1,500 chickens killed in lorry crash 'deserve memorial':

[Crimson Dynamo]

1,500 chickens killed in lorry crash 'deserve memorial': Animal rights campaigners call for commemoration after M62 accident

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627946/Chicken-run-Motorway-chaos-lorry-crash-leads-hundreds-hens-making-bid-freedom.html#ixzz31msMkIcO


Animal rights campaigners have demanded a memorial at the site of a lorry crash which killed around 1,500 chickens.

The HGV hit a motorway central reservation, throwing cages containing about 6,800 birds across a four-lane carriageway.

It is estimated 1,500 chickens died while another 5,000 survived and escaped into nearby fields.

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Do you think a memorial is a good idea?

[Livia]

No I don't think a memorial is a good idea. But I do think that a rethink is overdue about the way we transport animals.

[Me. I Am Salman]

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[arista]

No


KFC is Fast food

[Kazanne]

No I don't think a memorial is a good idea. But I do think that a rethink is overdue about the way we transport animals.

Saves them from the slaughter house and yes totally agree:hugesmile:

[arista]

No I don't think a memorial is a good idea. But I do think that a rethink is overdue about the way we transport animals.


No use Robot Drivers

[Livia]

No use Robot Drivers

No, transport them in a humane way. In fact don't just transport them in a humane way, raise them that way too. No more battery farms, make people pay a little more for ethically reared meat.

[Kizzy]

Even ethically reared meat needs transporting for processing... should we teach them to fly? :laugh:

[arista]

No, transport them in a humane way. In fact don't just transport them in a humane way, raise them that way too. No more battery farms, make people pay a little more for ethically reared meat.


No Transporting them is needed


battery farms are going in the UK.


But Europe its a mess
and Asia is scary

[Livia]

No Transporting them is needed


battery farms are going in the UK.


But Europe its a mess
and Asia is scary

I understand that. But do you think that ethically reared animals are then packed into cages and transported like intensely farmed battery chickens? No, of course they're not! You pay more for ethically reared meat because it's not only reared ethically but transported ethically. Obviously. At least the suppliers that I support do.

I don't eat foreign meat, so would never support European or Asian methods. When I was in India I ate vegetarian only. I'm very particular about what I eat.

[Kizzy]

supply and demand, if people want KFC, mac Ds, 10 chicken burgers for a quid then this is the only way to keep costs down... the solution? Don't buy rubbish..boycott it, will that happen here? No.
People have less and less disposable income so are buying cheaper and cheaper cuts of meat and packaged products, expecting those with nothing to think ethically is a big ask.

[Marsh.]

Even ethically reared meat needs transporting for processing... should we teach them to fly? :laugh:

:joker:

[user104658]

supply and demand, if people want KFC, mac Ds, 10 chicken burgers for a quid then this is the only way to keep costs down... the solution? Don't buy rubbish..boycott it, will that happen here? No.
People have less and less disposable income so are buying cheaper and cheaper cuts of meat and packaged products, expecting those with nothing to think ethically is a big ask.

I agree. I tend to eat free range chicken / eggs and grass fed red meats, although admittedly mainly because it tastes better, but the price difference amounts to more than "a little bit" more - it can easily be double the price, or more, than the factory farmed cheap stuff.

Expecting people who are struggling with keeping their home heated to feel concern for the living conditions of Chickens... Is a bit of a joke really. Switching cheap meat for free range could easily bump up an average weekly shopping bill by £10... £45 a month... £45 a month extra to stick on your gas direct debit makes a huge difference. It's the difference between worrying about a few hours extra heating in winter to keep your kids warm, and suffering the cold (and the damp that it causes), for many families. That said - it's shameful that that's a concern in the first place.

[Cherie]

Even ethically reared meat needs transporting for processing... should we teach them to fly? :laugh:

:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

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[Cherie]

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He looks tasty.

[arista]

supply and demand, if people want KFC, mac Ds, 10 chicken burgers for a quid then this is the only way to keep costs down... the solution? Don't buy rubbish..boycott it, will that happen here? No.
People have less and less disposable income so are buying cheaper and cheaper cuts of meat and packaged products, expecting those with nothing to think ethically is a big ask.


No not everyone has time.
So Fast Food is big money


Supply and Demand


Life In The City

[Kizzy]

It takes less time to make a sarnie than it does to queue for a burger.

[arista]

It takes less time to make a sarnie than it does to queue for a burger.


Yes but not everyone
can pop home to do that,
or get time in the morning rush
And people need Hot Food
that helps them stay alert at work



Life In The Fast Lane

[Kizzy]

Really poor excuse for a really poor diet.

[Marsh.]

But surely those people will be putting cheap meats into their sarnies at home anyway?

[Kizzy]

But surely those people will be putting cheap meats into their sarnies at home anyway?

What people, it's not just the poor who eat fast food is it?

Arista is suggesting busy working people need KFC to get them through their day in the fast lane... I don't think they do.

[Marsh.]

I never said only the poor eat fast food. :suspect:

I said making your own sandwiches at home isn't a guarantee of better sourced food or a healthier diet than fast food.

[arista]

Really poor excuse for a really poor diet.


Only For You.




Life In The City

[arista]

What people, it's not just the poor who eat fast food is it?

Arista is suggesting busy working people need KFC to get them through their day in the fast lane... I don't think they do.


Hot Food is needed
there are many Fast Food outlets

[Kizzy]

I never said only the poor eat fast food. :suspect:

I said making your own sandwiches at home isn't a guarantee of better sourced food or a healthier diet than fast food.

I know this... Except if there wasn't as many people buying fast food there wouldn't be the need for as intensively farmed meats maybe?
Then standards/ quality might improve?

[Marsh.]

But do these intensely farmed meats only go to fast food outlets or do they make up a portion of the meat available in the supermarket?

That's what I meant by food from your home not necessarily being better produce than what's served up in fast food places.

[Kizzy]

But do these intensely farmed meats only go to fast food outlets or do they make up a portion of the meat available in the supermarket?

That's what I meant by food from your home not necessarily being better produce than what's served up in fast food places.

It may or may not be, My only point was the possible improvement in standards if the demand wasn't so great. That's the theory anyway :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Well I agree with that. :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Hot Food is needed
there are many Fast Food outlets

Yes I know there are a lot, that's my whole point.
What did we do before KFC?

[user104658]

Yes but not everyone
can pop home to do that,
or get time in the morning rush
And people need Hot Food
that helps them stay alert at work



Life In The Fast Lane

Err... I think this is probably medically dubious :joker:.

Scratch that, I'm 100% sure it's nonsense. If you want energy to get you through the day, fast food is the last thing you want... It'll make you lethargic.

Ideally you should eat something light but high energy, like nuts, a high protein salad or fruit.

Loading up on starchy fast food carbs at lunch time is an awful idea.

[Marsh.]

Yep, that gives you the afternoon lull.

[arista]

Err... I think this is probably medically dubious :joker:.

Scratch that, I'm 100% sure it's nonsense. If you want energy to get you through the day, fast food is the last thing you want... It'll make you lethargic.

Ideally you should eat something light but high energy, like nuts, a high protein salad or fruit.

Loading up on starchy fast food carbs at lunch time is an awful idea.


Some Fast Food
has salads and fruit
and hot food

[Marsh.]

Some Fast Food
has salads and fruit
and hot food

A strawberry McFlurry is not one of your 5 a day. :nono:

[Kizzy]

Some Fast Food
has salads and fruit
and hot food

We're only concerned with chucks atm... we can debate the ethical farming of iceberg lettuce another day :laugh:

[arista]

A strawberry McFlurry is not one of your 5 a day. :nono:



Thats Trash
not valid

[arista]

We're only concerned with chucks atm... we can debate the ethical farming of iceberg lettuce another day :laugh:



No Iceberg Lettuce
can come into any debate


You are getting BOSSY

[user104658]

Some Fast Food
has salads and fruit
and hot food

The hot food you get at fast food venues isn't going to give you energy for the day...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy fast food every now and then (OK, OK... We end up in KFC every Wednesday night after my daughter's dance class...) but it's not "good fuel" for a working body / mind. I'd never have fast food for lunch. Raw nuts would be a much better "life in the fast lane" choice. Preparation time: zero!

[user104658]

We're only concerned with chucks atm... we can debate the ethical farming of iceberg lettuce another day :laugh:


I'm having weird flashbacks to a kid's show from years ago that had talking /singing lettuce?? But I can't think what it was :/

[Kizzy]

sesame street? :)

[Marsh.]

Thats Trash
not valid

Strawberry flavoured ice cream is not fruit. :nono:

[T*]

I have chickens and it's heartbreaking when one dies, It sounds like I'm going crazy, but, every chicken has it's own personality like a dog or cat would, so they should have a memorial.

[smudgie]

Nah, no memorial...a ruddy big BBQ rather.
Waste not want not.:devil:

[user104658]

I have chickens and it's heartbreaking when one dies, It sounds like I'm going crazy, but, every chicken has it's own personality like a dog or cat would, so they should have a memorial.

I don't mean to traumatise you but... 803 MILLION chickens are slaughtered for food every year. Just in the UK. That's the actual figure.

...

I think holding a memorial service for 1500 of those little personalities may fall under the heading of "piss in the ocean"...

[user104658]

LOL, I just looked up the global annual figure.

It's... 49 billion. 49 billion chickens are eaten every year. That's actually mind boggling :joker:

[arista]

Strawberry flavoured ice cream is not fruit. :nono:


correct

[Marsh.]

I don't mean to traumatise you but... 803 MILLION chickens are slaughtered for food every year. Just in the UK. That's the actual figure.

...

I think holding a memorial service for 1500 of those little personalities may fall under the heading of "piss in the ocean"...

:joker:

[Benjamin]

I'm all for animals being treated better, I love them, but honestly these people just make a sodding mockery of better treatment for animals with crazy crap like this.

[Vicky.]

For the love of god...

[Nedusa]

Police are investigating this crash, rumour has it that they suspect fowl play.