Re-living the twist again - be honest...

[the_answers]

Before it actually happened...

Were you expecting everyone was gonna take the highest possible amounts on offer ?

[Gusto Brunt]

Well because it wasn't live I knew the result before I saw it.:(

[Cherie]

No I was pretty sure Dexter was going to go low, but why the Twins got off scott free when they left higher amounts on the board I will never know. I really would like them to have been questioned about it.

[RichardG]

No I was pretty sure Dexter was going to go low, but why the Twins got off scott free when they left higher amounts on the board I will never know. I really would like them to have been questioned about it.

They would never question anyone other than Dexter. If the twins took £80,000, they would all be praising them and congratulating them. :joker:

[Cherie]

They would never question anyone other than Dexter. If the twins took £80,000, they would all be praising them and congratulating them. :joker:

ain't that the truth!

[the_answers]

but why the Twins got off scott free when they left higher amounts on the board I will never know.
Yeah did you see the woman on BBBOTS ? :laugh:

Did you notice Sam didn't question them over it too ?

[Bruteic]

I expected Sam to take the highest amount but I was unsure about Charlie.

If all the other HMs saw Jack & Joe both asking if they was actually going to get the money, I think the whole situation with Dexter would of been different.

[Brother Leon]

I was expecting the lowest to be about 40k as they would of realised someone would take the whole prize fund if they all went high.

[Withano]

No the #secretsandlies made them think twice about everything and ruined it. It would have been an interesting twist on every other series. Most people would have chose 10-50k.

[the_answers]

I was expecting the lowest to be about 40k as they would of realised someone would take the whole prize fund if they all went high.
Interesting point !

Yes makes you wonder what would have happened had they all gone highest and Charlie walked away with the £98,000 or so.

[Cherie]

Yeah did you see the woman on BBBOTS ? :laugh:

Did you notice Sam didn't question them over it too ?

Was away last week so didn't see any BBOTs will try and watch this week, what woman?

and that is what I meant, that Sam only questioned Dexter.

[the_answers]

Was away last week so didn't see any BBOTs will try and watch this week, what woman?
Oh just some woman in the audience made the point about the twins and she got booed and heckled for it.

and that is what I meant, that Sam only questioned Dexter.
Ah got you.

[Nedusa]

I agree , if you look again at the twist it does not follow that Dexter was the villain or that he deserved the aggro he got from Charlie and Sam.

First of all the order in which they went into the task room was chance and in theory the last person to go in should by rights pick the highest number left on the board (working on the assumption that the other 3 HM would have picked the highest 3 numbers ). This person would then be removed from the house with the money they had picked.

But the twins picked lower than 99K so they were possibly hoping they would be the lowest overall as I think there were still two higher amounts left AFTER the twins had picked.

Also , how did Dexter know what had actually been picked the numbers were random and for all he knew one of the other 2 HM may had already picked a lower number than the 88K he picked.

And finally he had no clue about the twist so didnt know he would be given immunity to final. I think Sam jumped on a "I hate Dexter" bandwagon to promote his own character. sadly though I think it backfired........

[the_answers]

And finally he had no clue about the twist so didnt know he would be given immunity to final.
Agree he had no idea about receiving immunity.

When he picked I think he wanted to stay.

[jet]

My goodness, why bother ? The whole country and it's mother knows by now Dexter was desperate to walk with the money. I expected the HM's to do much the same as they did.

[the_answers]

The whole country and it's mother knows by now Dexter was desperate to walk with the money.
Only those that haven't really thought about it.

I thought he did at first but now I get what he means.

Just find it a bit sad people think they know what's his motives were and judge him as the villain when he's the hero.

Have to say I was sucked in myself - it was brilliant ! :)

[jet]

Only those that haven't really thought about it.

I thought he did at first but now I get what he means.

Just find it a bit sad people think they know what's his motives were and judge him as the villain when he's the hero.

Have to say I was sucked in myself - it was brilliant ! :)

Yeah, in other words everyone is stupid but you. And it wasn't brilliant - he was caught out and made to look a plonker. :joker:

[Slevin]

Yeah, in other words everyone is stupid but you. And it wasn't brilliant - he was caught out and made to look a plonker. :joker:
agree. i dont see how anyone can say he didnt really know but there was 99k on the gd wall. he claims he didnt see it after he said he looked at all the numbers but then that was the only one he didnt see. oh i see they put that back up there for Charlie so we never really seen 99k on the wall. it was CGI. ok got it.:joker:

[Cherie]

agree. i dont see how anyone can say he didnt really know but there was 99k on the gd wall. he claims he didnt see it after he said he looked at all the numbers but then that was the only one he didnt see. oh i see they put that back up there for Charlie so we never really seen 99k on the wall. it was CGI. ok got it.:joker:

yeah I get all that, but that 99,000 was also there when the twins walked in, and there are 2 of them so I don't understand why Dexter is the only villian, the twins went low also, and left at least 2 amounts on the board that the 2 remaining should in theory have taken (thereby making them the lowest) so are they not more culpable than Dexter as they actually left it open to the two following to pick higher amounts than them?

[Slevin]

i agree about the Twins. i made a post about it the day or so after when i was playing catch up and said how they were hoping Charlie and Dex were gonna pick the other two above that number. i got why they went on Dex though since hes been the most sketchy in the house even though they should have been brought up on it as well.

[Jords]

I would have took a shot at £30K.

I think their stupid to pass up on grabbing some free money. Shouldnt be over £50K no fair on the winner. Well tbh, I dont like prize fund twists in general.

[the_answers]

Yeah, in other words everyone is stupid but you.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he wanted to stay.

[jet]

yeah I get all that, but that 99,000 was also there when the twins walked in, and there are 2 of them so I don't understand why Dexter is the only villian, the twins went low also, and left at least 2 amounts on the board that the 2 remaining should in theory have taken (thereby making them the lowest) so are they not more culpable than Dexter as they actually left it open to the two following to pick higher amounts than them?

The twins had 2 people to go after them and one of them was Dexter, who most of the HM's didn't trust. They had no way of knowing what either he or Charlie would pick.
When Dexter came in there were at least 2 amounts higher than the twins still on the board. He had a choice of 99k and 98,225 that we know of. If he had picked the higher number, and Charlie had picked the lower, or vice versa, the twins would have been the lowest (and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
Being so close to Charlie, it's almost certain he knew that Charlie wouldn't want to walk with the money and would pick one of the highest amounts. He picked an amount in the 80's, which no one else had done and would assure him of the lowest. Guilty as charged. Case closed.

[the_answers]

agree. i dont see how anyone can say he didnt really know but there was 99k on the gd wall.
Like he said, he wasn't looking for it.

he claims he didnt see it after he said he looked at all the numbers but then that was the only one he didnt see. oh i see they put that back up there for Charlie so we never really seen 99k on the wall. it was CGI. ok got it.:joker:
I wouldn't get bogged down with his dodgy explanations tbh.

Look at it this way - he probably knew Sam wanted to stay, he probably thought the twins wanted to stay (ok was a shock) but he KNEW Charlie wanted to stay.

Had he (and everyone) gone highest possible, Charlie would have gone !

So what is he meant to do ?

Remember, he said to Charlie he thought she was gonna take £1.

[jet]

Like he said, he wasn't looking for it.


I wouldn't get bogged down with his dodgy explanations tbh.

Look at it this way - he probably knew Sam wanted to stay, he probably thought the twins wanted to stay (ok was a shock) but he KNEW Charlie wanted to stay.

Had he (and everyone) gone highest possible, Charlie would have gone !

So what is he meant to do ?

Remember, he said to Charlie he thought she was gonna take £1.

Remember he said he picked his lucky numbers.
Remember he said he didn't see the 99k (or the other amount apparently)
Remember he said he 'errr....umm I just did it'
Remember he said....(another one I can't recall right now)

So which one is it?
Answer: None of them, he just wanted the dosh.

[the_answers]

(and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
So you're saying Dex should have known the twins wanted to take the money and go ?
Case closed my arse !

[the_answers]

Like you said yourself before jet


Had he (and everyone) gone highest possible, Charlie would have gone !

So what is he meant to do then ?
Answer me that.

You're saying he should have known the twins would pick lower than highest possible ?
Bull**** !

[Slevin]

lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe. he didnt. not that hard to understand he was trying to be sly about it. well he got his 2nd wish at least so thats done.

[jet]

So you're saying Dex should have known the twins wanted to take the money and go ?
Case closed my arse !

Where did I say that? I said that Joe had been going on about wanting to go home that week, (which all the HM's heard). I don't for one second think Dexter would have been thinking of anyone but himself.

Anyway, I'm going to the gym now, so good luck everyone for tonight! We'll just have to accept the public's winner, whoever it may be. Enjoy the show! :xyxwave:

[jet]

Like you said yourself before jet



So what is he meant to do then ?
Answer me that.

You're saying he should have known the twins would pick lower than highest possible ?
Bull**** !

I don't get what you mean. He seen there were 2 numbers higher than 96k on the board, no matter who had picked what. If you still can't work it out, I despair. I'm away. Bye!

[Jesus.]

Someone offers you the chance to earn tens of thousands of pounds for 30 seconds walk, and you need to do is leave a game show?

This forum must be full of homeless people, with the complete lack of motivation to earn money.

What a bastard Dexter is. Anything over 50k was never going to be allowed to stand, and certainly a prize fund of 12k.

If Dexter seriously though 88k would give him a chance of walking away with it, then he's stupid.

[the_answers]

Running away are you jet ?

You said:
When Dexter came in there were at least 2 amounts higher than the twins still on the board. He had a choice of 99k and 98,225 that we know of. If he had picked the higher number, and Charlie had picked the lower, or vice versa, the twins would have been the lowest (and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)

Q, Do you think Dex should have known the twins wouldn't pick the highest ?

Yes or no.

Cos that's what "and Joe desperately wanted to go that week." seems to imply.

Anyway you go and I'll made the point again without your confused theories.

[Jimrod]

If Dexter really is a gambler (who knows what he says is truth any more) he chose an amount most likely to get him big returns. If another housemate chose under 50k then he could win more by winning the show (a gambler always expects to win). If the other housemates wanted the cash they would most likely go for as high an amount as they could get away with presuming others had chosen the highest amounts possible to stay in the show - this is what the twins did. Dexter bid high enough for large returns but low enough to likely be under the others.

Nothing to do with knowing twists or lucky numbers but simple gambling odds. He wanted the cash (as did the twins).

[the_answers]

Point is, Dex assumed ALL the others would pick highest possible.

[Ok twins didn't but he picked a LOWER number anyway so makes no difference.]

So given he knew Charlie wanted to STAY, how could he have picked the highest possible ?

Charlie would have gone and he knew she didn't want that.

So there you go...

He did it for the woman he loved, not for himself.

[the_answers]

but low enough to likely be under the others.
Yeah, so they could all stay and not leave the BB house.

[Cherie]

The twins had 2 people to go after them and one of them was Dexter, who most of the HM's didn't trust. They had no way of knowing what either he or Charlie would pick.
When Dexter came in there were at least 2 amounts higher than the twins still on the board. He had a choice of 99k and 98,225 that we know of. If he had picked the higher number, and Charlie had picked the lower, or vice versa, the twins would have been the lowest (and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
Being so close to Charlie, it's almost certain he knew that Charlie wouldn't want to walk with the money and would pick one of the highest amounts. He picked an amount in the 80's, which no one else had done and would assure him of the lowest. Guilty as charged. Case closed.

I know all that, jeez, my point is why just pick on just Dexter, the twins had no idea what the two in after them would do but deliberately left two amounts higher than the one they took, coincidence?

[Ellen]

lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe. he didnt. not that hard to understand he was trying to be sly about it. well he got his 2nd wish at least so thats done.

:thumbs: Exactly, he was trying to be sly & got caught.

[Indy]

I would have took a shot at £30K.

I think their stupid to pass up on grabbing some free money. Shouldnt be over £50K no fair on the winner. Well tbh, I dont like prize fund twists in general.

And that seems more in line with what Dexter said in the room. Common sense says most of them would do a little math, figure out their odds of winning vs the rest of the pack, then choose a number low enough that it won't have them hated on the outside (the 20-40k range).

I suspect that's exactly how it would've played out, too, if any 2 of the others were replaced with Sophie and Gina. Instead he had the twins who overstrategized, Sam who was so cocky he was making sure he was there to win whatever was left, and Charlie who is lucky she can think enough to dress herself each day.

[the_answers]

lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe.
That's assuming he was putting HIMSELF first though.

[Jimrod]

Yeah, so they could all stay and not leave the BB house.

No, I know you're blinded by love for the man but he went for the money. I'm a good poker player and I'd have done exactly as he did if I was after the money, no hero act to keep everyone in going on here, just greed and there's nothing wrong with that in a gameshow, just a shame he couldn't man up and admit it. He would have had a lot more respect and support from people had he done so.

[the_answers]

So you're saying he should have gone highest possible putting himself before the wishes of others ?

Anyway I better dash myself, will come back later...

All I'll say is I was the same as you (and a poker player too) and was completely convinced myself he took the money.

I think it's just like he said "I took a risk"

Given what he said and did, I'll leave you to ponder what the risk(s) might have been.

[DoM-h]

Nah I didn't expect them to.

I remember thinking 'I'd take 50k' when reading about the task.

[Marmalite]

The twins wouldn't have lied about their decision it's not in there nature.

There was only 1 amount higher than the 96k the twins took therefore it was obvious that someone would pick higher or Dexter and/or Charlie would pick lower.

Dexter shouldn't have given so many pathetic lies as to why he chose 88k and not the highest amount of 99k. If he'd owned up and said "**** yeah, I wanted to walk out with 88k" he would've won a lot more support. But as usual devious Dexter showed his true colours and attempted to lie his way out.

He gave different reasons as to why he chose a lower amount that what was available on the board and these ranged from he didn't see the 99k to thinking there was a twist to thought someone would be selfless and take the £1 (even though it was only Charlie after him and the £1 was staring right in the face) and then outside later told Gina he was undecided between the 44k and the 88k. She was the one that said 8 is your lucky number so it makes sense to take that amount not Dexter. Dexter agreed and probably kicked himself that he hadn't thought of that himself.

It was said in week 1: "All he talks about his himself" and "He's only in it for the money" and it was proven 100% in the last week that both of those accusations were absolutely correct and completely spot on!

[Jimrod]

If I thought his feelings were real for Charlie I'd be open to there being other reasons for him taking that amount, but I haven't "felt" anything behind the words he's said to her (extending my dislike for him as I think he's playing a game with someone's emotions). I guess we'll never know for sure but I personally think he's looking at this whole thing financially and making as much from it as possible at anyone's expense from various things he's said throughout the series - he'd probably marry Charlie for an OK magazine payout!

Anyway, enjoy your day! I'm going to carry on with my Holiday in New York now the lady has woken up! :D

[Nedusa]

To be fair all the HM are seasoned BB game players and know most if not all of the previous BB prize fund twists. They would surely know that BB would not allow any HM to walk away with nearly all the prize fund. So knowing that if all HM picked amounts very high (in order to stay in the BB House) the last one to pick would in theory be picking the highest amount of the amounts left, but that would still be in the 90k+ range.

So that would only leave a prize fund of less than 10K...??? No way would BB let that happen as they would have to at least offer a similar amount to the eventual winner.

No the reality is no one was going to pick low and as such the bulk of the prize money would had to have been given way. This was never going to happen and the HM must have surely known this and assumed there was another twist at the end.

Someone could have picked 50K in the hope that BB would honour the task and let them leave but as we know they all picked high so this twist was never going to be honoured.

I think Dexter perhaps thought he would try and hedge his bets by picking low but not too low in case shock of shocks BB did honour the task. But I still think this task was too suspicious and the HM probably knew this and picked high to stay in the show.