Luisa admits Jim is NOT sexist

[the truth]

She also admitted she liked jim from the start and found him funny but couldnt explain at all why she had called him sexist in the second week.....she then admitted she had labelled him sexist in week 2 because she had been influenced by others.

louisa is a bit spineless and reminds me of those bitchy groups of girls in school...the ones who look down their nose at people and create a horrible peer pressure....its pathetic....BUT I applaud the fact she has at leats now admitted she was wrong to slander jim with the sexist brush. No doubt the fact her mother loves jim, caseys mother loves jim, sams mother loves jim, many millions love jim, probably affected her thought process

clearly she has benefitted enormously from lindas departure. hopefully in future instead of saying how she tells it like it is and walks her own path, she can actually live up to those words and not give in the the peer pressure of group bullying.

jimbo forgives and no doubt has learnt a lot, louisa learns and we all move forward. repentance, forgiveness and redemption can be wonderful things. sadly it wont happen with linda who is poisoned by bitter pills.

[Kazanne]

She also admitted she liked jim from the start and found him funny but couldnt explain at all why she had called him sexist in the second week.....she then admitted she had labelled him sexist in week 2 because she had been influenced by others.

louisa is a bit spineless and reminds me of those bitchy groups of girls in school...the ones who look down their nose at people and create a horrible peer pressure....its pathetic....BUT I applaud the fact she has at leats now admitted she was wrong to slander jim with the sexist brush. No doubt the fact her mother loves jim, caseys mother loves jim, sams mother loves jim, many millions love jim, probably affected her thought process

clearly she has benefitted enormously from lindas departure. hopefully in future instead of saying how she tells it like it is and walks her own path, she can actually live up to those words and not give in the the peer pressure of group bullying.

jimbo forgives and no doubt has learnt a lot, louisa learns and we all move forward. repentance, forgiveness and redemption can be wonderful things. sadly it wont happen with linda who is poisoned by bitter pills.

yes,Luisa and Jim bonding,who'de have thought it

[Patricia4]

That was a nice moment.

[chuff me dizzy]

Right thats it ,best pack up and go home ,Luisa says Jim not sexist ,so thats good enough for me ,Have I banged my head today ? has my memory for the last God knows how many years been erased forever? I remember him on his debut show years, and years ago, I dont need someone on a forum or a tv show (theyve known each other 3 weeks :bored: )to tell me everything I KNOW about Jim Davidson is wrong and they are right ,not going to happen :nono:

[Josy]

Right thats it ,best pack up and go home ,Luisa says Jim not sexist ,so thats good enough for me ,Have I banged my head today ? has my memory for the last God knows how many years been erased forever? I remember him on his debut show years, and years ago, I dont need someone on a forum or a tv show (theyve known each other 3 weeks :bored: )to tell me everything I KNOW about Jim Davidson is wrong and they are right ,not going to happen :nono:

You supported Jim until the Frank Carson drama so what you knew mustn't have bothered you that much?

[Z]

It was a nice moment

[the truth]

Right thats it ,best pack up and go home ,Luisa says Jim not sexist ,so thats good enough for me ,Have I banged my head today ? has my memory for the last God knows how many years been erased forever? I remember him on his debut show years, and years ago, I dont need someone on a forum or a tv show (theyve known each other 3 weeks :bored: )to tell me everything I KNOW about Jim Davidson is wrong and they are right ,not going to happen :nono:

well that didnt make sense....funny how you had a sense of humour and actually liked him until the frank carson line. you may rewrite history but we remember.

[the truth]

It was a nice moment

a moment of truth and reconcilliation, a moment of clarity:wavey:

[smeagol]

good news now hopefully she will iron his shirts without moaning hehe

[Jack_]

Except she didn't say he wasn't sexist, she said that made him who he was and he shouldn't change

I was actually quite disappointed in her because he openly gave her an opportunity to tell him what beliefs he needs to reconsider in order to not come across as sexist and she didn't take him up on the offer, I'd have jumped at the chance - if someone is that willing to change (quite respectable in itself actually), then give them the help they need

Once again I say this as a fan of Jim before someone jumps on me

[the truth]

Except she didn't say he wasn't sexist, she said that made him who he was and he shouldn't change

I was actually quite disappointed in her because he openly gave her an opportunity to tell him what beliefs he needs to reconsider in order to not come across as sexist and she didn't take him up on the offer, I'd have jumped at the chance - if someone is that willing to change (quite respectable in itself actually), then give them the help they need

Once again I say this as a fan of Jim before someone jumps on me

the point is she couldnt think os anything sexist he had done in the house so couldnt find any reason to justify the accusation at all. to falsely accuse someone is inverted sexism. thankfully she retracted her words

[Northern Monkey]

Except she didn't say he wasn't sexist, she said that made him who he was and he shouldn't change

I was actually quite disappointed in her because he openly gave her an opportunity to tell him what beliefs he needs to reconsider in order to not come across as sexist and she didn't take him up on the offer, I'd have jumped at the chance - if someone is that willing to change (quite respectable in itself actually), then give them the help they need

Once again I say this as a fan of Jim before someone jumps on me

Yeah but i don't think Louisa knows much about sexism herself tbh.She says Jim is sexist and then makes sexist comments herself.She thinks it only works one way.

[Robodog]

Good to see them bonding.

They have been the best 2 HMs this year.

Interesting to see Luisa's mum with love for Jim and saying how he's like Lu's dad !

Explains alot about the banter they had, puts their rows into context and leaves the series on quite a sweet, warm note.

Good that Linda left when she did as it gives Lu time to see what a negative influence she had on Lu as she admitted tonight.

[the truth]

Yeah but i don't think Louisa knows much about sexism herself tbh.She says Jim is sexist and then makes sexist comments herself.She thinks it only works one way.

exactly hopefully one day she can be as open and honest as jim and confess her own inverted sexism and double standards. she has really hurt jim and dappy needlessly with these slanderous sexism slurrs. still she admitted shes wrong , jim forgives and we move on

[Arrow]

Right thats it ,best pack up and go home ,Luisa says Jim not sexist ,so thats good enough for me ,Have I banged my head today ? has my memory for the last God knows how many years been erased forever? I remember him on his debut show years, and years ago, I dont need someone on a forum or a tv show (theyve known each other 3 weeks :bored: )to tell me everything I KNOW about Jim Davidson is wrong and they are right ,not going to happen :nono:



Ollie and now luisa both couldn't point out not even one occasion that jim has been sexist


I take it you have not spoken to jim before ? Yet speak as if you know everything about the 'real' jim davidson

[the truth]

Ollie and now luisa both couldn't point out not even one occasion that jim has been sexist


I take it you have not spoken to jim before ? Yet speak as if you know everything about the 'real' jim davidson

exactly. great reply.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But he did tell her he was sexist lol. She just thinks its not worth arguing anymore seeing as its the last few days and just wants everyone to get on.

That's what I got from it.

I would defo say she still thinks hes sexist but realises hes just a man of his time and isn't going to change so why bother now. Not everything has to be about sexism

Hes never made a secret of his sexism all these years but to be fair un pc humour is actually funny lol hence the reason I love Family Guy and South Park.

anyway it would be nice to talk about something else, they have had a real good laugh with each other the last few days.

[sampvt]

Except she didn't say he wasn't sexist, she said that made him who he was and he shouldn't change

I was actually quite disappointed in her because he openly gave her an opportunity to tell him what beliefs he needs to reconsider in order to not come across as sexist and she didn't take him up on the offer, I'd have jumped at the chance - if someone is that willing to change (quite respectable in itself actually), then give them the help they need

Once again I say this as a fan of Jim before someone jumps on me

Seems Lee,s selective memory syndrome is catching.

[joeysteele]

I am glad Luisa is saying all she is now as to Jim, the problem always was with the miserable witch that went out on friday,the whole house is far more relaxed and more fun loving since that thankfully took place.

Luisa has risen bigtime with me for her behaviour these last few days and it is great to see her getting on with Jim and having great fun with all the others too.

[MachoPoodle]

I was actually quite disappointed in her because he openly gave her an opportunity to tell him what beliefs he needs to reconsider in order to not come across as sexist and she didn't take him up on the offer, I'd have jumped at the chance - if someone is that willing to change (quite respectable in itself actually), then give them the help they need

I had pretty much the same reaction. I do think she doesn't want to have another argument so close to the end, which probably played a part, but I still think she handled it rather pathetically. Guess she's one of those who needs back up to speak up. Disappointing indeed.

[Jack_]

the point is she couldnt think os anything sexist he had done in the house so couldnt find any reason to justify the accusation at all. to falsely accuse someone is inverted sexism. thankfully she retracted her words

You know as well as I do that that isn't true, don't get me wrong - I think Jim's a nice man at heart, and he has been a really great housemate, integral to this series even - but he has made quite a few sexist remarks in his time in the house

She actually cut the conversation off because she said she didn't want an argument, it wasn't a case of her 'not being able to think of anything', she said she'd realised that that was a part of who he was (or words to that effect) and he shouldn't change

Yeah but i don't think Louisa knows much about sexism herself tbh.She says Jim is sexist and then makes sexist comments herself.She thinks it only works one way.

I don't disagree with that, there have also been a couple of unfair remarks made by Luisa and Linda that have categorised and stereotyped men which I weren't happy with, but they were part of widescale, more discreet type of gender inequality that most of us are all guilty of in our day to day lives - beliefs, ideas, traditions about the way in which both men and women should act and definitions of 'masculinity' and 'femininity' which are at their very core sexist and unequal. But combatting those ideas certainly isn't going to happen overnight and they aren't the kind of blatant, knowing sexist attitudes that some people do hold, as in they genuinely believe the things that they're saying, rather than just saying them because that's what they've been brought up to believe (as most of us have), if that makes sense

Jim has made some questionable remarks which do not necessarily stem from ideas we are brought up with, perhaps ones he may have been brought up with himself yes, but beliefs which are now slowly being ironed (quite an ironic word actually given the context) out of fashion - whereas the other remarks against men that I mentioned stem from ideas taught at birth, and whilst unfair and need addressing, are ones which aren't knowing and blatant - I hope that makes sense, it does in my head

[Jack_]

Seems Lee,s selective memory syndrome is catching.

Yes it certainly is from you Sam, you should watch it back

[JTM45]

I think it was just a game move on her part to try and get further in the game!
She's seen how popular (for some unknown reason) that Jim is and she's also noticed that her reception this week from the crowd was far more positive so she's just working it.
I think she's been great for this series but she's undoubtedly a ladder climber and will do pretty much anything to further her media profile.

[the truth]

But he did tell her he was sexist lol. She just thinks its not worth arguing anymore seeing as its the last few days and just wants everyone to get on.

That's what I got from it.

I would defo say she still thinks hes sexist but realises hes just a man of his time and isn't going to change so why bother now. Not everything has to be about sexism anyway it would be nice to talk about something else, they have had a real good laugh with each other the last few days.

He is sexist, hes never made a secret of it all these years but to be fair un pc humour is actually funny lol hence the reason I love Family Guy and South Park.

man of his time? that sounds borderline ageist and sexist? as if all men from a certain time are all sexist? nonsense. he has done nothing sexist whatsoever in that house,

he asked her for advice and asked her how he was sexist and if he was what could he do about it....she couldnt think of anything that he had done that could justify him labelling him sexist (same with dappy) the time he admitted he was sexist to her , was done when she was in floods of tears and was done to make her laugh and it worked. sadly she had chosen to forget that until now.

[Arrow]

im not 100% sure on this but did he say he was sexist to cheer her up as she was in tears saying she wanted to go home after being pulled up for being ageist ?



Got to love how if someone doesn't like jim they can pick and chose wait he says and claim it is fact


Jim sat down with lusia said he is not sexist asked her if she thinks he is
lusia said no jim asked her to point out when he has been sexist or when she believed he came across as sexist she couldn't

[daniel-lewis-1985]

This was actually turning into a nice little thread for a change but I see personal abuse is creeping in.

Cant we just all love each other? lol

[the truth]

I think it was just a game move on her part to try and get further in the game!
She's seen how popular (for some unknown reason) that Jim is and she's also noticed that her reception this week from the crowd was far more positive so she's just working it.
I think she's been great for this series but she's undoubtedly a ladder climber and will do pretty much anything to further her media profile.

she has failed to find any reason to justify her claling dappy and jim sexist in the 3 weeks theyve been there. so she was wrong and clearly now realises how wrong and plain nasty it is to label people wrongly

[the truth]

This was actually turning into a nice little thread for a change but I see personal abuse is creeping in.

Cant we just all love each other? lol

its a greta thread. jim is a legend, luisa is seeing the light and the mothers and kids who entered the house are all lovely

[Jack_]

man of his time? that sounds borderline ageist and sexist? as if all men from a certain time are all sexist? nonsense. he has done nothing sexist whatsoever in that house,

he asked her for advice and asked her how he was sexist and if he was what could he do about it....she couldnt think of anything that he had done that could justify him labelling him sexist (same with dappy) the time he admitted he was sexist to her , was done when she was in floods of tears and was done to make her laugh and it worked. sadly she had chosen to forget that until now.

You don't think Dappy's remarks that if a woman sleeps with five men in one night she's a '*****', whereas if a man does it's acceptable (or just simply a 'pig' as he backtracked and changed it to), is sexist? I mean I've enjoyed Dappy but come on, that is a very sexist and unfair attitude

[Nemo123]

Jim is an old fashioned sexist. It's in his DNA, he comes from a generation before which a woman's place was in the kitchen.
Don't know anything about Dappy.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

man of his time? that sounds borderline ageist and sexist? as if all men from a certain time are all sexist? nonsense. he has done nothing sexist whatsoever in that house,

he asked her for advice and asked her how he was sexist and if he was what could he do about it....she couldnt think of anything that he had done that could justify him labelling him sexist (same with dappy) the time he admitted he was sexist to her , was done when she was in floods of tears and was done to make her laugh and it worked. sadly she had chosen to forget that until now.

He openly said to Luisa he was a male chauvinist/sexist.

that wasn't an insult when I said being a man of his time and certainly not ageist seeing as I was not referring to him on his age but the era he became famous in when working his way through the working mens clubs.

Im not getting into a petty argument or even entertaining your outrageous remarks as usual after this comment.

Work yourself up I wont respond to the insults as it gets nowhere and you usually end up getting banned....Bored of it.

[the truth]

You don't think Dappy's remarks that if a woman sleeps with five men in one night she's a '*****', whereas if a man does it's acceptable (or just simply a 'pig' as he backtracked and changed it to), is sexist? I mean I've enjoyed Dappy but come on, that is a very sexist and unfair attitude

of course it was utter nonsense. but hes not the brightest and he did backtrack and he did amend his opinion immediately and apologised. that said, luisa brought his mother into the argument which was a very low blow and that clearly antagonised him to get hysterical. 1 man cheating on a woman is just the same as a woman cheating on a man. 1 man like lee shagging 5 different women in 5 days or luisa shagging 5 men in one night, is not my idea of a good relationship. But do I think its different for men or women? no. its the same.

that said the double standards such as the women who abuse the men in there shouting and swearing at them and labelling them sexist pigs, then for the same women to say men shouldnt swear at women or insult women, is inverted sexism. equality works both ways . ok can we move on.

[the truth]

He openly said to Luisa he was a male chauvinist/sexist.

that wasn't an insult when I said being a man of his time and certainly not ageist seeing as I was not referring to him on his age but the era he became famous in when working his way through the working mens clubs.

Im not getting into a petty argument or even entertaining you outrageous remarks as usual after this comment.

Work yourself up I wont respond to the insults as it gets nowhere....Bored of it.

he said it as a joke to cheer her up when she was crying, a fact you and luisa choose to ignore
your comment trying to insult him, pigeon hole him a man of his era is out of order

Im bored of you trying to infract posters endlessly

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Im bored of you trying to infract posters endlessly

Have a lovely evening.

Goodnight XxX

[the truth]

goodnight daniel xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Stevep]

She also admitted she liked jim from the start and found him funny but couldnt explain at all why she had called him sexist in the second week.....she then admitted she had labelled him sexist in week 2 because she had been influenced by others.

louisa is a bit spineless and reminds me of those bitchy groups of girls in school...the ones who look down their nose at people and create a horrible peer pressure....its pathetic....BUT I applaud the fact she has at leats now admitted she was wrong to slander jim with the sexist brush. No doubt the fact her mother loves jim, caseys mother loves jim, sams mother loves jim, many millions love jim, probably affected her thought process

clearly she has benefitted enormously from lindas departure. hopefully in future instead of saying how she tells it like it is and walks her own path, she can actually live up to those words and not give in the the peer pressure of group bullying.

jimbo forgives and no doubt has learnt a lot, louisa learns and we all move forward. repentance, forgiveness and redemption can be wonderful things. sadly it wont happen with linda who is poisoned by bitter pills.

Strange post.

Seems odd to use Luisa now to prove the point that Jim is not sexist when i presume earlier you dismissed her views when she disagreed with your own? Seems odd that you'd now use her views as a definitive case to prove that Jim is not sexist.

I don;t have an issue with Jim, i do feel he is a tad sexist, but it's more out of banter than anything else. Not all that clued up with his past, so i could be wrong but there you go.

[the truth]

Strange post.

Seems odd to use Luisa now to prove the point that Jim is not sexist when i presume earlier you dismissed her views when she disagreed with your own? Seems odd that you'd now use her views as a definitive case to prove that Jim is not sexist.

I don;t have an issue with Jim, i do feel he is a tad sexist, but it's more out of banter than anything else. Not all that clued up with his past, so i called be wrong but there you go.

i knew he wasnt a sexist anyway. hes done nothing sexist in there at all. hes been a good team player, hes been funny, helpful warm, hes also been quite maternal and helped people when theyre down too.

the point here is the only 2 people who labelled him sexist pig are linda and louisa...linda is evil and shes gone. now finally luisa is not under her control and admits she was influenced by linda and thats probably why she wrongly labelled jim a sexist. her mum too loves jim, as does caseys mum and sams mum.....in fact everyone is getting on with jim now that the poison has been removed from the house.

not a strange post at all.

[abhorson]

Oh come on, THIS IS LUISA and plan B. If it fails then suck up.

[Kizzy]

He doesn't want to change... he was taking the pee! :laugh:

[abhorson]

he said it as a joke to cheer her up when she was crying, a fact you and luisa choose to ignore
your comment trying to insult him, pigeon hole him a man of his era is out of order

Im bored of you trying to infract posters endlessly


Agreed. this has been said noodles of times. There will be more i am sure.

[optimisticcynic]

You don't think Dappy's remarks that if a woman sleeps with five men in one night she's a '*****', whereas if a man does it's acceptable (or just simply a 'pig' as he backtracked and changed it to), is sexist? I mean I've enjoyed Dappy but come on, that is a very sexist and unfair attitude

I doubt either a man or woman would put such activity as their opening gambit on a dating website. Dappy's not the sharpest tool in the box and a lot of the music industry does objectify women, and I don't think Dappy's views are particularly harmful to anyone. It's just hypocrisy as opposed to sexism as would be seen in an unfaithful party in a marriage. They may enjoy what they are doing but would still likely be aggrieved to find their other half doing the same.

[rionablue]

Just wondering why all his nominations were for women :conf: and most of the bad stuff he said was also regarding to the female housemates. :conf:

[abhorson]

Just wondering why all his nominations were for women :conf: and most of the bad stuff he said was also regarding to the female housemates. :conf:

Did you not watch? All the crap came fom women.

[the truth]

Just wondering why all his nominations were for women :conf: and most of the bad stuff he said was also regarding to the female housemates. :conf:

all the abuse and sexism came from the women, but all under the major influence of the bitterest hm ever

[Kizzy]

Jim is sexist, he was sexist before he went in the house, in the house and he will still be sexist when he leaves the house.

[rusticgal]

Luisa has been a good housemate....but I am disappointed in her sudden backtracking.... Poor Jim took a lot of stick from Linda and Luisa and jasmine. Now Linda and jasmine have left she has finally decided to evaluate him without prejudice.....too late in my books....now everyone seeing this 'sweet' side of her.

She isn't pulling the wool over my eyes....

[Cherie]

I think it was just a game move on her part to try and get further in the game!
She's seen how popular (for some unknown reason) that Jim is and she's also noticed that her reception this week from the crowd was far more positive so she's just working it.
I think she's been great for this series but she's undoubtedly a ladder climber and will do pretty much anything to further her media profile.

I do agree there is a little bit of gameplaying going on, having said that the tide turned for Luisa in the Mutts Nuts, she was able to see for herself how bitter (her words) Linda was coming across and how unfair it was of her to bring issues into the house from 30 years ago.

[Cherie]

Jim is sexist, he was sexist before he went in the house, in the house and he will still be sexist when he leaves the house.


In all honesty does it really matter if he is sexist? he is from a generation where sexism was rife so old habits die hard. If we believe that everyone is entitled to free speech, then is Jimbo not entltled to air his views and beliefs. We don't have to agree with them!

[camertone]

they are both sexist..

[Gusto Brunt]

Who cares what she says.

She's only saying it to win votes because she knew before Linda left Jim was more popular than her (Luisa).

Now she wants to steal a few of his fans and win more votes.

The scheming ****.

[Pincho Paxton]

Luisa has been a good housemate....but I am disappointed in her sudden backtracking.... Poor Jim took a lot of stick from Linda and Luisa and jasmine. Now Linda and jasmine have left she has finally decided to evaluate him without prejudice.....too late in my books....now everyone seeing this 'sweet' side of her.

She isn't pulling the wool over my eyes....

She doesn't watch on the cameras like we do. If she is with Linda, or Casey she does not see Jim hardly at all. Then Jim walks in, and talks about women should iron shirts. that's all she sees.

[Kizzy]

In all honesty does it really matter if he is sexist? he is from a generation where sexism was rife so old habits die hard. If we believe that everyone is entitled to free speech, then is Jimbo not entltled to air his views and beliefs. We don't have to agree with them!

The 'generation' game?... Do me a favour! :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Who made Jim Davidson ,alcholic, wifebeater,sexist,racist,homophobic,disabled hater into a God

[Cherie]

Who made Jim Davidson ,alcholic, wifebeater,sexist,racist,homophobic,disabled hater into a God


How on earth did you ever support him? What was different about his past on Day 1 in the House to now?

[anne666]

What a domineering conversation that was! She got very little chance to speak over Jim and his covert "vote for me I'm totally innocent" speech. No Linda made him "Look" sexist. Not his fault at all. Then we had the "I'm not homophobic" speech. BB's campaign of, Jim to Win, too.? It was blatantly and crudely obvious. What have Channel 5 got invested in him, is more to the point.This leopard has changed his spots, overnight! LOL:dance:

[flamingGalah!]

Who made Jim Davidson ,alcholic, wifebeater,sexist,racist,homophobic,disabled hater into a God

How on earth did you ever support him? What was different about his past on Day 1 in the House to now?

Yes funny how none of that mattered to you before he mentioned the dreaded words "Frank Carson's Dressing Room"... Before then he was your favourite lol :joker:

[the truth]

Who made Jim Davidson ,alcholic, wifebeater,sexist,racist,homophobic,disabled hater into a God

hes none of those things, it is actually bigotted to wrongly label people

[the truth]

Yes funny how none of that mattered to you before he mentioned the dreaded words "Frank Carson's Dressing Room"... Before then he was your favourite lol :joker:

exactly its ridiculous and displays such fickleness lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

hes none of those things, it is actually bigotted to wrongly label people

Yes it is.

[the truth]

Yes it is.

glad you agree its wrong how many here label jim:wavey:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

glad you agree its wrong how many here label jim:wavey:

Im not specifically referring to Jim I just agree with you that its bigoted to wrongly label people in general.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You seem to be the advocator of all that is right so please substantiate your claim with evidence and please lets try to make it real stuff, not crap that happened over 25 years ago.

My comment was that it is wrong to label people in general and its bigoted. I actually agreed through gritted teeth with TheTruth for once. Its not a personal post about Jim its about everyone.

It is actually wrong to label someone something they are not without any evidence to back it up.

I didn't mention Jim at all.

Don't start getting all personal again I cant be arsed lol.

[the truth]

My comment was that it is wrong to label people in general and its bigoted. I actually agreed through gritted teeth with TheTruth for once. Its not a personal post about Jim its about everyone.

It is actually wrong to label someone something they are not without any evidence to back it up.

I didn't mention Jim at all.

Don't start getting all personal again I cant be arsed lol.

dont tell me what to do lol

Its wrong how they labelled and slandered jim but its majestic how hes turned it all around simply through being a good bloke , forgiving and hilarious too

bravo jimbo lad

[sampvt]

My comment was that it is wrong to label people in general and its bigoted. I actually agreed through gritted teeth with TheTruth for once. Its not a personal post about Jim its about everyone.

It is actually wrong to label someone something they are not without any evidence to back it up.

I didn't mention Jim at all.

Don't start getting all personal again I cant be arsed lol.

I actually deleted my post but not in time. I just knew what you would say. I am sick of arguing with someone that barks at the moon when someone challenges his views. You have not offered a shred of evidence that Jim is in any way a bad person yet you get all shirty when your views are challenged. You simply cant see that its you that offers no correctness so I will leave you out in future, you just love to wind people up, that much is very evident.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

dont tell me what to do lol

Its wrong how they labelled and slandered jim but its majestic how hes turned it all around simply through being a good bloke , forgiving and hilarious too

bravo jimbo lad

What are you talking about? I said I agreed with you that its wrong to label someone without evidence and makes someone a bigot if they do so.

How is that telling you what to do?

Baffled :conf:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I actually deleted my post but not in time. I just knew what you would say. I am sick of arguing with someone that barks at the moon when someone challenges his views. You have not offered a shred of evidence that Jim is in any way a bad person yet you get all shirty when your views are challenged. You simply cant see that its you that offers no correctness so I will leave you out in future, you just love to wind people up, that much is very evident.

What are you on about I AGREED that people sholdnt be labelled without evidence as its bigoted.

I agreed with TheTruth over a comment that was made about Jim.

I just wish you would read my posts correctly and not get personal and start attacking every single post I make its beyond tedious now.

[sampvt]

What are you on about I AGREED that people sholdnt be labelled without evidence as its bigoted.

I agreed with TheTruth over a comment that was made about Jim.

I just wish you would read my posts correctly and not get personal and start attacking every single post I make its beyond tedious now.

Seems like everyone is wrong and you are the only one right again. Amazing logic.

[smeagol]

This was actually turning into a nice little thread for a change but I see personal abuse is creeping in.

Cant we just all love each other? lol

group hug - naked style lol

[the truth]

Seems like everyone is wrong and you are the only one right again. Amazing logic.

in fairness daniel has agreed its wrong how the women in the house like linda and luisa and even sam labelled jim. thats good. we move on

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Seems like everyone is wrong and you are the only one right again. Amazing logic.

Oh yes because me saying I agree with someones post is calling someones opinion wrong.

Its the exact opposite lol.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

in fairness daniel has agreed its wrong how the women in the house like linda and luisa and even sam labelled jim. thats good. we move on

I agree Luisa and Jim have both overstepped the mark with each other, they have both said some pretty hateful things to each other but they have been great housemates.

Linda was just a knob.

[the truth]

I agree Luisa and Jim have both overstepped the mark with each other, they have both said some pretty hateful things to each other but they have been great housemates.

Linda was just a knob.

You actually said its wrong to label people. we were discussing jim , so do you think its worng the way linda and luisa labelled him?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You actually said its wrong to label people. we were discussing jim , so do you think its worng the way linda and luisa labelled him?

I just agreed that it was wrong to label people in general I aint getting into that whole Jim/Luisa/Linda argument again lol its just a can of worms.

Linda obviously had reason to accuse and call him the things she did but she went about it all the wrong way and Jim came out on top.

[the truth]

I just agreed that it was wrong to label people in general I aint getting into that whole Jim/Luisa/Linda argument again lol its just a can of worms.

Linda obviously had reason to accuse and call him the things she did but she went about it all the wrong way and Jim came out on top.

she didnt obviously have any reasons to slander him and provided no credible reason for her endless abuse of him
if its wrong to label people in general why isnt it wrong to label jim in there? when hes done nothing in there to warrant the slander?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

she didnt obviously have any reasons to slander him and provided no credible reason for her endless abuse of him
if its wrong to label people in general why isnt it wrong to label jim in there? when hes done nothing in there to warrant the slander?

The thing is we don't know whats gone on between those 2 in the past and why so many other people who have met him in the outside world are all saying the same thing about him.

Plus we only see 46 minutes a day and when it comes to nominations or diary room chats a lot of people are saying hes been saying sexist things which obviously have not been aired.

Without live feed we will never know unfortunately, this is why live feed is crucial because we are all debating over a highly edited show which may not actually represent whats actually happening in the house 100%.

Really hope we get online live feed again for Civillian BB I would even pay for it because then the forum could really have discussions with proper evidence of the true events going on in the house.

I feel like yes he probably has made sexist remarks but who doesn't, I make homophobic remarks as a joke and very much make un pc jokes but with no bad intent. I just think everyone has become way to PC and Jim has built his comedic career around these kind of jokes which isn't a bad thing.

I say lets get Roy Chubby Brown in for the next series lol.

[sampvt]

The thing is we don't know whats gone on between those 2 in the past and why so many other people who have met him in the outside world are all saying the same thing about him.

Plus we only see 46 minutes a day and when it comes to nominations or diary room chats a lot of people are saying hes been saying sexist things which obviously have not been aired.

Without live feed we will never know unfortunately, this is why live feed is crucial because we are all debating over a highly edited show which may not actually represent whats actually happening in the house 100%.

Really hope we get online live feed again for Civillian BB I would even pay for it because then the forum could really have discussions with proper evidence of the true events going on in the house.

I feel like yes he probably has made sexist remarks but who doesn't, I make homophobic remarks as a joke and very much make un pc jokes but with no bad intent. I just think everyone has become way to PC and Jim has built his comedic career around these kind of jokes which isn't a bad thing.

I say lets get Roy Chubby Brown in for the next series lol.

The point we are all trying to make is that you advocate that it is wrong to label someone yet you wont admit that its wrong to label Jim. I simply don't get what you are trying to say. Linda never told anyone why she hated Jim because she didn't have anything specific, just a sheer hatred of a man that took her hubby to task for being a thief. It is very easy to cast stones or slander anyone offering no reason yet Jim has done nothing wrong in the house and you still wont offer any reason why you label him as a bad person.

Hopefully now you can see our frustration at your posts when you wont address the topic we are discussing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The point we are all trying to make is that you advocate that it is wrong to label someone yet you wont admit that its wrong to label Jim. I simply don't get what you are trying to say. Linda never told anyone why she hated Jim because she didn't have anything specific, just a sheer hatred of a man that took her hubby to task for being a thief. It is very easy to cast stones or slander anyone offering no reason yet Jim has done nothing wrong in the house and you still wont offer any reason why you label him as a bad person.

Hopefully now you can see our frustration at your posts when you wont address the topic we are discussing.

First of all who is we all? Is it me against the rest of the forum or something? I have said that anybody who claims someone is a sexist or homophobe ect with no evidence is a bigot im talking about everyone and anyone in the world in general this includes us and all the housemates including Linda, Luisa and Jim.

Secondly I am not labelling Jim as a bad person ive said hes been a great housemate and I want him and Luisa in the top 2.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read this post thoroughly and not just glance through it then we wont have to keep going over the same thing over and over again.

To summarise:

Yes I think calling someone a sexist, racist, homophobe, HETROPHOBE with nothing to back it up makes you a bigot.

People are offended by Jim simply by his sense of humour but to be honest I don't give a sh!t. None of us know what really goes on in that house without live feed therefor none of us have proof of what has or hasn't been said.

I think this video sums up why some people find Jim "sexist"

ps-Rmiv6Dow

Finally please stop telling me "what I do" lol.

[sampvt]

First of all who is we all? Is it me against the rest of the forum or something? I have said that anybody who claims someone is a sexist or homophobe ect with no evidence is a bigot im talking about everyone and anyone in the world in general this includes us and all the housemates including Linda, Luisa and Jim.

Secondly I am not labelling Jim as a bad person ive said hes been a great housemate and I want him and Luisa in the top 2.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read this post thoroughly and not just glance through it then we wont have to keep going over the same thing over and over again.

To summarise:

Yes I think calling someone a sexist, racist, homophobe, HETROPHOBE with nothing to back it up makes you a bigot.

I think this may be why some people call him sexist though lol

People are offended by Jim simply by his sense of humour but to be honest I don't give a sh!t. None of us know what really goes on in that house without live feed therefor none of us have proof of what has or hasn't been said.

I think this video sums up why some people find Jim "sexist"

ps-Rmiv6Dow

Posting videos like this only serves to bait Jim supporters even further. Was there any reason for this, you are so far off topic its a joke and I think you did it to get a rise out of people who support jim.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Posting videos like this only serves to bait Jim supporters even further. Was there any reason for this, you are so far off topic its a joke and I think you did it to get a rise out of people who support jim.

OMG you didn't even have time to read my post you just glanced and jumped straight back in with an attack! lol This just proves to me now that you never read through my posts and that is why whenever you respond it doesn't make any sense at all and you accuse me of not answering questions when I do....You simply cant be arsed to read them lol.

I said I don't give a sh!t about his humour but posted the video to show why some peoples opinion wont change on him, I personally find the video funny but Some people don't like him and never will....Why does that bother you so much?

Get over it.

[Z]

The point we are all trying to make is that you advocate that it is wrong to label someone yet you wont admit that its wrong to label Jim. I simply don't get what you are trying to say. Linda never told anyone why she hated Jim because she didn't have anything specific, just a sheer hatred of a man that took her hubby to task for being a thief. It is very easy to cast stones or slander anyone offering no reason yet Jim has done nothing wrong in the house and you still wont offer any reason why you label him as a bad person.

Hopefully now you can see our frustration at your posts when you wont address the topic we are discussing.

Great post sampvt

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Great post sampvt

It wasn't a great post AT ALL lol I answered every single point of that in a previous comment.

:joker:

[Z]

It wasn't a great post AT ALL lol I answered every single point of that in a previous comment.

:joker:

Oh I didn't bother reading whatever problem there is between the two of you, I just thought that:

Linda never told anyone why she hated Jim because she didn't have anything specific, just a sheer hatred of a man that took her hubby to task for being a thief. It is very easy to cast stones or slander anyone offering no reason yet Jim has done nothing wrong in the house and you still wont offer any reason why you label him as a bad person.

was a really good explanation of the Jim/Linda situation in terms of why people support Jim.