maybe the welsh are just nicer ?

[thegatfather]

I know generalising has been banned by political correctness, but we do it for the 300 million americans, why not the 3 million Welsh?

The welsh housemates, always seem to send in very nice consistent housemates, yes some have been dull at times. But overall very solid decent people.

They could well continue to dominate the show unless the other nations up their game.

Game playing is dead. The best way forward for potential winners, is yes to be entertaining, funny, eccentric, probably a hard luck story, but bulimia and eating disorders I suspect people have got bored of hearing about. but not to have a see through shallow game plan that can be worked out in 5 minutes.

In the case of sam. he didn't have a game plan other than to be himself. Although his joke skills were a clever trick to have in the bag. The only real strategy is to be yourself without revealing yourself totally. Sounds simple its not that easy for 10 weeks with cameras watching everything.

well done sam, worthy winner this year imo.

[karezza]

Stop generalising!

[Niamh.]

lol I'm sure there are loads of very nice Welsh people but I'm also sure there are loads of very horrible Welsh people too, the Producers imo are just picking very similar people (or people with a similar temperament) for some strange reason

[karezza]

I perceive Rachel Rice and Sam Evans as two of the most horrible housemates in Big Brother history.

[thegatfather]

I perceive Rachel Rice and Sam Evans as two of the most horrible housemates in Big Brother history.

yea sure you do:joker:

[karezza]

yea sure you do:joker:

They are both fake nice and neither has a personality.:joker:

[thegatfather]

lol I'm sure there are loads of very nice Welsh people but I'm also sure there are loads of very horrible Welsh people too, the Producers imo are just picking very similar people (or people with a similar temperament) for some strange reason

different places have different cultures. the welsh culture seems quite conservative to me. this is why these housemates are quite conservative and have clear values and boundaries of behaviour beyond which they wont go. I believe this is undoubtedly true of the welsh housemates over these 12 years or so.

[Cherie]

I know generalising has been banned by political correctness, but we do it for the 300 million americans, why not the 3 million Welsh?

The welsh housemates, always seem to send in very nice consistent housemates, yes some have been dull at times. But overall very solid decent people.

They could well continue to dominate the show unless the other nations up their game.

Game playing is dead. The best way forward for potential winners, is yes to be entertaining, funny, eccentric, probably a hard luck story, but bulimia and eating disorders I suspect people have got bored of hearing about. but not to have a see through shallow game plan that can be worked out in 5 minutes.

In the case of sam. he didn't have a game plan other than to be himself. Although his joke skills were a clever trick to have in the bag. The only real strategy is to be yourself without revealing yourself totally. Sounds simple its not that easy for 10 weeks with cameras watching everything.

well done sam, worthy winner this year imo.


I beg to differ, he did have a gameplan which he admitted to which was to keep his head down. He said this himself so it is not speculation. Also as soon as Vanessa Feltz said he was boring, he managed to jump of the fence, confront Dexter about numerous things that didn't really concern him, and declare his feelings for Gina, so I really don't think with hand on heart you can say he didn't have a gameplan, but he won and good luck to him.

[thegatfather]

I beg to differ, he did have a gameplan which he admitted to which was to keep his head down. He said this himself so it is not speculation. Also as soon as Vanessa Feltz said he was boring, he managed to jump of the fence, confront Dexter about numerous things that didn't really concern him, and declare his feelings for Gina, so I really don't think with hand on heart you can say he didn't have a gameplan, but he won and good luck to him.

keeping your head down is not a gameplan its a way of life, everyone does that at times simply to survive and get on with life. as for Vanessa feltz she is a prize dickhead

[Cherie]

different places have different cultures. the welsh culture seems quite conservative to me. this is why these housemates are quite conservative and have clear values and boundaries of behaviour beyond which they wont go. I believe this is undoubtedly true of the welsh housemates over these 12 years or so.


What? you will be declaring the Welsh nation as Saints next. :joker:

[Cherie]

keeping your head down is not a gameplan its a way of life, everyone does that at times simply to survive and get on with life. as for Vanessa feltz she is a prize dickhead



She told the truth, Sam was stung by it and immediately changed his strategy.

[Niamh.]

different places have different cultures. the welsh culture seems quite conservative to me. this is why these housemates are quite conservative and have clear values and boundaries of behaviour beyond which they wont go. I believe this is undoubtedly true of the welsh housemates over these 12 years or so.

I disagree, there are nice and not so nice people in every culture, it's a bit silly to generalize a whole nation of people like that and tbqh I would be offended if I were Welsh to be called nice but bland lol

[DanaC]

I beg to differ, he did have a gameplan which he admitted to which was to keep his head down. He said this himself so it is not speculation. Also as soon as Vanessa Feltz said he was boring, he managed to jump of the fence, confront Dexter about numerous things that didn't really concern him, and declare his feelings for Gina, so I really don't think with hand on heart you can say he didn't have a gameplan, but he won and good luck to him.

he'd already challenged Dexter a number of times before Vanessa Feltz made her comment.

I seem to recall a bunch of people on here complaining about the way he was being 'aggressive' towards dexter at the time.

People have such short memories and seemingly selective blindness.



Also: the business about him declaring his true feelings for Gina. Gina's response when asked about it during the exit interview was that 'everybody knew' that he fancied her. He clearly waited until the end of the show to voice it (under the influence of alcohol) because to do so earlier would have created discomfort within the house. As he said, she has a boyfriend - not like anything would happen, nor would he have wanted to push it, given he's a decent lad (that's my reading of it anyway). So, everybody knew it, yet we saw very little about that in the HL shows.

[Raph]

perfect thread :worship:

[Cherie]

he'd already challenged Dexter a number of times before Vanessa Feltz made her comment.

I seem to recall a bunch of people on here complaining about the way he was being 'aggressive' towards dexter at the time.

People have such short memories and seemingly selective blindness.

Yes he had said he thought Dexter was rude on one occasion, and then there was the confrontation after he had seen some footage which was BB manufactured, both situations involved his feelings towards Dexter which was fine, but after the VF thing he decided to bring up the row after F and F noms and Dexter girlfriend which had nothing to do with him really, and as for revealing his feelings for Gina well...:joker:

[Cherie]

perfect thread :worship:

ha ha you would say that!

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm sure there are very nice people in Wales. :)

Such a pity Lager Lout Sam isn't one of them, eh?

[Vanessa]

Sam and nice don't go in the same sentence. He's an arrogant tosser.

[Kyle]

The welsh are great people and far from boring.


Proud to live beside them in the British Isles. :dance:

[thegatfather]

The welsh are great people and far from boring.


Proud to live beside them in the British Isles. :dance:

Sheffield folks are too nice too:joker: lol

[LikeABoatOnWater]

If we are allowed to generalize then im going to generalize that the welsh are all boring twats who do nothing but sleep.

[Kyle]

Sheffield folks are too nice too:joker: lol

I agree although I actually live on the border and more in Rotherham lol. Just put Sheffield cos its easier lol.

[Kyle]

If we are allowed to generalize then im going to generalize that the welsh are all boring twats who do nothing but sleep.

That's fine I don't think anybody would get offended by that. They would have to care about your opinion first...

[thegatfather]

If we are allowed to generalize then im going to generalize that the welsh are all boring twats who do nothing but sleep.

and everyone from your gaffe is an attention seeker zzzzzz:sleep:

[Jords]

Maybe but I dont see why people are concentrating on nationality.

Luke A should have never won despite him being a nice guy. His 2 teammates were in the final - Deana, one of my favourite female HMs, and Adam, an even nicer guy who offered a little bit more in my opinion. The only reason he got the win is because he is transgender.

[thegatfather]

Maybe but I dont see why people are concentrating on nationality.

Luke A should have never won despite him being a nice guy. His 2 teammates were in the final - Deana, one of my favourite female HMs, and Adam, an even nicer guy who offered a little bit more in my opinion. The only reason he got the win is because he is transgender.

differne places have different culture which produce different types of people, different values, different mind sets etc some nations for example who are used to being oppressed find it harder for their individuals to rise up and seize control and lead their nations. every nation has a different culture, every place too. wales especially has a culture of its own and is generally more conservative in its value system.

[reece(:]

http://pictures.thisisbigbrother.com/BB8/2/big_brother_8-day2-019.jpg

[thegatfather]

http://pictures.thisisbigbrother.com/BB8/2/big_brother_8-day2-019.jpg

pls don't tell me you look like that

[RichardG]

Watch an episode of The Valleys then come back and say that :joker:

[Kyle]

Watch an episode of The Valleys then come back and say that :joker:

Geordie Shore?

Only way is Essex?

Made in Chelsea?

You could pick elements from all cultures but in general the Welsh are good, decent honest people like in all parts of the U.K and I've never been to the R.O.I but I'm sure they are fantastic people in general too.

[reece(:]

pls don't tell me you look like that
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[MrWong]

pls don't tell me you look like that

She was another boring hm from Wales.

[RichardG]

Geordie Shore?

Only way is Essex?

Made in Chelsea?

You could pick elements from all cultures but in general the Welsh are good, decent honest people like in all parts of the U.K and I've never been to the R.O.I but I'm sure they are fantastic people in general too.

Exactly, the Welsh are no different to any other country. There's good people and there's bad people. Which is why this thread is silly :joker:

[thegatfather]

Exactly, the Welsh are no different to any other country. There's good people and there's bad people. Which is why this thread is silly :joker:

yet we English love to generalize about the French, the americans, the germans, the aussies when it suits us?

[Kyle]

yet we English love to generalize about the French, the americans, the germans, the aussies when it suits us?

That's got nothing to do with how nice we think they are, it's playground banter.

Them calling us limey's or Nigel's or pom's doesn't bother me at all.

99% of English people know that all those nationalities have a majority of good people in them.

[thegatfather]

there are different cultures in different places. otherwise why does every city, town, village, anthem, audience, etc etc etc have an atmosphere and a culture all of its own....I reject the paul McCartney claim people are the same wherever you go....people are different wherever you go....yes you give everyone a chance and never prejudge, but different places do have different cultures, different value system, different work ethics, different everything. wales has its own culture, which is totally lost on the English. similarly the scots have a totally different culture based on a totally different education system. overall the scots are vastly more worldly wise and knowledgeable overall than the other 3 UK nations.

[Kyle]

there are different cultures in different places. otherwise why does every city, town, village, anthem, audience, etc etc etc have an atmosphere and a culture all of its own....I reject the paul McCartney claim people are the same wherever you go....people are different wherever you go....yes you give everyone a chance and never prejudge, but different places do have different cultures, different value system, different work ethics, different everything. wales has its own culture, which is totally lost on the English. similarly the scots have a totally different culture based on a totally different education system. overall the scots are vastly more worldly wise and knowledgeable overall than the other 3 UK nations.

Aye ok then yet you prejudice the English by saying the Welsh culture is lost on us and we aren't as worldly wise as the Scots, despite being the main instigator in a worldwide empire..


Does the St. George's flag offend you? Are you ashamed to be one of us?

[thegatfather]

Aye ok then yet you prejudice the English by saying the Welsh culture is lost on us and we aren't as worldly wise as the Scots, despite being the main instigator in a worldwide empire..


Does the St. George's flag offend you? Are you ashamed to be one of us?

no I respect all nations flags. the welsh culture is lost on the English and the scots are better educated than the welsh irish and English. why are you saying only England are offended by the scots having a better education system?

[Kyle]

no I respect all nations flags. the welsh culture is lost on the English and the scots are better educated than the welsh irish and English. why are you saying only England are offended by the scots having a better education system?

Because I'm not Welsh or Northern Irish so I can't be outraged for them.


I am half Scottish though and I wouldn't particularly see them as better educated than any of my English family, in fact a lot of them are regularly at odds with the law.

I won't go and say though that the Scots are more troublesome cos I'm not like that...

[thegatfather]

Because I'm not Welsh or Northern Irish so I can't be outraged for them.


I am half Scottish though and I wouldn't particularly see them as better educated than any of my English family, in fact a lot of them are regularly at odds with the law.

I won't go and say though that the Scots are more troublesome cos I'm not like that...

well its a pretty well known fact the scots education system is better than in wales England and Ireland. I wait to see if that offends other nationalities?

[thegatfather]

Because I'm not Welsh or Northern Irish so I can't be outraged for them.


I am half Scottish though and I wouldn't particularly see them as better educated than any of my English family, in fact a lot of them are regularly at odds with the law.

I won't go and say though that the Scots are more troublesome cos I'm not like that...

being as you seem to think you understand welsh culture explain some of welsh history and culture to me please?

[karezza]

being as you seem to think you understand welsh culture explain some of welsh history and culture to me please?

Wales = singing, sheep, rugby, a dead language and a mountain.:wavey:

[Kyle]

being as you seem to think you understand welsh culture explain some of welsh history and culture to me please?

I would understand it I wanted to live there, I don't understand Mayan culture or the Mongols or the ancient feudal systems of the Japanese doesn't mean all my fellow countrymen are.

And why do I specifically need to understand Welsh culture?

[thegatfather]

I would understand it I wanted to live there, I don't understand Mayan culture or the Mongols or the ancient feudal systems of the Japanese doesn't mean all my fellow countrymen are.

And why do I specifically need to understand Welsh culture?

you claimed you were offended by the suggestion you or the englsh didn't understand welsh culture. clearly you don't so why get offended by the suggestion?

[karezza]

you claimed you were offended by the suggestion you or the englsh didn't understand welsh culture. clearly you don't so why get offended by the suggestion?

How to be Scottish: 1. Eat deep fried Mars Bars.
2. Wear a skirt
3. Hunt Haggis
4. Believe in the Loch Ness Monster
5. Blame everything on England
6. Speak unintelligibly
7. Enjoy bagpipe noise
8. Say "Och aye the noo"
9. Drink nothing but whisky
10. Enjoy dreek weather

[Livia]

yet we English love to generalize about the French, the americans, the germans, the aussies when it suits us?

Fortunately, no one generalises about the English. Do they.

[Kyle]

you claimed you were offended by the suggestion you or the englsh didn't understand welsh culture. clearly you don't so why get offended by the suggestion?

You said 'the English' and made it look like it was a bad thing.

I am not 'the English' I am an 'Englishman' and what I do or do not know about another culture does not represent the rest of my country.

[thegatfather]

Fortunately, no one generalises about the English. Do they.

I presume your being sarcastic (lowest form of wit) and yes everyone gets generalized about and there is usually at least some truth to the caricatures

[thegatfather]

You said 'the English' and made it look like it was a bad thing.

I am not 'the English' I am an 'Englishman' and what I do or do not know about another culture does not represent the rest of my country.

generally the English do not understand welsh culture, no doubt because much of what is taught is so different in the welsh and English education systems

[Kyle]

Fortunately, no one generalises about the English. Do they.

Seems nowadays that everything negative about England is fair game as if we are personally responsible for the misdeeds of the past and that every other nation has a squeaky clean record.

[Niamh.]

Enough already, I'll settle this by saying the Irish are clearly better than everyone else. End of Story.

[Kyle]

generally the English do not understand welsh culture, no doubt because much of what is taught is so different in the welsh and English education systems

Oh no I guess that makes us stupid. Never mind though we could always ask the Scots about Welsh culture as they are clearly the pinnacle of intellectualism...

[thegatfather]

Seems nowadays that everything negative about England is fair game as if we are personally responsible for the misdeeds of the past and that every other nation has a squeaky clean record.

imagine how the americans feel when the English blame them for everything...ive barely ever met any English man or woman who hasn't used the phrase loud mouth americans....

[Livia]

I presume your being sarcastic (lowest form of wit) and yes everyone gets generalized about and there is usually at least some truth to the caricatures

When you learn to use a capital letter somewhere in your posts, then you get to criticise my wit. Until then you can keep your thoughts to yourself.

As far as I can see, the only person in this thread throwing around massive generalisations is you.

[Kyle]

Enough already, I'll settle this by saying the Irish are clearly better than everyone else. End of Story.

Anybody who can make the number 3 sound like another name for a very large plant doesn't deserve to be better.. :p

[thegatfather]

Oh no I guess that makes us stupid. Never mind though we could always ask the Scots about Welsh culture as they are clearly the pinnacle of intellectualism...

I didn't say intellectualism, no need to get sarcastic and bitter. but yes the scots would on average know and understand more. clearly from your responses you know nothing of the nation you earlier claimed to like, rather patronisingly. nice try though:pat:

[thegatfather]

Fortunately, no one generalises about the English. Do they.

If you want to avoid the real issue and become witless and pedantic, perhaps you should put a question mark at the end of your question.

[Kyle]

imagine how the americans feel when the English blame them for everything...ive barely ever met any English man or woman who hasn't used the phrase loud mouth americans....

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01405/flag_1405824c.jpg



A thing of beauty she is.....

[Livia]

I didn't say intellectualism, no need to get sarcastic and bitter. but yes the scots would on average know and understand more. clearly from your responses you know nothing of the nation you earlier claimed to like, rather patronisingly. nice try though:pat:


Stop trolling. You've clearly come here to have a cheap pop at the English and it's making you look quite silly.

[Livia]

If you want to avoid the real issue and become witless and pedantic, perhaps you should put a question mark at the end of your question.

It was rhetorical. There was no need for a question mark. Genius.

[thegatfather]

Stop trolling. You've clearly come here to have a cheap pop at the English and it's making you look quite silly.

You're trolling avoiding the topic and becoming witless and pedantic.
The behaviour of the welsh housemates has been far superior to that of other UK nations over the years.

[Kyle]

I didn't say intellectualism, no need to get sarcastic and bitter. but yes the scots would on average know and understand more. clearly from your responses you know nothing of the nation you earlier claimed to like, rather patronisingly. nice try though:pat:

I like Welsh people I'm sorry I don't know who their king or whatever was in 856 A.D.


I like the Greeks too but maybe I should drop that am I'm not clued up on their culture too.

[Natalie.]

Nah, they're just like the rest of us..

[thegatfather]

It was rhetorical. There was no need for a question mark. Genius.

There is still a need, you are incorrect. You're far from genius lol.

[Kyle]

You're trolling avoiding the topic and becoming witless and pedantic.
The behaviour of the welsh housemates has been far superior to that of other UK nations over the years.

So now we are coming to the crux of the matter, your country is better than mine..



Good for you but I don't care what you think.

[thegatfather]

I like Welsh people I'm sorry I don't know who their king or whatever was in 856 A.D.


I like the Greeks too but maybe I should drop that am I'm not clued up on their culture too.

Glad you now acknowledge what you should have said at the start, that is you know nothing of Welsh culture, like so many of your fellow countrymen. yet get offended by this suggestion, despite it being true. That I'm afraid is pride and ego getting in the way of your learning.

[Livia]

You're trolling avoiding the topic and becoming witless and pedantic.
The behaviour of the welsh housemates has been far superior to that of other UK nations over the years.


What exactly IS the topic? You're going to insult people unless they agree that Welsh people have been the best housemates?

There are over eight million people living in London. Only three million living in Wales. The Welsh are over represented.

[Livia]

Glad you now acknowledge what you should have said at the start, that is you know nothing of Welsh culture, like so many of your fellow countrymen. yet get offended by this suggestion, despite it being true. That I'm afraid is pride and ego getting in the way of your learning.

Another anti-English rant.

[Kyle]

Glad you now acknowledge what you should have said at the start, that is you know nothing of Welsh culture, like so many of your fellow countrymen. yet get offended by this suggestion, despite it being true. That I'm afraid is pride and ego getting in the way of your learning.

:joker:

Pathetic, keep your bitter hatred amongst yourselves. Proud to be English and proud of the Welsh too. You won't change that.

[Livia]

There is still a need, you are incorrect. You're far from genius lol.

Either way is correct.

I'll match my education and qualifications to yours any day of the week.

[thegatfather]

What exactly IS the topic? You're going to insult people unless they agree that Welsh people have been the best housemates?

There are over eight million people living in London. Only three million living in Wales. The Welsh are over represented.

Put your ego down and re-read the thread. Instead of charging in with petty witless sarcasm. How many Welsh housemates have there been? Not many. But they have still won 3 shows. And after 12 years or so we can see a correlation in behaviour patterns in different parts of the UK. In this case wales and welsh housemates have overall been more consistent and better behaved. if that offends you I do not apologise. perhaps you need to see past the narrow confines of your own ego.

[Livia]

Put your ego down and re-read the thread. Instead of charging in with petty witless sarcasm. How many Welsh housemates have there been? Not many. But they have still won 3 shows. And after 12 years or so we can see a correlation in behaviour patterns in different parts of the UK. In this case wales and welsh housemates have overall been more consistent and better behaved. if that offends you I do not apologise. perhaps you need to see past the narrow confines of your own ego.

Haha... you're so angry.

Imogen. She was great, wasn't she? A really virtuous example of Welsh womanhood.

[thegatfather]

Either way is correct.

I'll match my education and qualifications to yours any day of the week.

Yet another trite trivial petty egotistical point. My house is bigger than your house. I genuinely pity you for your shallow responses. Cleary you want to avoid the topic and derail the thread as you have no argument and no knowledge of this subject. PS IF you do have an education, clearly it was wasted on you as you're social skills are non-existent.

[thegatfather]

Haha... you're so angry.

Imogen. She was great, wasn't she? A really virtuous example of Welsh womanhood.

She was the worst of the welsh lot, but even she behaved reasonably in the house.

[Livia]

Yet another trite trivial petty egotistical point. My house is bigger than your house. I genuinely pity you for your shallow responses. Cleary you want to avoid the topic and derail the thread as you have no argument and no knowledge of this subject. PS IF you do have an education, clearly it was wasted on you as you're social skills are non-existent.

My house is definitely bigger than your house.

Your style seems very familiar to me. Who were you last time you were trolling on here?

[Kyle]

Either way is correct.

I'll match my education and qualifications to yours any day of the week.

Why are we even wasting our time? :conf:

[Livia]

She was the worst of the welsh lot, but even she behaved reasonably in the house.

She made up for lost time when she got out though, didn't she. So I reject your claim about the Welsh. My experience is that you get an equal number of idiots wherever you go.

[thegatfather]

Why are we even wasting our time? :conf:

I agree give this one up. The Welsh housemates have been superior in action and deed. Clearly they have stronger values than their counterparts from the rest of the UK.

[Livia]

Why are we even wasting our time? :conf:

Because it amuses me to poke the troll... Up to a point. Kind of bored with it now though.

[Kyle]

I agree give this one up. The Welsh housemates have been superior in action and deed. Clearly they have stronger values than their counterparts from the rest of the UK.

Obviously if you were in the house the opinion of Welsh people would change given your haughty, superior manner.

[Livia]

Obviously if you were in the house the opinion of Welsh people would change given your haughty, superior manner.

You're quite right SM, on the whole I really quite like Wales and the Welsh. It's whiney flag-wavers I can't stand...

[thegatfather]

She made up for lost time when she got out though, didn't she. So I reject your claim about the Welsh. My experience is that you get an equal number of idiots wherever you go.

I think you are 100% wrong. Go to downtown Krakov or Kabul or frankly anywhere and each place is different as is its people and its culture. Different places have different culture and different sets of values. To claim everywhere is much the same , when everywhere is in fact different with 1000s of years of different history, culture and values is absurd. This is partly where the british empire went pear shaped. we thought everyone thought like us and that we could impose our values on others. well we couldn't and we cant. Everywhere is different and we should learn to respect those differences not patronise cultures and ignore other ways of thinking.

[karezza]

I think you are 100% wrong. Go to downtown Krakov or Kabul or frankly anywhere and each place is different as is its people and its culture. Different places have different culture and different sets of values. To claim everywhere is much the same , when everywhere is in fact different with 1000s of years of different history, culture and values is absurd. This is partly where the british empire went pear shaped. we thought everyone thought like us and that we could impose our values on others. well we couldn't and we cant. Everywhere is different and we should learn to respect those differences not patronise cultures and ignore other ways of thinking.

Life is a whole - division is created by mind.:xyxwave:

[Livia]

I think you are 100% wrong. Go to downtown Krakov or Kabul or frankly anywhere and each place is different as is its people and its culture. Different places have different culture and different sets of values. To claim everywhere is much the same , when everywhere is in fact different with 1000s of years of different history, culture and values is absurd. This is partly where the british empire went pear shaped. we thought everyone thought like us and that we could impose our values on others. well we couldn't and we cant. everywhere is different and we should learn to respect those differences not patronised culture and ignore other ways of thinking.

Actually, my family only came to England after the war. None of us had anything to do with the Empire and my family are still scattered across several countries. I've lived and worked in a few countries too, including the USA.

What I meant about people all being the same has nothing to do with their culture. People are people are people... some good, some bad.

[Niamh.]

Anybody who can make the number 3 sound like another name for a very large plant doesn't deserve to be better.. :p

Our tongues are not designed for that sound, there is no such sound as gaeilge :idc:

[Kyle]

I think you are 100% wrong. Go to downtown Krakov or Kabul or frankly anywhere and each place is different as is its people and its culture. Different places have different culture and different sets of values. To claim everywhere is much the same , when everywhere is in fact different with 1000s of years of different history, culture and values is absurd. This is partly where the british empire went pear shaped. we thought everyone thought like us and that we could impose our values on others. well we couldn't and we cant. Everywhere is different and we should learn to respect those differences not patronise cultures and ignore other ways of thinking.

Take a leaf out of your own book why don't you..

Me and Livia have had nought but praise for the Welsh, you seem to have a skewered vision of us though not that I'll cry myself to sleep over it mind...

[Kyle]

Our tongues are not designed for that sound, there is no such sound as gaeilge :idc:

I want to ask what your tongues are designed for but I fear It may get taken the wrong way :joker:

[thegatfather]

Take a leaf out of your own book why don't you..

Me and Livia have had nought but praise for the Welsh, you seem to have a skewered vision of us though not that I'll cry myself to sleep over it mind...

You're allright. But there is stupendous levels of ignorance in England which the masses are hopelessly unaware of. the masses simply are not educated enough in the culture of their fellow UK nations. Does anyone really know how we managed to rule the waves?

[karezza]

You're allright. But there is stupendous levels of ignorance in England which the masses are hopelessly unaware of. the masses simply are not educated enough in the culture of their fellow UK nations. Does anyone really know how we managed to rule the waves?

Culture is insanity.

[thegatfather]

Culture is insanity.

That's insane?

[Niamh.]

I want to ask what your tongues are designed for but I fear It may get taken the wrong way :joker:

http://i.imgur.com/eEx5AHU.gif

[Kyle]

You're allright. But there is stupendous levels of ignorance in England which the masses are hopelessly unaware of. the masses simply are not educated enough in the culture of their fellow UK nations. Does anyone really know how we managed to rule the waves?

:joker:

I won't react to that, I think the people who are reading this can make their mind up about you.

[Kyle]

http://i.imgur.com/eEx5AHU.gif

:joker:


Therapy this Thursday will be good.... :dance:

[Niamh.]

:joker:


Therapy this Thursday will be good.... :dance:

:laugh2:

[thegatfather]

:joker:

I won't react to that, I think the people who are reading this can make their mind up about you.

yes Im sure the English people on here will ignore every word Ive written , ignorance is bliss to them lol

do you go round Europe chanting rule brittannia and smashing up bars or is that another imagined cultural stereotype of the English>?lol

[Kyle]

yes Im sure the English people on here will ignore every word Ive written , ignorance is bliss to them lol

do you go round Europe chanting rule brittannia and smashing up bars or is that another imagined cultural stereotype of the English>?lol

Keep going lol the mask has slipped. :joker:

[Stu]

I presume your being sarcastic (lowest form of wit) and yes everyone gets generalized about and there is usually at least some truth to the caricatures
Sarcasm is sexy. Cliched , hackneyed quips are the lowest form of wit. I feel like I'm being waterboarded trying to read your silly, **** posts.

[Niamh.]

yes Im sure the English people on here will ignore every word Ive written , ignorance is bliss to them lol

do you go round Europe chanting rule brittannia and smashing up bars or is that another imagined cultural stereotype of the English>?lol

Yeah alright, tone it down a bit please, you're starting to border on xenophobia

[Livia]

Stu... always a pleasure.

[thegatfather]

Yeah alright, tone it down a bit please, you're starting to border on xenophobia

Maybe its those hoodlums who should tone it down. I'm wrong for mentioning this behaviour?

[Niamh.]

Ok, I think this thread has really run it's course now - Closed