laugh:

I imagine the emotions thing is because its easier to hold in your emotions when you arent under pressure. When the housemates are going at him, I would bet hes upset/angry about it but can control it (usually, he has got angry a few times)

But on an eviction night the stress must be immense. Even just the thought of leaving to the crowd that tends to boo everyone.

[Delightful]

I think Dexter shot himself in the foot from the moment he went into the house with the Mr big i am which went down like a lead balloon with the other HM's.
He didnt help himself with the going bk & forwards from person to person putting doubts in their minds, he was not trusted from the start, that has followed him throughout....

There is no evidence that he ever did this and no housemate has ever given examples, which they would if there were any.

[Kyle]

This is exactly why I like him so much :laugh:

I imagine the emotions thing is because its easier to hold in your emotions when you arent under pressure. When the housemates are going at him, I would bet hes upset/angry about it but can control it (usually, he has got angry a few times)

But on an eviction night the stress must be immense. Even just the thought of leaving to the crowd that tends to boo everyone.

Well I suppose what they say about you women is true, you like a man you have to unravel and work out! :wink:

Dexter certainly has many layers, ill give him his due on that. It would be like pass the parcel :dance:

[Ammi]

This is exactly why I like him so much :laugh:

I imagine the emotions thing is because its easier to hold in your emotions when you arent under pressure. When the housemates are going at him, I would bet hes upset/angry about it but can control it (usually, he has got angry a few times)

But on an eviction night the stress must be immense. Even just the thought of leaving to the crowd that tends to boo everyone.

..maybe he expects/is used to rejection so he finds it easier to accept but when he support he becomes emotional because he didn't expect it..?...

[jet]

Dexter is still being picked on, but he's dealing with it very well. Thank god for Gina. She really helped him when everyone was slagging him off on live feed. Dexter to win! He's a lovely guy. So what if he has a gameplan? Aaron had a gameplan and we still loved him to bits! :dance:

Speak for yourself! :nono:

[Vicky.]

..maybe he expects/is used to rejection so he finds it easier to accept but when he support he becomes emotional because he didn't expect it..?...

This would make sense too actually

[Vicky.]

Well I suppose what they say about you women is true, you like a man you have to unravel and work out! :wink:

Dexter certainly has many layers, ill give him his due on that. It would be like pass the parcel :dance:
This is why I found Sams nomination of him quite funny. When he said something about onions.

As I kind of view Dexter as an onion :joker:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

..maybe he expects/is used to rejection so he finds it easier to accept but when he support he becomes emotional because he didn't expect it..?...

Yes. He has worked as a pap, so he's used to criticism i guess. :laugh:

[Kyle]

This is why I found Sams nomination of him quite funny. When he said something about onions.

As I kind of view Dexter as an onion :joker:

Your a genius, you have inspired a new topic!

Which vegetable is which housemate! :dance:

[jet]

I fail to see where in the last 6 weeks Dexter has been picked on. He had that thing with Callum (and I was rooting for Dexter there btw) - but so did Hazel with Gina, and Wolfy with Gina, and Callum with Jackie and Charlie with Hazel etc etc. Very few have escaped with no conflict or being talked about.
Gina has been nasty and spiteful to many of the HM's, but not with Dexter.
Where are all these examples of people being awful to Dexter? I think the HM's don't trust him at all but they have been pretty accepting of him considering that fact.

[Kyle]

I fail to see where in the last 6 weeks Dexter has been picked on. He had that thing with Callum (and I was rooting for Dexter there btw) - but so did Hazel with Gina, and Wolfy with Gina, and Callum with Jackie and Charlie with Hazel etc etc. Very few have escaped with no conflict or being talked about.
Gina has been nasty and spiteful to many of the HM's, but not with Dexter.
Where are all these examples of people being awful to Dexter? I think the HM's don't trust him at all but they have been pretty accepting of him considering that fact.

The only thing I can honestly think of that would constitute proper bullying would be early on in the show with the face to face noms where everybody laid into him. That was harsh.

[kate2013]

I have no idea what this thread is about because I dont understand it, but in relation from my understanding
1) Charlie played rock paper scissors to go last. She did not go last by default. Therefore, in her mind she could only pick the lowest number, she chose £99,000, and leave the house. So no I dont think any of them would of clapped at Charlie leaving the house with £99,000 of the prize fund.

As for everything else I dont care if Dexter wins over the housemates or has a failed gameplan, and has his lies exposed. I feel I know more about him as a housemate than any of the others. He is a liar, he is a ridiculous dancer, he wears that onesie most if the time only washed once, his pre BB life is contraversial and immoral, he is self depricating, he is diverse, damaged, and the most interesting housemate in there. He is the worst person at deception because his lies and gameplan has been exposed for them reasons i trust him more than the others, I know what im getting with Dexter and he is entertaining. The others are so guarded and so busy at pointing fingers they will never be exposed, they fall flat as characters because they risk nothing. I am no fool everyone has a shadow side. Better the devil you know than the one you dont.

Dexter to win.

[jet]

The only thing I can honestly think of that would constitute proper bullying would be early on in the show with the face to face noms where everybody laid into him. That was harsh.

I agree that he had a hard time early on - which was of his own making.

[Tom4784]

He deserves the win more than anyone else, he's been ganged up on from Day 1 and has survived eviction almost every week and has outplayed everyone in the process.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He deserves the win more than anyone else, he's been ganged up on from Day 1 and has survived eviction almost every week and has outplayed everyone in the process.

They're still ganging up on him. But he's so strong even i'm shocked! :shocked:

[edemobong]

If he was honest through out like Gina was then he would stand a chance. From the beginnig Gina and Dexter where the most hated in the House. Why the whole House is more accepting and comfortable with Gina and not with Dexter is because Gina has been very honest and the housemates see this, but Dexter has been playing a very obvious game, he changes personality, says he would do one thing but does the other, says stuff but his actions dont match up with what he says. That is why people are more weary of him because he is a game player, even his supporters cannot disagree with that, and as a result he can never be trusted.

[the_answers]

1. Nothing. It's his "bad boy" image to take the money and my guess is, he knew he wouldn't get it. (or it was just a no lose scenario if he did). His whole gameplan was to go for broke as much as possible.

2. "in my opinion they would have turned on him, and the whole thing would somehow have ended up being his fault, and part of his gameplan." - agree.

3. "shouldnt have got involved in the first place(which I agree with)"
Well he wanted his "showmance" (even with Hazel) and who's to say it hasn't or won't help him ? Perhaps 99Kgate was the killer but he's not to know the public wouldn't LOVE him for being the loveable rogue. So much of people's success with the GBP depends how it's spun to the masses.

4. No and the reason is this. Sam's doing it because he thinks Dex is favourite to win and Dex isn't reacting because he thinks Sam ISN'T the favourte to win (after coming 3rd in the vote). So unfortunately Dex will see him as no threat but Sam, thinking he's got nothing to lose, may put his foot in it anyway as the favourite !

[JTM45]

Yes, he can Win, without a shadow of a doubt!!!!
Sadly though BB probably won't allow him or Gina to win. They want the bores like Sam (ultimate bore and non-contestant!) or the Twins (horrible pair of twats who just fake poor comedy skits!) to win obviously.:bored: