100% definitely a voting fix, impossible not to be

[JohnBlox]

I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread

It's not even about Matthew. It's about a housemate being 1/16 to go and being saved. No one odds on to go at 1/3 has ever been saved so when someone at 1/16 to go is saved then everyone smells a ch5 rat.

I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

[Northern Monkey]

I think Helen is an excellent HM and i was'nt bothered who went tonight,But i do agree that this seems dodgy.

[JPG2502]

I think it might have something to do with the 'app', I'm sure its giving us mixed results compared to what we might get with sole phone voting

[Josy]

This is getting boring.

Its not a fix at all, the channel and company that runs BB would be in massive trouble if they fixed the votes.

[Novo]

Brilliant, keep them coming :joker: :joker:

[Jemal]

Lol is there anyway mods can close these fix threads?

[smeagol]

well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Go cry to Ofcom.

[Novo]

well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there

[Brother Leon]

Ash was at 1/10 5mins before he beat Toya last week...

[waylander1973]

I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

[CaudleHalbard]

Go cry to Ofcom.
Exactly. Do something about it if you genuinely think there is something unlawful going on.

[smeagol]

Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there


doesn't matter there is always a investiagtion when odds that high lose
its rare. if the odds are last minute not weeks prior.

this was 2 horse race one was a dead cert.

what team wins what is totally different

[chuff me dizzy]

Im not one of those people who shout FIX ,but in this case it must have been ,theres no way someone whos 1-10 (as Ash was today) could possibly stay ,and several on BB Facebook asked why when they posted it was fixed were their comments removed

[Achilles]

Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

[JohnBlox]

England world cup team, worst result since 1958
Murrays worst Wimbledon result for 8 years
BB a 10:1 HM leaves over one at 1:15 = Never happened EVER.

If the App doesn't restrict voting it would be easy to automate it to vote 100+ of times a minute (using stolen credit cards for credit OR other hack?) on multiple accounts bouncing through proxies to rig the bet. Other shows (x-factor) have withdrawn computerised voting, probably for this very reason.

If people complain and it gets investigated, it will 100% definitely be shown to be rigged. It's not like it hasn't happened before Ant&Dec etc.

[Josy]

It doesn't matter what the ODDS SAID

Votes are what counts and people clearly never voted enough to evict Ash :facepalm:

[CaudleHalbard]

I don't believe BB rigged it. Maybe the public did by massive multiple voting, but hey thats life!

[JohnBlox]

Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

[GypsyGoth]

I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

I think that is one of the reasons, also people were positive all week Ash would go, and just didn't bother voting. As well, Ash had a pretty good couple of days on the highlights shows and Matt was seen bitching.

Also I'm sure people who gamble have some influence, there was a chance for some to make a lot of money.

[Ramsay]

EDIT MANIPULATION WHICH THE PUBLIC FELL FOR. not an outright fix.

[CaudleHalbard]

Or it may be that people who place money with bookies are not the teenies who vote? ;)

[JohnBlox]

Or it may be that people who place money with bookies are not the teenies who vote? ;)

Who fixed it and how is the question not IF, unless you are seriously gullible. Odds CAN be wrong, but NEVER that wrong, not possible

[andybigbro]

People must have thought Ash was gone so never bothered voting for him.

[Miranda123]

I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

GET OVER IT!!

[Ramsay]

People must have thought Ash was gone so never bothered voting for him.

^

[JohnBlox]

GET OVER IT!!

I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.

[andybigbro]

I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.

That's a bit of a pathetic reaction tbh.

[Achilles]

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

The fans of Ash each vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The haters of Matthew vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The fans of Matthew don't see the danger.
The haters of Ash don't feel the need to vote as they think it is a foregone conclusion.
Result = Matthew evicted :cheer2:

[00Jamie00]

Anyone who is disappointed with the result can blame Ashleigh

[smeagol]

I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.


dont get baited. there s a lot here sudden;y jumping on a bandwagon.
dont fall for it.

beware of orces lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Look if it was a fix why would BB want to throw out Matthew over Christopher who provides entertainment?

They have gained nothing from this apparent fix apart from a backlash of unhappy people matthew went.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

DID YOU VOTE?

Also who did you want evicted?

[JohnBlox]

DID YOU VOTE?

Also who did you want evicted?

No I never vote
Didn't really care who went

Assumed Ash would go based on the odds on odds-checker before the show. The thread wasn't supposed to be about teamA vs teamB just about the statistical anomaly that's given me the much needed push to stop watching for good. Choose to watch Helen the queen of chavs show? Seriously? Not for me. Makes me shudder and reminds one of the sad decline of this nation. To think Rooney paid to 'bleep' that - blimey, I give up!

Good-night

[RodHull]

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

Your missing a crucial point, if this was some fix or insider manipulation, Chrismass would have gone, not Mat. They'd want to save the controversial characters not evict them.

Its not fixed, put plainly Ashleighs vile and eye scratchingly hate inducing behaviour this week got Mat evicted. It was basically that show when she sat in the DR smugly congratulating herself with that prissy look on her face then the next show when she was awful to Kim and generally very fake, he was doomed from then on.

Where as Helen realised she was proving to be Ashs undoing and didnt react to Ashleighs little game, Helen won basically... deal with it people

[CaudleHalbard]

I have awful news for those who love the idea of fixes and conspiracies:

Those who run the show don't give a toss who gets evicted or even who wins. (Shock, horror!)

How much profit have we made...... THAT is the only question discussed on the boardroom.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No I never vote
Didn't really care who went

Assumed Ash would go based on the odds on odds-checker before the show. The thread wasn't supposed to be about teamA vs teamB just about the statistical anomaly that's given me the much needed push to stop watching for good. Choose to watch Helen the queen of chavs show? Seriously? Not for me. Makes me shudder and reminds one of the sad decline of this nation. To think Rooney paid to 'bleep' that - blimey, I give up!

Good-night

So if you didn't vote because you thought Ash was safe is it not possible that others did the same?

Isnt that more realistic than some minority report fantasy.

Also if you look around the forum there are people who have made threads who voted to evict Matthew.

We have already established from polls on DS that over 90% of people said they didn't even bother voting.

Im sorry but if people didn't pick up the phone to evict Ash because they was so certain he was going to go then the next biggest personality which was Matthew was bound to get more votes.

[Miranda123]

I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

you should eat cypriot grapes, theyre not quite so bitter!!!

[Miranda123]

Look if it was a fix why would BB want to throw out Matthew over Christopher who provides entertainment?

They have gained nothing from this apparent fix apart from a backlash of unhappy people matthew went.

well Im very happy!!!!!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

well Im very happy!!!!!

That's brilliant even though I didn't want Matthew to go its good to see that there are people who did which makes it credible Matthew actually just got the most votes.

BUT.....

Did you vote? lol

[BeloTheBelt]

Definitely something dodgy going on. Bookies don't get it THAT wrong and consecutively too

[CaudleHalbard]

Definitely something dodgy going on. Bookies don't get it THAT wrong and consecutively too
Erm, bookies set the odds according to how much money is being placed.

It is the Betting Public being completely out of sync with the Voting Public. In the case of BB, which has a lot of voters who are too young to bet, it is not at all impossible for that to happen. It is not a horse race.

[GypsyGoth]

Erm, bookies set the odds according to how much money is being placed.

It is the Betting Public being completely out of sync with the Voting Public. In the case of BB, which has a lot of voters who are too young to bet, it is not at all impossible for that to happen. It is not a horse race.

I never thought of it like that. Well I knew the odds were created by the amount of money being put on. But I didn't think that it could simply be gamblers being out of sync with voters. That's a more convincing explanation than some betting conspiracy.

[Yaki da]

It's the polls being so far out that is astonishing. I've never seen anything like it

[JTM45]

Those who run the show don't give a toss who gets evicted or even who wins. (Shock, horror!)



I don't think for one minute the voting was 'fixed' this week but if you've watched BB for years and really believe that they don't try to manipulate the show so that certain people go or stay over others (through editing etc.) then you're not very observant at all!!!
You'd really have to be blind to think that the producers just let things happen naturally in there! When they arranged it this week so that ONLY men could be evicted how could you possibly even think they don't care who stays and goes ? They didn't even attempt to hide it this week!:laugh:

It's pretty much the only reason that BOTS exists any more! It's so blatantly biased in an attempt to sway viewers opinion that it's not even funny

[Robodog]

The fans of Ash each vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The haters of Matthew vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The fans of Matthew don't see the danger.
The haters of Ash don't feel the need to vote as they think it is a foregone conclusion.
Result = Matthew evicted :cheer2:

This is true.

Fans get complacent and think certain HMs are safe so they don't vote. It's why Natalie Cassidy went in CBB for example. People were shocked then.

Also regarding odds - Costa Rica were 2500/1 to win the World cup at the start! The total outsiders.

Now they are in the quarter finals having won their group.

Bookies odds are usually pretty accurate - but not always.

[Patricia4]

I think the wrong one went but we cant do anything about it.

[kistar]

This is getting boring.

Its not a fix at all, the channel and company that runs BB would be in massive trouble if they fixed the votes.

It's happened before though so it's not impossible who polices it ?

[Josy]

It's happened before though so it's not impossible who polices it ?

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

[Jake.]

Can we not have these threads everytime somebodies favourite goes? I wanted Ash to go, he didn't. Simple. Don't see why it's so hard to accept.

[MrMinaj]

It's the polls being so far out that is astonishing. I've never seen anything like it

i know, it was quite bizarre!

though take a look at the popularity polls, Ashleigh is topping most of them or coming second. Yet she will likely be evicted next week!

#BRINGBACKVOTETOSAVE!!

#YESiAMaBROKENrecord :joker:

[Verbal]

i'm sure I posted on this thread last night, it seems to have disappeared.

[billy123]

LOOL these threads look even more ridiculous when you look at them the next day HAHAHAHA.

http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Conspiracy-Keanu_1.jpg

[AnnieK]

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

This.

[Verbal]

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

Exactly and it is a pretty serious allegation to be just throwing out there. One quite a few people could get sued for.

[Achilles]

The crew of the Millenium Falcon are settling down for the evening to watch Big Brother

C3PO: Sir, the chances of Ash surviving this eviction are approximately 3,720:1
Han Solo: Never tell me the odds!