Emotional Manipulation of Kimberly

[Jords]

Ive always thought that Steven wasnt that romantically interested in Kimberly. I thought their 'relationship' was for a bit of 'fun' / 'to pass time' in the house or maybe because shes really attractive and she'd look good on his arm even if there is no real connection. However it seems clearer to me that Steven now sees Kimberly as a possession of his. A few times now he has compared himself with her presenting himself in a better or stronger way. For instance tonight he said that he took the situation "really well" and she wouldnt have at all. Also I think he tries to use guilt to keep her close and controlled... tonight stating several times that she "bareface lied" to him. All with very little emotion but with controlled and stern tone.

I dont like this guy at all.

[kistar]

Then he said she was not to have anything whatsoever to do with Sasha from now on, she said she wanted to explain things to him and Steven said he would not allow it .

[Jords]

Then he said she was not to have anything whatsoever to do with Sasha from now on, she said she wanted to explain things to him and Steven said he would not allow it .

Absolutely. And he voiced it like Kimberly must obey or owe him.

[Roy Mars III]

He is very creepy, and obviously trying to control her. Scary to watch

[joeysteele]

Ive always thought that Steven wasnt that romantically interested in Kimberly. I thought their 'relationship' was for a bit of 'fun' / 'to pass time' in the house or maybe because shes really attractive and she'd look good on his arm even if there is no real connection. However it seems clearer to me that Steven now sees Kimberly as a possession of his. A few times now he has compared himself with her presenting himself in a better or stronger way. For instance tonight he said that he took the situation "really well" and she wouldnt have at all. Also I think he tries to use guilt to keep her close and controlled... tonight stating several times that she "bareface lied" to him. All with very little emotion but with controlled and stern tone.

I dont like this guy at all.

Really good post it was both strange and even a little intimidating from him tonight, if she has any sense at all she should run milesfrom him and have nothing to do with him at all.
He is one very odd cookie.

[jessicadanielle]

I absolutely agree, good observation! The way he was speaking to her at the end reminded me so much of a possessive and controlling boyfriend. He's taken what she's done and is using it against her on some weird guilt trip. I get the feeling that no matter how long they stayed together he'd repeatedly use it against her to control her

[kistar]

I absolutely agree, good observation! The way he was speaking to her at the end reminded me so much of a possessive and controlling boyfriend. He's taken what she's done and is using it against her on some weird guilt trip. I get the feeling that no matter how long they stayed together he'd repeatedly use it against her to control her

It's like he has the ammunition he needs to keep her in place forever.

He is such a weirdo.

[kistar]

Absolutely. And he voiced it like Kimberly must obey or owe him.

She needs to get away now Run Kimberley Run!

[jessicadanielle]

It's like he has the ammunition he needs to keep her in place forever.

He is such a weirdo.

Yeah exactly! He really is using the fact that Kimberly lied as ammunition against her. As the OP said, he barely even seemed emotional about it, just a controlling weirdo!

Sasha must be pretty offended that he's been dumped for Stephen of all people!! :hehe:

[kistar]

Yeah exactly! He really is using the fact that Kimberly lied as ammunition against her. As the OP said, he barely even seemed emotional about it, just a controlling weirdo!

Sasha must be pretty offended that he's been dumped for Stephen of all people!! :hehe:

I know ! A nose picking mummy's boy who will drive her mad after a week out of the house.

[JTM45]

Fuel the plane and have a very fast car waiting to take Kim to the Airport as soon as she's been evicted!!!! Run Kim...RUN!!!!!

What a controlling twat Steven is!
I hope this Sasha guy's some kind of 3rd Dan Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and Steven tries to push his weight around.:laugh:

[rionablue]

Ive always thought that Steven wasnt that romantically interested in Kimberly. I thought their 'relationship' was for a bit of 'fun' / 'to pass time' in the house or maybe because shes really attractive and she'd look good on his arm even if there is no real connection. However it seems clearer to me that Steven now sees Kimberly as a possession of his. A few times now he has compared himself with her presenting himself in a better or stronger way. For instance tonight he said that he took the situation "really well" and she wouldnt have at all. Also I think he tries to use guilt to keep her close and controlled... tonight stating several times that she "bareface lied" to him. All with very little emotion but with controlled and stern tone.

I dont like this guy at all.

I totally agree with you Jords. He kept making her feel worse and worse and was trying to say out of the goodness of his heart he forgave her but she wasn't to speak to Sasha when she got out which she said she wanted to do. I think he has her just where he wants her and I want him OUT OF there as he will try even more to manipulate her in the coming days. He is a bloody psycho

[Kizzy]

He creeps me out so much :/

[kelitokelito]

I am just watching it right now and it is awful. He is awful and even more , his mother is awful.
Walk away Kim, walk away.

[Kizzy]

don't walk.....run!

[Ammi]

Ive always thought that Steven wasnt that romantically interested in Kimberly. I thought their 'relationship' was for a bit of 'fun' / 'to pass time' in the house or maybe because shes really attractive and she'd look good on his arm even if there is no real connection. However it seems clearer to me that Steven now sees Kimberly as a possession of his. A few times now he has compared himself with her presenting himself in a better or stronger way. For instance tonight he said that he took the situation "really well" and she wouldnt have at all. Also I think he tries to use guilt to keep her close and controlled... tonight stating several times that she "bareface lied" to him. All with very little emotion but with controlled and stern tone.

I dont like this guy at all.

..yeah, he's really quite creepy and reminds me a bit of Daley with his 'control' but just executes it in a different/less aggressive way...even with the vid message from his mum, it became almost like...'you've been bad my child, but I forgive you..and now you're MINE..'....a sinister priest type thing...she is quite a 'submissive' person though, isn't she..?...

[Novo]

Actually feel a bit sorry for him, this is a guy who has been just taken for a ride and had to find out from a family member that Kim was basically lying about everything and she was actually in a serious relationship for 2 years rather then " Dating " like she told Steven, Steven really hasn't done anything wrong even when he was talking to her he seemed composed and didn't rip her to shreads about it considering she has made him look like a tit.. in fact he blamed himself when he was in the toilet saying something like " Steven you never fail to be a part " when he has done absoulety nothing wrong

[Ammi]

Actually feel a bit sorry for him, this is a guy who has been just taken for a ride and had to find out from a family member that Kim was basically lying about everything and she was actually in a serious relationship for 2 years rather then " Dating " like she told Steven, Steven really hasn't done anything wrong even when he was talking to her he seemed composed and didn't rip her to shreads about it considering she has made him look like a tit.. in fact he blamed himself when he was in the toilet saying something like " Steven you never fail to be a part " when he has done absoulety nothing wrong

..but that's the point in which he could have said...right, let's leave it for now and sort this out when we get out of the house because there are too many confusions etc...but he hasn't, he's still pushing and pushing for a 'relationship' in the house which makes me think that he's not genuine about any feelings he has at all and this actually played well for him because he has a little bit of the 'poor Steven been lead on' thing going on as well so it's win/win for him and lose/lose for Kim....

[Verbal]

He asked her is there a chance she will get back with him when she is out

She said yes

He asked her again

She said yes

Anything that happens from that point onwards is his own fault.

She didn't even tell him she is living with the man

[Ammi]

He asked her is there a chance she will get back with him when she is out

She said yes

He asked her again

She said yes

Anything that happens from that point onwards is his own fault.

She didn't even tell him she is living with the man

..yeah, I do personally think he's been determined to have this showmance from the beginning and even with the recent revelations from his mum, he's determined to pursue it and actually thinks that maybe it's now better because he's in a win/win situation ...I think what he didn't figure though was how much of a sleaze he's coming across as...

[Novo]

..but that's the point in which he could have said...right, let's leave it for now and sort this out when we get out of the house because there are too many confusions etc...but he hasn't, he's still pushing and pushing for a 'relationship' in the house which makes me think that he's not genuine about any feelings he has at all and this actually played well for him because he has a little bit of the 'poor Steven been lead on' thing going on as well so it's win/win for him and lose/lose for Kim....

To late for that now she has already let him get emotionally and sexually involved with her before it all came out and he had been led on that Is 100% a fact the whole thing about him using her is only an assumption either way at least he knows now that if she can do that to someone she has been on a relationship with for 2 years then she can easily do it to him in the future

[Ammi]

To late for that now she has already let him get emotionally and sexually involved with her before it all came out and he had been led on that Is 100% a fact the whole thing about him using her is only an assumption either way at least he knows now that if she can do that to someone she has been on a relationship with for 2 years then she can easily do it to him in the future


..I don't see it like that at all...she didn't 'let him' get emotionally or sexually involved, he's pushed and pushed to the point of this being some kind of 'fantasy' thing when she really hasn't up until the last few days seemed to give him any indications of her feelings for him...so nothing is 'fact' although. yes my feelings about Steven's sincerity are just personal instinct thing and could be wrong....but still, whether he is sincere or not, he's still now got the opportunity to put the breaks on a bit and leave it until they're out of the house, which with her 'ex' thing would be the most obvious thing to do but he's still pushing her ...I don't understand this 'on a break' thing anyway, I've only seen it with Ross and Rachel and there it seemed as though one thought it was over and the other one didn't...

[JTM45]

When Helen, Kim and Jale came back after watching the 'Gossipping' footage the first thing he said was "what were they saying about me ?".:laugh:

The guy's an absolutely self-obsessed slimey asshat!!!:yuk:

[Ammi]

When Helen, Kim and Jale came back after watching the 'Gossipping' footage the first thing he said was "what were they saying about me ?".:laugh:

The guy's an absolutely self-obsessed slimey asshat!!!:yuk:


..well, yes that's definitely another way of putting it..:laugh:...

[AnnieK]

He is the kind of guy who will slowly but surely undermine everything that Kim believes and feels. He will turn his faults into hers and she will see it his way. He is controlling, self obsessed and just plain strange.

[mooo]

She should run when she gets out

[rubymoo]

..yeah, he's really quite creepy and reminds me a bit of Daley with his 'control' but just executes it in a different/less aggressive way...even with the vid message from his mum, it became almost like...'you've been bad my child, but I forgive you..and now you're MINE..'....a sinister priest type thing...she is quite a 'submissive' person though, isn't she..?...

I think she's a lot more clued up than she came across, she smiled as he said it. I bet in her mind she was thinking 'you don't own me!' Her VT on BOTS showed her more talkative side.

It all adds up to me now, the eye rolls, the i don't like being touched by you face, the lack of emotion when cuddling/kissing, the eye rolls, Kimberly could run rings around him, the sad part is that his true self came out. He's shown himself to be insecure, controlling, dominating and the relentless wittering on and on (i'm surprised my t.v has survived when he's on!).

[Ammi]

She should run when she gets out

..he's going to chop her legs off Misery style first though..:whistle:...

[Novo]

..I don't see it like that at all...she didn't 'let him' get emotionally or sexually involved, he's pushed and pushed to the point of this being some kind of 'fantasy' thing when she really hasn't up until the last few days seemed to give him any indications of her feelings for him...so nothing is 'fact' although. yes my feelings about Steven's sincerity are just personal instinct thing and could be wrong....but still, whether he is sincere or not, he's still now got the opportunity to put the breaks on a bit and leave it until they're out of the house, which with her 'ex' thing would be the most obvious thing to do but he's still pushing her ...I don't understand this 'on a break' thing anyway, I've only seen it with Ross and Rachel and there it seemed as though one thought it was over and the other one didn't...

I don't get what you mean by pushed and pushed? It was him and her who agreed to take it further, its not like she couldn't have said no to him at anytime before any of the kissing, I just think that a lot of people are being to kind to Kim in this situation and Villianising Steven to much when he is the one that has been lied to for weeks, maybe if Kim wasn't so gormless and actually tried to make an effort the way he does then they'd get somewhere

[Novo]

Steven being compared to Daley, I've heard it all now

[Ammi]

I don't get what you mean by pushed and pushed? It was him and her who agreed to take it further, its not like she couldn't have said no to him at anytime before any of the kissing, I just think that a lot of people are being to kind to Kim in this situation and Villianising Steven to much when he is the one that has been lied to for weeks, maybe if Kim wasn't so gormless and actually tried to make an effort the way he does then they'd get somewhere

..but then maybe she didn't want to 'get somewhere' in the house but wanted to wait until they had left to see how it all was with her 'ex' as well, that's the impression I've got and if his feeling are genuine then they're not going to go anywhere but he seems to want this thing to happen in the house...and why wouldn't that all be confusing to her when she hasn't yet had the chance to resolve how things were when she went into the house..why can't he just agree to wait....

[Novo]

If she didn't want to get somewhere with him then she wouldn't have let him kiss her and the rest... She doesn't give a **** about her ex, anyone who would go on TV and do that with another guy clearly doesn't

[rubymoo]

Made me laugh as he assumed she'd be out first, and wanted her to wait for him, like he thinks he's more popular the she is LOL!

If she is out first she'll get back with her BF and they'll milk the attention they get, Steven can do the 'Kimberly love rat' headline, they'll all make some money and get on with their sad little lives:)

[Cherie]

I think she's a lot more clued up than she came across, she smiled as he said it. I bet in her mind she was thinking 'you don't own me!' Her VT on BOTS showed her more talkative side.

It all adds up to me now, the eye rolls, the i don't like being touched by you face, the lack of emotion when cuddling/kissing, the eye rolls, Kimberly could run rings around him, the sad part is that his true self came out. He's shown himself to be insecure, controlling, dominating and the relentless wittering on and on (i'm surprised my t.v has survived when he's on!).

and she was frowning at him in a way that suggested "are you actually trying to tell me what to do". Kim knows exactly what she is doing, she looks like a bit of a victim now, instead of a cheat, it's all looking good for the Kimbot

[rubymoo]

and she was frowning at him in a way that suggested "are you actually trying to tell me what to do". Kim knows exactly what she is doing, she looks like a bit of a victim now, instead of a cheat, it's all looking good for the Kimbot

Agreed! She's not stupid, she's a playboy bunny and they aren't to be messed with:laugh:

[Ammi]

If she didn't want to get somewhere with him then she wouldn't have let him kiss her and the rest... She doesn't give a **** about her ex, anyone who would go on TV and do that with another guy clearly doesn't

..maybe but that still doesn't equate to him being taken for a ride though because he's clarified the 'dating' bit and still seems to want this thing to very much happen immediately, rather than wait until they get out so he took himself on that ride ....

[Cherie]

Agreed! She's not stupid, she's a playboy bunny and they aren't to be messed with:laugh:

I had to laugh when Winston said she might be dating Heffner :laugh:

[rubymoo]

I had to laugh when Winston said she might be dating Heffner :laugh:

:joker:

[Metalface Mark]

It was completely embarrassing watching Steven talk to her last night, he's not emotionally developed enough to have that kind of relationship, relationship 101 is to let someone be themselves - telling her she cant speak to the ex till they are both out and they do it together is ridiculous.

Someone said its like Chanel and Ziggy yesterday and it is, its going to blow up on screen and its going to be horrible to watch like that was.

[chuff me dizzy]

Its a business deal ,dont forget this creep bragged of taking the family business from his family and how they now work for him,if he had told me where I could go ,not go ,told me to go to his family ,you wouldnt has seen my arse for dust

[Northern Monkey]

It's all for the money,i would'nt take any of it too seriously tbh.He's insecure and she's a player but they're only doing it to cash in.They'll be finished after a month on mag deals.

[Glenn.]

Couldn't agree more with the OP and severel posts since. I was talking to Jess last night about this observation I had made about him. He's so uncomfortable to watch and I hope Kimberley is smarter and sees it before too much damage is done. I've seen firsthand what emotional blackmail/abuse does to someone and it isn't pretty.