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Josiah.
22-10-2013, 12:17 PM
Well, we've done it so many times for BBUK. I wanna give BBCanada a try with it. Each of the HouseGuests starts with 10 points. You can +1 a HouseGuest's score while you -1 another HouseGuest's score. After 13 of the HouseGuests have been evicted, you will do +2 -2 to determine the winner. With this, (unlike the others) you can vote every 60 minutes. I will start it off by +1 and -1 two different HouseGuests.


AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 10
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 10 (-) (now 9)
Gary - 10 (+) (now 11)
Jillian - 10
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 10
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 10

Now, we will continue the chain until only 2 people remain.

Jack_
22-10-2013, 01:03 PM
omg looking at these names I love this cast so much :( I don't really wanna minus anyone tbh

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 10
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 12 (+)
Jillian - 9 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 10
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 10

Josiah.
22-10-2013, 01:17 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 10
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 13 (+)
Jillian - 8 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 10
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 10

Samm
22-10-2013, 03:43 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9 (-)
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 14 (+)
Jillian - 9
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 10
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 10

Jack_
22-10-2013, 03:44 PM
Gary's on 14

Samm
22-10-2013, 03:58 PM
Gary's on 14

ok did not see Josiah vote

Josiah.
22-10-2013, 04:49 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 15 (+)
Jillian - 8 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 10
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 10

reece(:
22-10-2013, 05:48 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 15
Jillian - 8
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 9 -

Josiah.
22-10-2013, 05:56 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 16 (+)
Jillian - 7 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11
Talla - 10
Tom - 10
Topaz - 9

reece(:
22-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Nooo I didn't mean Topaz, let me resurrect that.

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 16
Jillian - 7
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11
Talla - 10
Tom - 9 -
Topaz - 10 +

Jack_
22-10-2013, 06:56 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 17 (+)
Jillian - 6 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11
Talla - 10
Tom - 9 -
Topaz - 10 +

Josiah.
22-10-2013, 10:23 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 18 (+)
Jillian - 5 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

Jack_
22-10-2013, 10:24 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 19 (+)
Jillian - 4 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10
Suzette - 11
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

reece(:
22-10-2013, 10:28 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 19
Jillian - 4
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 12 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

LemonJam
22-10-2013, 10:43 PM
why the **** is Jillian even nearly out before Alec, Tom or ****ing especially Peter?

LemonJam
22-10-2013, 10:43 PM
AJ - 11 (+)
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 19
Jillian - 4
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 (-)
Suzette - 12
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

reece(:
22-10-2013, 11:06 PM
why the **** is Jillian even nearly out before Alec, Tom or ****ing especially Peter?
Probably bitter she won, I agree those 3 ***** should definitely be the first three out.

Macie Lightfoot
22-10-2013, 11:14 PM
Seriously of all people to minus... Jillian?! Peter, Tom, Alec, Liza, Kat, and Aneal are the clear worst six.

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 12:23 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 20 (+)
Jillian - 3 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 12
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 12:26 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 20
Jillian - 2 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 13 (+)
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

I wish I'd appreciated Suzette more at the time <3

LemonJam
23-10-2013, 01:17 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 20
Jillian - 3 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 (-)
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

Jillian's middle-tier for me but I refuse her to be 1st out.

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 01:24 AM
I'm honestly so over the +1 -1 **** but I absolutely refuse for Jillian to be first out

AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 20
Jillian - 4 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (-)
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 02:16 AM
Jillian is back down to 3 points while Gary is now up to 21 points.

AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21 (+)
Jillian - 3 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 6
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 9
Topaz - 10

lostalex
23-10-2013, 02:19 AM
Bbus - 11 (+)
bbcan - 10
bbuk - 10
bbaus - 9 (-)

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 02:29 AM
Seriously as if Jillian is worse than Peter or Alec or TOM for ****'s sake

AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 4 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 6
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 8 (-)
Topaz - 10

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 03:59 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 5 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 8
Topaz - 10

lostalex
23-10-2013, 04:02 AM
Seriously as if Jillian is worse than Peter or Alec or TOM for ****'s sake


Ummmm Jillian is pretty freaking nasty and unlikeable. did you watch the same show i did? (the fact that she won makes it even worse)

most people don't think she should have won...just saying...

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 05:01 AM
She's not nasty or unlikable at all and is a hilarious spastic queen. The circumstances of her win are ****ing hilarious and it was honestly the perfect ending to BBCan <3 lol @ saying that Jillian is nasty and unlikable in comparison to Alec, Tom, and Peter okayyyy

AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 6 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 5
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 7 (-)
Topaz - 10

lostalex
23-10-2013, 05:09 AM
She's not nasty or unlikable at all and is a hilarious spastic queen. The circumstances of her win are ****ing hilarious and it was honestly the perfect ending to BBCan <3 lol @ saying that Jillian is nasty and unlikable in comparison to Alec, Tom, and Peter okayyyy

no one compared her to them really, but since you bring it up, Tom and Peter both seemed equally unlikable and delusional.

Hearing Peter talk about himself as if he's one of the greatest players ever compared to the BBUS players, it was just annoying and hilarious. He would have been eaten alive if he was on BBUS.

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 06:07 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 7 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 06:46 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 6 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 13
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

reece(:
23-10-2013, 06:56 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 6
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 -
Suzette - 14 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 07:47 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 5 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 4 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 09:48 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 3 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 (+)
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

LemonJam
23-10-2013, 10:10 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 4 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (-)
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Black Dagger
23-10-2013, 10:25 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 3 -
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 +
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 10:48 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 21
Jillian - 2 -
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 +
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Samm
23-10-2013, 11:53 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 22 (+)
Jillian - 1 (-)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

Jack_
23-10-2013, 11:55 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 9
Gary - 22
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 (+)
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 11:57 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 9
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8 (-)
Gary - 23 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Black Dagger
23-10-2013, 12:01 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 -
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 23
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10 +
Suzette - 14
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian
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reece(:
23-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Jillian 15th is an abomination.

Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 23
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 15 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 7
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Black Dagger
23-10-2013, 01:15 PM
Who the ****ing **** was Liza?

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 01:33 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24 (+)
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9
Suzette - 15
Talla - 10
Tom - 6 (-)
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
23-10-2013, 01:40 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 -
Suzette - 16 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 6
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Black Dagger
23-10-2013, 02:15 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9+
Suzette - 16
Talla - 10
Tom - 5 _
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
23-10-2013, 03:12 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 10 +
Suzette - 16
Talla - 10
Tom - 4 -
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
23-10-2013, 03:29 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 17 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 4
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 03:30 PM
Jillian being last makes this whole thing incredulous tbqh

and why would ANYONE plus Peter

Jack_
23-10-2013, 04:26 PM
k I wasn't going to rise to this but since it seems to be continuing let's dispel a few things

Firstly;

omg looking at these names I love this cast so much :( I don't really wanna minus anyone tbh

I stand by that even if some people seem to have overlooked it, I don't even dislike Jill, she's a really nice girl :shrug: in all honesty I was going to target Kat first since she's the most irrelevant of all of them but I figured no one was going to go along with that so Jillian was the next one who actually had some detractors

I was also barely even going to vote in this but since some seemed so against her being first out and couldn't fathom other people not liking other houseguests better and aimed to get Peter out first instead (not happening, I'll get onto that in a minute), so I thought I'd try and ensure she left first since others were doing the opposite. So now I've explained all that we can also forget the notion that I'm 'bitter' (she won the money not the game anyway but that's a different discussion)

Anyway on the subject of Peter no he wasn't worse than Jillian because his conceited, deluded attitude is what made him so hilarious. Nobody's saying he wasn't an idiot with a giant ego, but his over the top, narcissistic DR's were lolworthy and the season wouldn't have been half as good without them. The point was we were laughing at him, not with him. Every member of the cast had something to offer and that's why I love them as a group so much but to be quite honest without the likes of Peter, Gary, Suzette and to a lesser extent Alec and Tom (and then Jemmett) in particular, I really do think a lot of people would have given up half way. You need annoying people to actually dislike and want out, as dreadful as BB15 was at least I tuned in to constantly want Aaryn and Demanda out, tbh I wasn't interested once they'd gone since the rest were all just meh

Also, I really object to the idea that Jill was this amazing player that's been argued before because she wasn't. I'd say I watched more of the feeds than most on here and Emmett controlled her whole game, every single week when they were in that bloody HoH room she'd ask stuff like 'so what do I need to do?' and you can guarantee that whoever he told her to put up wouldn't have their keys pulled out come the nomination ceremony. She just constantly did what he asked her to, and the reason Emmett was such a good player (indisputably the best of the season) is because he got her to do his dirty work so that she had all the blood on her hands and not him. I mean she was also moronic enough to actually want to take him to the F2 when it would've been a guaranteed loss. Had she somehow convinced him to throw the F4 Veto to her and then shafted him at the last minute by taking Gary/Talla off the block and getting them to send him home, that would've been hilariously genius and I would've respected her game a lot more since none of them stood a chance against him. But no, she actually wanted a F2 with him, idc how much you like someone, you'll have wasted 10 weeks playing for $100k only to guarantee you're going to lose if you do that :conf:

Her social game was dreadful too since the amount of lies she told only to break them hours later and in doing so pissing off over half of the jury was ridiculous. Emmett's game was so good because he ensured that pretty much every houseguest left on good terms with him (+ he'd got Jill to do most of the dirty work) and she fell for it all.

Look, I respect her comp wins and I respect them as a power couple together (why the rest of the houseguests were dumb enough to keep them around idk so props to them) and had they reached the F2 together that would have been a deserved victory for them but Jill on her own is seriously overrated game wise since she was used by Emmett all season long. And I said all of this whilst the season was ongoing too, how people rated her as a player better than him idk

Plus, she wasn't interesting as a person in the slightest. And to be honest neither was Emmett on his own either, as a couple they were but as solos just no.

Emmett deserved to win out of the F4 (I wouldn't have wanted it vs Gary obv but it would have been merited), Jill would have only deserved it against Talla. Jemmett were better players than Gary but Jill wasn't, that's how I see it anyway

reece(:
23-10-2013, 04:30 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 24
Kat - 10
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 -
Suzette - 18 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 4
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
23-10-2013, 04:33 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 25 (+)
Kat - 9 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 18
Talla - 10
Tom - 4
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 05:18 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 26 (+)
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 18
Talla - 10
Tom - 3 (-)
Topaz - 10

15th Place: Jillian

Samm
23-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 26
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 18
Talla - 10
Tom - 2 (-)
Topaz - 11 (+)

15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
23-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27 (+)
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 8
Suzette - 18
Talla - 10
Tom - 1 (-)
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
23-10-2013, 07:11 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 -
Suzette - 19 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 1
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
23-10-2013, 08:32 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 -
Suzette - 20 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 1
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

LemonJam
23-10-2013, 09:08 PM
Jillian of all people 15th? rofl yeah I'm done.

Macie Lightfoot
23-10-2013, 11:28 PM
k I wasn't going to rise to this but since it seems to be continuing let's dispel a few things

Firstly;



I stand by that even if some people seem to have overlooked it, I don't even dislike Jill, she's a really nice girl :shrug: in all honesty I was going to target Kat first since she's the most irrelevant of all of them but I figured no one was going to go along with that so Jillian was the next one who actually had some detractors

I was also barely even going to vote in this but since some seemed so against her being first out and couldn't fathom other people not liking other houseguests better and aimed to get Peter out first instead (not happening, I'll get onto that in a minute), so I thought I'd try and ensure she left first since others were doing the opposite. So now I've explained all that we can also forget the notion that I'm 'bitter' (she won the money not the game anyway but that's a different discussion)

Anyway on the subject of Peter no he wasn't worse than Jillian because his conceited, deluded attitude is what made him so hilarious. Nobody's saying he wasn't an idiot with a giant ego, but his over the top, narcissistic DR's were lolworthy and the season wouldn't have been half as good without them. The point was we were laughing at him, not with him. Every member of the cast had something to offer and that's why I love them as a group so much but to be quite honest without the likes of Peter, Gary, Suzette and to a lesser extent Alec and Tom (and then Jemmett) in particular, I really do think a lot of people would have given up half way. You need annoying people to actually dislike and want out, as dreadful as BB15 was at least I tuned in to constantly want Aaryn and Demanda out, tbh I wasn't interested once they'd gone since the rest were all just meh

Also, I really object to the idea that Jill was this amazing player that's been argued before because she wasn't. I'd say I watched more of the feeds than most on here and Emmett controlled her whole game, every single week when they were in that bloody HoH room she'd ask stuff like 'so what do I need to do?' and you can guarantee that whoever he told her to put up wouldn't have their keys pulled out come the nomination ceremony. She just constantly did what he asked her to, and the reason Emmett was such a good player (indisputably the best of the season) is because he got her to do his dirty work so that she had all the blood on her hands and not him. I mean she was also moronic enough to actually want to take him to the F2 when it would've been a guaranteed loss. Had she somehow convinced him to throw the F4 Veto to her and then shafted him at the last minute by taking Gary/Talla off the block and getting them to send him home, that would've been hilariously genius and I would've respected her game a lot more since none of them stood a chance against him. But no, she actually wanted a F2 with him, idc how much you like someone, you'll have wasted 10 weeks playing for $100k only to guarantee you're going to lose if you do that :conf:

Her social game was dreadful too since the amount of lies she told only to break them hours later and in doing so pissing off over half of the jury was ridiculous. Emmett's game was so good because he ensured that pretty much every houseguest left on good terms with him (+ he'd got Jill to do most of the dirty work) and she fell for it all.

Look, I respect her comp wins and I respect them as a power couple together (why the rest of the houseguests were dumb enough to keep them around idk so props to them) and had they reached the F2 together that would have been a deserved victory for them but Jill on her own is seriously overrated game wise since she was used by Emmett all season long. And I said all of this whilst the season was ongoing too, how people rated her as a player better than him idk

Plus, she wasn't interesting as a person in the slightest. And to be honest neither was Emmett on his own either, as a couple they were but as solos just no.

Emmett deserved to win out of the F4 (I wouldn't have wanted it vs Gary obv but it would have been merited), Jill would have only deserved it against Talla. Jemmett were better players than Gary but Jill wasn't, that's how I see it anyway

I am NOT accepting this ironic appreciation of a Russell Hantz-ian "mastermind" who gives self-congratulatory DRs while putting down everyone else's gameplay when he really did nothing but sit around by himself and mutter under his breath and fold his arms and look stupid. Remember when he said it was a miracle that Topaz won a Comp, depsite not winning a Comp himself at that time I don't think? **** that ****. **** his screaming in the DR, **** him thinking he's relevant for having a YT channel, **** that time he almost had a panic attack for having to eat a goddamn SALAD, **** his entire eviction where he recited some stupid ass poem he made up and wrote "fate" in the dust on the ground with his finger and continued to trash everyone's game because he is a Student Of The Game who thinks it's bull**** that a bitter jury robbed Dan in BB14 but was the catalyst behind an anti-Jemmett jury alliance. No, none of that warrants ironic appreciation and I am 150% secure in saying that BBCan would've improved tenfold if Peter never appeared on the show.

and then lol @ turning a popularity poll type of game into how Jillian Won The Money But Not The Game. She's a lovable and hilarious **** fighting the good fight. And she used the hashtag #shielddidntdo**** so she's pretty much a top-tiered human.

Jack_
23-10-2013, 11:57 PM
You still aren't getting it, everything you just listed is exactly why he was so deluded and full of his own self-importance and the point was to laugh at him as he embarrassed himself throughout the season, it was ****ing hilarious (I'd totally forgot the eviction poem omg thanks for reminding me :laugh3: how hilariously meaningless that was). Of course he and Alec weren't good players and before you insinuate it or assume I'd believe it, no, Jillian would have deserved a win over both of them. Doesn't mean they weren't integral parts of the season though. Also just for the record on the subject of comp wins, he and Alec were throwing 99% of comps until about the half way point, they said as much each week in the DR.

Turning it into? I made one sentence which said that, the rest was just a general attempt at debunking this idea that she was some great player and as good as Emmett which has been said on here before and certainly on other forums too, nothing more nothing less.

Also this 'top-tiered human' and 'sub-par human' crap is really quite odd, idk about anyone else but describing some egotistical reality TV contestant as a 'sub-par human' is just so bafflingly over the top. Maybe your world view and priorities are different but that kind of terminology is usually reserved for um, you know...murderers, child abusers, rapists, racists, homophobes, etc etc (the list goes on and on and on and on) but okay :shrug:

reece(:
24-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 -
Suzette - 21 +
Talla - 10
Tom - 1
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

Donovan.
24-10-2013, 12:56 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 21
Talla - 10
Tom - 2 (+) This is probably going to be in vain, but whateva.
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

Black Dagger
24-10-2013, 12:58 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 +
Suzette - 21
Talla - 10
Tom - 1 -
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 01:18 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 +
Suzette - 21
Talla - 10
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
24-10-2013, 01:18 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 9
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 -
Suzette - 21
Talla - 11 +
Tom - 1
Topaz - 11

15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
24-10-2013, 01:25 AM
Peter's on 5

Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 8 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 21
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Macie Lightfoot
24-10-2013, 02:26 AM
You still aren't getting it, everything you just listed is exactly why he was so deluded and full of his own self-importance and the point was to laugh at him as he embarrassed himself throughout the season, it was ****ing hilarious (I'd totally forgot the eviction poem omg thanks for reminding me :laugh3: how hilariously meaningless that was). Of course he and Alec weren't good players and before you insinuate it or assume I'd believe it, no, Jillian would have deserved a win over both of them. Doesn't mean they weren't integral parts of the season though. Also just for the record on the subject of comp wins, he and Alec were throwing 99% of comps until about the half way point, they said as much each week in the DR.

Turning it into? I made one sentence which said that, the rest was just a general attempt at debunking this idea that she was some great player and as good as Emmett which has been said on here before and certainly on other forums too, nothing more nothing less.

Also this 'top-tiered human' and 'sub-par human' crap is really quite odd, idk about anyone else but describing some egotistical reality TV contestant as a 'sub-par human' is just so bafflingly over the top. Maybe your world view and priorities are different but that kind of terminology is usually reserved for um, you know...murderers, child abusers, rapists, racists, homophobes, etc etc (the list goes on and on and on and on) but okay :shrug:

But there wasn't any hilarity to it though. The show made no mockery of him, but rather supported his antics with constant DRs, filler narration, sympathetic music when he struggled to eat a SALAD, do I need to mention that one time he hosted a Comp he was competing in, the mattress one? The editing just encouraged it all and took Peter seriously, the ironic appreciation is far-fetched and something you have to stretch to make an argument for. He overstayed his welcome and his edit and was a huge negative to the season. As was Alec, as was Tom. We'd all be much better off without having ever viewed them.

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 11:54 AM
Jack and Troy, I don't want to break up your argument; but it has to stop. It's distracting us from doing the +1 -1 game.

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 11:56 AM
Kat and Peter are now tied with 7 points.

Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 7 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 (+)
Suzette - 21
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
24-10-2013, 12:03 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 6 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 (+)
Suzette - 21
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
24-10-2013, 01:11 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 6
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 -
Suzette - 22 +
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
24-10-2013, 01:13 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 5 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 01:16 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 4 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

reece(:
24-10-2013, 01:30 PM
-_-

Jack_
24-10-2013, 03:13 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 3 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 10 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 03:33 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 2 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 11 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
24-10-2013, 05:20 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Kat - 1 (-)
Liza - 10
Peter - 12 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian
__________________

Josiah.
24-10-2013, 06:10 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 27
Liza - 10
Peter - 13 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Black Dagger
24-10-2013, 06:30 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7 -
Gary - 27
Liza - 10
Peter - 14 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
24-10-2013, 06:36 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 9 (-)
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 27
Liza - 10
Peter - 15 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
24-10-2013, 09:35 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10 (+)
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 27
Liza - 10
Peter - 14 (-)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 11
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Raph
24-10-2013, 10:40 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 10
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 27
Liza - 10
Peter - 13 (-)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12 (+)
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

But also so much love to Suzeeette

Jack_
24-10-2013, 10:42 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 9 (-)
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 28 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 13
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 11

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
24-10-2013, 11:09 PM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Aneal - 9
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 28
Liza - 10
Peter - 12 (-)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 12 (+)

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Samm
25-10-2013, 12:12 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7 (-)
Aneal - 9
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 12
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 12

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
25-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 9
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 11 (-)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 13 (+)

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:07 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8 (-)
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 12 (+)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 13

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:20 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 11 (-)
Suzette - 22
Talla - 12
Topaz - 14 (+)

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:23 AM
you never even play in these games so lol how pathetic but k it's only a forum game wow my heart bleeds

He's in the top half of the cast whether you like it or not :)

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:27 AM
you never even play in these games so lol how pathetic but k it's only a forum game wow my heart bleeds

He's in the top half of the cast whether you like it or not :)

make your next move.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:29 AM
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:29 AM
play. do your next plussy minusy thingy.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:30 AM
One vote per hour remember?

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:30 AM
One vote per hour remember?

oh i didn't know that was a rule. who made that rule? that's a crap rule.

I thought it was just you can't vote twice in a row.

The rule should be you can't vote twice in a row. but as soon as someone else votes you can vote again.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:31 AM
Josiah, actually that's quite short tbf since in most of the other games it's 6 or 2 hours per vote

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:32 AM
Josiah, actually that's quite short tbf since in most of the other games it's 6 or 2 hours per vote

probably just because they want to drag out their own threads for as long as possible. some people get off on having successful threads.

have you seen the movie "oz the great and powerful"?

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:34 AM
No, can't say that I have :suspect:

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:35 AM
I liked it. you should check it out. what are you doing for Halloween? it's a good Halloween movie.

reece(:
25-10-2013, 02:01 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 10 -
Suzette - 23 +
Talla - 12
Topaz - 14

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
25-10-2013, 02:22 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 9 (-)
Suzette - 24 (+)
Talla - 12
Topaz - 14

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
25-10-2013, 03:24 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 8 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 12
Topaz - 15 (+)

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

lostalex
25-10-2013, 04:27 AM
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 13 (+)
Topaz - 15

13th Place: Kat
14th Place: Tom
15th Place: Jillian

rk3388
25-10-2013, 05:24 AM
Alec - 9 (-)
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 11 (+)
Emmett - 7
Gary - 29
Liza - 10
Peter - 7
Suzette - 24
Talla - 13
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 05:29 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 13
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 06:32 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14 (+)
Topaz - 15

reece(:
25-10-2013, 06:59 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 8
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 -
Suzette - 25 +
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

Jack_
25-10-2013, 07:01 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 7 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

Jack_
25-10-2013, 08:14 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 6 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 08:49 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 7 (+)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

Jack_
25-10-2013, 09:21 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 6 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 30
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:26 AM
that's cute.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 09:28 AM
It's cute reversing my vote too

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:31 AM
It's cute reversing my vote too

the Peter issue is already over, i've already told you that i will destroy him, so why are you being so insolent? (i told you that when he was at 15, he's at 5 now...well he will be in 10 mins)

Jack_
25-10-2013, 09:37 AM
First of all you never vote in these games so to do so just to 'destroy' some contestant from a reality TV show on a forum game is lol worthy, especially too since isn't it like 2am where you are? Secondly to do it because you think it's somehow going to take a shot at me is even more pathetic I mean yeah my heart really bleeds, and lastly Peter is in the top half of the cast whether you like it or not so whether he leaves this game early or not is irrelevant tbqh :laugh:

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:40 AM
Actually i followed BBCAN, unlike this years summer civilian BBUK (which i couldn't give a **** about) so if ever there was a +/- game for me to participate in this would be it, and it is! and who the **** are you to tell other members what games they should or should not be participating in to begin with little boy?

who the **** died and made you important enuf to give a **** about?

you've got quite the mouth on you little one. i guess that's what these games are about though. Suddenly i'm realizing why these +/- games are fun!

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:45 AM
ands just for the record, Peter (and his boy toy Alec) were pathetic. constantly trying to imitate Boogie and Will thinking they had any game moves at all... name one big game move Peter made during the game? tell me one person he got out? oh yea, no one....

the only reason he lasted so long was because he was pathetic and not a threat to anyone.

Part of being a good game player means, you actually have to be PLAYING the game, not just TALKING about playing the game.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:48 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 6
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 31 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 09:49 AM
Peter is to Andy(bb15US) as puff the magic dragon is to a tyrannosaurus rex.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 10:10 AM
Actually i followed BBCAN, unlike this years summer civilian BBUK (which i couldn't give a **** about) so if ever there was a +/- game for me to participate in this would be it, and it is! and who the **** are you to tell other members what games they should or should not be participating in to begin with little boy?

who the **** died and made you important enuf to give a **** about?

you've got quite the mouth on you little one. i guess that's what these games are about though. Suddenly i'm realizing why these +/- games are fun!

If that's supposed to be a dig because I live in the UK and would somehow take offence to BBUK being criticised then that failed since I too way preferred BBCAN :shrug: anyway I'm sure you're the one that a few weeks ago made a post criticising these +/- games but you can correct me if I'm wrong. Besides, my point in you've barely ever participated in these games and are choosing to do so now just to 'destroy' Peter in what is I'm sure an attempt at trying to get to me which in itself is just bizarre, it's just a forum game...

I've got the mouth on me? LOL yes I'm the person that said I was going to 'destroy' some reality TV contestant in a forum game, yes that really makes sense

ands just for the record, Peter (and his boy toy Alec) were pathetic. constantly trying to imitate Boogie and Will thinking they had any game moves at all... name one big game move Peter made during the game? tell me one person he got out? oh yea, no one....

the only reason he lasted so long was because he was pathetic and not a threat to anyone.

Part of being a good game player means, you actually have to be PLAYING the game, not just TALKING about playing the game.

Um have you actually read this thread or what? I've made it quite clear that I know they weren't good players, I never once said they were? The reason they were so good as houseguests is because they were wrapped up in their own delusion and it was hysterical to watch them embarrass themselves by thinking they controlled everything. I was laughing at them not with them, doesn't mean they weren't a big part of the season though, not game wise but contribution wise.

Most of the cast didn't even bother to play it was pathetic, was still a good show though. The best player was easily Emmett, Jemmett as a duo and then Gary. None of the others actually did anything so aside from those three we can hardly analyse anyone's games since there wasn't any in the first place

lostalex
25-10-2013, 10:20 AM
in responmse to your first question, no nothing i said had anything to do with you being from the UK.

in response to the second point... wait, so you don't think peter was a good player? then WTF. this isn't BBUK, this is BBCAN, this ain't a popularity contest! we are judging a GAME.

well i'm judging a GAME at least, so you must be judging on a very different set of criteria than i am. and i'm judging Peter based on the GAME he supposedly held himself to, he claimed to be such a great GAME player, so that is the standard i am holding him to.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 10:22 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 5 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 31
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 15

lostalex
25-10-2013, 10:30 AM
Siri is actually good for one thing, setting alarm. Siri set alarm!

she always listens to me. :)

Jack_
25-10-2013, 10:32 AM
in responmse to your first question, no nothing i said had anything to do with you being from the UK.

in response to the second point... wait, so you don't think peter was a good player? then WTF. this isn't BBUK, this is BBCAN, this ain't a popularity contest! we are judging a GAME.

well i'm judging a GAME at least, so you must be judging on a very different set of criteria than i am. and i'm judging Peter based on the GAME he supposedly held himself to, he claimed to be such a great GAME player, so that is the standard i am holding him to.

Okay then I respect that, but I personally don't decide my favourites on game alone, don't get me wrong it's an important aspect but not the only aspect. My favourites were Candice and Elissa in BB15, the former had barely any game and the latter had some, they were good to watch/rootable amongst the vile people. But then on the other hand since I've been watching all the previous seasons, Will is my favourite houseguest of all time and he was both a good player, funny and likeable.

I don't begrudge Andy his win since he was the best player after Scumanda left but that doesn't mean I like him as a person. I understand what you're saying though.

If we were ranking game in BBCAN, it would go:

Emmett > (Jemmett as a duo) > Gary > Jillian > Tom (by virtue of him being the only other one to bother playing, his game was crap though)

Then none of the others did anything else. But it was a good season because the cast were good to watch, if we ranked on contribution it'd be Gary > Peter > Suzette > Jemmett > Tom > Liza > Alec >

One other point I would make though is that I see BBCAN as a hybrid between BBUK and BBUS and I think they deliberately positioned it as that so as not to be a total carbon copy of the latter, hence the PowerShifts and secret missions. As a fan of the BBUS format I wasn't a fan of the Canadian influence looking back but I think it's important to differentiate BBCAN from BBUS because assuming they do the same kind of stuff next year, I think the two are different games and have to be viewed as and played differently. The US is strictly strategic whilst Canada is both strategic and a popularity contest with Canadian viewers.

I don't actually think that's necessarily a bad thing either, it's good to have a new kind of hybrid game. It's probably how I'd like BBUK to position the format if they wouldn't be up for taking on the US one completely. A compromise of the two would suffice.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 10:43 AM
I agree that the producers would like it to be hybrid, but i think every single person that went into the BB Canada house had been watching BBUS, not BBUk, and they were there to play a game, so i think it's inevitable that they will all be there to play a game.

The producers tried to make it a bit more like a social experiment taking things from BBUK and BBAUS (marsha the moose was obviously a rip off of BBUK's tree of temptation, and BBAUS's little puffer fish guy) but in the end, they know BB based on BBUS. and they are there playing a BBUS style game.

IMHO.

they were constantly taking about BBUS in the house, and they even had former BBUS players on the live shows with Alisa, so it's clear that BBCAN is trying to associate itself with BBUS because BBUK and BBAUS have never been shown on Canadian TV before, but every season of BBUS has been shown there, and it's popular there.

They'd love to have a Survivor Canada too! They even recently had a Amazing Race Canada! (although they never actually left Canada which kinda makes the race much less amazing, but still...)

lostalex
25-10-2013, 10:49 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 5 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 31
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16 (+)

Jack_
25-10-2013, 10:59 AM
Oh I agree that they were there to play a game, I just don't think most of them bothered. As I said I think the only people that played were Jemmett, Gary and Tom...the rest didn't really do that much I don't think, hence why it felt more like a hybrid between BBUK and BBUS and is IMO why I think I fell in love with the format since I was eased into it with familiar BBUK aspects (I think the house took a lot of inspiration, the missions and food comps too, and the cast felt very BBUK like as well I think), had I started with BB15 I think I'd have been put off for life

What I will say though is that having watched a load of the feeds, I think almost half of the cast had seen BBUK? Alec and Peter are big fans, Gary and Andrew had seen it too and I think Suzette is a fan as well. There were quite a few in depth discussions about BBUK actually which was weird to hear but Alec was always pointing out how stuff the producers were doing in BBUK were being inspired from BBUK and saying he thought it was a good thing.

I still agree with a comment he made during the round table too in that even though Gary may have come back, the Canadian vote was still a competition and it's one he won so that has to be respected. He said that this wasn't BBUS, it was BBCAN and if that was an element of their show then that has to be taken into consideration and I agree really. If the PowerShifts continue next year then I think it's safe to say they want it to be a hybrid which is fine IMO, it just means it's a different kind of game with more of a popularity contest aspect and so that should be remembered when viewing I think. I'm a big fan of the pure BBUS game but if BBCAN wants to create some half-way kind of game then I think that's cool too, it's then three totally different formats for me to watch each year (strictly popularity with BBUK, strictly strategic with BBUS and a mixture of both with BBCAN).

lostalex
25-10-2013, 11:04 AM
many fair points in there. and yea, i think real BB fans do seek out all BB versions (how do you think i got here?) so I agree they probably did watch a lot of BBUK and BBAUS aswell.

But don't you find it a little annoying when people like Peter and Alec pretend like they are playing a "brilliant" BBUS style game, when actually they played a HORRIBLE game? that annoyed me so much, and that's why i'm really intent on eliminated Peter from this game, because i just thought he was so full of ****, pretending to be the greatest player ever when he did absolutely nothing to warrant that title.

i forgive Alec because he's hot. but Peter must go.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 11:07 AM
ok let me ask you this question... who was a better game payer, Howie(BBUS6) or Peter(BBCAN1)?

Jack_
25-10-2013, 11:29 AM
many fair points in there. and yea, i think real BB fans do seek out all BB versions (how do you think i got here?) so I agree they probably did watch a lot of BBUK and BBAUS aswell.

But don't you find it a little annoying when people like Peter and Alec pretend like they are playing a "brilliant" BBUS style game, when actually they played a HORRIBLE game? that annoyed me so much, and that's why i'm really intent on eliminated Peter from this game, because i just thought he was so full of ****, pretending to be the greatest player ever when he did absolutely nothing to warrant that title.

i forgive Alec because he's hot. but Peter must go.

I can understand why you would but personally no because I found their delusion hilarious and Peter's self-important shouty DR's had me in stitches. He made good TV because he was an embarrassment, if Josiah had instructed us to vote solely on game in this I'd be happy to minus him but I think these games are always about who you supported/liked and since I base that more often than not on who brings or brought the most to a show, he was a favourite of mine.

ok let me ask you this question... who was a better game payer, Howie(BBUS6) or Peter(BBCAN1)?

That's difficult because neither were great, Howie was the weakest of his alliance but I still liked him because he was funny. Howie's HoH basically cemented that one of the Nerd Herd would win since dull Maggie got into his head and he agreed to put James up which ended up reducing the Sov Six's numbers by the time the jury cut occurred, and that annoyed me but I guess that's testament to Maggie's game as much as that pains me to admit.

I do think Alec and Peter had some sway on the house votes in the early weeks as part of the Quatro alliance they had with Emmett and Tom, but I don't really think they did much else so this is a difficult question. I would say they're on the same poor level if you ask me, but then Howie aligned himself with better players (even if they were outnumbered the sovs were the better players than the Nerd Herd where only Maggie had any game) so maybe him? I don't know, what do you think?

Jack_
25-10-2013, 11:33 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 4 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 7
Gary - 31
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16

lostalex
25-10-2013, 11:49 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 4
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8 (+)
Gary - 31
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16

lostalex
25-10-2013, 11:56 AM
I can understand why you would but personally no because I found their delusion hilarious and Peter's self-important shouty DR's had me in stitches. He made good TV because he was an embarrassment, if Josiah had instructed us to vote solely on game in this I'd be happy to minus him but I think these games are always about who you supported/liked and since I base that more often than not on who brings or brought the most to a show, he was a favourite of mine.



That's difficult because neither were great, Howie was the weakest of his alliance but I still liked him because he was funny. Howie's HoH basically cemented that one of the Nerd Herd would win since dull Maggie got into his head and he agreed to put James up which ended up reducing the Sov Six's numbers by the time the jury cut occurred, and that annoyed me but I guess that's testament to Maggie's game as much as that pains me to admit.

I do think Alec and Peter had some sway on the house votes in the early weeks as part of the Quatro alliance they had with Emmett and Tom, but I don't really think they did much else so this is a difficult question. I would say they're on the same poor level if you ask me, but then Howie aligned himself with better players (even if they were outnumbered the sovs were the better players than the Nerd Herd where only Maggie had any game) so maybe him? I don't know, what do you think?

well Howie was better than Peter (aligning himself with 2 of the greatest BB characters ever (jannelle and kaysar) but also because he didn't just hide in the diary room, he played IN THE HOUSE, and that's what we never saw from Peter, he was never playing IN THE HOUSE, he tried to pretend he was "playing" Jillian, but no, he was being played BY Jillian. It was so pathetic how he was such a puppy around her, and thought they were gonna be a showmance, she played him SOOO hard.

At least Howie knew his place in his alliance, he was the attack dog, and he was far more entertaining than Peter imo, and he was also a better game player by have a strong alliance, imo.

Josiah.
25-10-2013, 11:56 AM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 4
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16

Jack_
25-10-2013, 12:02 PM
well Howie was better than Peter (aligning himself with 2 of the greatest BB characters ever (jannelle and kaysar) but also because he didn't just hide in the diary room, he played IN THE HOUSE, and that's what we never saw from Peter, he was never playing IN THE HOUSE, he tried to pretend he was "playing" Jillian, but no, he was being played BY Jillian. It was so pathetic how he was such a puppy around her, and thought they were gonna be a showmance, she played him SOOO hard.

At least Howie knew his place in his alliance, he was the attack dog, and he was far more entertaining than Peter imo, and he was also a better game player by have a strong alliance, imo.

I think you're thinking of Liza? He only thought him and her were gonna be a showmance, he hated Jillian

I agree that Howie was the better houseguest, but I still think Peter was a bit character in BBCAN. The show was all about Gary, Jemmett, Peter and Alec, Suzette and then to a lesser extent Tom and Liza. The rest were all supporting characters but that doesn't mean I don't love them all, I'm struggling to minus any of them tbh I'd rather this be a plus only game

lostalex
25-10-2013, 12:26 PM
I think you're thinking of Liza? He only thought him and her were gonna be a showmance, he hated Jillian

I agree that Howie was the better houseguest, but I still think Peter was a bit character in BBCAN. The show was all about Gary, Jemmett, Peter and Alec, Suzette and then to a lesser extent Tom and Liza. The rest were all supporting characters but that doesn't mean I don't love them all, I'm struggling to minus any of them tbh I'd rather this be a plus only game

You're right, it was Liza that made him look like the fool. sorry all Canadians look alike to me :P (j/k)[i need to put the j/k just incase Kizzy thinks i'm being racist]

if we are just judging personalities, i loved Talla and Gary and Topaz. I think they were the most genuine personalities.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 12:33 PM
Alex though surely if you're voting solely on game in this then there's other people that should go before Peter? Yes his game was crap but the likes of Danielle and Aneal, even Talla tbh who was just carried along had non existent games so surely they should at least go first if that's what you're voting on?

Purely on game the final three in this should be Emmett, Gary and Jillian

Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 4
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32 (+)
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16

Traitor :hmph:

Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 3 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 14
Topaz - 16

lostalex
25-10-2013, 12:36 PM
Alex though surely if you're voting solely on game in this then there's other people that should go before Peter? Yes his game was crap but the likes of Danielle and Aneal, even Talla tbh who was just carried along had non existent games so surely they should at least go first if that's what you're voting on?

Purely on game the final three in this should be Emmett, Gary and Jillian


but because i'm voting based on game, that creates a game in and of itself ;)

I won't tell you who I want to win this game.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 12:38 PM
i loved Talla and Gary and Topaz. I think they were the most genuine personalities.

I agree but I still wish Gary, Topaz, Peter and Alec had worked together :( it came so close to happening I remember, but Topaz and Alec had trust issues and that's what prevented it IIRC

lostalex
25-10-2013, 12:39 PM
I agree but I still wish Gary, Topaz, Peter and Alec had worked together :( it came so close to happening I remember, but Topaz and Alec had trust issues and that's what prevented it IIRC

I think Alec is into boys.

he's too cute to be str8. imho.

Raph
25-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 2 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 5
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15 (+)
Topaz - 16

Jack_
25-10-2013, 12:48 PM
I think Alec is into boys.

he's too cute to be str8. imho.

Let's hope so eh ;)

lostalex
25-10-2013, 12:50 PM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 3 (+)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:35 PM
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 2 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:40 PM
it's not fair because you had a full nights sleep Jack.

I do actually need to go to bed now, but i'n gonna be PISSED if i wake tomorrow and Peter has 15 points again. that's ****ed up.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:41 PM
don't do that to me Jack. please. lets call a truce. for 8 hours i won't down vote peter, and you won't up vote him, okay?

you can still vote ever hour if you want, but just don't vote for peter, deal?

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:48 PM
I only slept for four hours actually. But I'm sorry it's not fair for me either, whilst I had to go bed you had the whole of the night UK time to minus him so I woke up with him having lost loads of points, it's the same thing...I couldn't do anything about that since I had to sleep while it was still evening for you. This is the problem when there's time zone differences.

I could only agree to that had you not been voting every hour whilst I slept in the night just gone, but you were so it wouldn't be fair if you got let off but I didn't. Sorry

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:48 PM
Alec - 10 (+)
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 2
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 4 (-)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:50 PM
fine, the deal is off. i'm just gonna getr more drunk and more obnoxious for as long as it takes! It's ON!

You're gonna hear me ROAR! oh oh oh ohahhh *dances like a sexy woman in a tiger costume*

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:51 PM
I think we have come to an understanding, we can respect each other as people now Jack, but this is pure game now.

Peter Must Die!! i think there was a hollywood movie about this?

Lzrj97cGifw

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:54 PM
Okay :conf: it's only a forum game though, I certainly wasn't going to stay up all night just to plus some reality TV contestant on the internet

Let's be honest Alex had I asked you not to vote for him when I went to sleep you'd have told me where to go :laugh:

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:55 PM
that not true, if you offered me sexual favors i would have caved in easily...

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:57 PM
seriously though, let's have a compromise, who do you want out next? if you let Peter go, i will vote out the next person you want to see off the list. i will use every (-) vote i have until they are gone.

Jack_
25-10-2013, 01:58 PM
:joker:

Also I've just realised, what the hell happened to AJ? He was never eliminated...

He's on 11 points for whoever votes next

lostalex
25-10-2013, 01:59 PM
seriously though, do you really want Peter to win this? c'mon. if you let him go, you pick the next one out. i promise. every single minus sign until they are gone.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 02:00 PM
anyone you want.

lostalex
25-10-2013, 02:02 PM
you reality need to say yes or now now cause i do have to go, my friend is waving his dick on Skype right now, and i do need to jerk off and go to bed, so tell me hess or now so i can get to the good stuff....

yes or no jack???

lostalex
25-10-2013, 02:04 PM
i guess it';s a no

Mike Robert's is sad about that..
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YApq80xvccE/TaZY7VVghyI/AAAAAAAAGmQ/HzCnC9dENfc/s640/MikeRoberts1.jpg


but Plankton says THIS IS WAR!!!!

seriously though, i do have to go, take care buddy, it's all in fun right? take care

Jack_
25-10-2013, 02:04 PM
Of course I don't want him to win LOL if that's why you're trying to get him out then definitely not, Gary has to win this there's no question about it

I just want him top 7 since that's the top half. If I'm voting on season contribution and you are on game then this would be a fair compromise - Danielle, Aneal, AJ and Talla (or Topaz, up to you, or even Andrew if you want) out before him since none of them really did anything game wise or added that much, and then I won't plus him for a whole day so you can do what you want. That's fair

Jack_
25-10-2013, 02:37 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Aneal - 1 (-)
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 5 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 03:02 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 11
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

Jack_
25-10-2013, 03:38 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10 (-)
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

reece(:
25-10-2013, 04:49 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 11 +
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 6 -
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 04:51 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 10
Peter - 7 +
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 16

Marc
25-10-2013, 04:53 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 8 (-)
Peter - 7
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 18 (+)

Why aren't we adding the fallen

reece(:
25-10-2013, 04:57 PM
Why aren't we adding the fallen

Cos they were unrighteously robbed.
http://i.minus.com/iGvrFNUhTe0SV.gif

Jack_
25-10-2013, 04:59 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 7 (-)
Peter - 8 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 18

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 05:00 PM
they were all terrible and we want to forget them xx

reece(:
25-10-2013, 05:01 PM
The terrible ones seem to keep getting spam +ed every hour

Poor Danielle is the next victim, who is by default top 5 with her amazing "FU ALL" exit :worship:

Jack_
25-10-2013, 05:03 PM
Her exit was hilarious and she should have stayed longer but she didn't offer that much tbh

reece(:
25-10-2013, 05:05 PM
Her exit was hilarious and she should have stayed longer but she didn't offer that much tbh

Her being team #Glitter and #MommaBear was enough
http://31.media.tumblr.com/32c5efeafeeecfd39bc84b02b47d9131/tumblr_mv6ix1bRUs1rqekzuo1_400.gif

Jack_
25-10-2013, 05:06 PM
Hm true but she was the weakest of that group

Jack_
25-10-2013, 05:59 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 6 (-)
Peter - 9 (+)
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 18

Marc
25-10-2013, 06:02 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9 (-)
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 6
Peter - 9
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19 (+) although she's a dumb bitch

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 06:06 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9 (-)
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 5 -
Peter - 10 +
Suzette - 24
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

reece(:
25-10-2013, 06:35 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 5
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 25 +
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

Jack_
25-10-2013, 07:26 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 4 -
Peter - 10 +
Suzette - 25
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

reece(:
25-10-2013, 07:35 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 4
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 26 +
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

Jack_
25-10-2013, 09:18 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 3 (-)
Peter - 10 (+)
Suzette - 26
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 09:19 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 2 (-)
Peter - 11 (+)
Suzette - 26
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

:dance:

reece(:
25-10-2013, 09:23 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 2
Peter - 10 -
Suzette - 27 +
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

Jack_
25-10-2013, 09:36 PM
I am very disappointed in you Reece :nono:

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 09:41 PM
WHY ARE YOU PLUSSING PETE HE WAS AWFUL

And why was Jillian out first? Is it because she deservedly won and beat a previously evicted houseguest, she was the last remaining houseguest regardless of Topaz' vote :shrug:

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 09:42 PM
Let's get Peter, Alec & Liza out. All awful, AJ too for joining a jury hatefest rather than respecting the actual game.

AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8 +
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 2
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

reece(:
25-10-2013, 09:43 PM
I am very disappointed in you Reece :nono:
I am dissapointed in this mad like in the most pessimistic dull Dan Gheesling wannabe out there who got Topaz evicted because he's so self righteous and full of himself whilst still being void of a personality :nono:
WHY ARE YOU PLUSSING PETE HE WAS AWFUL

And why was Jillian out first? Is it because she deservedly won and beat a previously evicted houseguest, she was the last remaining houseguest regardless of Topaz' vote :shrug:
I've honestly no clue and he should have rightfully been out in 15th place (YES below Tom the tw*t).

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 10:02 PM
The only reason Jillian is out is because she beat Gary :laugh:
She was in no way worse than Peter, Alec, Liza.

She won many competitions as well, and had power literally every week from jury onwards in some form, and was practically impossible to be evicted, yet people actually believe Gary would have been a better winner. Yes for BBUK he would have been a better winner, but this is not the same game :laugh:

Jack_
25-10-2013, 10:21 PM
I've already explained why she's out and why I'm +ing Peter, I would again but I'm going out so

AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 1 -
Peter - 10 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 15
Topaz - 19

Marc
25-10-2013, 10:23 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 1
Peter - 10
Suzette - 26 (-)
Talla - 16 (+)
Topaz - 19

reece(:
25-10-2013, 10:23 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Liza - 1
Peter - 9 -
Suzette - 27 +
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 10:24 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Danielle - 10
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 10 + stop xo
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 10:25 PM
ugh, Idgi, He he has no redeeming qualities, was an awful gameplayer. I don't get it, and I cba to trawl through 8 pages to find you reason

reece(:
25-10-2013, 10:27 PM
ugh, Idgi, He he has no redeeming qualities, was an awful gameplayer. I don't get it, and I cba to trawl through 8 pages to find you reason
And you forgot a total fail try hard that brought the season down.

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 10:29 PM
And you forgot a total fail try hard that brought the season down.

The production tried to make hio the next dan, and all he did was make his alliance worse. I mean every decision he made was awful :laugh3:
Evicting AJ over Andrew, not using the POV on Topaz when he would then go into the f5 with a f4 alliance (That he knew of):laugh3:

I just can't

reece(:
25-10-2013, 10:30 PM
The production tried to make hio the next dan, and all he did was make his alliance worse. I mean every decision he made was awful :laugh3:
Evicting AJ over Andrew, not using the POV on Topaz when he would then go into the f5 with a f4 alliance (That he knew of):laugh3:

I just can't
I don't like to remember those god awful moments and how he robbed Topaz and had the worst edit ever because it really does leave a sour taste in my mouth for the end of the season.

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 10:33 PM
I don't like to remember those god awful moments and how he robbed Topaz and had the worst edit ever because it really does leave a sour taste in my mouth for the end of the season.

I remember both Jillian & Andrew laughing in the DR at him, at how stupid he was. It was so great for Jillian to win HOH & get him out that house. :worship:

And he carried on having his temper tantrums in jury with Alec to try & make everyone NOT vote Jillian, I love how that backfired also :elephant:

reece(:
25-10-2013, 10:36 PM
I remember both Jillian & Andrew laughing in the DR at him, at how stupid he was. It was so great for Jillian to win HOH & get him out that house. :worship:

And he carried on having his temper tantrums in jury with Alec to try & make everyone NOT vote Jillian, I love how that backfired also :elephant:
I would've loved a Gary win but I'm so glad he didn't get his way because I couldn't cope with the pessimist turning into the smug pessimist.

MeMyselfAndI
25-10-2013, 10:47 PM
I would've loved a Gary win but I'm so glad he didn't get his way because I couldn't cope with the pessimist turning into the smug pessimist.

i preferred Gary as a housemate to Jillian also, I found him more entertaining and more funny, and him winning would have been nice, but I wanted Jillian to win as I don't agree with returning housemates being eligable to win the game tbh, especially with all the extra infomation gathered from Jury. They were not even sequestered... He knew exactly who to go up against, and he returned at the f5! I mean that is just unfair. Talla could have won the game otherwise, and that would have been hilarious :laugh3:

reece(:
25-10-2013, 10:49 PM
A Talla win would have been such a lol****** and would've been a great end :amazed:

Macie Lightfoot
25-10-2013, 11:45 PM
ugh, Idgi, He he has no redeeming qualities, was an awful gameplayer. I don't get it, and I cba to trawl through 8 pages to find you reason

I mean it's Jack and Lucas plussing him, you can't find logic where there is none.

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 11:55 PM
you have the worst taste in house-mates ever, simmer down xxx

Black Dagger
25-10-2013, 11:55 PM
there is no logic in thinking Alex, Jem and Tom were great housemates in BB12, so cya later.

DrunkerThanMoses
25-10-2013, 11:58 PM
This is a joke all ready, how half these people are still in it is a joke

The top 3 should be Jillian because she was competition *****, Gary because lets face he was the star of the season, and Topaz, because lets face it..... we all loved her "topazing" in the final

DrunkerThanMoses
26-10-2013, 12:00 AM
there is no logic in thinking Alex, Jem and Tom were great housemates in BB12, so cya later.

Jays **** in the freezer had more personality then them three put together

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 12:12 AM
there is no logic in thinking Alex, Jem and Tom were great housemates in BB12, so cya later.

I mean they're not the Wolf Pack and they're not Aaron so that alone makes them top BB12 HMs but okay keep trying to make Alec a thing

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 12:20 AM
hardly makes them 'top' they didn't do anything, you keep trying to make them a thing xo

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 12:20 AM
Jem burped in Aaron's face, Alex got a spray tan and Tom said bab.

Fantastic.

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 12:28 AM
They didn't have to do anything because BB12 was complete **** because of all people who contributed tedious "great" talking points.

And besides, Jem was righteous in her Aaron hate, Tom was the only person fearless enough to call out Aaron before the final week, and Alex was a hilarious lovable ******. Literally everyone else (except Heaven and maybe Tashie?) was atrocious so that's enough.

Also Jem tweeted this

Jemmapalmer Jemma palmer
lets get this strait if i diped a tampon in arons t i would hav gt kiked outof bb, thatis not my style i would rather resort to violence lol

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 12:30 AM
Jemmapalmer Jemma palmer
lets get this strait if i diped a tampon in arons t i would hav gt kiked outof bb, thatis not my style i would rather resort to violence lol

stay classy and learn English.

reece(:
26-10-2013, 12:30 AM
Also Jem tweeted this

Jemmapalmer Jemma palmer
lets get this strait if i diped a tampon in arons t i would hav gt kiked outof bb, thatis not my style i would rather resort to violence lol

No holy way that is her spelling. :joker::joker:

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 12:34 AM
"i would rather resort to violence lol" are words to live by tbh

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 01:01 AM
aye, she's a wonderful specimen.

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 01:19 AM
yup just like your precious Alec and Speidi ya know

Jack_
26-10-2013, 01:59 AM
I mean it's Jack and Lucas plussing him, you can't find logic where there is none.

keep my name out of your mouth, understood? k thanks bye

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 02:00 AM
feisty jack is my fave.

Jack_
26-10-2013, 02:01 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Danielle - 9 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 11 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 02:01 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7 -
Danielle - 9
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 12 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Jack_
26-10-2013, 02:16 AM
@ MM&I, the most relevant posts I made in here in response to your point:

k I wasn't going to rise to this but since it seems to be continuing let's dispel a few things

Firstly;



I stand by that even if some people seem to have overlooked it, I don't even dislike Jill, she's a really nice girl :shrug: in all honesty I was going to target Kat first since she's the most irrelevant of all of them but I figured no one was going to go along with that so Jillian was the next one who actually had some detractors

I was also barely even going to vote in this but since some seemed so against her being first out and couldn't fathom other people not liking other houseguests better and aimed to get Peter out first instead (not happening, I'll get onto that in a minute), so I thought I'd try and ensure she left first since others were doing the opposite. So now I've explained all that we can also forget the notion that I'm 'bitter' (she won the money not the game anyway but that's a different discussion)

Anyway on the subject of Peter no he wasn't worse than Jillian because his conceited, deluded attitude is what made him so hilarious. Nobody's saying he wasn't an idiot with a giant ego, but his over the top, narcissistic DR's were lolworthy and the season wouldn't have been half as good without them. The point was we were laughing at him, not with him. Every member of the cast had something to offer and that's why I love them as a group so much but to be quite honest without the likes of Peter, Gary, Suzette and to a lesser extent Alec and Tom (and then Jemmett) in particular, I really do think a lot of people would have given up half way. You need annoying people to actually dislike and want out, as dreadful as BB15 was at least I tuned in to constantly want Aaryn and Demanda out, tbh I wasn't interested once they'd gone since the rest were all just meh

Also, I really object to the idea that Jill was this amazing player that's been argued before because she wasn't. I'd say I watched more of the feeds than most on here and Emmett controlled her whole game, every single week when they were in that bloody HoH room she'd ask stuff like 'so what do I need to do?' and you can guarantee that whoever he told her to put up wouldn't have their keys pulled out come the nomination ceremony. She just constantly did what he asked her to, and the reason Emmett was such a good player (indisputably the best of the season) is because he got her to do his dirty work so that she had all the blood on her hands and not him. I mean she was also moronic enough to actually want to take him to the F2 when it would've been a guaranteed loss. Had she somehow convinced him to throw the F4 Veto to her and then shafted him at the last minute by taking Gary/Talla off the block and getting them to send him home, that would've been hilariously genius and I would've respected her game a lot more since none of them stood a chance against him. But no, she actually wanted a F2 with him, idc how much you like someone, you'll have wasted 10 weeks playing for $100k only to guarantee you're going to lose if you do that :conf:

Her social game was dreadful too since the amount of lies she told only to break them hours later and in doing so pissing off over half of the jury was ridiculous. Emmett's game was so good because he ensured that pretty much every houseguest left on good terms with him (+ he'd got Jill to do most of the dirty work) and she fell for it all.

Look, I respect her comp wins and I respect them as a power couple together (why the rest of the houseguests were dumb enough to keep them around idk so props to them) and had they reached the F2 together that would have been a deserved victory for them but Jill on her own is seriously overrated game wise since she was used by Emmett all season long. And I said all of this whilst the season was ongoing too, how people rated her as a player better than him idk

Plus, she wasn't interesting as a person in the slightest. And to be honest neither was Emmett on his own either, as a couple they were but as solos just no.

Emmett deserved to win out of the F4 (I wouldn't have wanted it vs Gary obv but it would have been merited), Jill would have only deserved it against Talla. Jemmett were better players than Gary but Jill wasn't, that's how I see it anyway

If that's supposed to be a dig because I live in the UK and would somehow take offence to BBUK being criticised then that failed since I too way preferred BBCAN :shrug: anyway I'm sure you're the one that a few weeks ago made a post criticising these +/- games but you can correct me if I'm wrong. Besides, my point in you've barely ever participated in these games and are choosing to do so now just to 'destroy' Peter in what is I'm sure an attempt at trying to get to me which in itself is just bizarre, it's just a forum game...

I've got the mouth on me? LOL yes I'm the person that said I was going to 'destroy' some reality TV contestant in a forum game, yes that really makes sense



Um have you actually read this thread or what? I've made it quite clear that I know they weren't good players, I never once said they were? The reason they were so good as houseguests is because they were wrapped up in their own delusion and it was hysterical to watch them embarrass themselves by thinking they controlled everything. I was laughing at them not with them, doesn't mean they weren't a big part of the season though, not game wise but contribution wise.

Most of the cast didn't even bother to play it was pathetic, was still a good show though. The best player was easily Emmett, Jemmett as a duo and then Gary. None of the others actually did anything so aside from those three we can hardly analyse anyone's games since there wasn't any in the first place

Okay then I respect that, but I personally don't decide my favourites on game alone, don't get me wrong it's an important aspect but not the only aspect. My favourites were Candice and Elissa in BB15, the former had barely any game and the latter had some, they were good to watch/rootable amongst the vile people. But then on the other hand since I've been watching all the previous seasons, Will is my favourite houseguest of all time and he was both a good player, funny and likeable.

I don't begrudge Andy his win since he was the best player after Scumanda left but that doesn't mean I like him as a person. I understand what you're saying though.

If we were ranking game in BBCAN, it would go:

Emmett > (Jemmett as a duo) > Gary > Jillian > Tom (by virtue of him being the only other one to bother playing, his game was crap though)

Then none of the others did anything else. But it was a good season because the cast were good to watch, if we ranked on contribution it'd be Gary > Peter > Suzette > Jemmett > Tom > Liza > Alec >

One other point I would make though is that I see BBCAN as a hybrid between BBUK and BBUS and I think they deliberately positioned it as that so as not to be a total carbon copy of the latter, hence the PowerShifts and secret missions. As a fan of the BBUS format I wasn't a fan of the Canadian influence looking back but I think it's important to differentiate BBCAN from BBUS because assuming they do the same kind of stuff next year, I think the two are different games and have to be viewed as and played differently. The US is strictly strategic whilst Canada is both strategic and a popularity contest with Canadian viewers.

I don't actually think that's necessarily a bad thing either, it's good to have a new kind of hybrid game. It's probably how I'd like BBUK to position the format if they wouldn't be up for taking on the US one completely. A compromise of the two would suffice.

Oh I agree that they were there to play a game, I just don't think most of them bothered. As I said I think the only people that played were Jemmett, Gary and Tom...the rest didn't really do that much I don't think, hence why it felt more like a hybrid between BBUK and BBUS and is IMO why I think I fell in love with the format since I was eased into it with familiar BBUK aspects (I think the house took a lot of inspiration, the missions and food comps too, and the cast felt very BBUK like as well I think), had I started with BB15 I think I'd have been put off for life

What I will say though is that having watched a load of the feeds, I think almost half of the cast had seen BBUK? Alec and Peter are big fans, Gary and Andrew had seen it too and I think Suzette is a fan as well. There were quite a few in depth discussions about BBUK actually which was weird to hear but Alec was always pointing out how stuff the producers were doing in BBUK were being inspired from BBUK and saying he thought it was a good thing.

I still agree with a comment he made during the round table too in that even though Gary may have come back, the Canadian vote was still a competition and it's one he won so that has to be respected. He said that this wasn't BBUS, it was BBCAN and if that was an element of their show then that has to be taken into consideration and I agree really. If the PowerShifts continue next year then I think it's safe to say they want it to be a hybrid which is fine IMO, it just means it's a different kind of game with more of a popularity contest aspect and so that should be remembered when viewing I think. I'm a big fan of the pure BBUS game but if BBCAN wants to create some half-way kind of game then I think that's cool too, it's then three totally different formats for me to watch each year (strictly popularity with BBUK, strictly strategic with BBUS and a mixture of both with BBCAN).

Jack_
26-10-2013, 10:58 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 8 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 13 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 11:52 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 7 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 14 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Jack_
26-10-2013, 11:59 AM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 6 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 15 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Jack_
26-10-2013, 01:12 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 5 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 16 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 01:45 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 4 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 17 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Jack_
26-10-2013, 03:05 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 3 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 19

Marc
26-10-2013, 03:45 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 3
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 17 (-)
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 20 (+)

Marc
26-10-2013, 03:47 PM
Think we should probably change it to not being able to vote the same person twice in a row

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 04:26 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 2 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 17 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 20

nolol

Jack_
26-10-2013, 04:38 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7
Danielle - 1 -
Emmett - 8
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 20

Marc
26-10-2013, 04:39 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8 +
Danielle - 1
Emmett - 7 -
Gary - 32
Peter - 18
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 20

You're both pretty much ruining this

reece(:
26-10-2013, 04:40 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8 +
Danielle - 1
Emmett - 7 -
Gary - 32
Peter - 18
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16
Topaz - 20

You're both pretty much ruining this
I'm done here :laugh:

Jack_
26-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Well if you're so bothered I suggest you vote every hour too, in fact the only reason we started doing so is because some others made it their mission to do the same and try and ensure he left early which just wasn't happening before the likes of bloody Aneal and Kat

As I've already made perfectly clear in this thread, I don't actually dislike any of the cast and I'm running out of people to minus, but Gary, Suzette, Peter, Emmett (well Jemmett but I've already explained this too) and Alec were the stars of the season and I'm going to try and get them as far as possible in this game

AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 8
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 19 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16

Black Dagger
26-10-2013, 07:01 PM
AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7 -
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 20 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16

It's a game, get over it pmsl. yawn.

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 07:36 PM
Calling Alec and Peter stars and not Talla and Topaz holylol

Jack_
26-10-2013, 07:55 PM
They're commonly known as supporting characters babe, keep trying though 'holylol' xo

Jack_
26-10-2013, 07:57 PM
AJ - 10 -
Alec - 10 +
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 20
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 08:02 PM
#shielddidntdo**** as the queen would say. But your desperate attempts at trolling are pretty humorous I must admit

Raph
26-10-2013, 08:05 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 19 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17 +

Jack_
26-10-2013, 08:26 PM
#shielddidntdo**** as the queen would say. But your desperate attempts at trolling are pretty humorous I must admit

LMFAO OMG THIS IS THE BEST POST THIS YEAR

You accusing me of trolling?! You? This is way too much :laugh3:

Give me a ****ing break, this coming from the person that drags members names up in threads sometimes when they haven't even posted and constantly insults their opinions. Yeah, totally not a troll. I could find numerous posts in this thread even that could easily be seen as trolling, so try again and whilst you're at it I think you need to address the evident problem you have with people that have learning difficulties because it's really quite odd

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 08:43 PM
*is appalled that someone accuses you of trolling* *makes up claim that the accuser has a problem with people with learning difficulties* never change Jack :joker:

Jack_
26-10-2013, 09:05 PM
Except I haven't made it up, your excessive use of the term '******' and other similar ones often as an insult and in a negative manner, along with some questionable posts you've made about such people speaks volumes

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:08 PM
Talla, Andrew, Jillian & Emmet were the stars AND best players as they were original f4

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:11 PM
Jillian played a great game. FACT. She was responsible for getting rid of all those sour faced losers

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:14 PM
And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:14 PM
And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 09:17 PM
Except I haven't made it up, your excessive use of the term '******' and other similar ones often as an insult and in a negative manner, along with some questionable posts you've made about such people speaks volumes

Except I don't excessively use ****** and the only "questionable" post I made was the completely valid point that Dan Gheesling losing a social game to someone on the autism spectrum shows that he sucks. Keep grasping at straws tho

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:18 PM
I can't take your posts seriously Jack when you think Liza contributed more to the show than Topaz & Talla.
Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

Marc
26-10-2013, 09:20 PM
AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Emmett - 7
Gary - 33 (+)
Peter - 17 (-)
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

Macie Lightfoot
26-10-2013, 09:20 PM
Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

Even more hilarious when Jack is the forum spokesperson for dreaded "talking points" :joker::joker::joker:

reece(:
26-10-2013, 09:22 PM
All Liza did was give horrendous Peter and Tom airtime, so shame on her. She is pretty lulzy post-show.

MeMyselfAndI
26-10-2013, 09:23 PM
Jillian DID win the game & the money, that is proof that your bitter #justsaying
It's an actual fact, It's not subjective, she won the show, It was aired, millions saw it.

reece(:
26-10-2013, 09:24 PM
Who's saying Jillian didn't win?