Sleeping with 5 Men/Women Slut Argument - Do You agree?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

According to Dappy if a women sleeps with 5 men she's a slut but if a a man sleeps with 5 women it's ok. According to Luisa he's being sexist and should be ashamed of himself. So who do you agree with? YOU DECIDE.

[Benjamin]

Agree with Luisa (and not just because she is my fave), it is sexist.

[Jordan.]

Luisa obvs

[Kate!]

Agree with Luisa

[reece(:]

Agree with Luisa, it is sexist bile. I'm sure the "lads" won't view it that way.

[Scream]

I prefer Luisa and I don't think it's right even though I agree with Dappy...there's something about a girl sleeping with a lot of people that seems quite disgusting whereas if it's a male it's not as bad.

[Doogle]

It's disgusting to use that word towards a women and is never acceptable.

It's the person's choice - if they're safe who cares? It's not anyone else's business

[Marsh.]

I prefer Luisa and I don't think it's right even though I agree with Dappy...there's something about a girl sleeping with a lot of people that seems quite disgusting whereas if it's a male it's not as bad.

I believe that something is called sexism.

It's like saying it's not right for a man to be in the kitchen as it's a woman's place. Both sexes are equal and should therefore be judged equally when it comes to their actions.

Whether you think it's good or bad to sleep with 5 people in one night, it should apply the same to both men and women.

[smudgie]

Sexist drivel from Dappy.

[Lostie!]

Team Neither.

It was a stupid thing to say from Dappy, but Luisa can hardly seize the moral high ground in regards to rude and small-minded comments.

[Kate!]

I prefer Luisa and I don't think it's right even though I agree with Dappy...there's something about a girl sleeping with a lot of people that seems quite disgusting whereas if it's a male it's not as bad.

What!?!?

In the words of John McEnroe .... "You cannot be serious"

[Natalie.]

Agree with Luisa
Doesn't matter how many people either sex sleep with as long as they're safe and single
If you do think it's bad though, it should be bad for men to do it also

[Scream]

I believe that something is called sexism.

It's like saying it's not right for a man to be in the kitchen as it's a woman's place. Both sexes are equal and should therefore be judged equally when it comes to their actions.

I'm in no way sexist...it's just different events that in society are deemed acceptable or not acceptable depending on whether a male or female does it.

[sampvt]

I wanna know where these people get 5 women in one night. Id rather take one to paradise and back than 5 to the end of the garden gate. Hard to agree with either as they are both talking ****e. Personally I think that a woman must have self esteem issues if she does it and a guy has the morals of a twat.

How the world has changed since I was a lad. Im glad I am old and happy. Look at how it effects people like lee. They should be castrated and left on Prozac for the rest of their life.

[Marsh.]

I'm in no way sexist...it's just different events that in society are deemed acceptable or not acceptable depending on whether a male or female does it.

You are changing your opinion/judgement on the exact same actions on whether it's a male or female committing them. That is sexism.
Whether you want to be or not, you have just defined it.

[Z]

Luisa's right in the context of the debate; but I think Luisa's the kind of girl who thinks her own **** doesn't stink - Dappy clearly got on her nerves with the points he was making because she was being challenged for her behaviour. It's not okay to sleep around regardless of your gender, I think he just comes from the kind of upbringing where women are expected to be role models and he doesn't like what he sees in Luisa. That doesn't excuse his own flaws but I think that's why he was so passionate about what he was saying.

[Doogle]

I'm in no way sexist...it's just different events that in society are deemed acceptable or not acceptable depending on whether a male or female does it.

sexism

[Jezzy]

According to Dappy if a women sleeps with 5 women

This? Or 5 men, or a mixture?

[Samm]

Team Luisa :love:

[Nemo123]

WOT?!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

This? Or 5 men, or a mixture?

it's edited but you know what i mean lol :joker:

[andybigbro]

Team Luisa all the way!

[Jezzy]

it's edited but you know what i mean lol :joker:

Well, just in case I got the wrong thing and started arguing with you :P

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Well, just in case I got the wrong thing and started arguing with you :P

ok all fixed :spin:

[Scream]

sexism

Hmm, not necessarily. It's probably because I have more respect for women and think of them as more respectable. I don't frown on women who sleep with a lot of men...I'm just saying, in today's society that's how it is and I kind of feel the same way. If I heard a guy slept with 5 girls in one night I wouldn't be surprised...if it was a woman it just sounds more dirty.

[Jezzy]

ok all fixed :spin:

:wink:

[Marsh.]

Hmm, not necessarily. It's probably because I have more respect for women and think of them as more respectable. I don't frown on women who sleep with a lot of men...I'm just saying, in today's society that's how it is and I kind of feel the same way. If I heard a guy slept with 5 girls in one night I wouldn't be surprised...if it was a woman it just sounds more dirty.

It is sexism. Whether you mean it to be or not.

[joeysteele]

Well to me, anyone who sleeps with 5 people whether it be male or female,likely have little respect for themselves or the people they are sleeping with so both are the same to me.

[Amy Jade]

Team Luisa

He brags about sleeping with women and tries to shag Jasmine on day 1 but Lusia can't have a healthy plentiful sex life without being a 'slag'

He's disgusting and I'm shocked he even gets any women, he's ugly no matter how big his cock is, it's attached to a short arse prick

[MeMyselfAndI]

One argument is sexist & bigoted, the other is not.
I'm on the right side, Luisa's

[Heaven = Winner]

Team Luisa.

Besides, Lee's obviously the biggest slut in the house.

[Jezzy]

5 in one night shocks me, am I getting old or is that really just nasty?

[Nemo123]

All those (girls) who agree with Luisa: Would you be up for 5 or 6 men?

[Brother Leon]

Don't give a **** as long as they keep arguing and take way from the Love Triangle. Jasmine won the actual debate as she put across the counter point without being personal or aggresive. Luisa saw an oppurtunity for airtime and to make Dappy look bad and she pretty much couldn't believe it.

Dappy shouldn't of said it's cool for a guy to do so even though he feels Women should have Morals(which is a fair point as long as he had put it across better by saying it's not cool for Men either)...so in short...Jasmine lol, Luisa would of won the debate if she didn't decide to only take major offense to it when she had a crowd and decided to go personal.



EDIT: For the record.....5 in one night is wrong.. . Drop me out with this "they can do what they want if it is safe":laugh: [for men too,before someone tries call me sexist].

[Marsh.]

All those (girls) who agree with Luisa: Would you be up for 5 or 6 men?

I don't think people are siding with that. They're siding that whether you think it's ok or not for a man to do it, then it should be the same for a woman.

Otherwise it's a double standard.

[Northern Monkey]

To be brutally honest and graphic about it,Certain things stay in a woman for longer wheras a man can just wash off.lol.Although that does'nt stop std's spreading but it is a little more disgusting for a woman to sleep with multiple parteners in one night.Just sayin,Don't hate.

[armand.kay]

I'm in no way sexist...it's just different events that in society are deemed acceptable or not acceptable depending on whether a male or female does it.

It is still sexist.

[Z]

Don't give a **** as long as they keep arguing and take way from the Love Triangle. Jasmine won the actual debate as she put across the counter point without being personal or aggresive. Luisa saw an oppurtunity for airtime and to make Dappy look bad and she pretty much couldn't believe it.

Dappy shouldn't of said it's cool for a guy to do so even though he feels Women should have Morals(which is a fair point as long as he had put it across better by saying it's not cool for Men either)...so in short...Jasmine lol, Luisa would of won the debate if she didn't decide to only take major offense to it when she had a crowd and decided to go personal.



EDIT: For the record.....5 in one night is wrong.. . Drop me out with this "they can do what they want if it is safe":laugh: [for men too,before someone tries call me sexist].

Agree with all of this. Dappy and Luisa went about discussing an interesting topic the completely wrong way. Jasmine had the perfect response to Dappy's question but he didn't even acknowledge her because Luisa was already kicking off. They're as bad as each other but I think Dappy was making some good points; Luisa was just being condescending. She didn't even try to respond to him, she just went straight into the "I'm better than this, I'm better than you" **** and then completely lost her cool when he made a comment that got under her skin after she'd done it to him and made it clear that she's not better than this and she's not better than him. Well done Dappy, the more people push this faker the more her little superiority complex will unravel.

[Z]

5 in one night shocks me, am I getting old or is that really just nasty?

I think 2 in a night is disgusting, never mind 5. I mean "sex is sex" but come on, there's a limit...

[wendywillow]

what about a threesome?

[Spoon]

Sexist double standard from Dappy - no surprise. Either both sexes should be judged/condemned equally or neither should.

[wendywillow]

yep, if a man does it "alright stud!" a woman "you disgusting slut"

[Z]

what about a threesome?

I don't take any issue with group sex; it's a single decision made by a group of consenting people. But to have 5 separate sexual encounters with 5 separate people is completely disgusting; there's still something intimate about having sex and it just seems completely disgusting to me that someone would seek it out with so many different people in one night. I don't know if I can really explain it any better than that... I kinda feel like sex is a contract that should at least be binding for a week or two or something, even to go and have sex with a different person every night is wrong in my opinion...

[Nemo123]

Well, due to the active and passive roles in sexual intercourse, it is obviously easier for a woman to have sex with loads of men.

[Jezzy]

I don't take any issue with group sex; it's a single decision made by a group of consenting people. But to have 5 separate sexual encounters with 5 separate people is completely disgusting; there's still something intimate about having sex and it just seems completely disgusting to me that someone would seek it out with so many different people in one night. I don't know if I can really explain it any better than that... I kinda feel like sex is a contract that should at least be binding for a week or two or something, even to go and have sex with a different person every night is wrong in my opinion...

in your opinion, my opinion, and i hope in the majority opinion...

[Scream]

Whether people like it or not we all have different reactions to something if it's done by a male or female. It's not necessarily sexism, it's just how it goes!

[Jemal]

you know what.. I was gonna keep quiet cause theres alot of over sensitive people on this forum.

But for god sake? 5 men in one night? Where im from thats disgusting, and im not sexist before anyone tries to kill theirselves over it.
Also men are pigs if they do 5 women in one night.

Its just vom. And tbh if a girl is known as a slag for that then so be it. Because thats disgusting. Full stop.

Scream isnt sexist hes just speaking the truth imo.

[Nemo123]

Praise the lord for women like Luisa. Share the booty!

[Jezzy]

you know what.. I was gonna keep quiet cause theres alot of over sensitive people on this forum.

But for god sake? 5 men in one night? Where im from thats disgusting, and im not sexist before anyone tries to kill theirselves over it.
Also men are pigs if they do 5 women in one night.

Its just vom. And tbh if a girl is known as a slag for that then so be it. Because thats disgusting. Full stop.

Scream isnt sexist hes just speaking the truth imo.

Agree completely.

[Nemo123]

A man couldn't do 5 women. 2 or 3 at best, and he'd have to be a stud.

[wendywillow]

A man couldn't do 5 women. 2 or 3 at best, and he'd have to be a stud.

exactly

[Jezzy]

A stud ? Or a total desperate sleazer?

[wendywillow]

none of it bothers me. I don't think any less of her. everyone's got their own bag

[GiRTh]

Anyone who sleeps with 5 people in one night needs to reassess their lifestyle and start making changes.

[Jack_]

What Dappy was saying is sexist, misogynistic drivel and anyone that agrees with him quite frankly needs to seriously evaluate their world view because that's just hypocritical nonsense. All about the 'lad' VS 'slut' culture, it's just sad. And to hear women agreeing with him is the most saddening thing of it all for me, it just goes to show how so many of them fall victims to such an oppressive and sexist belief and culture system that's constantly perpetuated throughout the media and society.

On a separate note however I'd also like to point out that I've never...really...properly understood anyone's issue with consenting single adults that are sexually promiscuous? Like, why is it important or anyone else's business but their own? I couldn't give a sh*t what people do in their free time or how many times they do it to be quite honest, so long as the people involved are all consenting, of age and are all single (I accept that it becomes an issue when people are cheating)...what exactly is the problem here? I'm not saying that everyone has to engage in that kind of behaviour, for some sex is regarded as something about love and to be with someone you feel close to, and I accept that, but I really have never understood the massive deals people make about people sleeping around when they're single and people are consenting? For many people it's just sex, who really cares? Having terms like 'sluts' and '*****s' and 'slappers' (notice there's barely any of these kind of words for men also) bandied about so often in society is really quite depressing IMO, is what other people do in that aspect of their life really that important to anyone else but those people? There's much more pressing issues on this planet and in my life that I'd rather be focusing my attention on quite frankly.

[Natalie.]

You have put it much better than I ever could Jack

[reece(:]

And to hear women agreeing with him is the most saddening thing of it all for me, it just goes to show how so many of them fall victims to such an oppressive and sexist belief and culture system that's constantly perpetuated throughout the media and society.


Definitely spot on.

[MeMyselfAndI]

What Dappy was saying is sexist, misogynistic drivel and anyone that agrees with him quite frankly needs to seriously evaluate their world view because that's just hypocritical nonsense. All about the 'lad' VS 'slut' culture, it's just sad. And to hear women agreeing with him is the most saddening thing of it all for me, it just goes to show how so many of them fall victims to such an oppressive and sexist belief and culture system that's constantly perpetuated throughout the media and society.

On a separate note however I'd also like to point out that I've never...really...properly understood anyone's issue with consenting single adults that are sexually promiscuous? Like, why is it important or anyone else's business but their own? I couldn't give a sh*t what people do in their free time or how many times they do it to be quite honest, so long as the people involved are all consenting, of age and are all single (I accept that it becomes an issue when people are cheating)...what exactly is the problem here? I'm not saying that everyone has to engage in that kind of behaviour, for some sex is regarded as something about love and to be with someone you feel close to, and I accept that, but I really have never understood the massive deals people make about people sleeping around when they're single and people are consenting? For many people it's just sex, who really cares? Having terms like 'sluts' and '*****s' and 'slappers' (notice there's barely any of these kind of words for men also) bandied about so often in society is really quite depressing IMO, is what other people do in that aspect of their life really that important to anyone else but those people? There's much more pressing issues on this planet and in my life that I'd rather be focusing my attention on quite frankly.
:worship:

[GiRTh]

A man couldn't do 5 women. 2 or 3 at best, and he'd have to be a stud.Seriously? You've obviously never seen Big t*t Orgy 1 2 or 3.

[Nemo123]

I have opined a few times in this thread, and all my posts have been censored.

[Z]

you know what.. I was gonna keep quiet cause theres alot of over sensitive people on this forum.

But for god sake? 5 men in one night? Where im from thats disgusting, and im not sexist before anyone tries to kill theirselves over it.
Also men are pigs if they do 5 women in one night.

Its just vom. And tbh if a girl is known as a slag for that then so be it. Because thats disgusting. Full stop.

Scream isnt sexist hes just speaking the truth imo.

Yep, it's disgusting regardless of your gender, age or sexuality in my opinion.

[Spoon]

Excellent post Jack!

[Vicky.]

Sexist but a really common view.

[Vicky.]

Also it makes you a complete slut regardless of gender

[MeMyselfAndI]

I agree that either way it's a little sickening, but what Dappy originally said is that if a man has sex with 5 women in one night then hes 'cool'. But if a woman has sex with 5 men in a night, shes a slut. It wasn't until Jasmine & Luisa bought up his sexist views that he backtracked and called the man a pig.

[jet]

I posted here on page 2 that I had hit the wrong button by mistake and I was team LUISA and not Dappy on this topic but my post has disappeared. :conf:
WTH?

[MachoPoodle]

What Dappy was saying is sexist, misogynistic drivel and anyone that agrees with him quite frankly needs to seriously evaluate their world view because that's just hypocritical nonsense. All about the 'lad' VS 'slut' culture, it's just sad.

Very, very good post, Jack! :thumbs:

Some people seem to have absolutely no grasp about what sexism is, from what I've seen in this post. "I'm not sexist, but..." Yeah right. I'd like to know then, what they think sexism means?

[Jack_]

I will just forever be baffled by people's obsession with what other people do in their spare time, and how often they do it.

Cheaters and players, sure...real issues there, but sleeping around when single? Really, why do people care so much? Maybe it's just me but I'm much more bothered about whether a person is nice, caring, friendly, funny, likeable, good to be around, open minded, tolerant, has positive things to contribute to my life and the world, etc etc the list goes on...how many people they sleep with is literally the least of my worries or interests :shrug:

[Z]

I will just forever be baffled by people's obsession with what other people do in their spare time, and how often they do it.

Cheaters and players, sure...real issues there, but sleeping around when single? Really, why do people care so much? Maybe it's just me but I'm much more bothered about whether a person is nice, caring, friendly, funny, likeable, good to be around, open minded, tolerant, has positive things to contribute to my life and the world, etc etc the list goes on...how many people they sleep with is literally the least of my worries or interests :shrug:

I don't think I'm normally bothered by people's sex lives, but the topic of multiple partners in one night does bother me. I think it's a self respect thing; I feel like a person must not care much about themselves if they'll sleep with so many people in one night. To some people, it's just sex, but I just can't understand how a person who does that can do so and think they must have low self esteem.

[MachoPoodle]

I don't think I'm normally bothered by people's sex lives, but the topic of multiple partners in one night does bother me. I think it's a self respect thing; I feel like a person must not care much about themselves if they'll sleep with so many people in one night. To some people, it's just sex, but I just can't understand how a person who does that can do so and think they must have low self esteem.

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

[Jack_]

I don't think I'm normally bothered by people's sex lives, but the topic of multiple partners in one night does bother me. I think it's a self respect thing; I feel like a person must not care much about themselves if they'll sleep with so many people in one night. To some people, it's just sex, but I just can't understand how a person who does that can do so and think they must have low self esteem.

I was trying to think of a response and then this appeared...

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

...which kind of sums up my view on this and is something I touched on in a sentence in one of my other posts. I fully accept and understand that sex means different things for different people, I think that's a good thing. But I just don't understand the need for people to judge other people for their attitudes and behaviours towards and regarding sex. If some people think it should be between two people that are in love then that's perfectly cool, but for others it can just be a one off thing after a night out, or in the case of this thread multiple times during the night - I see no problem with that either. It's a personal and private issue that I think people get too worked up about, so long as all parties are consenting, of age and and single, I really think it's just their business and no one else's, there are so many other important things to be bothered about in life.

And I also think that the use of terms like 'slut' and '*****s' in society can be quite damaging, particularly to girls of course but on the whole too - I just think creating a culture where we're so obsessed with what other people do in such a private part of their lives really isn't helping anyone. Why can't we as a society encourage people to apply these strong attitudes to say idk, eradicating inequality or intolerance or something? Things that really matter to society, not how much each of us are using are cocks and ******s.

[Vicky.]

Jet you have no deleted posts in this thread :conf:

[Mystic Mock]

While Dappy is my favourite, I can't agree with him on this as it's too hypocritical imo.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I deleted all posts, do you think i am abusing my powers guys?

[power2thepeople]

The importance of the Media has quite rightly been mentioned and Dappy tried to take the moral high ground by asking how Luisa would would feel if her daughter saw the story in the paper. For a split second I put myself in the daughter's shoes....then I realised the very same situation applies to himself and his children potentially finding out how desperate he was purely for money and a hit single that he laid himself bare for the whole world to see. Now there is dodgy hypocrisy at it's finest....to put it all into perspective, she has been open and honest regarding her attitude to regular sex. He pimped footage of his tackle all over the media in a desperate attempt to get to number one. I'm surprised Luisa didn't retort back with this. He has no personal high ground whatsover to attack her as a parent. Absolute prat!

[Z]

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

I think for me it's not about judging people because they're doing something I wouldn't, rather it feels wrong to hear about people doing that because I think it goes against nature to have more than one sexual partner in a night... if that makes sense? I wouldn't judge someone for having sex five times in a night with one person; it's the requiring multiple different partners bit that gets me, that doesn't strike me as empowering, that comes across as a self esteem issue to me. Empowering would be having sex as often as you like with someone who has your sex drive; not using five people to fulfill your sexual appetite. Am I making any sense? I don't know... I don't like to think I'm being judgmental but maybe I am...

[Mystic Mock]

All I can say is if 5 hot girls came after me wanting to have sex I would take it lol. But what's unfair here is if I did do that I wouldn't get any attack for it than if a woman had sex with 5 guys, it's not fair and if it's not socially acceptable for one gender to do that then it has to be the same for the other gender too.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Is it a coincedence that there are 5 supporting dappy?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Poll Update : Tibb is Team Luisa by huge Margin !!!

[Jords]

Luisa is right.

Although Id say if a man or woman you need to sort it out.

[Z]

I haven't voted in the poll because I think the argument that transpired made Luisa look awful and while Dappy didn't come out of it much better than her, he did at least make some good points; and I feel that the poll somehow condones either of their actions... but yeah, Luisa and Jasmine are correct, Dappy is ignorant.

[Ammi]

What Dappy was saying is sexist, misogynistic drivel and anyone that agrees with him quite frankly needs to seriously evaluate their world view because that's just hypocritical nonsense. All about the 'lad' VS 'slut' culture, it's just sad. And to hear women agreeing with him is the most saddening thing of it all for me, it just goes to show how so many of them fall victims to such an oppressive and sexist belief and culture system that's constantly perpetuated throughout the media and society.

On a separate note however I'd also like to point out that I've never...really...properly understood anyone's issue with consenting single adults that are sexually promiscuous? Like, why is it important or anyone else's business but their own? I couldn't give a sh*t what people do in their free time or how many times they do it to be quite honest, so long as the people involved are all consenting, of age and are all single (I accept that it becomes an issue when people are cheating)...what exactly is the problem here? I'm not saying that everyone has to engage in that kind of behaviour, for some sex is regarded as something about love and to be with someone you feel close to, and I accept that, but I really have never understood the massive deals people make about people sleeping around when they're single and people are consenting? For many people it's just sex, who really cares? Having terms like 'sluts' and '*****s' and 'slappers' (notice there's barely any of these kind of words for men also) bandied about so often in society is really quite depressing IMO, is what other people do in that aspect of their life really that important to anyone else but those people? There's much more pressing issues on this planet and in my life that I'd rather be focusing my attention on quite frankly.

..I agree with you, Jack in that if someone is free and single and also open and honest about it..(in that they're not leading anyone on to think it's something more than sex etc..)..then it really is up to them what they do and that's regardless of gender...I don't think it's what is perceived as the 'norm' in society and that's why Jasmine was right when she said it's opinion/subjective and I think it is the sort of thing that will spark strong opinions..?..but gender shouldn't come into it...but in the argument as such, for me there isn't a 'side' because they were both as bad as each other from what I could see in that Luisa was wrong and totally out of order to comment on what Dappy's mother would think and he had a right to be angry about that..but then he countered that by making similar comments about Luisa's daughter and what she would think of her mum...two wrongs etc and they both behaved really badly in that whole argument imo...

[thesheriff443]

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to? :conf:

[thesheriff443]

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to? :conf:

of course im not:conf:

[Semtex]

I'm with Louisa on that, even though Dobby got an A* in English init.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

[Jake.]

Agree with Luisa (and not just because she is my fave), it is sexist.

Literally was going to type this, people need to forget who their faves are and look at the actualy argument in hand.

[Kyle]

you know what.. I was gonna keep quiet cause theres alot of over sensitive people on this forum.

But for god sake? 5 men in one night? Where im from thats disgusting, and im not sexist before anyone tries to kill theirselves over it.
Also men are pigs if they do 5 women in one night.

Its just vom. And tbh if a girl is known as a slag for that then so be it. Because thats disgusting. Full stop.

Scream isnt sexist hes just speaking the truth imo.

I'd love to know how many men could manage to get 5 women in one night without paying for it or being famous (and that's considering his tackle is up for the business)

On the flip side I reckon 99% of women could find 5 consenting males to have sex with if she so wished.

[Pete.]

Luisa won this hands down - Dappy showed himself up for what he is

[coolface]

doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, it's gross either way

[MrWong]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

Not if she's on the pill and using protection.

Therefor she can have as much sex as fellas.

[wendywillow]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

and if its the man doing it he would be impregging (new word) 5 women and have no way to support all of them.

[Livia]

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

[MrWong]

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

He eventually said that, after backtracking considerably.

Initially his opinion was that the man was 'cool' for sleeping with 5 women and a woman doing the same would be a *****.

[Livia]

He eventually said that, after back chatting considerably.

Initially his opinion was that the man was 'cool' for sleeping with 5 women and a woman doing the same would be a *****.

I don't recall hearing that. If that's what he said initially, then he's even more of an idiot that I initially took him for. They're both idiots, actually... and Luisa was very wrong to drag Dappy's mother into the argument to score a cheap point.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Yeah he said 'cool' & Luisa & Jasmine were not happy, he later backtracked & said Pig.

[MrWong]

Yeah he said 'cool' & Luisa & Jasmine were not happy, he later backtracked & said Pig.

He also lied and made out he'd said pig all along.

[Stevep]

I can't believe there have been 97 replies to this thread, 1 reply should have sufficed, Dappy is wrong.

You cannot claim that when a woman sleeps with 5 men she is a slut and when a bloke does sleeps with 5 women it does not equate to the same thing.

[Kazanne]

I know that it should be the same for men as it is women,why anyone would want to have sex with 5 different people in one night is beyond me but I guess it happens the thing with me that makes the deed different for men and women is for men it's all external with women it seems more 'wrong'(for want of a better word) as it all takes place internally which for some reason seems more intimate and to get different sperm in there all the time could be seen as dirty,lol I bet I've worded that wrong but hope you see what I mean,a woman is usually thought of as more particular than a man,but from what we are seeing,perhaps not,lol.

[Z]

I know that it should be the same for men as it is women,why anyone would want to have sex with 5 different people in one night is beyond me but I guess it happens the thing with me that makes the deed different for men and women is for men it's all external with women it seems more 'wrong'(for want of a better word) as it all takes place internally which for some reason seems more intimate and to get different sperm in there all the time could be seen as dirty,lol I bet I've worded that wrong but hope you see what I mean,a woman is usually thought of as more particular than a man,but from what we are seeing,perhaps not,lol.

No I get what you mean Kaz. I think that's why there is that inequality... for men it's (this is a bit disgusting :laugh:) out of their system when the act is over; for women it's not and I think that matches up with stereotypes that women are emotional and take things to heart easily (see: Casey) whereas men get it out of their system and move on to the next thing (see: Lee)... speaking in very general terms of course.

Obviously Dappy is wrong. Luisa completely undermined her argument because of what happened afterwards, so I would say Jasmine won the argument because she made good points and didn't turn it into a personal slanging match.

[smeagol]

whats this sleep thing it drives me nuts people dont sleep with eachother.
cant stand that saying. oh they slept with someone oh thats ok. er no they didnt they had wild crazy dirty sex lol.

if a woman has sex with 5 men in one night she is defentialy a slut
if aguy has sex with 5 women in a night - he is a liar lol

[Kazanne]

No I get what you mean Kaz. I think that's why there is that inequality... for men it's (this is a bit disgusting :laugh:) out of their system when the act is over; for women it's not and I think that matches up with stereotypes that women are emotional and take things to heart easily (see: Casey) whereas men get it out of their system and move on to the next thing (see: Lee)... speaking in very general terms of course.

Obviously Dappy is wrong. Luisa completely undermined her argument because of what happened afterwards, so I would say Jasmine won the argument because she made good points and didn't turn it into a personal slanging match.

Glad you got what I meant Zee,it was difficult to word without sounding sexist:hugesmile:

[Kazanne]

whats this sleep thing it drives me nuts people dont sleep with eachother.
cant stand that saying. oh they slept with someone oh thats ok. er no they didnt they had wild crazy dirty sex lol.

if a woman has sex with 5 men in one night she is defentialy a slut
if aguy has sex with 5 women in a night - he is a liar lol

:joker::joker:love it

[thesheriff443]

I'd love to know how many men could manage to get 5 women in one night without paying for it or being famous (and that's considering his tackle is up for the business)

On the flip side I reckon 99% of women could find 5 consenting males to have sex with if she so wished.

im sure if you went to a weight watcher's meeting a man could get to the number five before the break:joker:
five woman in one night, thats a good swingers venue:joker:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I was totally on Louisa side in this whole argument, Dappy is sexist pig.

[Northern Monkey]

Not if she's on the pill and using protection.

Therefor she can have as much sex as fellas.

Big IF there,Alot don't,Which is both the man and womans responsibilty,Only the woman is left with the consequences.

[Northern Monkey]

I know that it should be the same for men as it is women,why anyone would want to have sex with 5 different people in one night is beyond me but I guess it happens the thing with me that makes the deed different for men and women is for men it's all external with women it seems more 'wrong'(for want of a better word) as it all takes place internally which for some reason seems more intimate and to get different sperm in there all the time could be seen as dirty,lol I bet I've worded that wrong but hope you see what I mean,a woman is usually thought of as more particular than a man,but from what we are seeing,perhaps not,lol.

Very good point,I agree.

[MrWong]

Big IF there,Alot don't,Which is both the man and womans responsibilty,Only the woman is left with the consequences.

Was Luisa arguing that she shouldn't use protection then, whilst sleeping with 5 men? Otherwise I'm not sure why it's being brought up.

[Northern Monkey]

Was Luisa arguing that she shouldn't use protection then, whilst sleeping with 5 men? Otherwise I'm not sure why it's being brought up.

I did'nt bring up the part about using protection,I just answered it.Also protection is not a 100% fail safe,If it fails a woman is STILL left with a fatherless child.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

TiBB are on Team Luisa's side by a majority !!! Hence confirming Dappy Duck is gonna be fried by the public after tongihts episode of the fight.

[MrWong]

I did'nt bring up the part about using protection,I just answered it.Also protection is not a 100% fail safe,If it fails a woman is STILL left with a fatherless child.

You mentioned pregnancy as a reason why women can't engage with multiple partners. If she uses protection she can. Implant, pill, condoms etc..

It's still a strawman, as neither Dappy or Luisa mentioned it.

[Samm]

Luisa is the best everybody risehttp://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar59572_33.gif

[Slevin]

this lad is team Luisa over Dappy. i think its equally as bad as each other for either side.

[Northern Monkey]

You mentioned pregnancy as a reason why women can't engage with multiple partners. If she uses protection she can. Implant, pill, condoms etc..

It's still a strawman, as neither Dappy or Luisa mentioned it.

No,They were talking about why it is seen as worse for a woman to sleep with 5 men in a night than it is for a man,Hence why women seem to be called sluts for doing so.I offered some reasons as to why this could be.Also i think Kazanne has a very good point on it.The fact that a womans body has to be entered making it seem a more personal thing for a woman than a man.

[MrWong]

No,They were talking about why it is seen as worse for a woman to sleep with 5 men in a night than it is for a man,Hence why women seem to be called sluts for doing so.I offered some reasons as to why this could be.Also i think Kazanne has a very good point on it.The fact that a womans body has to be entered making it seem a more personal thing for a woman than a man.

No they weren't?

They were discussing Dappy's views that a lad is cool and a woman is a *****.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Luisa is the best everybody risehttp://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar59572_33.gif

Queen Luisa has spoken :devil:

[Marsh.]

Whether people like it or not we all have different reactions to something if it's done by a male or female. It's not necessarily sexism, it's just how it goes!

Yes, it is common. But it's still sexism.

Whether you like it or not, judging men and women unequally is sexist.

[Brother Leon]

TiBB are on Team Luisa's side by a majority !!! Hence confirming Dappy Duck is gonna be fried by the public after tongihts episode of the fight.

Dappy will finish well above Luisa and it doesn't matter what any TIBB poll says about that:xyxwave::xyxwave:

[Videostar]

According to Dappy if a women sleeps with 5 men she's a slut but if a a man sleeps with 5 women it's ok. According to Luisa he's being sexist and should be ashamed of himself. So who do you agree with? YOU DECIDE.

It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, Luisa lost the argument as soon as she resorted to personal insults with the "low IQ" comment, then bringing into the row his mother...Luisa is a silly moo.

[Videostar]

I voted, both are losers, but im not into lacey romance. :D

[Benjamin]

Dappy has some pretty **** views on women

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Dappy will finish well above Luisa and it doesn't matter what any TIBB poll says about that:xyxwave::xyxwave:

Don't be so sure about that.... :shocked:

[letmein]

It's 2014. Slut-shaming is outdated.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

BB14's Dan Just Tweeted..

"@DanNealOfficial: Dappy saying how ashamed Luisa's daughter would b of her..sure his kids will b proud he posted naked pics of himself 2 get a no.1 #CBB @bbuk"

I think he has a very good point.

[letmein]

It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, Luisa lost the argument as soon as she resorted to personal insults with the "low IQ" comment, then bringing into the row his mother...Luisa is a silly moo.

He's an idiot. She wasn't going to lower herself by getting into a fight with a moron. She was right on. He's too ignorant. The truth hurts sometimes.

[Z]

Dappy has some pretty **** views on women

He does but I think it's just a warped interpretation of respect and conduct, rather than being chauvinistic like Jim is. He thinks women should treat themselves with respect and not sleep around, they should conduct themselves like ladies, especially when they have children. And to be fair to him, I don't think he's been bragging about sexual conquests in the house - whereas Luisa was openly volunteering information about how she thinks having lots of sex is great, sex parties are great, and telling people how many people she's slept with. Dappy doesn't think that's respectable behaviour. It isn't, it's cheap and it makes her look nasty. Fair enough if she thinks it's liberating and she's happy with it, but she has to expect criticism if she's so open about her sex life - not everyone is the same.

Of course, Dappy is no angel and is by no means perfect himself, but that doesn't detract from his points about Luisa, it just means he's a hypocrite.

[sassysocks]

I'm in no way sexist...it's just different events that in society are deemed acceptable or not acceptable depending on whether a male or female does it.

Which is why such double standards have to be challenged, not pandered to.

[reece(:]

BB14's Dan Just Tweeted..

"@DanNealOfficial: Dappy saying how ashamed Luisa's daughter would b of her..sure his kids will b proud he posted naked pics of himself 2 get a no.1 #CBB @bbuk"

I think he has a very good point.
Dan speaks wise sense.

[Redway]

I prefer Luisa and I don't think it's right even though I agree with Dappy...there's something about a girl sleeping with a lot of people that seems quite disgusting whereas if it's a male it's not as bad.

Think it's worth dismissing something as more morally wrong than the other, just because one doesn't quite tickle your fancy? Does that 'argument' extend to gay people, because two men at it seems repugnant to you and find it natural that two members of the opposite gender have sex instead, so one rule for straights and another for everyone else?

Nonsense.

[MarcusMel]

How does Dappy know what will affect Luisa's daughter?
How does Luisa know how Dappy's mum will feel?

These are intentional statements aimed at hurting emotions. They have nothing to do with respecting or disrespecting a person’s freedom to enjoy the life they want to.

[MachoPoodle]

.Also i think Kazanne has a very good point on it.The fact that a womans body has to be entered making it seem a more personal thing for a woman than a man.

A woman's body has to be entered? Are you serious? What a narrow minded view on sex you must have to reason this way.

[sassysocks]

A woman's body has to be entered? Are you serious? What a narrow minded view on sex you must have to reason this way.

I have to agree, it is just an attempt at condoing such male double standards.

How personal sex is about the individuals involved and their own moral code and has little to do with things such as 'internal' or 'external' sex or indeed gender.

[Niamh.]

I agree with Luisa that he's being extremely sexist

[Northern Monkey]

A woman's body has to be entered? Are you serious? What a narrow minded view on sex you must have to reason this way.

Ok,It does'nt have to be,But it usually is.lol.Anyway who even cares anymore?I just watched last nights ep and it was hilarious.They're all friends again.

[lostalex]

who gives a ****, if you ain't hurting nobody, then do whatever the **** makes you happy.

It's the year 2014 and miserable old ****ing men are still worried about this? really?

Here's a rule, if it's not hurting anyone, then why is it bad? can anyone explain that to me?

It's pathetic for anyone to be judging people based on having sex. There are trully evil people out there hurting other people. worry about them. Stop worrying about people that are just having fun.

[chuff me dizzy]

Testing tablet, ignore me

[Kazanne]

A woman's body has to be entered? Are you serious? What a narrow minded view on sex you must have to reason this way.

It was ME that said that and if you think that's narrow minded,that's up to you,when you have sex a womans body is 'usually' entered making it more intimate for a woman ,but why bother about it we are all different its up to the individual if they want to 'sleep' around.

[MrWong]

who gives a ****, if you ain't hurting nobody, then do whatever the **** makes you happy.

It's the year 2014 and miserable old ****ing men are still worried about this? really?

Here's a rule, if it's not hurting anyone, then why is it bad? can anyone explain that to me?

It's pathetic for anyone to be judging people based on having sex. There are trully evil people out there hurting other people. worry about them. Stop worrying about people that are just having fun.

Nope.

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