Serious answers needed to possible serious problem.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Long winded but responses would be greatly appreciated.

This is a bit personal so a bit cringe but I need to talk and tibb are like family (****ing love some and ****ing hate some) but all give good opinons.

As you know I went for an operation 2 weeks back and everything was fine, 2 days ago I became light headed and feverish my clinic advised me to go to A&E.

I didn't go because I felt I was over reacting which is our usual British attitude.

Today I woke up with severe pins and needles in my limbs and pain in my calf but thought just get on with it. Went to the shops and almost passed out in Tescos rushed home white as a sheet and just collapsed to the bed head and legs pulsing like mad.

I finally gave in and booked a taxi for a&e, when I got there I told all my symptoms and told the doctor I have had recent surgery as obviously there is a risk of blood clotting when annasthetic is used.

She sent in a student nurse (GREAT) who took 5 attempts to draw blood from my fingers for some sugar test and jokingly said my hands were freezing which filled me with confidence. Blood pressure done which had gone from 93 to 100 which I assume is normal.

The supposed real nurse comes back wont acknowledge anything I told her about nausa, fainting pain in limbs and said we are the NHS you had this done privately I cant help you and showed me the door.

Got home, fainted again but am now screwed because ive already been there, what have my taxes been paying for? It was the NHS who told me to go private because of waiting lists aswell.

So anyway here I am feeling like a dick and worrying that im gonna end up in the tibb remembrance thread in the sky.

Opinions?

[Vicky.]

I dont understand why the NHS wont treat you...even if the op was done privately the NHS still have a duty of care surely? :S

[Pete.]

wth? that is stupid! have you consulted your gp recently? would it be helpful to go to a local walk in clinic to see what they can do if urgent now or you can go to your gp tomorrow?

I don't think it is anything immediately serious (I don't know how painful all the symptoms are ofc)

You could always try an online diagnostic if you are extremely worried

[Lee.]

I agree with Vicky.. My sister just had surgery privately and like you, suspected a blood clot.. She phoned NHS24 and they told her to go directly to A&E where she was checked immediately. :conf:
I'd phone your GP in the morning or NHS24 tonight even.

[Livia]

I hope you have the name of the nurse... although that will be on your record. I'd contact my GP in the morning and tell him/her what's happened. I'm sure you'll get some reassurance and a referral. It's disgraceful you weren't dealt with properly and once you're feeling better you need to make a fuss. Contact the hospital's management and your MP.

Hope you feel better soon.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I dont understand why the NHS wont treat you...even if the op was done privately the NHS still have a duty of care surely? :S

I was shocked and it was even like she begrudged treating me like I thought going private was demeaning her or some ****. She had a very bad attitude when all I wanted was some reassurance.

All these symptoms are warning signs to look out for after surgery and to just get a student in for 10 minutes and show me the door was not only embaressing but left me even more worried.

Just got off the phone to NHS direct or whoever they are and they told me to buy some deep thrombosis sock thingys which are used to reduce the risk of clots which is exactly what I was fearing.

This nurse didn't think of that nor offer me any of those precautionary garments.

What a state of a health system, last time I was n they couldn't even provide me with a pillow for the night.

[Vicky.]

Honestly, if I was in your situation I would go back to A+E and threaten to die in their waiting room. I see no reason for them to not treat you, at all. And as far as I know private surgeries dont have A+Es anyway, you have to get appointments? It could be serious...

[Vanessa]

I think you should go to A&E. What if you get worse? I wouldn't take any chances.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I agree with Vicky.. My sister just had surgery privately and like you, suspected a blood clot.. She phoned NHS24 and they told her to go directly to A&E where she was checked immediately. :conf:
I'd phone your GP in the morning or NHS24 tonight even.

So they knew the seriousness of the situation and she was seen and properly examened?

Was she ok?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Oh forgot to say I was also told to go to bed and rest which im pretty sure is the worst thing you can do is remain immobile when there is a risk of clotting.

[Marsh.]

I don't understand why having an op privately stops the NHS treating any issues you are now having afterwards. :conf:

You should go back and faint in the waiting room, scare the s**t out of them.

[Vicky.]

Oh forgot to say I was also told to go to bed and rest which im pretty sure is the worst thing you can do is remain immobile when there is a risk of clotting.

Yeah thats awful advice if theres a chance of it being DVT or something D:

You need to be up walking about every few hours or so. Think of the advice you get on a long haul flight...

I would go back. This nurse sounds seriously ****. I would also put in a very strongly worded complaint to the NHS.

[Lee.]

So they knew the seriousness of the situation and she was seen and properly examened?

Was she ok?

Yes.. They took it very seriously. Her surgery was varicose vein removal and her leg was very hard and swollen plus she was breathless and having chest pains :/
They scanned her and did blood tests and assured her she was fine.. She then had her follow up appointment with the private clinic brought forward and they checked her again.
Thankfully she was fine and has made a full recovery.

[the truth]

You cant get a conclusive answer on blood clots from a blood test alone...in fact a blood test tells you very little, its a cheap way of the nurses brushing off patients,,,,.you need to get a proper scan on the dopler machine in the hospital. Ensure the doctor gets you on the dopler and insist you simply wont get off the phone until this is agreed. I doubt they operate these machines after 5pm though
if nayone at the hospital brushes you off do not accept it. Do not get off the phone until you have this booked in. Ask the doctor what are your options and perhaps he will put you on wafrin for afew days until you get the scan. Once you then know if its a clot or not they will decide on the thickness of the warfarin needed.
Once your on that you should then be ok. I have one mate who is on it for life. He got brushed off several times by usless nurses before he got a scan on a dopler

then wortry about complaininvg about these heartless incompetent b******s at a later date

ps im not medically qualified just have a bit of experience in this area, as most of us do. Keep us updated and good luck

[the truth]

Yeah thats awful advice if theres a chance of it being DVT or something D:

You need to be up walking about every few hours or so. Think of the advice you get on a long haul flight...

I would go back. This nurse sounds seriously ****. I would also put in a very strongly worded complaint to the NHS.

THATS more to do with the air pressure on planes.
obviously moving is good and I think elevating your legs is also good.
mind you i know some people bedbound for 5 years or more who never had clots

[joeysteele]

Daniel, I would go back to a&e. You should be seen by a Doctor and when you do tell him your experience and your fears too.

In your place,I would ring 999 and have paramedics come out, often they know more what is going on than some at the hopsitals unbelievably.
If you are really worried, get them out, it is not a waste of time and they can do vital checks too and also may take you to a&e anyway.
Good luck but if you are worried and don't feel right then get them out.

[mizzy25]

I would do as joey says, I cant believe they turned you away. I really hope you got that nurses name? Get well soon and I hope u r ok?

[Lee.]

Did you lose a lot of blood during your operation Daniel?

[the truth]

Daniel, I would go back to a&e. You should be seen by a Doctor and when you do tell him your experience and your fears too.

In your place,I would ring 999 and have paramedics come out, often they know more what is going on than some at the hopsitals unbelievably.
If you are really worried, get them out, it is not a waste of time and they can do vital checks too and also may take you to a&e anyway.
Good luck but if you are worried and don't feel right then get them out.

yes 999 is an option. there is nothing to fear but fear itself. he simply needs to be throughly checked over, this would also give him peace of mind. he must insist on getting a scan urgently and not be talked out of it by evasive hospital staff

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You cant get a conclusive answer on blood clots from a blood test alone...in fact a blood test tells you very little, its a cheap way of the nurses brushing off patients,,,,.you need to get a proper scan on the dopler machine in the hospital. Ensure the doctor gets you on the dopler and insist you simply wont get off the phone until this is agreed. I doubt they operate these machines after 5pm though
if nayone at the hospital brushes you off do not accept it. Do not get off the phone until you have this booked in. Ask the doctor what are your options and perhaps he will put you on wafrin for afew days until you get the scan. Once you then know if its a clot or not they will decide on the thickness of the warfarin needed.
Once your on that you should then be ok. I have one mate who is on it for life. He got brushed off several times by usless nurses before he got a scan on a dopler

then wortry about complaininvg about these heartless incompetent b******s at a later date

ps im not medically qualified just have a bit of experience in this area, as most of us do. Keep us updated and good luck

The only blood they tested was my blood sugar which would barely come out of my finger and took 5 attempts which is a bit worrying the other was just a blood pressure thingy which would not pick up a clot.

I agree I was expecting something to be done urgent and taken seriously, I was told about that scan thing when in private after care and that is really what is needed to conclusively say if it is or isn't a clot.

Im just in an impossible situation now, stay in bed and put myself at risk, stay mobile and ****ing pass out.

Honestly these pins and needles are driving me up the ****ing wall aswell!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll just leave it till the morning and hope I don't turn into the blob.

[Vicky.]

Daniel ring 999 and get an ambulance out. They will HAVE to check you properly then.

Dont wanna be the one who scares you, but a blood clot can cause serious damage. I am talking the clot travelling and blocking your heart/lungs ****.

They should give you a shot when you get there, I'm not certain what it does but its to stop blood clots. It does you no harm if you dont have one, but will help if you do. My sis had this last year, turned out to be a very tiny clot that wasnt serious but if it had been left it might have been...the only indication she had one was a really strange looking bruise/rash thing and slight cramps. You seem to have every symptom going :/

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Did you lose a lot of blood during your operation Daniel?

I cant remember I was so doped out on Morphine does it make a difference? Ive done all this WebMD now and wish I hadn't its just saying dvt, clot, nurve damage all the worst scenarios lol gotta love the internet.

The fact is bad circulation would cause a clot right? She said the test to show my blood pressure would pick up on that which I don't believe is true.

I feel ok at the moment now just the tingling so im going to leave it till the morning.

[the truth]

I agree with vicky.....theyre probably quite quiet on a tuesday night.....they will come out tets your oxygen levels, heart rate, etc nothing scary....dont take any **** daniel off the idiots who answer phones in the doctors surgery or evasive staff....GET the dopler test get conclusive answers. speak to your doctor urgently. write down questions you want to ask the doc before you speak to the doc.
the doc may put you on warfrin for a few days.....but at the end of the day you have to get properly scanned, maybe the result will be negative...at least youll have peace of mind
if you call the ambulance take your ipod and a few books in case they keep u in overnight

[Lee.]

I cant remember I was so doped out on Morphine does it make a difference? Ive done all this WebMD now and wish I hadn't its just saying dvt, clot, nurve damage all the worst scenarios lol gotta love the internet.

The fact is bad circulation would cause a clot right? She said the test to show my blood pressure would pick up on that which I don't believe is true.

I feel ok at the moment now just the tingling so im going to leave it till the morning.

I don't know really.. What did you have surgery on?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Daniel ring 999 and get an ambulance out. They will HAVE to check you properly then.

Dont wanna be the one who scares you, but a blood clot can cause serious damage. I am talking the clot travelling and blocking your heart/lungs ****.

They should give you a shot when you get there, I'm not certain what it does but its to stop blood clots. It does you no harm if you dont have one, but will help if you do. My sis had this last year, turned out to be a very tiny clot that wasnt serious but if it had been left it might have been...the only indication she had one was a really strange looking bruise/rash thing and slight cramps. You seem to have every symptom going :/

I really really don't want to call 999 I know im being stupid but everyone in my street will be out in force to see whats going on.

Theres an alternative number I think is it 111? I may call them and see what they say.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Serious post please call an ambulance

[joeysteele]

I cant remember I was so doped out on Morphine does it make a difference? Ive done all this WebMD now and wish I hadn't its just saying dvt, clot, nurve damage all the worst scenarios lol gotta love the internet.

Honestly Daniel, you can drive yourself mad going round in circles, I normally never give advice but I have found with others dialling 999 and getting the paramedics out a really good way to get seen to and get results.
It sounds to me like you need full blood tests and blood pressure and pulse taken a fair few times and likely other tests too.

Don't be fobbed off, you have right to be treated and seen to when concerned, please get the paramedics out,tell them you feel really off and feel like you will faint too.
Never mess around with your health and don;t let others do so either.
It may be nothing, it may be minor but better safe than sorry. Good luck.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't know really.. What did you have surgery on?

The right arm and chest area due to an old break.

[Vicky.]

I really really don't want to call 999 I know im being stupid but everyone in my street will be out in force to see whats going on.

Theres an alternative number I think is it 111? I may call them and see what they say.

111 is the kinda...non emergency 999, they talk through your symptoms then get a doc to call you back in most cases. They will probably tell you to go in, but this might not help. If you arrive by ambulance they have to check you thoroughly, this is seriously the best option. Your neighbours will get over it...or just tell ambulance that its hard to get down your street or something and you will meet them at the entrance to your estate or something..if you feel up to that?

[joeysteele]

I really really don't want to call 999 I know im being stupid but everyone in my street will be out in force to see whats going on.

Theres an alternative number I think is it 111? I may call them and see what they say.

111 may not result in getting paramedics to your home, please don't give a hoot as to what neighbours think, take care,really.

[Conzors]

Go back to A&E or go to your GP as an emergency appt.
Whether you were operated on privately or not is nothing to do with anything.

This is you now and how your feeling now not how you were feeling during private care.

[Marsh.]

You can't risk your health because of nosy neighbours.

[Lee.]

The right arm and chest area due to an old break.

It's possible they've pinched a nerve or something? Regardless, I'd definitely phone NHS24 tonight! Blood clots can move quickly.. And you'll be able to relax and sleep better if you have your mind put at ease.. Explain to them how worried you are about it being a clot.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

ARGH! It was all going so well lol ok im gonna give it an hour or so, stay on my feet if it this fainting **** happens again then no coice im calling 999.

The hospital is so faraway it cost £30 in taxis today reckon that bitch owes me since I paid my taxes for her to treat me like a human being. Hate the NHS though it stinks of piss and there was rubbish on the floor, its probably safer to stay at home!!!!

Shes getting a serious complaint.

[mizzy25]

I think were all in agreement u need to ring for an ambulance Daniel fook the neighbours!

[the truth]

yeh fck the nosey neighbours....taske your ipod and books to avoid boredom too.....can u get online at the hospital? you cna maybe keep us posted

[jackc1806]

Good luck Daniel :)
Don't take any chances with your health, call an ambulance if you feel you need too! Don't be put off by neighbours ect :)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ok hour on feet: Slightly light headed, headache, sore ankles not as bad as before.

Im going to leave it for tonight, set my alarm clock for every 1 hour to wake me up which is going to be fun.

Call my emergency clinic in London and get advice from them and hopefully they can relay the info to the incompetent ****s in Cardiff.

Then a trip back to a different a&e filled with the proper information so I can talk at them and let them know that after their nurse discharged me without proper checks I passed out.

Overall be a stubborn **** and insist they treat me like someone who has just had surgery and is concerned and not make me feel like im wasting their time, if all else fails i'll do a Gillian McKeith infront of the awaiting ambulances outside.

Perfect.

I defo aint myself as usually I would not have left the hospital without satisfaction and would have asked for a different nurse.

ARGH this is sooo annoying.

Keep you updated and thanks for all the advice, last thing I wanted to do was share on facebook Very tacky and attention seeking, why would anyone want to post a pic of them with a drip in their arm then not say what its for?....To get the 60 odd comments and lap up the attention.

[Josy]

The nurse had no right to send you away, infact that could be described as negligence I think, they have a duty of care and they are supposed to investigate to find out what the problem is, she should have sent you for a scan asap tbh.

I agree with others that have said go back or even phone the nhs 24 and they might get you in?

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

[Livia]

Wish you well Daniel, take care of yourself. x

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The nurse had no right to send you away, infact that could be described as negligence I think, they have a duty of care and they are supposed to investigate to find out what the problem is, she should have sent you for a scan asap tbh.

I agree with others that have said go back or even phone the nhs 24 and they might get you in?

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks Josy :) and to everyone else, calmed me down a bit seeing as you have been so brutally honest.

That's what I needed not some "professional" telling me im fine and go to bed. If this is negligence then she wont hear the ****ing last of it.

Anyway off to catch some shut eye, say a little prayer lol.

[Vicky.]

Whatever you think is best...mind you, if tbh I could find out a real address from an IP address you would have been whisked away in an ambulance like an hour ago :joker:

If you feel bad again, please ring 999. As I said it can be very serious stuff :S

[joeysteele]

Take care Daniel, I hope you are okay and more settled in the morning but please make sure you act if you feel any worse at all then or before then too.
All my very best to you.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Whatever you think is best...mind you, if tbh I could find out a real address from an IP address you would have been whisked away in an ambulance like an hour ago :joker:

If you feel bad again, please ring 999. As I said it can be very serious stuff :S

LOL yeah I believe you, putting the alarm to go off every 1 hour so my little Nokia shall watch over me tonight..

NIght peeps x

[the truth]

good luck danny boy

[Marsh.]

Make sure it's charged. :eek:

[user104658]

Overall be a stubborn **** and insist

This is basically the only way you will ever receive an acceptable standard of care with the NHS, and was what I was going to say after just reading the first post. Don't take no for an answer. Don't kick off with them in a way that will mean they get security involved, but otherwise, just hound them until they take you seriously.

Hope you get somewhere with them.

[Gstar]

aw, hope you're okay

[Me. I Am Salman]

aw, hope you're okay

I'm sure he'll appreciate this wonderful bit of input

[Ammi]

..Daniel, however you feel this morning, even if you feel much better..at the very least, either go to your GP or back to A&E because of how you felt last night..those symptoms were very real and even if they have gone now, you just need them checked out for reassurance, ok..:hug:..

[joeysteele]

Daniel,I hope you are feeling better this morning, I wanted to check right off on here to see if you had updated.

I would though like to join with Ammi as to her post, no matter how you feel, still get yourself checked out today again.
Take care Daniel,all best wishes.

[the truth]

whats up danny boy? how you feeling now?

[Vanessa]

Please let us know you're ok, Daniel. :(

[Livia]

Lots of people thinking about you Daniel... hope you're okay.

[Kazanne]

Daniel, I would go back to a&e. You should be seen by a Doctor and when you do tell him your experience and your fears too.

In your place,I would ring 999 and have paramedics come out, often they know more what is going on than some at the hopsitals unbelievably.
If you are really worried, get them out, it is not a waste of time and they can do vital checks too and also may take you to a&e anyway.
Good luck but if you are worried and don't feel right then get them out.

Yes good advice there from Joey,and why they couldn't treat you is shocking I'de also make a fuss over that.Good luck and hope you're ok

[Vanessa]

He hasn't been online yet. :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Thanks for all the well wishes,Well spoke to the private clinic where I had it done who reffered me to the doctors who seems to think everythings fine, no blood tests were taken even though I asked and stressed how ill I had been. He even said "well yesterday was a hot day perhaps you were over heated" wtf lol yesterday was freezing.

Not feeling very reassured at all.

He also said "don't worry its not a blood clot otherwise you would be coughing blood", erm yes that's like very late on surely they should check for early signs and not leave it till it gets that point.

Anyway still feeling dodgy but just have to trust what they have said **** all else I can do. Do we really pay taxes for this service?

Just have to wait it out and hopefully it just passes not a nice feeling :(

[Jesus.]

Have to say, I'm more relieved for myself after my post in other thread, but whatever. I'm mildly happy for you as well.

[Marsh.]

That does sound like an odd thing to say.

Kind of like saying "It's not cancer because you're not dead yet".

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That does sound like an odd thing to say.

Kind of like saying "It's not cancer because you're not dead yet".

I know, honestly ive had better advice from this forum. Cant get over the it was a hot day comment that's something I have to laugh about.

[Livia]

Good to see you... although sorry you didn't get the answers you deserve. But you'll call an ambulance should you feel like that again, right?

[Vanessa]

If you're not felling better later you should call an ambulance.

[thesheriff443]

dan you where worried about this operation, you should be taking it easy!
blood clots where on you're mind before you had this operation.

[Livia]

dan you where worried about this operation, you should be taking it easy!
blood clots where on you're mind before you had this operation.

As much as I hate to agree with you sheriff... you're right. There. You won't hear that from me often LOL...

It says in the OP that he only had the operation two weeks ago. Dan... take some time and try to relax. I know that's easy to say...

[user104658]

I'm sure I've mentioned before on here - we once took our daughter to an out of hours doctor and he Googled. Right there in front of us, screen facing us, not even trying to hide it he Googled her symptoms and was clicking links like "maybe it's this... Or this". I was actually gobsmacked. I'm utterly convinced that 90% of NHS doctors are essentially just winging it! That sort of dismissive "hot day" comment seems pretty typical of my experiences lately.

If you do find yourself at he hospital again, seriously, just badger them until you get to see someone a bit more senior. That doesn't mean a doctor - the rank and file doctors are useless - most experienced high grade nurses are better than a "foot soldier" hospital doctor.

Don't let up until you're satisfied that you've seen someone who KNOWS what they are talking about and isn't just taking shots in the dark.

[Cherie]

sounds like a reaction to the anasthetic or a panic attack due to worry. Dr Cherie in the house. Glad you are still with us, as for the nurse, did you say she was a student nurse if so she gave you incorrect information, you should report it not to get her into trouble but so she learns from her mistakes, and in future ask for a second opinion there and then as you have a right to be checked over by a qualified member of staff if you are worried.

[Cherie]

ooops I note it is 2 weeks since the op, so not a reaction then!

[Marsh.]

I'm sure I've mentioned before on here - we once took our daughter to an out of hours doctor and he Googled. Right there in front of us, screen facing us, not even trying to hide it he Googled her symptoms and was clicking links like "maybe it's this... Or this". I was actually gobsmacked. I'm utterly convinced that 90% of NHS doctors are essentially just winging it! That sort of dismissive "hot day" comment seems pretty typical of my experiences lately.

If you do find yourself at he hospital again, seriously, just badger them until you get to see someone a bit more senior. That doesn't mean a doctor - the rank and file doctors are useless - most experienced high grade nurses are better than a "foot soldier" hospital doctor.

Don't let up until you're satisfied that you've seen someone who KNOWS what they are talking about and isn't just taking shots in the dark.

It's frightening really. You always hear stories about how doctors continually turn people away saying they're overreacting or it's nothing to worry about and before they know it, it turns out they have a tumour the size of a grapefruit or something.

If you believe something is wrong then don't let it lie, you know your own body better than anyone.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

ooops I note it is 2 weeks since the op, so not a reaction then!

Exactly lol everything was fine, nothing wrong with the anaesthetic, actually felt quite nice. The thing is its not a panic attack because I literally wasn't worrying I was pretty happy how I was recovering to be honest then there was and still is actual physical pain which corresponds with every warning sign these supposed doctors tell post op patients to look out for and "contact immediately" if experiencing any of them.

Im just sick of talking about it now, they made me feel like a right twat for being sensible and following advice regarding my health.

If it continues im seriously just going to fork out for a private appointment its just money at the end of the day. Hearing all these stories from people its shocking how doctors miss out on things.

I am not settling for having heatstroke in March.

[Vicky.]

The coughing blood thing isn't true..my sister never coughed up any blood :/

And I have been on the recieving end of a googling doctor too. I was gobsmacked, especially as the same doctor had told me previously NOT to do this as what google says is usually not right :laugh:

[the truth]

the couching up blood is 100% BS
Id demand a dopler scan , end of

[the truth]

Good to see you... although sorry you didn't get the answers you deserve. But you'll call an ambulance should you feel like that again, right?

if you continue with this warmth and empathy I may have to withdraw my rejection of your dinner date request

[user104658]

It's frightening really. You always hear stories about how doctors continually turn people away saying they're overreacting or it's nothing to worry about and before they know it, it turns out they have a tumour the size of a grapefruit or something.

If you believe something is wrong then don't let it lie, you know your own body better than anyone.

Funnily enough, my sister who I mentioned in another current thread (here (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6751400&postcount=5)) who DID have a tumor bigger than a grapefruit (a benign one, but still) was sent away from her GP several times without so much as an abdominal examination, with "diagnoses" such as IBS and even constipation.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

the couching up blood is 100% BS
Id demand a dopler scan , end of

As if they would give me a doplar scan lol the last NHS hospital I had the pleasure of staying in couldn't even give me a pillow.

Its just worrying how they think they can magically diagnose someone in minutes without doing any real tests that would provide a conclusive answer. They shouldn't be allowed to just say you're fine when they don't actually know.

I honestly thought I would go there seeing as the symptoms have been very worrying and they would have just done the relevant tests and would have shown some slight concern themselves not shun me out, I can take my blood pressure at home

SUNSTROKE!!!! lol That's the diagnosis from the people who we are meant to trust to look after us. Not very promising.

Funnily enough I took an aspirin an hour ago and the pins and needles have started to quiet down. Self medicating.

[smeagol]

you got to watch those student nurses. they come in a prod about for practice and dont even tell the patient they are using them , and have nothing to do with the case

see your doc if you can get a appointment. any probs go a & e again , dont hesitate is my advice about returning if need be. your always get another doc there usually and might be better.

[the truth]

is this a cardiff hospital? the welsh nhs are even further behind than the english one.....they also seem to be less accountable , possibly due to a less voracious media

[Vanessa]

You have the right to get yourself checked out. If you think there's something wrong don't give up until they see you.

[Kizzy]

If you had a private proceedure what did you pay for, what aftercare were you offered? It's not right that they take your money then you find somethings gone wrong they throw their hands up and say 'nothing to do with us' ... Why should the NHS patch you up?
Having said that I would have thought they would and your experience is unfortunate, I really hope you feel better today.

[Kate!]

It could still possibly have been stress related, you may not feel you were worrying but subconsciously could have been.

It's annoying that they were so dismissive, they'll do it once too often and get it wrong, then the crap will hit the fan.

[Vanessa]

Still sounds like something may be wrong. Surely they have to take it seriously? :suspect:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If you had a private proceedure what did you pay for, what aftercare were you offered? It's not right that they take your money then you find somethings gone wrong they throw their hands up and say 'nothing to do with us' ... Why should the NHS patch you up?
Having said that I would have thought they would and your experience is unfortunate, I really hope you feel better today.

The private hospital is in London, the clinic did all the relevant vital sign tests but they don't include any scans in the price it costs like a grand extra. My aftercare is to check for infection in the wound and follow up appointments are provided to see the healing process. They have given me an emergency number though so if it gets really serious then I can call them, I still have a cramp in my calf and feel slightly nauseas but all other symptoms have gone.

The NHS should treat any patient, especially since I work, pay my taxes and am born and bred here. the NHS were the ones who botched up the op in the first place and the waiting list of 4 yours was to much to bare. They suggested I go private, I did and then some nurse with a chip on her shoulder or who was on her period obviously gave me poor information, bitched about how private health care do not care about their patients and did not do any significant tests.

If she had taken me seriously she would not have left the cubicle and let a student nurse deal with possible complications from an op, it should be treated as high priority given I was experiencing some very detailed and extreme symptoms.

Yes TheTruth the hospital was in Cardiff and was the nearest A&E to me, its a student hospital and 45 minutes away, the student nurse was lovely but panicky she just wasn't experienced enough.

Im still concerned about this cramp to be honest, a scan should be ordered in my opinion just to be safe. My mother has worked in the NHS for 20 years and she agrees that a scan needs to be done and more than just a simple blood pressure. glucose test.

The thing that concerns me is that when they did the gluscose test the blood was very hard to get out and took 5 attempts when before the op it came out quickly in one prick and had to have a plaster, this just stopped bleeding with no plaster needed. Also when I took an Aspirin the pins and needles quietened down which to me even though im not a professional or trained in healthcare would indicate slow blood flow or even thickening as Aspirin thins the blood and relieved my symptoms for a while.

Honestly its just ****ing horrible to be made to feel you are wasting their time or are for attention or something. A complaint is definitely being made.

[the truth]

YOU HAVE GOT TO GET TESTED FOR A BLOOD CLOT. sorry to sound so dramatic but anything less is not good enough.

[joeysteele]

YOU HAVE GOT TO GET TESTED FOR A BLOOD CLOT. sorry to sound so dramatic but anything less is not good enough.

Really good advice from the truth.
Please insist on those tests Daniel, good luck.

[Vanessa]

YOU HAVE GOT TO GET TESTED FOR A BLOOD CLOT. sorry to sound so dramatic but anything less is not good enough.

Agreed. Better safe than sorry.

[Kizzy]

Nurses can't diagnose, if you go to a hospital again you should see a doctor.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I totally agree with everyone but im ****ing exhausted even talking about it now.

The opinions I have gotten so far are:

Its a reaction to the anaesthetic (2 weeks later)
Its because of the heat (it was freezing)
Theres nothing we can do for you.

this is after seeing a nurse in the private clinic, a nurse and a student nurse in the hospital and an emergency appointment with a doctor at the gp.

Ive exhausted every option but I agree I need to see someone who will provide more tests but when ive asked for them and they refused theres not a lot else I can do except hope its nothing.

[the truth]

heartless bar****s

[daniel-lewis-1985]

A few days on.

2677

Yes qualified doctor I do believe this is due to the "hot March weather" and my supposed heat stroke.

Idiot!

[Kizzy]

If it was a clot I think you would have had a deterioration by now, do you have a temperature, dizzyness, numbness, tingling, headache, vomiting?
It looks like a really bad bruise to me, has any swelling gone down?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If it was a clot I think you would have had a deterioration by now, do you have a temperature, dizzyness, numbness, tingling, headache, vomiting?
It looks like a really bad bruise to me, has any swelling gone down?

Theres nowhere I have bruised it on, you can literary see purple and blue veins all over my feet and a massive purple botch on the sole I don't think the pic does it justice its taken from an old webcam whilst leaning on 1 foot over the bath lol.

Dizzyness, not numb just a dull ache and throb, painful cramps in calf, foot seizing up, pressure on sides of my head, vomited into my throat (sorry I know that's minging), heart pounds when standing for more than 10 minutes, wheezing chest......

Hope its just an infection im supposed to be booking flights for a well needed holiday tomorrow....Obviously not going to happen. Off to the hospital in 5 hours with backup from a very pushy friend.

There is no way im getting turned away again.

I thinks its safe to say its not heat stroke though. Im just gonna go in and be like Hi my doctor says I have heat stroke Then whip out that beautiful foot.

[Kizzy]

Yes might be worth taking another trip down then, hope all the pish heads have wandered home by 7ish :)
Keep us posted then , good luck dan.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yes might be worth taking another trip down then, hope all the pish heads have wandered home by 7ish :)
Keep us posted then , good luck dan.

Exactly that's why im waiting for a lift at 7. A&E service is terrible on a quiet day let alone a ****ing Saturday.

[sassysocks]

Yeah thats awful advice if theres a chance of it being DVT or something D:

You need to be up walking about every few hours or so. Think of the advice you get on a long haul flight...

I would go back. This nurse sounds seriously ****. I would also put in a very strongly worded complaint to the NHS.

It was previously thought within the medical profession that early mobility after a DVT was not advisable as this could encourage the clot to travel to the lungs and cause pulmonary embolism which is generally fatal, which may explain such advise.

However, this has largely changed, but it all depends on the individual's personal circumstances. Without knowing this or his PMH we cannot possibly know the rights or wrongs of the advice given.

The poster should see his GP or return to A&E asap. To seek advice from non-professionals on here is dangerous.

The advise you are talking about ie: on long-haul flights is about preventative action, and is not necessarily applicable, post clot, in all circumstances.

[Vicky.]

It was previously thought within the medical profession that early mobility after a DVT was not advisable as this could encourage the clot to travel to the lungs and cause pulmonary embolism which is generally fatal, which may explain such advise.

However, this has largely changed, but it all depends on the individual's personal circumstances. Without knowing this or his PMH we cannot possibly know the rights or wrongs of the advice given.

The poster should see his GP or return to A&E asap. To seek advice from non-professionals on here is dangerous.

To be quite honest, it seems its just as dangerous to see the professionals...

[Kizzy]

It was previously thought within the medical profession that early mobility after a DVT was not advisable as this could encourage the clot to travel to the lungs and cause pulmonary embolism which is generally fatal, which may explain such advise.

However, this has largely changed, but it all depends on the individual's personal circumstances. Without knowing this or his PMH we cannot possibly know the rights or wrongs of the advice given.

The poster should see his GP or return to A&E asap. To seek advice from non-professionals on here is dangerous.

The advise you are talking about ie: on long-haul flights is about preventative action, and is not necessarily applicable, post clot, in all circumstances.

Nobody's advising him to chop his foot off are they?
He's at the hospital atm, thanks to support and advise here and at home so let's hope he gets some reassurance there eh?

[sassysocks]

Nobody's advising him to chop his foot off are they?
He's at the hospital atm, thanks to support and advise here and at home so let's hope he gets some reassurance there eh?

Eh, some were criticising the advice given re: mobility and advising that he should mobilise, but without knowing his personal circs, this may not have been the correct advise. Of course he wanted reassurance, but for his own safety, he needed to get that from the right place.

[Kizzy]

Eh, some were criticising the advice given re: mobility and advising that he should mobilise, but without knowing his personal circs, this may not have been the correct advise. Of course he wanted reassurance, but for his own safety, he needed to get that from the right place.

What other option is there? he's at home and has to toilet and feed himself ergo he is mobile, the hospital sent him home as did the GP it was their advice to mobilise.

[Vicky.]

A few days on.

2677

Yes qualified doctor I do believe this is due to the "hot March weather" and my supposed heat stroke.

Idiot!
Just seen this update, that looks bloody awful. Looks really similiar to my sisters leg when she had her clot, except rather than the big bruise she had a dark rash type thing and a small bruise

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Couldn't walk or breath yesterday im telling you it was the most terrifying thing I have ever experienced, went back to a&e and they sent me for a chest xray straight away, hooked me up to all this **** and nothing was found blood clot related, bloods fine advice was I have an infection and anxiety so reffered back to my gp.

No leg scan was carried out even though I stressed that I was worried about constant cramp they were more focused on my chest which is understandable I suppose.

Sent home after 10 hours of needles and prodding and now my arms look like Amy Winehouse lol. They said you have to much carbon dioxide in your blood and heartbeat was slightly raised, yes that's because I couldn't ****ing breath idiots.

Doctors were great until one came in early hours and said "you have anxiety so I am sending you home now" I said obviously I have anxiety I couldn't ****ing breath. I didn't realise how bad my breathing was till I called a taxi and couldn't ****ing talk sounded like phil Mitchell.

Any way pain killers have been given and if it carries on the advice again is to go back to the gp. He thought my foot looked fine but I on the other hand think it looks like it belongs to a dead person.

The doctors took it very serious when I arrived and I thought finally something is being done but then on discharge again I was made to feel like an idiot.

I was slightly relieved for all of 10 minutes but then thought if this is anxiety why is my leg in constant cramp mode, getting worse and changed colour?

Im paying to go private just to get reassurance and get this over with, all I want is a leg scan that's it so looks like I will just have to pay for it. Discolouration and swelling doesn't happen from anxiety and is not normal.

[Kizzy]

So is there an infection or not, have you got antibiotics?
You could be hyperventilating (why the increased carbon dioxide) slow your breathing down, breath in deeply through your nose and out through your mouth for a couple of mins when you start to worry... then reassess how you feel.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So is there an infection or not, have you got antibiotics?
You could be hyperventilating (why the increased carbon dioxide) slow your breathing down, breath in deeply through your nose and out through your mouth for a couple of mins when you start to worry... then reassess how you feel.

I was definitely hyperventilating aswel but that's because I couldn't ****ing breath to start with my breathing was shallow and weezy and was impossible to even breath through my nose and mouth.

Hours later when it became fast I knew that was hyperventilating but that's bound to happen given the curcumstances and that was nowhere near as bad as not being able to catch your breath at all.

The hyperventilating was a totally different feeling to what the first few hours were like.

Doctors tomorrow for antibiotics as they said they couldn't give me medication even though I was sent away with painkillers which I don't want. Numbing the cramp is just a stupid idea I think its best to keep a clear head and focus on how it feels.

God im talking about this so much im starting to piss myself off. Didn't help either when I was waiting for my blood tests to come back that I needed a dump and the toilet was situated in a very quiet part of the hospital next to the staff desk.

Maybe it is just an infection, odds are that it is to be honest the chances of a blood clot are very slim.

[Kizzy]

I'm sure you'll start to feel better once your antibiotics kick in dan, shame they couldn't see you today sooner you get them started the better :)